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Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Tice on May 19, 2007, 02:58:19 am
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Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 19, 2007, 03:48:40 am
Granted
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Jcstodds on May 19, 2007, 10:17:40 am
I hope we can have this done as fast as possible and get some things cleared up, of course anyone can sign up
 
but ML cant
:lol: lol xD

Gang/Group name: Las Venturas Armed Limo Service
 Leader/ Co-Leader: [ALS]jcstodds, [ALS]wdoyle2
Representative (If leaders are not available): [ALS]dan_lcfc


*500th post  :hoor: :alc:  :lol:

  Also, I will need definate times on the forum as I cant go ingame much nowadays (exams)- however I can make time to attend the meetings. Also, a note to the other gangs etc- you may not have saw us, or if you are new never even heard of us, but we will be back in June to take back the streets, and our presence will remain in Las Venturas.
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 19, 2007, 07:44:11 pm
Granted
Posted on: May 19, 2007, 08:58:20 AM
The Commission groups got together to have a meeting, soon after talks we decided to attack ML

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Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Decy on May 20, 2007, 02:08:09 am
ML should be able to sign up to this should they not, try and sort the little quarrel out and dont leave it hanging man
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 20, 2007, 04:32:34 am
  What? ML wouldn't sign anyway
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Jcstodds on May 20, 2007, 10:39:39 am
  Wasnt it ML that started the big fight at the commision or something?
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Tice on May 20, 2007, 02:52:12 pm
  Wasnt it ML that started the big fight at the commision or something?

Yeah. 3 [ML]s came with silenced pistols and spaz12s and took out a load of guys - [ML]Morgie was one of them. This was pretty much the final straw.
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Jcstodds on May 20, 2007, 03:18:17 pm
to be fair [ML]morgie took out el_bobby a few times xD
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 20, 2007, 05:40:44 pm
 I think Morgie was in another gang before ML and was working with CM then had the idea to go to ML soon after that he quit them and now is a loner
Posted on: May 20, 2007, 11:39:08 AM
  Next Commission Meeting Date: 05/22/07
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: dan_lcfc on May 20, 2007, 05:43:24 pm
Im guesing that is Tuesday?
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: CM Daniel on May 20, 2007, 06:30:57 pm
Im guesing that is Tuesday?

Yes. However, I am not sure if I can be there, because I've got allot of private bussines to attend to.
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: dan_lcfc on May 20, 2007, 06:56:07 pm
OK, what time will it be??
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 20, 2007, 07:50:25 pm
Location of Meetings:

  Nikolai and Mihail's Voodoo Lounge Vodka Bar is the place I have set up, I contacted the owners and we agreed on a price I pay to rent it out for us on meeting days
Located south of the LSPD and west of unity station

Time of meetings:

 
 I live in US Eastern Time, IDK if some of you can make it or not but try to arrive.

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/eastern-time/

 I want meetings to be at 16:30 or 4:30 pm at my time, I can change this if enough people ask
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Jcstodds on May 20, 2007, 07:53:54 pm
sorry, about 10:30 pm for UK i think
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 20, 2007, 08:00:53 pm
 I moved it back a hour, I can't go any futher then that atm because I get out of school around that time the summer awaits and better times with happen, I get out in 6 days of school.

 I added BwS, Saints Of Satan--S as tag , Asf, to Commission welcome them


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Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Tice on May 21, 2007, 06:35:21 pm
Yes. However, I am not sure if I can be there, because I've got allot of private bussines to attend to.

I'll go.
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: [Asf]Muffin on May 22, 2007, 03:44:07 pm
Hey, today is this commission right? Just wanna join in commison officially then^^:

Gang/Group name: Asf  (Aztecas family)
Leader/ Co-Leader: [Asf]Muffin / [Asf]tjum
Representative: - dunno what that means xD

So we meet this evening... im interested what we gonna talk about :P
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Jcstodds on May 22, 2007, 04:49:11 pm
Wooo I have exam leave, I should make it- dan come along if ur on.
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: dan_lcfc on May 22, 2007, 04:53:35 pm
Is it tonite?(i think that is spelt wrong, god help me with my english exam  :rofl:) If it is I'm fishing in the morining so I am getting up at half 6 so early night for me  :conf:
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Tice on May 22, 2007, 05:58:52 pm
Is it tonite?(i think that is spelt wrong, god help me with my english exam  :rofl:) If it is I'm fishing in the morining so I am getting up at half 6 so early night for me  :conf:

Tonight :)

I think the commission is about 9:30 tonight - British time...
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 22, 2007, 06:01:44 pm
 yes sorry for such late time for you guys, i have 4 more school days left so I can bring it down a couple of hours.

This Meeting, we are discussing the areas we control and such
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Jcstodds on May 22, 2007, 06:24:11 pm
We are on exam leave, so no school until next exam on friday!
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 22, 2007, 07:38:26 pm
 o? When are you out of school tho? I get out next tuesday
Posted on: May 22, 2007, 01:35:37 PM
GSF has been added, meeting starts in 3 hours
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Dave on May 22, 2007, 08:19:14 pm
yes sorry for such late time for you guys, i have 4 more school days left so I can bring it down a couple of hours.

This Meeting, we are discussing the areas we control and such

you do not control any areas
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 22, 2007, 08:41:38 pm
 not in server way, we control in under world way and business

I added ATR, a new group I found that started there group today
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: [GSF]Niall on May 22, 2007, 10:28:12 pm
Post removed - spam, basic flame against board moderators, seems he doesn't know his place


Dave
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Dave on May 22, 2007, 11:56:50 pm
i am incharge of the clans section i have the right to butt in when ever i need to , now get your facts right.

Now a word of warning for you Naill if you don#'t lay off all the war discussion and pointless posts about the board modders butting in i will put to the forum admins to give you a warning
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 23, 2007, 12:18:16 am
 What did GSF say?

GSF your done and out of commission

 Dave I want truce
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Dave on May 23, 2007, 12:19:50 am
Done...but u have to consider i still have to mod the forums ;)
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Jcstodds on May 23, 2007, 12:28:39 am
 Also, any cops that read- If you do want to crash our parties, make sure it is ORGANISED in RP fashion. Make a plan, do it right, and then we might not be tempted to shoot back lol- as this is the cas usually- a cop comes along all guns blazing and hell breaks loose (literally). Form teams, get warrants, send us a letter- DO IT THE RP WAY! and I assure we will respond in a more positive way.
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Dave on May 23, 2007, 12:30:16 am
Gr8 Jc just go give the cops more bloody ideas lol :lol:
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 23, 2007, 02:54:41 am
 one of the guys at meeting was wanted and they were waiting outside Mihail's Vodka Bar for me to arive when I did 2 cops came and started to shoot so I killed one and it went to big fight so wtf? Can these cops RP? I think not, a real cop would not go into a meeting where 10 other guys are there with guns
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Jcstodds on May 23, 2007, 10:28:28 am
one of the guys at meeting was wanted and they were waiting outside Mihail's Vodka Bar for me to arive when I did 2 cops came and started to shoot so I killed one and it went to big fight so wtf? Can these cops RP? I think not, a real cop would not go into a meeting where 10 other guys are there with guns

   Yes - give the cops ideas, and then Hell wouldnt have broke loose having to kill them- If they RP we can too. When I arrived in my ^Black limo, I got out, and was rammed and ran over by a bloody great SWAT tank thing. The guards tried to get him but didnt, so I ran after him, dragged him out and beated him to sh*t with a golf club. Hell who was already wanted finished him off for me, which was good so i wasnt wanted. Anyway back to the point. If I was a cop and not involved with any gangs, I would order a WARRANT to arrest one of the wanted men, and announce this. Then I would utilize a SWAT team to surround the building. Try to nagotiate, get him out. If they don't you can have a strategical advantage over the criminals. If necassary send in the country cops first xD .
  Anyway, what really happens is 2 cops came, one who was totally oblivious (in the swat tank) and another shooting - (who hell killed first). The guy didnt even know how to suspect- and that battle is a microcosm of how organised the police force is today.

PS, It would have been better if I could get on TS, I still cant get on - I get a robot woman saying- "error".
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: [GSF]Niall on May 23, 2007, 12:43:22 pm
i understant that one of our GSF members was a cop last night at the meeting and im sorry for that but he was a grove till member shot him. But i reject the fact that he shot anyone. oh yeah and hell why you not like GSF you said we could come to the meeting and then we got there we were waiting peacefully when an members shot gsf anto for nothing. I would advise you to get rid of in your commision as it gives you a bad name as they are dm'ers. And also cm told GSF to leave and anto said why do you not like us cm and they said we do like GSF but you are not allowed here. I dont understand how we are not allowed here when we were told by hell to come to the meeting.
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Jcstodds on May 23, 2007, 01:01:36 pm
  I think hell was mad about -firstly as you said a gangmember arrived as a cop to discuss gang terms, and this is extremely disrespectful, and went on to further dishonour all the gangs by sending a member who had played on the server for 4 days. It is all about respect, and it needs to be reciprocal for the commision to work.
  If you want to sort things out, dont piss everyone around. Get there, gang skins, all ok and we talk. Another thing that sparked it last night was that one of your members had his weapon out despite everyones holstered and did not comply with numerous requests to holster them. Niall, it is not you, sort out some of your gang members! YOu are a good player, and I trust everyone can come to peaceful terms, at least until V0.2 ...
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: [GSF]Niall on May 23, 2007, 02:14:27 pm
ok i will tell them in future to put away weapons in future but [GSF]anto is co-leader of GSF and he has been playing for months not 4 days i think you mean SVT. but admit one thing, what did was wrong .
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Jcstodds on May 23, 2007, 02:36:58 pm
SVT was there longer than Anto. You could agree both sides were wrong, however 2 wrongs dont make it right  ;)  :lol:
  Anyway that was yesterday, and although involved with the commision we [ALS] were not directly involved with the killing of your men.

Ps stop strikethroughing your text xD its well annoying  :lol:
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Dave on May 23, 2007, 05:19:49 pm
one of the guys at meeting was wanted and they were waiting outside Mihail's Vodka Bar for me to arive when I did 2 cops came and started to shoot so I killed one and it went to big fight so wtf? Can these cops RP? I think not, a real cop would not go into a meeting where 10 other guys are there with guns
those cops can RN, u CANNOT kill to help the suspect untill YOU ARE SUSPECTED ;) so they canm RP, so lay off it
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Tice on May 23, 2007, 06:06:50 pm
those coips can RPN, u CANNOT kill to help the suspect untill YOU ArE SUSPECTED ;) so they canm RP, so lay off it

I didn't know running alone into a building full of armed gangleaders and annoying them was RPing...
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Jcstodds on May 23, 2007, 06:21:34 pm
It is whether they choose to RP, that is the problem. They should read through my suggestions above.
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: dan_lcfc on May 23, 2007, 08:46:03 pm
 :wow: :conf: What happened here?
What was the meeting about?
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 23, 2007, 09:17:54 pm
meeting didn't happen fully, it will happen today
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: dan_lcfc on May 23, 2007, 09:18:41 pm
Ok, what time, and whats with the big text?
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Jcstodds on May 23, 2007, 09:21:48 pm
Yeah we can be on quite late tonight eh dan? I was alone yesterday xD. Can it not be helf at mihails and other guys restaurant, its not that i dont think the prices are to dear and overated, but it is very close to LSPD and prime target for party crashers ;)
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 23, 2007, 09:24:37 pm
 To show I am big voice here and run this thread, meeting will be 9:00 UK time
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: dan_lcfc on May 23, 2007, 09:31:00 pm
Yeah we can be on quite late tonight eh dan? I was alone yesterday xD. Can it not be helf at mihails and other guys restaurant, its not that i dont think the prices are to dear and overated, but it is very close to LSPD and prime target for party crashers ;)


Yea can be on late tonight, I may fall sleep because I got up at 1/2 5 this mornin and didnt get sleep till late...
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Cross on May 24, 2007, 05:15:03 pm
Sinds am the only active Dragon leader of this server, we are thinking about this group.
Shall we join it? Or won't me?

We are not inpressed yet, so we are still thinking.


Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Dave on May 24, 2007, 05:40:56 pm
To show I am big voice here and run this thread, meeting will be 9:00 UK time

You don't run this thread...i do D) :rofl:
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: [GSF]Niall on May 24, 2007, 05:46:09 pm
how do i stop strike throughing my text (is it admins?)  by the way anto has been on for 3 or 4 months i know cause he is my bro
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: CM Daniel on May 24, 2007, 06:51:55 pm
=CM= is leaving The Commission

The Commission made that war happen, so bye bye.
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: [GSF]Niall on May 24, 2007, 09:45:29 pm
why did we get kicked out????
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: [Asf]Muffin on May 24, 2007, 09:45:43 pm
bye bye
Asf did never agree to a DM against ML
hope we will stay allies anyway CM :)
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: RobbyMeister on May 24, 2007, 10:15:48 pm
Saints of Satan is leaving the Comission!

Reason: We got kicked because Hell_89 DM'ed me and i called him DM'er.
Congrats, Hell, you got a very big Comission left :) Good luck with your "big" organisation.

/ [ S ]RobbyMeister, Co-leader of Saints of Satan.
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 24, 2007, 10:33:09 pm
 you think I care about 2 silly groups leaving? I have 3 more on the way


  :ps: I was working with GSF all along, GSF you were never kicked out I just made it look that way
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: RobbyMeister on May 24, 2007, 10:40:14 pm
Actually, three groups have left the Comission, only today! SoS, CM and ASF has left you today.
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 24, 2007, 10:41:06 pm
 Asf left? Where does it say that?
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: [GSF]Niall on May 24, 2007, 11:12:37 pm
hell i dont get you it says at the start of this post Latest news:GSF KICKED OUT.
WTF could you please explain this
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Don_Matanza on May 24, 2007, 11:26:41 pm
[ATR] is out of the Commission
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: [Asf]Muffin on May 24, 2007, 11:31:00 pm
Asf has not left yet, but hell89, plz dont say is a sily gang ;) , and btw, what does the commision? i mean, i like meetings but what are these good for? :P

muffin :)
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Dave on May 25, 2007, 12:08:54 am
you think I care about 2 silly groups leaving? I have 3 more on the way


  :ps: I was working with GSF all along, GSF you were never kicked out I just made it look that way

backstabbing......
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 25, 2007, 01:01:56 am
 GSF I did that so people thought I kicked you out, most people at commission wanted to take GSF, CM and S mostly. I thought it was stupid to fight another respectable gang and I released what S were about and then wanted to help GSF, I have been trying to contact you
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: [GSF]Niall on May 25, 2007, 10:02:01 am
ok np
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Jcstodds on May 25, 2007, 02:57:30 pm
  Errm, well firstly due to my absence for about 24 hours, it seems many groups in the commision have misunderstood what the commision was intended for, and (AH SH1~ F(*&$@  bloody viruses and popups!!)    sorry......anyway...so without being condescending and trying not to make you look stupid for those who think its gang, I will explain what the commision is about:

bye bye
Asf did never agree to a DM against ML
Hell, you got a very big Comission left :) Good luck with your "big" organisation.
[/quote]
  It is not Hells commision. He is not a leader of the commision, no one is. It was founded on the basis of neutrality between gangs and groups of SA. Hell sets up the meetings, that is all. Every member of the commision has equal rights to have their view and speak it out.  It also is not an organisation, an organisation is a gang or group in itself.

[ATR] is out of the Commission
  This is a very new gang, they were invited to join the commision for our support. They have no long term history and so why did they leave? No idea, I dont think they (as most) understood the concept of the commision.

The Commission made that war happen, so bye bye.
  I cannot comment on the war itself, as I was not involved personally. To be in the commision then you had some involvement in creating any wars, as well participating. This unfortunately is an unfair comment and somewhat self inflictive, but still it is neither CM's lone involvement that that started any regrettable fueds.


  So really, to conclude the commision has unfortunately been unsuccesful on numerous grounds. I look upon this now from a 3rd person, nuetral perspective, because my involvement has been limited and I am not in favour of wars myself, as I have a business group, and war/ negative responce is not good for business so I have kept nuetral terms with all gangs; others maybe allies.
  The commicatin of this commity has been also limited. No one has specified what they hoped to get from the comision, and this has disallowed any forward movement. COmmunication is limited between the different gangs and their players, even moreso at meetings ;).
  There is not a singular person you can blame for anything in the commision. If you were involved, you had influence over the consequences good or bad, and started off bad with just about everyone hating ML. The truth is that you cannot blame one persons actions more than you can your own in the commision, as it is an agreement between gangs to atleast be nuetral. That is why this is failing. There are attacks from allsides within and out the commision. Hell has brought the gangs together, and it is the gangs petty fueds that have stopped it from working.

  To make any agreement succesful, you need trust, trust and respect for everyone within the agreement. Some people have been disrespected, but respect isnt handed out with bubblerapped packaging on weekdays. It is earned, so should give you more initiative to get more respect by being good RPers, or good people. It is the people that make the commision. Make it work.

  That is my contribution to the commision from ALS.
Regards,
Jcstodds 
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: [Asf]Muffin on May 25, 2007, 05:53:38 pm
Asf has left Commision
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 25, 2007, 10:15:10 pm
 your loss man, see ya
Posted on: May 25, 2007, 04:12:43 PM
Also who locked my thread on RAK and why? I am the one that said its shutdown
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Dave on May 25, 2007, 11:57:53 pm
your loss man, see ya
Posted on: May 25, 2007, 04:12:43 PM
Also who locked my thread on RAK and why? I am the one that said its shutdown

i did, it's how forum admins work they see a dead or closed topic - they lock, your fault
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 26, 2007, 01:34:05 am
 I guess I have to create a new one later if I start it up again- your loss more space on fourms
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: Dave on May 26, 2007, 01:50:04 am
I guess I have to create a new one later if I start it up again- your loss more space on fourms

no, i have to unlock it :)
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 29, 2007, 08:23:13 am
*updated
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 29, 2007, 08:35:37 am
why?
Title: Re: The Commission
Post by: hell1989 on May 31, 2007, 03:40:09 am
can you clean up this thread please Dave  D) remove everything, but my first post when you find the time
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