Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:VC => Vice City - City Hall => VC:MP - Vice City Multiplayer => VC:MP Courts => Topic started by: Davron on June 22, 2009, 10:12:17 pm
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Dear State Of Argonath,
Today 22nd June 2009 at 15 min passed 21 hours I was False accused for having Illegal Firearms fake documents.i stated to the Officers I have a business welling weapons.They said that only if you are selling Weapons at ammunition that is it legal.I stated i am too poor and is selling at a ware house.They just amused that i was not telling the truth so they Put me in cuffs.I complained that they where to tight and this just ignored and continue pull me like a doll.They also soled a Car from some civilian I was later soon at VCPD.I was then draged again by leonardo and carried into the building in to a room.He then asked me my name.I said I need a lawyer he just asked me a lot of questions I answered.He Sent Marco to break in to me house and Messed up everything without a warrant.Then he Lied and say that all my documents where Fakes and that the weapons are illegal firearms.Leonardo them pushed me onto the wall and searched me.He found some items even my licensed weapon and he also asked me is this is legal i stated yes.But he said they did not find a document of it but all was at my house. I was later shot be one of their officers a guy named John Stacci with a Officer Shotgun then i was later Punched by a other man i did not see him the hold time i was not fight or showed and danger to the officers.Leonardo then Read me my rights. and took me to jail.When we got to the cell.I asked the officer why i was wanted again and they stated it and added a new charged i had fake documents.Then i was jailed.They shared 1000 dollars and laugh saying Good work man.Now my sales are going down because everyone is thinking that i have Fake license weapons.
Evidence(Screen shots):(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8158/vcmp063.jpg)
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Busnies- http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=27077.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=27077.0)
My demands are.
Need Money from all officers
1000 for Jailing Me
2000 for false accusing me and me company
1000 for Harming me.
1000 for Raiding my place with no warrent
2000 for disturbing my sales
4000 calling my weapons illegal and paper work fake =losing my customers
1000 for stealing Civilian car so i can find him and pay him back the money
Total Money Demanded 12000
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1# -Dear State Of Argonath,
Today 22nd June 2009 at 15 min passed 21 hours I was False accused for having Illegal Firearms fake documents.i stated to the Officers I have a business welling weapons.They said that only if you are selling Weapons at ammunition that is it legal.I stated i am too poor and is selling at a ware house.They just amused that i was not telling the truth so they Put me in cuffs.
1st Point- We had Proofs that your documents were fake, also, Who would give you permission to Sell Flamethrowers and M60's in a place that no one even knew? By the way, how did you buy the guns if you were a Poor person? And who gave your the License to Sell them?
2nd - You just Updated a Weapon (MP5 that you said to me that was better than Govt. One, you said you updated it), you should request Permission to do it
2# - They just amused that i was not telling the truth so they Put me in cuffs.I complained that they where to tight and this just ignored and continue pull me like a doll.
You were cuffed because you were Under arrest, its a Normal Police procedure. Many criminals escaped because of the "Too tight" Tricks, so we couldn't afford it. Also, the tightness followed the Standard Procedures.
3# - They also soled a Car from some civilian I was later soon at VCPD.
1st Point - We Rented the Car
2nd Point - Even if we didn't rent the car, the civilian would cooperate with us, since he is a friend of one of our officers.
4# - I was then draged again by leonardo and carried into the building in to a room.He then asked me my name.I said I need a lawyer he just asked me a lot of questions I answered.He Sent Marco to break in to me house and Messed up everything without a warrant.Then he Lied and say that all my documents where Fakes and that the weapons are illegal firearms.Leonardo them pushed me onto the wall and searched me.He found some items even my licensed weapon and he also asked me is this is legal i stated yes.But he said they did not find a document of it but all was at my house. I was later shot be one of their officers a guy named John Stacci with a Officer Shotgun then i was later Punched by a other man i did not see him the hold time i was not fight or showed and danger to the officers.Leonardo then Read me my rights. and took me to jail.When we got to the cell.I asked the officer why i was wanted again and they stated it and added a new charged i had fake documents.Then i was jailed.They shared 1000 dollars and laugh saying Good work man.Now my sales are going down because everyone is thinking that i have Fake license weapons.ey said
1st - We had a Warrant to search, How we would know if you had A True License?
2nd - Wait for Leo's Response About John
3rd - Leo readed the Miranda rights before even asking any questions to you, He asked you if you wanted a lawyer, you didn't answer.
4th - A Deagle were found with you, loaded, so Cuffs
New Information
We have Proofs that you already sold Illegal Weapons before, What's your response about this?
FBI HQ, Response to Accusation, Waiting Leo's and John's answer, Along with the other officers.
Director Marco.
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1# -Dear State Of Argonath,
Today 22nd June 2009 at 15 min passed 21 hours I was False accused for having Illegal Firearms fake documents.i stated to the Officers I have a business welling weapons.They said that only if you are selling Weapons at ammunition that is it legal.I stated i am too poor and is selling at a ware house.They just amused that i was not telling the truth so they Put me in cuffs.
False accused? You were selling M60 and Flamethrowers,if you didnt know,these guns are not legal to you sell it around.
They just amused that i was not telling the truth so they Put me in cuffs.I complained that they where to tight and this just ignored and continue pull me like a doll.
Same thing as Marco said. And stop acting like to everyone feel sorry,i didnt taken you like a doll. i taken you like any normal Officer would do,not like i was dragging you around.
They also soled a Car from some civilian I was later soon at VCPD.
We just rented the car and Marco paid to the civilian to rent the car.
I was then draged again by leonardo and carried into the building in to a room.He then asked me my name.I said I need a lawyer he just asked me a lot of questions I answered.He Sent Marco to break in to me house and Messed up everything without a warrant.Then he Lied and say that all my documents where Fakes and that the weapons are illegal firearms.Leonardo them pushed me onto the wall and searched me.He found some items even my licensed weapon and he also asked me is this is legal i stated yes.But he said they did not find a document of it but all was at my house. I was later shot be one of their officers a guy named John Stacci with a Officer Shotgun then i was later Punched by a other man i did not see him the hold time i was not fight or showed and danger to the officers.Leonardo then Read me my rights. and took me to jail.When we got to the cell.I asked the officer why i was wanted again and they stated it and added a new charged i had fake documents.Then i was jailed.They shared 1000 dollars and laugh saying Good work man.Now my sales are going down because everyone is thinking that i have Fake license weapons.ey said
I have taken you to the Interrogate Room to you answer to me some questions,i dont dragged you like a doll to the room. I have read to you the Miranda Rights and i asked to you about the Lawyer and you didnt cooperated. And we HAD a warrant to search,so dont come lying. And it wasnt a ''licensed weapon'' what i didnt found with you,i found a Driving License and a Desert Eagle,i asked you then if you had a Gun License,you said ''its on my house'' so the FBI Team,with a warrant drove there to search then it found 2 fake licenses. And i will say again to you..M60's and Flamethrowers are not legal to you sell around.
Captain Leonardo,VCPD HQ.
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M60's and Flamethrowers are not legal to you sell around.
David was running a legalized business selling weapons. He uses a docks to store his weapons there.
He runs his business off a website. Don't take that everybody selling weapons outside ammu-nation
is an illegal arms dealer :neutral:
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David was running a legalized business selling weapons. He uses a docks to store his weapons there.
He runs his business off a website. Don't take that everybody selling weapons outside ammu-nation
is an illegal arms dealer :neutral:
New Information
We have Proofs that you already sold Illegal Weapons before, What's your response about this?
Also,he had fake licenses. Oh,and you know Davron already sold before that Illegal Weapons. Dont believe me? i got proofs.
EDIT : Also,Witnesses.
Captain Leonardo,VCPD HQ.
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Well, He should have at least the Weapon Selling license with him, not at home, While selling weapons I think?
FBI HQ
Director Marco
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/me enters the VCPD HQ and heads straight into the commanders office.
/me sits on his desk and starts to write a document.
--- OFFICIAL RESPONSE FROM THE COMMAND OF THE VICE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT ---
Mr. David Montana,
Accourding to the law of Argonath ((server rule/procedure)), any trading of any firearm outside officially licensed weapon stores ((Ammu-Nations)) will be taken as an offense to the constitution and the commiter(s) are subjected to be arrested under 'illegal sale of a firearm' charges. About the car you claim to be stolen, members of any law enforcement agencies are allowed to take control of unused vehicles, should they be state issued or private, if the reason is such as response to a crime, pursuit of a criminal, transport of a criminal, amongst others. Once a suspect is taken to investigation, they have the right of an attorney to represent them in the interrogation. The suspect has the obligation to answer to any questions asked by the police officers. About warrants, any member of the ARPD command (Police leaders and their assistants, including F.B.I.) is allowed to issue warrants with orders such as property searching. They can issue themselves search warrants. As mentioned in the start of this document, trading of firearms outside licensed stores is illegal, and as in your case you were trading firearms out of those stores, you could have no license to deal them, thus, any documentation you claimed to have was fake.
If you were shot after arrested, officer Stracci will be punished for misusage of state issued armoury. Suspects under arrest process are not to be injured, with no exceptions. Also it is clearly shown in your evidences that you contradict yourself saying Captain Leonardo reads the Miranda rights after the questioning, whilst in the evidences it is shown that he did it before the questioning.
Demands from the Vice City Police Department
Cancellation of all the demands from the prosecutors party.
$2.000 for false accusations towards the AR-VCPD/AR-VCBI.
Signed,
JayL
Deputy Chief JayL
Vice City Police Department Headquarters
--- END OF THE DOCUMENT ---
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If you were shot after arrested, officer Stracci will be punished for misusage of state issued armoury. Suspects under arrest process are not to be injured, with no exceptions.
I cannot deny this. Officer Stracci really shoot on David,also on me too. I almost got heavy damaged by the Shotgun Bullets,lucky i was wearing a armour.
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Also,he had fake licenses. Oh,and you know Davron already sold before that Illegal Weapons. Dont believe me? i got proofs.
Yes, I know, as it was me who arrested him..
However, people can change. He was not currently with a client, so he does not have his gun license on him.
His home is a safe place for such item. Sorry, he did know that an armed force would arrest him for illegally selling guns. He thought that the police force would have such information about his business
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Yes, I know, as it was me who arrested him..
However, people can change. He was not currently with a client, so he does not have his gun license on him.
His home is a safe place for such item. Sorry, he did know that an armed force would arrest him for illegally selling guns. He thought that the police force would have such information about his business
Response:
I Received a Weapons dealer Announce, so I got undercover and called him. He said he was selling guns, so we arrived at the Meeting Point. I Asked if he Had a License, he said it wasn't with him, WHEN he should carry, since he was dealing with a Costumer.
FBI HQ
Director Marco
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Yea, I had this problem as well. He offered to sell me some weapons while I was a cop. Bad move...
I checked your documents etc.
Well, it's not really the idea to sell weapons freely, especially like that to the police. You should take it maybe more RP wise and evade the police officers. It gives us an odd dilema, because you claim to have a license and yet it is not really legal anyway.
By the way, the list of fines that need to be payed to you as compensation, may I ask why you are demanding money?
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Off topic :Wow
Response:
I Received a Weapons dealer Announce, so I got undercover and called him. He said he was selling guns, so we arrived at the Meeting Point. I Asked if he Had a License, he said it wasn't with him, WHEN he should carry, since he was dealing with a Costumer.
FBI HQ
Director Marco
Marco on the phone i stated that i sold license Weapons.And you never confronted me asking if i had my license When i asked you about your information you continued and say do not worry about that i would for the Italian Mob.I stated to you ok and i wrote down the information saying Jay leonardo you said ok.
Also,he had fake licenses. Oh,and you know Davron already sold before that Illegal Weapons. Dont believe me? i got proofs.
EDIT : Also,Witnesses.
Captain Leonardo,VCPD HQ.
I have understood the last time that My Weapons dealing was illegal.I was stated By Dexter the only way to get your guns legal is to Have a business about Weapons dealing.Since i can't afford a Amunation.i have to stick to the fact that i am selling my weapons at the warehouse.((You can only get you weapons at the warehouse,if you crash or get killed while you have your weapons you will loose them,meaning it is the safest way to keep them there.For any deals.))So My business is now selling weapons ,Bodygaurd.
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I cannot deny this. Officer Stracci really shoot on David,also on me too. I almost got heavy damaged by the Shotgun Bullets,lucky i was wearing a armour.
About this, i was swearing to God that i didnt shot anyone. In my screen i didn't shot with the shotgun neither pistol... But if u don't believe in it and if Leo and Davron say that i shot, then i shot, the only thing to do is apologize... D;
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I was stated By Dexter the only way to get your guns legal is to Have a business about Weapons dealing.Since i can't afford a Amunation.i have to stick to the fact that i am selling my weapons at the warehouse.((You can only get you weapons at the warehouse,if you crash or get killed while you have your weapons you will loose them,meaning it is the safest way to keep them there.For any deals.))So My business is now selling weapons ,Bodygaurd.
Response:
Accourding to the law of Argonath ((server rule/procedure)), any trading of any firearm outside officially licensed weapon stores ((Ammu-Nations)) will be taken as an offense to the constitution and the commiter(s) are subjected to be arrested under 'illegal sale of a firearm' charges.
Also, Who gave you the License to sell them at warehouse?
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Also, Who gave you the License to sell them at warehouse?
Me
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The Stracci Family owns the chain of Ammunations, namely the Ocean Beach Ammunation and the Vice Point Ammunation (North Point Mall).
The Stracci Family takes responsibility of distribution of Weapon Dealing Licenses to its employers.
I, Willy_Stracci the owner of Ocean Beach Ammunation and Chairman of Stracci Ammunations myself approved David_Montana of legal sales of firearms in the premises of State of Vice City. Therefore i stand by Mr. David Montana and inform the court that all documents i.e:
David Montana's Employee certificate
David Montana's Weapon Dealing License
and David Montana's Authority to deal Weapons any where in premises of Vice City,
is Approved by Stracci Ammunation Inc. (Under Government act of Legal firearms).
I can present those documents anytime in court if required.
Regarding the treatment of my Employee by the ARPD. What i have to say is:
I received no information from the ARPD about my employee being found guilty
I received no notification from ARPD to show their willingness to look deeper into the matter, rather than contacting me, they mishandled my employee
My employee was not given a chance to be bailed out of prison to contact me about the case, he was allegedly shot and was in emergency.
So i hope my reasons of a late action are justified with the above comments.
Also, I have [WS]Marco's investment of 8.5% share in Ammunation, so i will personally grant 8.5% relief of the penalty charged by the court :redface:
I understand that my Employee should have carried his License when dealing weapons outside the Ammunation.
Thereby, i am not charging ARPD with anything personally, but i feel that ARPD's counter charges against my employee are baseless and have the motive to delay the case further
-Willy Stracci
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I received no information from the ARPD about my employee being found guilty
I received no notification from ARPD to show their willingness to look deeper into the matter, rather than contacting me, they mishandled my employee
My employee was not given a chance to be bailed out of prison to contact me about the case, he was allegedly shot and was in emergency.
So i hope my reasons of a late action are justified with the above comments.
First of all,ARPD didnt had knowledge he was your employee,and if he was your employee,he had to tell this to us. Was going to help so much,its not our fault.
Also, I have [WS]Marco's investment of 8.5% share in Ammunation, so i will personally grant 8.5% relief of the penalty charged by the court.
Little Request about this:
- Marco's answer to verify this.
I understand that my Employee should have carried his License when dealing weapons outside the Ammunation
Accourding to the law of Argonath ((server rule/procedure)), any trading of any firearm outside officially licensed weapon stores ((Ammu-Nations)) will be taken as an offense to the constitution and the commiter(s) are subjected to be arrested under 'illegal sale of a firearm' charges.
Captain Leonardo
VCPD HQ
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Off-topic: Could you write with bigger letters? :D
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Can't read them? Quote (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?action=help;page=post#quote) the text. Kthx.
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Is this case till active?
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Since there are no Judges.I think we have to wait some one high up like Grandalf or Aragon or Sauron.
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Since there are no Judges.I think we have to wait some one high up like Grandalf or Aragon or Sauron.
I think Klaus or Dexter can do the honors
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Willy, did you just come up with that to defend davron's case? Actually, he has his own company called Doejae Inc. which even has it's own page in VC:MP Selling (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=27077.0). Also, when he offered me some weapons, he never mentioned anything about Amunation. He only told me off his private company.
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I think Klaus or Dexter can do the honors
Dexter can be the Judge. He has more neutral ground in this case than me
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FROM THE DESK OF JUDGE DEXTER:
-Case Closed-
Prosecutor of this case had registered business of guns. However he did not carry licenses with him. If he was not going to make any business without license, he should at least have license of that Deagle what he carried with him. I give warning to prosecutor that he should from now on carry licenses with him. As Mr. Willy Stracci have proved, David Montana is working from him. That still doesn't mean that Mr. David can sell his guns everywhere around city and without license.
Defendant of this case. Only thing i want to remind you on this case that you should be carefull how to threath criminals while cuffing them. But as there is no proves of violence acting, demans are not accepted.
All demands are denied
Signed
Judge Dexter
Judge Dexter
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Quite a good conclusion.
Judge Dexter :D
I guess we can hold this case now?