Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Y2JFaN on July 12, 2009, 11:52:46 pm
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NOTE: this is not a complaint, so please do not lock or request or whatever, im just discussing this.
So basically, lately it is so hard to have like SERIOUS RP. Since I came back, I've noticed half the time the server is cops chasing suspects or something, and it's very hard anymore to RP because there is always cops chasing suspects around and all, yes, you may say, 'Well thats RP!' Well I'm not talking about 'ohai u want weed or heroin?' RP I'm talking about like 10-50 minute RP, excluding fights or something of any kind, I remember when I first joined here it was ALWAYS RP and was so fun, Like Every other day there was Zombie RP or something and was just so fun and enjoyable, lately, it's hard to get more than 5 people to RP anymore... I find it somewhat saddening that you have to ask people to RP or ask for RP in an RP server (No offence meant, but I'm just saying) especially when a lot just sit around and do nothing but talk in chat and argue, instead of enjoying some RP scenes or something. I still find Argo very fun, but it was a lot better before when RP just started out of nowhere.
I've already given my opinion, now I want to hear yours.
SO what I am asking, Do YOU think that we need more serious RP around? Or do you think it's fine as it is now?
Discuss!
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There are some good roleplays from time to time. I recall the NARC getting a search warrant on Violet's house, busting Dean Corleone along with ~200 grams with him. Great roleplay, lasted over an hour and we never got to shoot anybody.
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Kill yourself is the best solution
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I totally agree, Argonath RPG misses alot of RP. Most freecops: surrender! /gu now! or just like..shotugn outta ass and kill you.
And newbies ramm you, grabb a smg and kill you or carjack you. Too lack of RP.
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Oh an addition: we need MORE roleplay, not serious one but MORE.
Kill yourself is the best solution
You haven't been for half a year, therefore you can't really say anything. Also, that's harsh.
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Oh an addition: we need MORE roleplay, not serious one but MORE.
You haven't been for half a year, therefore you can't really say anything. Also, that's harsh.
Elmartu, check my registration on forums, and then talk , ok?
""you havent been for half a year""
LoL
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I mean that you were inactive for half a year. :)
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I mean that you were inactive for half a year. :)
That means i dont know the RP happened long ago? ok
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hi people i have been in the samp server for like 1hour or something and idd for the first time i understand what all the forum talk was about.
when you want real RP just get a group of people together and RP where no one is so you can RP on your own without freecoppers etc.
goodluck with the RP and visit us in MTA:SA some time
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what makes Argonath so popular, and different from the rest of the servers is, that its a good envorment for RP'ers and regular joes like me, who like to just play the game realisticly.
some people RP 100%, some 60% etc
most servers you are too RP 100%, or 0%
Argonath welcomes all, and accepts all :D
but yes, the RP part is somewhat failing, and regular players seem to be taking over
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I been in 6-7 roleplays lasting 2-3 hours plus within the last two or three weeks, did one today infact. Use your brain and imagination if you wish to create longer roleplays, all I can say. If you are being rulebreaked, report them using the command, and try and teach new players instead of killing them or flaming them and the rest of the server. If you aren't willing to do that, then you shouldn't deserve to moan about anything.
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I totally agree, Argonath RPG misses alot of RP. Most freecops: surrender! /gu now! or just like..shotugn outta ass and kill you.
And newbies ramm you, grabb a smg and kill you or carjack you. Too lack of RP.
u just said Surrender! do /gu??? nononono they come in shoot u u die and they just walk away like nothing happened...
no roleplay what so ever and in a mafia no roleplay really also( i mean with anyone)all it is is evading evading evading freecops need to be taught or sumthing so
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You're right Y2JFaN, it is hard to have serious RP. The thing most people do is talking in main chat about real life stuff. I don't think I've had very good RP at all lately, except when I went to GS9 today with the hobos buying some shampkoo and smoked some weed with the hobos and stuff, that was very fun, I gotta say.
Every time I'm alone or with a friend and we try to RP a robbery, for example, then all people do is either one of these:
- Running away as fast as possible just to save the small ammount of cash they might have to give the robber.
- Pull out a gun from their ass and start to shoot, without any RP at all.
- Give 1 dollar and say 'that's all I got.'
- Say they have no money on them.
- Call someone by /Cb or /Pm to back them up, which is very non-RP, how the hell could you call someone to back you up while you're getting robbed?
- OR JUST A SMALL AMMOUNT OF PEOPLE act scared, like you probably would in real-life.
This is just what I have experienced.
I dayly get PM's(Which is supposed to be OOC) by members of groups like Gvardia and Cems saying ''Wanna buy some guns??'', ''Wanna buy some weed??''.. Why don't you try to find me IC instead and ask me there..?
And it has got all about the money now, everyone just Roleplay buying scripted stuff most of the time, like heroin and weed. When I tried to sell RP drugs like cocaine and Ecstacy, then noone buys it, not even if they don't have to pay, just for the sake of the roleplay. And people keep saying 'PM Me' in advertisments and do non-RP ad's without admins doing anything about it.
SO what I am asking, Do YOU think that we need more serious RP around? Or do you think it's fine as it is now?
I do think there should be more roleplay, and some rules that could add more roleplay. For example, removing dual weapons, no bunnyhopping in roleplay, no meta/power-gaming, etc.. But I still find Argonath very fun when I have decent roleplayers to roleplay with.
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You're right Y2JFaN, it is hard to have serious RP. The thing most people do is talking in main chat about real life stuff. I don't think I've had very good RP at all lately, except when I went to GS9 today with the hobos buying some shampkoo and smoked some weed with the hobos and stuff, that was very fun, I gotta say.
Every time I'm alone or with a friend and we try to RP a robbery, for example, then all people do is either one of these:
- Running away as fast as possible just to save the small ammount of cash they might have to give the robber.
- Pull out a gun from their ass and start to shoot, without any RP at all.
- Give 1 dollar and say 'that's all I got.'
- Say they have no money on them.
- Call someone by /Cb or /Pm to back them up, which is very non-RP, how the hell could you call someone to back you up while you're getting robbed?
- OR JUST A SMALL AMMOUNT OF PEOPLE act scared, like you probably would in real-life.
This is just what I have experienced.
I dayly get PM's(Which is supposed to be OOC) by members of groups like Gvardia and Cems saying ''Wanna buy some guns??'', ''Wanna buy some weed??''.. Why don't you try to find me IC instead and ask me there..?
And it has got all about the money now, everyone just Roleplay buying scripted stuff most of the time, like heroin and weed. When I tried to sell RP drugs like cocaine and Ecstacy, then noone buys it, not even if they don't have to pay, just for the sake of the roleplay. And people keep saying 'PM Me' in advertisments and do non-RP ad's without admins doing anything about it.
I do think there should be more roleplay, and some rules that could add more roleplay. For example, removing dual weapons, no bunnyhopping in roleplay, no meta/power-gaming, etc.. But I still find Argonath very fun when I have decent roleplayers to roleplay with.
This is true,BTW tell me who was it from cems i will talk with him.
I tried to rob people with Joey DeRossi today, 5 of 10 or so were willing to RP , 1 with alot of sarcasm but did RP. Some whit shitty RP but still RP. 2 cops who refused 1 was sickness who just drove away, few guys who just ran away.
Argonath has great scripts Etc, but we are missing 1 important thing, RP. I think RP is alot more important then scripts. Many people play here for scripts not for RP. We should make rules against powergaming/metagaming, Bunnyhopping and all othere non RP bullshit.
To be honest i was considering quiting argonath today after i saw that none RP's
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You cant force someone to RP
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What is "an RP"?
We never used to have "an RP". RP situations and stuff were never present in RS2, we just had "situations".
People throw around those two letters way too much, just play and have fun.
Also, if you try to rob me, I will shoot you dead with my combat shotgun (if I have it on me, else I'll call for backup on CB and run using SAMP lag to survive). I do not have type /me to pull out my gun, why should I? You can see me draw the bloody thing, and then shoot you in the face. Expect it, and account for that by shifting around.
I do not like RPing. I like roleplaying.
For some reason, you seem to have made them different things, which is odd because one is an abbreviation of the other. Roleplaying for me, can be done with very little /me commands. The only RPing I do these days is selling Food and Drink. As for roleplaying, I am a Yakuza leader. I am roleplaying that. I don't have to be online in the server to be playing that role. You can roleplay without even being online, I am the leader of the Araatus Yakuza. That is my role. I am playing it.
You don't need any commands to roleplay. Not even local chat.
You need local chat, /me, etc. to act as your role ingame.
Don't confuse roleplaying with acting as your role ingame, they aren't the same.
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REMOVE /P IT RUINS RP SO GOD DAMN MUCH
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^ Agreed, people wouldn't have much else to do on the server than RP if there wouldn't be any /p chat.
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What is "an RP"?
We never used to have "an RP". RP situations and stuff were never present in RS2, we just had "situations".
People throw around those two letters way too much, just play and have fun.
Also, if you try to rob me, I will shoot you dead with my combat shotgun (if I have it on me, else I'll call for backup on CB and run using SAMP lag to survive). I do not have type /me to pull out my gun, why should I? You can see me draw the bloody thing, and then shoot you in the face. Expect it, and account for that by shifting around.
I do not like RPing. I like roleplaying.
For some reason, you seem to have made them different things, which is odd because one is an abbreviation of the other. Roleplaying for me, can be done with very little /me commands. The only RPing I do these days is selling Food and Drink. As for roleplaying, I am a Yakuza leader. I am roleplaying that. I don't have to be online in the server to be playing that role. You can roleplay without even being online, I am the leader of the Araatus Yakuza. That is my role. I am playing it.
You don't need any commands to roleplay. Not even local chat.
You need local chat, /me, etc. to act as your role ingame.
Don't confuse roleplaying with acting as your role ingame, they aren't the same.
True
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What is "an RP"?
We never used to have "an RP". RP situations and stuff were never present in RS2, we just had "situations".
People throw around those two letters way too much, just play and have fun.
Also, if you try to rob me, I will shoot you dead with my combat shotgun (if I have it on me, else I'll call for backup on CB and run using SAMP lag to survive). I do not have type /me to pull out my gun, why should I? You can see me draw the bloody thing, and then shoot you in the face. Expect it, and account for that by shifting around.
I do not like RPing. I like roleplaying.
For some reason, you seem to have made them different things, which is odd because one is an abbreviation of the other. Roleplaying for me, can be done with very little /me commands. The only RPing I do these days is selling Food and Drink. As for roleplaying, I am a Yakuza leader. I am roleplaying that. I don't have to be online in the server to be playing that role. You can roleplay without even being online, I am the leader of the Araatus Yakuza. That is my role. I am playing it.
You don't need any commands to roleplay. Not even local chat.
You need local chat, /me, etc. to act as your role ingame.
Don't confuse roleplaying with acting as your role ingame, they aren't the same.
Take combatshotgun out of your ass and shoot, very nice now i know person who i wont RP with :)
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REMOVE /P IT RUINS RP SO GOD DAMN MUCH
Atleast a limit, for example:
Philip_Luvineri(14) Lol, Lidl is kinda good
Don't spam the chat, wait 5 sec.
Philip_Luvineri(14): Wow! that chat Limit is good!
I can agree the Roleplay is VERY poor at the moment. Bunny hops, jump out of cars not getting a scratch, pull out shotguns out of your ass etc. etc. ...
- Philip.
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I dayly get PM's(Which is supposed to be OOC) by members of groups like Gvardia and Cems saying ''Wanna buy some guns??'', ''Wanna buy some weed??''.. Why don't you try to find me IC instead and ask me there..?
Never.AND NEXT TIME DONT SAY THE NAME OF THE GROUP.
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Somebody who clearly can't roleplay, since he desperately needs /me commands to hold his hand across the road.
Very nice, now I know person who I won't roleplay with :).
Oh, by the way, public chat is one of the best things about Argonath.
Servers without it are heartless servers full of dickheads who use IC/OOC nonsense to insult you.
Also, how the flying fuck does public chat ruin roleplay?
Philip_Luvineri(14) Lol, Lidl is kinda good
Don't spam the chat, wait 5 sec.
Philip_Luvineri(14): Wow! that chat Limit is good!
Public chat limiters are more retarded than communist regimes. And you know how fucking retarded those are.
I can agree the Roleplay is VERY poor at the moment. Bunny hops, jump out of cars not getting a scratch, pull out shotguns out of your ass etc. etc. ...
I know, lets ajail people for 20 minutes for bunnyhopping. That sounds reasonable. Its not like totally retarded or anything, totally abusing new players up their ass and pissing off regulars.
Dude, if I wanna run somewhere fast, I'm not gonna bloody roleplay it, why the hell would I do that. Its like roleplaying with yourself, its totally idiotic.
If I smash into you with my car, I'm also not gonna roleplay it. I'm clearly going somewhere, don't waste my time with carcrash RP or something. Its GTA, you can dive out of your car without losing health. We play GTA, go by GTA standards. If you can jump off City Hall and survive, heck you can do it IRL for all I care.
Pull shotguns out of my ass? I have a shotgun on me. I don't have to show it whatsoever. I can just pull it out of my shirt or something. Yea, a combat shotgun. Who cares about realism - its a game..
I mean, really.. -_-
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In real life you dont say to someone else . Hey Im getting a weapon out of my pocket ok? be ready... You just pop it from ur pocket and shoot
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Jserg how can you take a combat from your pocket ???Magic ?
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Panda, I agree with your opinion, although sometimes I do say /me pulls out gun, but when I do, i just do it, and shoot, i dont waste 10 minutes letting them run (Unless it's like just RP fun or something) 1 thing though...
Your missing the point. This topic is about the Role Play itself of the server, not how you RP, just RPing in general, re-read my post, I'm not talking about /me or anything, it's about how much RP there is anymore that is not just 'ohai, uhm... give me your money, or die. LOL.' or 'want drugs? no? If not then go away idiot' or something. That is NOT really RP (well in some cases, robbery IS RP if it is not just aim and shoot robbery, otherwise, I see that as DM in my eyes) imo, but whatever.
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I agree that the roleplaying level of this community has been lowered ever since the day I joined Argonath. I understand that there are no strict regulations enforcing realistic roleplay, but atleast try to be as realistic as you can.
:ps: Screenshots taken ingame to prove that a person was speeding isn't really "realistic"; it's ridiculous non-sense, in my opinion.
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You cant force someone to RP
You can't Force anybody but you can make it easier for everybody.
The magic words :idea:
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You're right Y2JFaN, it is hard to have serious RP. The thing most people do is talking in main chat about real life stuff. I don't think I've had very good RP at all lately, except when I went to GS9 today with the hobos buying some shampkoo and smoked some weed with the hobos and stuff, that was very fun, I gotta say.
Every time I'm alone or with a friend and we try to RP a robbery, for example, then all people do is either one of these:
- Running away as fast as possible just to save the small ammount of cash they might have to give the robber.
- Pull out a gun from their ass and start to shoot, without any RP at all.
- Give 1 dollar and say 'that's all I got.'
- Say they have no money on them.
- Call someone by /Cb or /Pm to back them up, which is very non-RP, how the hell could you call someone to back you up while you're getting robbed?
- OR JUST A SMALL AMMOUNT OF PEOPLE act scared, like you probably would in real-life.
This is just what I have experienced.
I dayly get PM's(Which is supposed to be OOC) by members of groups like Gvardia and Cems saying ''Wanna buy some guns??'', ''Wanna buy some weed??''.. Why don't you try to find me IC instead and ask me there..?
And it has got all about the money now, everyone just Roleplay buying scripted stuff most of the time, like heroin and weed. When I tried to sell RP drugs like cocaine and Ecstacy, then noone buys it, not even if they don't have to pay, just for the sake of the roleplay. And people keep saying 'PM Me' in advertisments and do non-RP ad's without admins doing anything about it.
I do think there should be more roleplay, and some rules that could add more roleplay. For example, removing dual weapons, no bunnyhopping in roleplay, no meta/power-gaming, etc.. But I still find Argonath very fun when I have decent roleplayers to roleplay with.
I agree with everything you've said here, totally.
/p: I'm not playing Argonath to socialize, no offence. That's why I love servers where /p is only for questions or misconceptions about the server/game. It's been obvious to me mainly cops, especially officers, keep talking bout IRL stuff. They just sit in their car, talking about IRL stuff in /p or /cb, being totally oblivious to their surroundings and when they see an orange blip on their radar they turn their sirenes on and go for it. I'm sure, sometimes they just press TAB and use /area ID. Then later they call each other good RPers in /p about their bust while in fact they're the worst RPers in Argonath for ignoring their surroundings when there's no suspect arround. One other note is that I've been a cop a few times and it's really rare a cop gives the location of a suspect through the radio. That just shows how much they would have to use /area ID in order to catch criminals. This is why I'm never applying for ARPD, you guys suck at RP :razz:.
PM: I don't respond to other players pming me about RP related stuff and I advice everybody to do the same. You'd only encourage them to do it more often. I tell them PM's are not for RP usage or I ignore them. Anyway, I'd never do any businuess deals with them, unless they change their way. It's not much trouble using /getphone ID > /sms -or /call [phonenumber] text to get a hold of somebody.
Robberies: I've experienced that too. When I get robbed properly, I go along with it. No matter how much cash I got on me. I give it all to them. Unless it's some shit that doesn't RP one bit when the roles are reversed, I don't hesitate to return the favour. :war:
Metagaming: I understand it's hard to enforce a rule on this because of almost any new player metagaming, but a lot of regulars do this too.
/cb abuse: Every single gang/mob in Argonath abuses /cb when they're being kidnapped or robbed. That's a fact.
/l: /l text is IC, /l (( text )) is OOC. Learn the difference!
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To be honest i was considering quiting argonath today after i saw that none RP's
Seskom you hypocrit, have you seen yourself roleplay?
Oh right, that's why you are considering of quitting. My bad.
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. . . lasted over an hour and we never got to shoot anybody.
You're saying that it's a bad thing? Lol thats what it sounded like, but yeah, big RP's happen fairly often, of course, it takes more then just one person to start one, the community as a whole should be working in unison to create the best roleplay situations.
And Oliver, be nice lol. :poke:
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Every time I'm alone or with a friend and we try to RP a robbery, for example, then all people do is either one of these:
- Running away as fast as possible just to save the small ammount of cash they might have to give the robber.
- Pull out a gun from their ass and start to shoot, without any RP at all.
- Give 1 dollar and say 'that's all I got.'
- Say they have no money on them.
- Call someone by /Cb or /Pm to back them up, which is very non-RP, how the hell could you call someone to back you up while you're getting robbed?
- OR JUST A SMALL AMMOUNT OF PEOPLE act scared, like you probably would in real-life.
Why do I always get robbed standing in front of LSPD, with 5 cops next to me?
Anyway, I like Argonath how it is. I don't like strict RP.
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I think we already clearly stated about moaning...
Argo not as RP as before?
I agree... It has now more moaners then players...
I will not even suggest to change server... Change the game, guys... Go play poker, or shoot brains out of enemies in WW2, or cut head to all zombies... When you will be tired with all of that - welcome back...
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