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GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Gandalf on August 02, 2009, 12:43:12 pm

Title: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Gandalf on August 02, 2009, 12:43:12 pm: We are checking logs and again finding regular players abusing the storing and giving of weapons.
Not only is abusing such bugs a bannable offense, but if we notice once more that it happens by regulars on large scale, the commands will be removed.

So if you guys wish to keep the possibility to store weapons and give weapons to other players, I advise you to stop abusing bugs. If you can not do this, we will remove these features until they can be made safe from abuse.

Its your choice, and will be your responsibility.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: rJCaiG on August 02, 2009, 12:46:50 pm: Agreed. I've given way too many chances on people who I catch script abusing...
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: cDa on August 02, 2009, 01:07:23 pm: And sad thing is that this is beeing abused by veterans..
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Eric Wright on August 02, 2009, 01:18:04 pm: Remove everything please
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Traser on August 02, 2009, 01:18:30 pm: I don't even know how to store my weapons or skins >.<, So people Don't abuse it :S
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: aan_okeh on August 02, 2009, 01:24:48 pm: Please keep weapon store and the give weapon features, i use it to keep my weapon in house and buy some weapon from other player.
All i know script abuse with store weapon is when u keep melee weapon or unlimited bugged weapon rite?? Coz i never have melee weapon keep in store, and i just bought a little house in game to keep my weapon (all not a bugged weapon), and I always re-log if i have unlimited amount of weapon (Thanks to Julius, he told me this bug is ban-able).

But the give weapon, is it abuse script too? I never know what or how?

I think this "abuse - things" should be in one list that everyone can read, specially for newbie like me.. or there is, but i never know..
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Seskom on August 02, 2009, 01:36:44 pm: People, David,Gandalf,CBFasi and Gimli have worked hard for scripts, instead of RPing and having fun you seek for bugs in it. Whats the damn point? Is money really so important IN GAME?
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: aan_okeh on August 02, 2009, 01:50:39 pm: Quote from: Seskom on August 02, 2009, 01:36:44 pm
Is money really so important IN GAME?

Not really important but we need money in game, if not u will wearing that newbie skin forever.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Carbon on August 02, 2009, 02:19:34 pm: We should remove these commands for some time...
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Unmountable on August 02, 2009, 02:27:20 pm: True.. It wont be abused then..
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: MyleS on August 02, 2009, 02:48:38 pm: I agree, i guess it would be fair enough! Great features, But ppl just screw it up!
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Boxy on August 02, 2009, 04:29:38 pm: Why not just get rid of the /store and /load weapon commands. I don't think /giveweapon should be removed.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Stanley_Taylor on August 02, 2009, 04:43:06 pm: If you remove the /store- and /load weapon features, this would mean players with less money won't buy weapons any more. They're not gonna be able to buy guns again. This means they would go to the gangs/mafias who have abused and made the developers remove these features. That's so unfair.

I guess the developers have to make a decision: Punish the regulars/veterans who have played on the server for a long time, but have abused this, or remove the features and make these abusers even richer.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Syn on August 02, 2009, 04:51:19 pm: Quote from: Boxy on August 02, 2009, 04:29:38 pm
Why not just get rid of the /store and /load weapon commands. I don't think /giveweapon should be removed.
Why not just stop abusing it ffs??
that was not directed at you but the people in general. I almost never get guns in this. I never need them. Yet people complain if they die and lose them. They complain if they cant buy them. They complain that they cant shoot someone with them.

What is coming of the world these days lol

-Syn
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: John_Vaughan on August 02, 2009, 05:00:29 pm: By the way, If /store and /load gets removed, Will that remove DRUG Storing too?

And I don't really mind if GUN storing and loading gets removed, But why /giveweapon?
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: MyleS on August 02, 2009, 05:10:03 pm: Quote from: John_Vaughan on August 02, 2009, 05:00:29 pm
By the way, If /store and /load gets removed, Will that remove DRUG Storing too?

And I don't really mind if GUN storing and loading gets removed, But why /giveweapon?
what drugs have to do with this..? its not a random removale, its getting removed because players abuse it.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Mafs on August 02, 2009, 06:26:33 pm: If it would be removed, I suggest the old prices back on the weapons from ammunations :)
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: DHR.Mike on August 02, 2009, 06:28:05 pm: said if the Store scripts wil go even more said that people always trie to find ways to abuse it

Do the peopel who abuse it even know that there are over 20 Alpha testers Play on a emty server for like 2 montsh each day just to find Bugs and things you can abuse so it can get fixed !!

So Scripters and Dev's are allot of time bussy with fixing things changing things just becous it can get abused how stupid is that

Then people Finaly get a good Script the most peopel like and some Guy just comes and thinks hey i can abuse this .....
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Austin on August 02, 2009, 07:34:20 pm: Quote from: Seskom on August 02, 2009, 01:36:44 pm
People, David,Gandalf,CBFasi and Gimli have worked hard for scripts, instead of RPing and having fun you seek for bugs in it. Whats the damn point? Is money really so important IN GAME?

You have no clue how important money is for some people in this game yeah...
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Squeak on August 02, 2009, 10:01:02 pm: I would get really pissed if these features get removed, since I have a small armory in my house.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Indica on August 02, 2009, 10:31:55 pm: Quote from: Squeak on August 02, 2009, 10:01:02 pm
I would get really pissed if these features get removed, since I have a small armory in my house.
Agreed. I don't want to lose my weapons. Do I have to carry around my 600 sawnoff, 1,000 combat, 150 deagle, etc. that I have? That's impossible, first off, because I have different types of weapons (ie: sawnoff and combat) that need to be stored to keep.
I don't suggest removing the features, perhaps refining them. Disable storing of melee weapons.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Vince on August 02, 2009, 11:08:44 pm: If you're reading this then there's a high chance you've been here long enough to be a veteran and realize how much it sucks when shit like this happens....(example: everyone gets cadet blue names..) so take this as a real warning and not "LOL HOPE THEY DUN CATCH ME ZOMG!!11" ... Because if it does get removed... the people who use the commands legitimately are punished as well..
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Tanner on August 02, 2009, 11:10:34 pm: in a way this would be good but in a way it would be bad..It would be good because noone could script abuse this anymore..but its bad for the players who dont script abuse and store weapons because they dont feel like paying money everytime they that to buy guns and have to pay an entry fee to get in..also would storeing drgugs be taken off??if so i think that wont be good..but anywayz this is jsut what i think.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Rusty on August 02, 2009, 11:16:04 pm: I store / load weapons alot, if am one of those who's abused the bug somehow (I don't know how to abuse store/load) then am sorry.
I thought you couldn't store melee anyway?
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Violet on August 02, 2009, 11:22:12 pm: I have lost hundreds of thousands of dollars on accident by over writing weapons on top of each other, and I don't try to cheat weapons like some people do, it is damn annoying to see people fuck up the game for the rest.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Pazienza on August 02, 2009, 11:29:29 pm: Being someone who abusED it, I may say my point of view..
- the script bugs get abused only by 'veterans' because a newbie couldn't abuse a feature.. abusing takes a thorough knowledge of how the scripts work
- In argonath the money is becoming the most important aim, since with money you can buy houses, bizzes (seeing /loan got removed a newbie needs more cash, and requesting a loan would only make him poorer since he can't pay 300k back like it's nothing..) cars, weapons w/e so they see bug abusing the fastest way to earn money - "I are rich, I are famous". Wrong, none is famous by his income..

I'm no one to say that, but I think not only this feature should get removed.. Maybe that would change the mind of the players who's only aim is making money.. maybe..
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Vince on August 02, 2009, 11:30:14 pm: use /load weapon, it will show which weapons you have saved where etc., before you /save. :D
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Caion on August 02, 2009, 11:32:02 pm: As i don't stop, remove it. And see what happing. Active few laters, again lets see what everyone then see, after that it abuse again, remove it permantly.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Rusty on August 02, 2009, 11:45:18 pm: Quote from: Vince on August 02, 2009, 11:30:14 pm
use /load weapon, it will show which weapons you have saved where etc., before you /save. :D

so what are people doing this - /store weapon1 9999999 m4 ? or /store weapon1 999999 knife ?
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Vince on August 02, 2009, 11:54:46 pm: Quote from: caion on August 02, 2009, 11:32:02 pm
As i don't stop, remove it. And see what happing. Active few laters, again lets see what everyone then see, after that it abuse again, remove it permantly.
I don't understand what you mean... you will not stop, and saying remove it? Think about others for fucks sake... this isn't CaionRPG it's the whole community..

Quote from: Rusty on August 02, 2009, 11:45:18 pm
so what are people doing this - /store weapon1 9999999 m4 ? or /store weapon1 999999 knife ?
fools who want to make others suffer...
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: NitrOx on August 02, 2009, 11:57:47 pm: I myself am against removing these features, I am using them alot, and if someone decides to bug-abuse it he should be banned, PERMANENTLY
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: TheRock on August 02, 2009, 11:59:40 pm: even with warn nothing gonna stop i think...

we should have all a break from using them... at least this is my opinion.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Terox on August 03, 2009, 12:21:30 am: remove remove remove
Against

:war:
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: John_marshell on August 03, 2009, 12:48:23 am: Quote from: NitrOx on August 02, 2009, 11:57:47 pm
I myself am against removing these features, I am using them alot, and if someone decides to bug-abuse it he should be banned, PERMANENTLY

This is what i said to myself aswell! Look i never abuse the bug! and yes i have also overited weapons allot and lost my money! But i dont care about the money i loose! The problem is there are people who are not abusing it and have about 50-100 k weapons stored! if commands get removed what are they gonna do? myself i have brought allot of weapons and stored it i dont know why though! Well lets see.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Oliver on August 03, 2009, 08:39:35 am: Well, I am a major user of those scripts and honestly I do not even realise when it's bug abuse to give weapons so I myself support the decision to remove those possibilities. RS3 worked fine, after all.

Maybe you could make a list when it IS script abuse though so I know how to stay away from horrid rulebreaking.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Pancher on August 03, 2009, 09:33:29 am: I hope this is a wake up call for those who used the bug and not being banned and also the same to those who abuse it.. And specially to those who been thinking of it...
It's a good future which give player more possibility's to Role Play Weapon dealer and etc..
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Winters on August 03, 2009, 09:55:19 am: Remove them. I just don't see any point of keeping this feature, unless it's really needed. Too bad for the people who have a complete ammunation in their house. But think of the ROLEPLAY, it's getting fucked up because of some people abusing it. Just think about that, not only about the fact them getting removed and you losing your weapons.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Gandalf on August 03, 2009, 10:29:04 am: Quote from: Oliver on August 03, 2009, 08:39:35 am
Well, I am a major user of those scripts and honestly I do not even realise when it's bug abuse to give weapons so I myself support the decision to remove those possibilities. RS3 worked fine, after all.

Maybe you could make a list when it IS script abuse though so I know how to stay away from horrid rulebreaking.
Why make a list ? Use your own brains.
All weapons in game are supposed to be either bought in Ammunation or be under control of the police forces.
If you store weapons and you store more than you boght or were given by an arms dealer, its abusing a bug.
If you give to people more weapons as you bought, its abusing a bug.

If you buy weapons from someone who charges you a price that is impossible to get from normal scripts, its assisting in abusing a bug (bannable as well).

If you are in doubt about if its abuse or not, it is.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: MikeUK on August 03, 2009, 11:39:23 am: Whilst I agree partly with what NitrOx said, what is the player didn't realise he was 'abusing' a bug?
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Gandalf on August 03, 2009, 11:51:02 am: Quote from: MikeUK on August 03, 2009, 11:39:23 am
Whilst I agree partly with what NitrOx said, what is the player didn't realise he was 'abusing' a bug?
then he deserved to be banned for stupidity.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: MikeUK on August 03, 2009, 11:52:34 am: Quote from: Gandalf on August 03, 2009, 11:51:02 am
then he deserved to be banned for stupidity.
Fair Enough.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Aragorn on August 03, 2009, 11:53:10 am: Quote from: MikeUK on August 03, 2009, 11:39:23 am
Whilst I agree partly with what NitrOx said, what is the player didn't realise he was 'abusing' a bug?

You buy 100 you store 1000... Will you realize?
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Aragorn on August 03, 2009, 12:00:55 pm: Quote from: NitrOx on August 02, 2009, 11:57:47 pm
I myself am against removing these features, I am using them alot, and if someone decides to bug-abuse it he should be banned, PERMANENTLY

This is what was going on... And what is there else? Unban requests with plspls give me the last chance...

The bug of weapons' amount canNOT be fixed from the developers side... For that needs another update/repair/whatever from SA:MP...

Its another prove of Aragorn's position about those "ideas" and scripting: do not support every idea players bring, do not waste your time - it is unthankful, they will abuse it and all what you will get - either a shit in "omfg buggy script!", "Fucking admins abusers ban for nothing", "hey, pssst, wanna cheat by server bug?"...

Some of those "hurray new scripts! grats on release devs!" is a bullshit, as later the same people just abuse it - CHEAT and KNOW IT - then get in fight with admin "why the fuck am I banned, i did NOTHING"...
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Kessu on August 03, 2009, 12:03:11 pm: IF you remove these, can people (who have stored weapons without abusing) load their weapons before removing? I have over 1900 AK47 bullets in my house, and wouldn't like to lose 'em.. :(
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Gandalf on August 03, 2009, 12:09:11 pm: Quote from: Kessu on August 03, 2009, 12:03:11 pm
IF you remove these, can people (who have stored weapons without abusing) load their weapons before removing? I have over 1900 AK47 bullets in my house, and wouldn't like to lose 'em.. :(
you would lose them the first time you were killed...what is the point ?
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Nexxt on August 03, 2009, 12:21:58 pm: Quote from: Gandalf on August 03, 2009, 12:09:11 pm
you would lose them the first time you were killed...what is the point ?

Everyone will be carefull and wont fight to avoid lose them = less deathmatch..
woot? :P
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Stanley_Taylor on August 03, 2009, 01:57:40 pm: I understand none of the cops care about this, but this doesn't really concern you.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Altair_Carter on August 03, 2009, 03:15:24 pm: Quote from: Rusty on August 02, 2009, 11:45:18 pm
so what are people doing this - /store weapon1 9999999 m4 ? or /store weapon1 999999 knife ?
Congratulations, you just opened a forbidden bug.
Before you say "It most likely was already leaked", Dont think that ALL people on argonath saw it.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Pandalink on August 03, 2009, 03:28:34 pm: Why are you shouting at Rusty?
Its obvious was the abuse is from the dev's explanations.

:neutral:
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: MikeUK on August 03, 2009, 03:41:29 pm: Quote from: Stanley_Taylor on August 03, 2009, 01:57:40 pm
I understand none of the cops care about this, but this doesn't really concern you.
What does that mean, I store weapons in my house.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Stanley_Taylor on August 03, 2009, 03:50:58 pm: Quote from: MikeUK on August 03, 2009, 03:41:29 pm
What does that mean, I store weapons in my house.

Figure it out.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: hell1989 on August 03, 2009, 05:03:02 pm: How is this being abused? Please explain, what glitch/bug are you talking about?
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: TruthSvensson on August 03, 2009, 05:32:52 pm: Quote from: Nexxt on August 03, 2009, 12:21:58 pm
Everyone will be carefull and wont fight to avoid lose them = less deathmatch..
woot? :P
No
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: ElMartu on August 03, 2009, 06:44:01 pm: Quote from: hell1989 on August 03, 2009, 05:03:02 pm
How is this being abused? Please explain, what glitch/bug are you talking about?

You can store more than one melee weapon with /store hence having infinite knives for example.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Rusty on August 03, 2009, 06:58:06 pm: Quote from: Altair_Carter on August 03, 2009, 03:15:24 pm
Congratulations, you just opened a forbidden bug.
Before you say "It most likely was already leaked", Dont think that ALL people on argonath saw it.

Actually, i only asked if this is what people were doing. If i opened a "Forbidden Bug" don't you think Aragorn or Gandalf would have edited my post by now? And slapped me with a warning for being stupid.

Now that it's confirmed this is what people were doing i'm happy i got an answer from someone who isn't so "Up in your Face".
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Kessu on August 04, 2009, 10:22:29 am: Quote from: Gandalf on August 03, 2009, 12:09:11 pm
you would lose them the first time you were killed...what is the point ?
I already lost most of mine weapons when I got killed, but anyways, my point was that we don't lose weapons due to scripts removal, just when someone kills us, hopefully for RP reason :)
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Proxan on August 04, 2009, 12:48:30 pm: Quote from: Aragorn on August 03, 2009, 12:00:55 pm
This is what was going on... And what is there else? Unban requests with plspls give me the last chance...

The bug of weapons' amount canNOT be fixed from the developers side... For that needs another update/repair/whatever from SA:MP...

Its another prove of Aragorn's position about those "ideas" and scripting: do not support every idea players bring, do not waste your time - it is unthankful, they will abuse it and all what you will get - either a shit in "omfg buggy script!", "f**king admins abusers ban for nothing", "hey, pssst, wanna cheat by server bug?"...

Some of those "hurray new scripts! grats on release devs!" is a bullshit, as later the same people just abuse it - CHEAT and KNOW IT - then get in fight with admin "why the f**k am I banned, i did NOTHING"...

Man, that's so true...
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: John_marshell on August 04, 2009, 01:20:27 pm: Quote from: Rusty on August 03, 2009, 06:58:06 pm
Actually, i only asked if this is what people were doing. If i opened a "Forbidden Bug" don't you think Aragorn or Gandalf would have edited my post by now? And slapped me with a warning for being stupid.

Now that it's confirmed this is what people were doing i'm happy i got an answer from someone who isn't so "Up in your Face".

Indeed! Look the problem here is everyone is battling eachother here with to keep or remove the command! Dont just think about yourself in this case! Think about the admins/developers whom have to deal with this problem read logs and see who is asbusing this scipt! You shouldnt abuse the bug! rather report it or report others who use it! Even if its your brother/girlfriend playing in the server!
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: hijol_goswami on August 04, 2009, 07:15:59 pm: well i never even used /store or /load and i think i did use /giveweapon and thats all . well dont remove give weapon its awesome love argonath :money: :war:
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Oliver on August 04, 2009, 10:54:46 pm: Quote from: Gandalf on August 03, 2009, 10:29:04 am
Why make a list ? Use your own brains.
All weapons in game are supposed to be either bought in Ammunation or be under control of the police forces.
If you store weapons and you store more than you boght or were given by an arms dealer, its abusing a bug.
If you give to people more weapons as you bought, its abusing a bug.

If you buy weapons from someone who charges you a price that is impossible to get from normal scripts, its assisting in abusing a bug (bannable as well).

If you are in doubt about if its abuse or not, it is.

Ah okay, I see. Thanks.

Quote from: Winters on August 03, 2009, 09:55:19 am
Remove them. I just don't see any point of keeping this feature, unless it's really needed. Too bad for the people who have a complete ammunation in their house. But think of the ROLEPLAY, it's getting f**ked up because of some people abusing it. Just think about that, not only about the fact them getting removed and you losing your weapons.

Well, why not remove /weaponequip too? Everyone else has to pay for their guns, why not you? And sure it is RP to run into your car, get a kevlar vest and loads of M4 ammo and repeat once you're running low?
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: (tr)Ollie on August 04, 2009, 11:29:28 pm: Quote from: Winters on August 03, 2009, 09:55:19 am
Remove them. I just don't see any point of keeping this feature, unless it's really needed. Too bad for the people who have a complete ammunation in their house. But think of the ROLEPLAY, it's getting f**ked up because of some people abusing it. Just think about that, not only about the fact them getting removed and you losing your weapons.

You're saying that having a house full of guns is non RP? Fair enough in a small house, but what about in an FBI Rancher? I am sure that you don't get FBI cars rolling around with Kevlar Jackets in and thousands of rounds of Sub Machine Gun in. In a house on the other hand, plenty of "weapons" could be stored! If you remove /store, /load and /giveweapon, remove the police /weaponequip (or w/e it is)!

The people that abuse the bugs should be banned and if they don't realise they are doing it then they honestly shouldn't be playing on a computer.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Boromir on August 05, 2009, 12:18:56 am: Well, if those stupid players consider themselves "regulars", I have to say they are retarded..
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Wayne on August 05, 2009, 12:24:20 am: Quote from: MenInBlack on August 05, 2009, 12:18:56 am
Well, if those stupid players consider themselves "regulars", I have to say they are retarded..
There is a race of money, not for friendship or RP.
people are hungry because of money, i'd say most of.
players forget rp and go after money, that's it.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Bianconeri on August 05, 2009, 10:52:50 am: Quote from: cDa on August 02, 2009, 01:07:23 pm
And sad thing is that this is beeing abused by veterans..

indeed, i dont know how to store skins weapons anyway, and not taking risks with it

givingweapons i only use it for police work, with our smg to freecops/cadet to help

ppl think before you do!
it are mainly regulars so you should know better!

perhaps just temp ban them to learn them? or perm ban

Quote from: Winters on August 03, 2009, 09:55:19 am
Remove them. I just don't see any point of keeping this feature, unless it's really needed. Too bad for the people who have a complete ammunation in their house. But think of the ROLEPLAY, it's getting f**ked up because of some people abusing it. Just think about that, not only about the fact them getting removed and you losing your weapons.

dont agree at all with it,
storing weapons in a house? thats none RP? you have to hide your guns somewhere, or is it great RP to have 10 guns with you?
also giving weapons should be possible to, nothing none RP to it, its a very good command

why dont do like you do at other script abuse? ban them, or warn first
other abused scripts arent getting removed also
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Stanley_Taylor on August 05, 2009, 05:45:48 pm: Quote from: Bianconeri on August 05, 2009, 10:52:50 am
indeed, i dont know how to store skins weapons anyway, and not taking risks with it

givingweapons i only use it for police work, with our smg to freecops/cadet to help

ppl think before you do!
it are mainly regulars so you should know better!

perhaps just temp ban them to learn them? or perm ban

dont agree at all with it,
storing weapons in a house? thats none RP? you have to hide your guns somewhere, or is it great RP to have 10 guns with you?
also giving weapons should be possible to, nothing none RP to it, its a very good command

why dont do like you do at other script abuse? ban them, or warn first
other abused scripts arent getting removed also

Finally a cop who is able to be objective when he forms his opinion. :hurray:
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: CBFasi on August 05, 2009, 08:27:41 pm: Actually a number of other scripts are also getting affected, and some have already been adjusted due to abuse
Post Merge: August 05, 2009, 08:30:15 pm
I do not relish the idea of removing script I worked hard to write, but if it lkeeps on getting abused I will juts return weapons back to Rs3 prices, and maybe even remove store/load for weapons, that would mean inability to get at what is stored!!!
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Whiteman on August 05, 2009, 09:06:17 pm: Quote from: CBFASI on August 05, 2009, 08:27:41 pm
Actually a number of other scripts are also getting affected, and some have already been adjusted due to abuse
Post Merge: August 05, 2009, 08:30:15 pm
I do not relish the idea of removing script I worked hard to write, but if it lkeeps on getting abused I will juts return weapons back to Rs3 prices, and maybe even remove store/load for weapons, that would mean inability to get at what is stored!!!
That's bad :conf:
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Stanley_Taylor on August 06, 2009, 12:02:26 am: Quote from: CBFASI on August 05, 2009, 08:27:41 pm
and maybe even remove store/load for weapons, that would mean inability to get at what is stored!!!

Then I say goodbye to Argonath. :cry:
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Zaila on August 06, 2009, 12:11:07 am: Quote from: Stanley_Taylor on August 06, 2009, 12:02:26 am
Then I say goodbye to Argonath. :cry:

You say goodbye to Argonath if they are removing a feature that many is abusing?

Edited: noticed i wrote wrong >_<
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: aan_okeh on August 06, 2009, 12:16:10 am: Can it be checked? Unrealistic weapons on store.. and investigate then banned the script abuser? Coz after read this thread i always buy weapon on Ammu-nation.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: CBFasi on August 06, 2009, 12:51:34 am: The future of these commands depend on the abusers...
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Stanley_Taylor on August 06, 2009, 01:57:32 am: Quote from: Zaila on August 06, 2009, 12:11:07 am
You say goodbye to Argonath if they are removing a feature that many is abusing?

Edited: noticed i wrote wrong >_<

Thank you for asking me a rethorical question captain obvious..
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Vince on August 06, 2009, 02:05:39 am: Quote from: CBFASI on August 06, 2009, 12:51:34 am
The future of these commands depend on the abusers...

Yeah. Meaning:

IF YOU'RE UNSURE OR DON'T KNOW, ASK, OR DON'T DO IT.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Dratted on August 06, 2009, 03:59:12 am: I've Never Abused it on purpose, But I may have rounded it off E.G

I have 1344 M4 ARMED

I /store weapon1 m4 1444

Sometimes I do that, Much quicker

Then it says

1344 Stored, And I have the right amount inside my "Armoury"

Am I abusing?

-Thanks

-Dratted
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: hijol_goswami on August 06, 2009, 09:03:40 am: help argonath :pop:
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Thomas 'Leroy' Crof on August 06, 2009, 11:38:20 am: Quote from: Dratted on August 06, 2009, 03:59:12 am
I've Never Abused it on purpose, But I may have rounded it off E.G

I have 1344 M4 ARMED

I /store weapon1 m4 1444

Sometimes I do that, Much quicker

Then it says

1344 Stored, And I have the right amount inside my "Armoury"

Am I abusing?

-Thanks

-Dratted

I don't know how you get that amount of guns... I think it's just bugged ammo, and storing it then is abuse.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: TruthSvensson on August 06, 2009, 12:34:27 pm: Quote from: CBFASI on August 06, 2009, 12:51:34 am
The future of these commands depend on the abusers...
It's like burning a forest to catch one person :roll:
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: CBFasi on August 06, 2009, 09:49:45 pm: So them tress better help get that person!
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Oliver on August 07, 2009, 01:57:47 pm: Quote from: CBFASI on August 05, 2009, 08:27:41 pm
but if it lkeeps on getting abused I will juts return weapons back to Rs3 prices
Please do it, then everyone wouldn't have an arsenal with them always..

Quote from: RaSgO on August 06, 2009, 11:38:20 am
I don't know how you get that amount of guns... I think it's just bugged ammo, and storing it then is abuse.
I have like 3k SMG in my house, I had 2k M4 once too. Bought it all in ammunation.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Eminem. on August 08, 2009, 01:31:59 pm: I suggest we should remove them for some time to see how things go without /store /giveweapon.Then if Developers think it's better then these commands should be removed forever!
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Stanley_Taylor on August 08, 2009, 03:33:41 pm: Permban the abusers and leave these features alone! :m4:
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Indica on August 08, 2009, 04:42:11 pm: Quote from: Stanley_Taylor on August 08, 2009, 03:33:41 pm
Permban the abusers and leave these features alone! :m4:
This has proven to not be an effective way of catching abusers and stopping abuse.

Perhaps we should have a limit of how many bullets of each weapon (along with types of weapons) based on houses. For example, my flat in San Fierro should only be able to store pistols, shotguns, and drive-by capable machine guns. However, Gvardia/Corleone HQ should be able to store any weapon, due to their size. This would stop abuse on /store weapon because no one but the owners can store weapons in the larger houses (people that I doubt would abuse).
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Stanley_Taylor on August 08, 2009, 07:30:33 pm: Quote from: Indica on August 08, 2009, 04:42:11 pm
This has proven to not be an effective way of catching abusers and stopping abuse.

Perhaps we should have a limit of how many bullets of each weapon (along with types of weapons) based on houses. For example, my flat in San Fierro should only be able to store pistols, shotguns, and drive-by capable machine guns. However, Gvardia/Corleone HQ should be able to store any weapon, due to their size. This would stop abuse on /store weapon because no one but the owners can store weapons in the larger houses (people that I doubt would abuse).

That sounds good, except for the types of weapons. I wanna be a freecop with M4 :war:
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: The_Wolf on August 08, 2009, 07:32:41 pm: You give them a hand and they bite off your showder....
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Julian on August 09, 2009, 02:11:21 am: Quote from: CBFASI on August 05, 2009, 08:27:41 pm
Actually a number of other scripts are also getting affected, and some have already been adjusted due to abuse
Post Merge: August 05, 2009, 10:30:15 am
I do not relish the idea of removing script I worked hard to write, but if it lkeeps on getting abused I will juts return weapons back to Rs3 prices, and maybe even remove store/load for weapons, that would mean inability to get at what is stored!!!
Yes please make guns cost more, at least make heavy guns more expensive, so people don't carry an arsenal of guns when just out driving around, for example. It could also lead to more roleplay without guns. If there's a fight, it could be a fistfight or a battle with knifes/bats or something, I never see that anymore.
Now, most people just pull up a heavy weapon and starts to shoot.

It doesn't bother me at all if people always carry a deagle or a silenced pistol, but these huge guns are too much unless it's used for something planned, like kidnappings, robbings, etc.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: hell1989 on August 11, 2009, 03:01:53 am: So the only bug I can see here is, infinite Melee weapons? I see no other abuse.
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: Gird3r on August 11, 2009, 12:01:49 pm: I don't see the point of having commands wich seems to be abused 24/7...

We did not have this sort of stuff in mta:vc, and people played fine anyway. But that's because we was given our guns. However, storing your guns because of being lazy?

Is it that hard to drive to your nearest annumation and buy some new guns after your death?
Really, for those few who actually did not cheat on single player, didn't you go and buy guns too after your death? :poke:

And, are these guns so important, that you are willing to abuse a bug just to get more?

Greed...
Title: Re: Last chance if you want to keep some features.
Post by: TruthSvensson on August 11, 2009, 12:24:15 pm: Quote from: Gird3r on August 11, 2009, 12:01:49 pm
I don't see the point of having commands wich seems to be abused 24/7...

We did not have this sort of stuff in mta:vc, and people played fine anyway. But that's because we was given our guns. However, storing your guns because of being lazy?

Is it that hard to drive to your nearest annumation and buy some new guns after your death?
Really, for those few who actually did not cheat on single player, didn't you go and buy guns too after your death? :poke:

And, are these guns so important, that you are willing to abuse a bug just to get more?

Greed...
I never abused this bug and i like this script so if this gets deleted it will be bad for me ( And others who didn't abuse and used it )