Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Knoothead on September 23, 2009, 09:25:13 pm
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I see crashes as a bug, as they aren't meant to be there.
So well, sometimes when you get chased and you crash, cops occupy the vehicle the criminal recently used and drive it away so the criminal can't easily reach it when he get back ingame. I see this as bug abusing as it gives advantage over other players.
I agree, they can occupy it to keep the carhp (Carhp gets back to 100/100 if you crash and then join again.)
What do you think about this? In my opinion I see this as bug-abusing and there should be an enforced rule against this.
Don't blame freecops, I've seen ARPD Officers doing this also...
And; I know this will come up in the future: "Well, when cops crash, criminals doesn't wait for us!" Well! There's often not just 1 cop on 1 criminal in a chase. There's more cops then criminals USUALLY. And it's pretty hard for us to notice if you've crashed or not.
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This is basically abusing a glitch to get advantage.
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This is basically abusing a glitch to get advantage.
Yep... this also doesn't just go for cops, but players too, maybe your trying to kill a guy, and he crashes... they take the car and leave you open to be shot.
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Yep... this also doesn't just go for cops, but players too, maybe your trying to kill a guy, and he crashes... they take the car and leave you open to be shot.
Yeah, that's probably true, even though I haven't been in a such situation.
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What bug? Is there a "crash" bug somewhere?? :conf:
Post Merge: September 23, 2009, 11:40:41 am
I do agree that cop's should give the vehicle back to make it more "fair" but we can also start discuss on suspect that have like 1 hp and armour gone that crash and get it all back to full. Should you don't ask the cops to shoot it down back first to? ;)
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What bug? Is there a "crash" bug somewhere?? :conf:
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Well, play on a server without scripts with 80~ players = Almost No crashes.
Play on a server with scripts and 80~ players = Crashes.
So yeah, I would call crashes are bugs as they aren't meant to be there.
Post Merge: September 23, 2009, 09:43:17 pm
I do agree that cop's should give the vehicle back to make it more "fair" but we can also start discuss on suspect that have like 1 hp and armour gone that crash and get it all back to full. Should you don't ask the cops to shoot it down back first to? ;)
You got a point, I would agree to be slapped down (Or whatever) to the ammount of HP I had before crash.
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Report the bug here: Click Me!! (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?board=98.0)
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Report the bug here: Click Me!! (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?board=98.0)
I will Ignore that ;)
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I was here and tried to stop the other cops to shoot but, but they didn't listen ;S. I give the criminals some secound to escape after crash..
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I was here and tried to stop the other cops to shoot but, but they didn't listen ;S. I give the criminals some secound to escape after crash..
Yeah well, this happend like once today but, It's happen for everyone and it's pretty disturbing :P
Even one time, some cop stole my vehicle when I crashed and blew it up :trust:
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Listen, we really can not control if somebody crashes. If we stop for criminals, in most cases, they come back, start ordering around with the reason "I crashed"...
"I want 20 seconds DO NOT SHOOT ME!!!!"
"When I crashed I remember having only 3 cops after me! Why are there 5 cops now?! NO WAY!!!"
"I am using a sixth car because you cops blew up my car when it was on black smoke!!!!!"
And the reason for cops being more still makes no sense. If you want to spend atleast 10 minutes "restoring" the situation because a criminal's crash, you should agree doing the same when EVERY cop crashes!!
Also when you can't drive and you crash while having a car on black smoke damage... Don't blame the cops for shooting the car whilst a cop jacks the driver who crashed and making it go boom...
I can say a lot of criminals in Argonath who, in a way or another, can not notice they ACCEPT that cops will outnumber them, accept to be frisked and forced to hand over weed, be arrested later with a warrant, be interrogated and etcetera once they become criminals.
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I thinks its stupid, because the cops can steal our car and drive it away, we cant take their cars and drive it to hell..
I thinks this should be rule breaking by abusing crashes to get more advanges to catch suspects, its not the suspects fault that he gets crashes and he cant do anything about it either can the cop.
Yes suspects runs away, but doesnt cops shoot suspects down like hell when they are spawning after crash ? Yes they do, i've tried before when i spawned i had like 10 health left and my car was destroyed like hell after 2 seconds i didnt even got time to get back in the chase so i had to surrender, that sucks thats really not a pursuit..
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I say, don't put any rules about it.
That way, if a player wants to be known as good, fair-playing guy, he will try to not take too much of an advantage after a crash.
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Cops should enjoy a chase... Instead of trying to kill the suspect (for whatever reason you want) while he is relogging from crash, let them get back in car and continue the chase.
I like 9r2e5i3k's idea.... a lot better actually...
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Like suspects wait when a cop crashes :rofl:
It's not bug abusing. It's another thing which pisses people of, but is totally allowed. (like bunny hoping)
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Like suspects wait when a cop crashes :rofl:
It's not bug abusing. It's another thing which pisses people of, but is totally allowed. (like bunny hoping)
Maybe suspects doesnt wait but aint there like 20 cops online most of the time if not more ?
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No, I'll give an example:
You are following a guy trough LS, LV and in BC you crash. No other units around. I can count the people who would wait for the cop on one hand.
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Hopefully SA:MP will have some sync in the next 0.3 version.
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Like suspects wait when a cop crashes :rofl:
It's not bug abusing. It's another thing which pisses people of, but is totally allowed. (like bunny hoping)
I wait for cop if he crashes only when other cops aint around cus otherwise I will get shot at -.-
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No, I'll give an example:
You are following a guy trough LS, LV and in BC you crash. No other units around. I can count the people who would wait for the cop on one hand.
If I notice the cop crash, I would wait, but it's quite hard to know if a cop crashes or just waiting for backup.
I say, don't put any rules about it.
That way, if a player wants to be known as good, fair-playing guy, he will try to not take too much of an advantage after a crash.
Well, Yeah you can choose which players you want to roleplay with and which you don't want to roleplay with. but It's a bit harder to choose which cops that should chase you :P
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I have posted this before and there are not gonna be any rules on this.
My opinion: Freecops don't even do this. It's usually Cadets and Officers. Anyway, I think it should be allowed, only if the cop enters his own vehicle after the suspect is back in the server. Also, in some areas it's crowded and other cops arrive to the scene. They will start blasting away (spawnkilling) instantly when they see him because they don't listen or don't care what the cop was doing. Only then a cop should not enter this suspect's vehicle. This may be complicated but I think this is the most ethical way of handling this situation.
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you should agree doing the same when EVERY cop crashes!!
are you kinda dumb or cant you read ?? sorry if i sound offending but i role play a criminal allot so mutch that i get some times pretty pissed of cops not becous the pwn me i don't care about that its the way how the do it by using a crash or a hp bug for themselves
or some even come 100 times back its allot i know but how fair is dead when i die i cant help my friend the can ...
anyway back to the point why i started this whole replie ok JayL for Example i am unarmed in a cheeta 5 ARPD cops with MP5 behind me one of them crashes i stop you wanna know what happends then i get shot to shit !!!!by the 4 other cops and if i tell them wait one of your partheners crashed the are like whe dont give a shit becosu the ARPD sucks at team work atleast most parts not all
now Second posibillity 5 cops behind me i crqash i come back my car is gone and i am frozen and the all are around me with pepper spray how fair is that ??
then you say hey you dont do it when cops crash OFC NOT becous i already have 5 other cops behind me if it was just 1 i dint mind to wait i even do that but if another cops i run again !!!
so in my opinion YES its Exstreemly bug abuse if cops do it Criminals wil never wait for the cop to return and then shoot the hell out of them and even steal ther cazr whats quite inpossible :lol:
anyway thats what i wanted to say about it
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No, I'll give an example:
You are following a guy trough LS, LV and in BC you crash. No other units around. I can count the people who would wait for the cop on one hand.
I used to wait for cops when they crashed, dunno bout outher niggas
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Agreed, cops should give criminals time to escape after a crash.
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Agreed, cops should give criminals time to escape after a crash.
Well now there's okay because now you like never crash :)
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Crashes have been reduced in 0.3a. Actually I count it as player's problem if he crashes, because some crashes might be caused by players (like leaving lights mod on and leaving the vehicle away) and so on. From the cops it would be nice if they would allow suspect to run, but actually it's their choice to do so or not to do so. As mentioned before - not only the suspects crashes. Also, if it would be implented as a rule, it wouldn't be possible to enforce it.
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If anyone crashes, criminals don't stop to let cops catch up, and cops don't let criminals get back in their vehicle. This is balanced as it is. Why complicate the rules even more for such minor advantages?
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If anyone crashes, criminals don't stop to let cops catch up, and cops don't let criminals get back in their vehicle. This is balanced as it is. Why complicate the rules even more for such minor advantages?
Spawnkilling sucks. :conf: