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Title: Changename changing
Post by: CBFasi on July 26, 2009, 02:02:41 pm
Well its been a long time coming, and finally its happeing

Changename is dissappearing from its current use..



Yes you can moan all you like but this will NOT change this decision made at higher level than myself
In fact the more you moan about it the more likely we will get so annoyed with you that you mayne told just go elsewhere if you dont like it, force issue and we will ban..



The current problem is with admins doing so many shiftname (permissions to use changename for free) and also admins having to search logs because you FORGOT what you changed to!

Admins role has nothing to do with your changing name!, that is YOUR problem not ours...



The future...

If you logon with a bad name, we will kick!, and KEEP kicking until you choose a decent name..

clan tag changes...

Well from now on its the JOB of the clanleader !!

/changetag [oldname] [newname]
That is how it will work...

It will ONLY work if the target player is online !!
It will check to see if the name newname can be used also!! (to stop duplications!)
It will ONLY work if one of these names IS part of the clantag that clanleader is managing!!

It will otherwise work as current, changing all names associated with ownerships etc..

If the OLDNAME has the tag it will AUTO REMOVE from clan...
If the NEWNAME has the tag it will AUTO ADD to clan... (at lowest level)

Technically this means NO NEED to have the commands to add or remove members anymore!!

When will this all happen, next few days...!!


REMEMBER

This name is NOT your character name it is a game indentifier, this is WHY you only need 1 name!!


Oh btw I am NOT kidding about the moaning changename is NOT an admin or developer problem its YOURS, dont like it shove it!
I am willing to carry out quite serious reactions to moaning on this topic!!
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: James_Alterlis on July 26, 2009, 02:08:18 pm
ok...
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Unmountable on July 26, 2009, 02:25:09 pm
Got it. ;)
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Nitrous on July 26, 2009, 02:26:16 pm
Got it.  ;)
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Dratted on July 26, 2009, 02:29:47 pm
Good Idea!


 :ps: PS REMOVED, wrong place... = CBFasi
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Whiteman on July 26, 2009, 03:42:04 pm
Yeah, this will make admins jobs easier, and players don't have to annoy the admins all the time :)
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Aksel on July 26, 2009, 03:51:28 pm
So you can only change name in the City hall's ?
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: CBFasi on July 26, 2009, 03:53:01 pm
No, read what it says above changename will be for clanleaders to use to add or remove members, the ONLY valid reason for a changename.
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Aksel on July 26, 2009, 04:56:22 pm
yeah, I found it out ingame, Thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: John_Vaughan on July 26, 2009, 05:10:43 pm
We can still use /changename at city hall with cost of 10k after this rule applies?
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Pandalink on July 26, 2009, 05:39:30 pm
We can still use /changename at city hall with cost of 10k after this rule applies?

No.
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: John_Vaughan on July 26, 2009, 06:10:11 pm
No.

Why..

It should remain imo.
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Oliver on July 26, 2009, 06:54:22 pm
If this is changed then multi accounting should be allowed too (with the permission of a game leader ofc) because if you fuck up with your name then you may want a new start (Bianconeri is a prime example).
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Jserg on July 26, 2009, 06:58:59 pm
Remove /shiftnames from admin rights and its solved
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Eugene on July 26, 2009, 07:35:10 pm
nice  :)
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Mafs on July 26, 2009, 08:18:53 pm
Just a tiny question.
Will the clanleader be able to apoint another person to use that function? As you can see, our leader Daniel is inactive as hell. Therefore if anyone joins us, we will need to wait for days .. weeks.
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Carbon on July 26, 2009, 08:44:27 pm
Co-Leaders and Member Managment aswell?  ;)
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Whiteman on July 26, 2009, 08:55:56 pm
mhh, maybe the group leader will tell who he wants to grant with those rights.
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: TheRock on July 26, 2009, 11:45:29 pm
eh... well... i believe it's a good for argo.....

lets get used to it...
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: ElMartu on July 26, 2009, 11:50:30 pm
Good for me.
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Pablo on July 27, 2009, 12:07:23 am
ok its nice, but where to apply for a gang leader??
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Aksel on July 27, 2009, 12:24:23 am
We will loose many regulars because of this.
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Pazienza on July 27, 2009, 12:32:14 am
We will loose many regulars because of this.

why? that's a great idea..
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Pandalink on July 27, 2009, 12:53:04 am
I assume anybody with current /clanmember rights will be able to do it.
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Oliver on July 27, 2009, 03:42:20 am
We will loose many regulars because of this.


We will only lose you.
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Stanley_Taylor on July 27, 2009, 06:42:55 am
The current problem is with admins doing so many shiftname (permissions to use changename for free) and also admins having to search logs because you FORGOT what you changed to!

For one thing, newbies ask in /p first how they have to change their name. Then it's usually a regular player explaining to them how the system works and not an admin.
Secondly, 'admins having to search logs because you forgot what you changed it to'? How many times has that happened? Twice? Just cuz there's a topic on the forums about it, doesn't make me believe this happens on a regular basis.
The first nickname I joined with was crap and I'm sure you'll have a lot of newbies being unhappy about their nickname and the fact they can't change it in to something else. This leads in to more multi-accounting, which means more work for you guys to do.

Face it, this is (in you language CBF) BOLLOX!
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Y2JFaN on July 27, 2009, 08:01:56 am
So this means we have to pick one RP name and stick with it for good? (I don't mean different tags for groups) I don't think i want to be known as 'gandalfscat' forever :P

I agree on all of this except for the fact of /changename in city hall being taken away, I think that should stay, but that's only my opinion.
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Hess on July 27, 2009, 08:26:29 am
For one thing, newbies ask in /p first how they have to change their name. Then it's usually a regular player explaining to them how the system works and not an admin.
Secondly, 'admins having to search logs because you forgot what you changed it to'? How many times has that happened? Twice? Just cuz there's a topic on the forums about it, doesn't make me believe this happens on a regular basis.
The first nickname I joined with was crap and I'm sure you'll have a lot of newbies being unhappy about their nickname and the fact they can't change it in to something else. This leads in to more multi-accounting, which means more work for you guys to do.

Face it, this is (in you language CBF) BOLLOX!
I am willing to carry out quite serious reactions to moaning on this topic!!
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Pancher on July 27, 2009, 08:29:32 am
VICTORY!!! Now i can spend 20% of my time ingame on other things then changename request all the time. Finally!!! This is a very good thing!
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Hess on July 27, 2009, 08:38:15 am
VICTORY!!! Now i can spend 20% of my time ingame on other things then changename request all the time. Finally!!! This is a very good thing!
Indeed :D
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: brainiac220 on July 27, 2009, 09:58:08 am
At last!!! Its over !! Good job CBF  :D
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Flash on July 27, 2009, 10:38:43 am
VICTORY!!! Now i can spend 20% of my time ingame on other things then changename request all the time. Finally!!! This is a very good thing!
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 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Legolas on July 27, 2009, 10:44:50 am
So this means we have to pick one RP name and stick with it for good? (I don't mean different tags for groups) I don't think i want to be known as 'gandalfscat' forever :P
You have to pick up one name... and you can play as many characters as you want  :) Who told that, you cant do it... You are bored being criminal... be cop... borred to be cop... be a businesman... taxi driver... medic... and many more. Its up to you, who you wana to be... not others  :)

EDIT:
At begining in VC, you have just one name... but you changed charracter by skins. If you have Robber skin, you could not be cop...

Quote
These are the basic roles for the VC characters:

COP: This is the police force. They try to keep the streets free of criminals and when it is done they sit around eating donuts or give tickets for speeding. Cops are not allowed to kill other cops or innocent civilians. But if they jail or shoot a criminal they are rewarded.

CRUSADER: A crusader is a security guard, He can secure stores, or transport money from the malls to the bank. However, as in real life, he does not have the right to kill when he is attacked. If attacked he should call the cops for support.

SAILOR:
A sailor is in town to look for action. They are drug smugglers and dealers, will look for whores and steal cars. After a lot of time on sea, and knowhing their ship will sail soon, they have little respect for the law. But sometimes sailors decide to stay and become shop owners as well.

MEXICAN: Having fled the poverty of Mexico, Mexicans are willing to do any job to survive in the city. They are cleaners, taxi drivers, and open small cafe's or shops. And if they can not get money the honest way, they will be criminal and deal drugs or steal money. Not all immigrants are legal. Those without greed card will hide from the police and in the mean time try to get enough money to buy their green card.

SECRET SERVICE: The name is misleading. These are the middle and high class civilians. They own stores, clubs and do all kinds of business. Not all of their business has to be legal.

ROBBERS:
In stpite of their look, not all robers are criminal. They are technicians, garage owners or window cleaners. And of course they can be real robbers.
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: MyleS on July 27, 2009, 10:56:33 am
You have to pick up one name... and you can play as many characters as you want  :) Who told that, you cant do it... You are bored being criminal... be cop... borred to be cop... be a businesman... taxi driver... medic... and many more. Its up to you, who you wana to be... not others  :)
Exactly, that " name " is nothing but a username... i can be " FoxClaw " and at the same time " Joaquin_Lopez " or " Shady_James " or whatever is my role about.... that username is only a reminder, like some kind of sign to make difference between players, so its not a big deal i think players will get used to it.
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Pandalink on July 27, 2009, 11:57:03 am
I'm always Panda anyway, I have no issue ;).
And as Legolas said, we have many skins..
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: cDa on July 27, 2009, 12:31:35 pm
So this means we have to pick one RP name and stick with it for good? (I don't mean different tags for groups) I don't think i want to be known as 'gandalfscat' forever :P

I agree on all of this except for the fact of /changename in city hall being taken away, I think that should stay, but that's only my opinion.

You have to pick one name to "floar over your head" you can rp any name as you wish... I constantly have same name but when people ask me for a name in a rp i say its Joe or tom or whaever..
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Oliver on July 27, 2009, 04:46:29 pm
You have to pick one name to "floar over your head" you can rp any name as you wish... I constantly have same name but when people ask me for a name in a rp i say its Joe or tom or whaever..
captain Denzell argonath :D
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: lavamike on July 27, 2009, 09:46:51 pm
Why..

It should remain imo.

dont like it shove it!
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Y2JFaN on July 27, 2009, 10:31:38 pm
You have to pick one name to "floar over your head" you can rp any name as you wish... I constantly have same name but when people ask me for a name in a rp i say its Joe or tom or whaever..
Thanks for answering, thats what I meant, I forgot you don't have to have RP name over head :P
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Cofiliano on July 29, 2009, 01:00:00 pm
Nice that it happend.
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Marting_Riggs on July 30, 2009, 06:32:02 am
i think it a awsome idea but i don't get how the command will work will be be like /shiftname for clanleaders only?

and can the main leader like Don give rights to the co-leader(s) ?
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Fido Dido on July 30, 2009, 09:23:58 am
that is YOUR problem not ours...

I think its WRONG
Why?
Admins are there to HELP players and punish the rulebreakers  :roll:
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: CBFasi on July 30, 2009, 03:57:17 pm
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The current problem is with admins doing so many shiftname (permissions to use changename for free) and also admins having to search logs because you FORGOT what you changed to!

Admins role has nothing to do with your changing name!, that is YOUR problem not ours...

Why should admins spend shitloads of time FIXING a problem CAUSED by a players stupidity! when we should be as you say HELPING players and punishing rulebreakers.

Its one thing to help players with game matters but another when that player CAUSED their OWN problem.

To deal with a SINGLE /changename f**kup can take HOURS if that players is a stupid as many are when it comes to /changename.

One player did /changename for fun, and then crashed, of course could not get back in, and he didnt even choose the name, he just hit random letters!!  Want to know how pissed off I was when he tried to blame the server!

Accessing logs is only part, and since so few CAN access the logs its worse (limited access is on purposes cos ALL is text is recorded), often its DAYS after and they dont even know what day so having to search over 8MB of pure text for a name they THINK they had across multiple logs (one for each day)ti, often they get that wrong too so its worse!

It took OVER 30 minutes just to sort a password reset out due to heavy use of server (but file under 2Kb) so imagine whats is like dealing with a load of 8Mb files !!
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Fido Dido on July 31, 2009, 09:10:26 am
Omg   :eek:
Ok i'm sorry :x
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: CBFasi on July 31, 2009, 11:39:06 am
If we could of built a idiot proof changename we could leave it but its just not possible to go and change the name in the samp launcher gui remotely...
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Eugene on August 01, 2009, 07:27:57 am
any news on what exact date this will be in full use?
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: CBFasi on August 01, 2009, 09:16:48 am
Depends on a small bit of testing, last test was not 100% success and I need to check the fix works but it takes two players to test and I have been rather busy, just come off a 12 hour night shift for a start
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: MarioRinarri on August 01, 2009, 09:23:34 am
I've got a suggestion, how about setting the City Hall name change fee to $100,000?
Only those who really require it will use it. Moreover, it certainly will reduce the amount of those who forget their nicknames/passwords..
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Pandalink on August 01, 2009, 03:35:53 pm
Just for clarification, what if somebody joins with the name... uh.... "kkklover" (for example) and registers?
Title: Re: Changename changing
Post by: Courage on August 01, 2009, 09:09:19 pm
good :D
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