Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Stanley_Taylor on October 13, 2009, 05:47:45 am
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I'd like to discuss a situation that is common to role-playing criminals that is very annoying:
When a cop breaks the server rules, something that has nothing to do with role-playing, and a player becomes a suspect. I'm not the kinda person that cries about it in /p like EVERYBODY else. I /gu and let an officer investigate, so admins can play or do other admin shit.
First thing I do when an officer comes, is tell this officer I got abused. Some of these officers /frisk you anyway. Why? This shouldn't have to do anything with role-play, but with breaking the server rules. Shouldn't this be all OOC chat? Why do some of these officers /frisk you anyway? Should I be crying in /p like most people, annoy the whole server, just so I don't have to face the risk of getting shot by a freecop inside LSPD and getting a /frisk? You tell me...
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Weather your abused or not, your going through a police processing. Meaning they will search you for all weapons and drugs.
And a word of advise: If your abused, its not an admin matter. It is a police matter. Like you said, /gu and go to the station. There a SGT or higher will deam the crime abuse or not.
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Weather your abused or not, your going through a police processing. Meaning they will search you for all weapons and drugs.
And a word of advise: If your abused, its not an admin matter. It is a police matter. Like you said, /gu and go to the station. There a SGT or higher will deam the crime abuse or not.
Well if he is wrongly suspected, then its not fair to withdraw all his drugs from him.
Personally, as I walk into the station I metagame swallowing the drugs I have so
that cops cant frisk it.
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Weather your abused or not, your going through a police processing. Meaning they will search you for all weapons and drugs.
And a word of advise: If your abused, its not an admin matter. It is a police matter. Like you said, /gu and go to the station. There a SGT or higher will deam the crime abuse or not.
Once again, I'm talking about cops breaking the server rules, that counts as abuse too :roll:. That's actually an admin matter, but since the admins are so busy and players moan in /p when they're abused, they must /gu and let a senior officer investigate. That's what should happen, but hardly anyone does it.
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So if I understand you correctly your main point is that they should not engage in IC activity (like /frisk) while investigating an abused suspect, correct?
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So if I understand you correctly your main point is that they should not engage in IC activity (like /frisk) while investigating an abused suspect, correct?
Bingoo.
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You have a fairly valid point. Whenever someone claims to be abused I don't /frisk until I prove them to be wrong and that the crime was valid.
Vince, I suggest we put a new regulation that when investigating crimes, we shouldn't /frisk until the investigation is over.
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Please guys. There's a difference between role-play abuse and rule-breaking abuse. A cop can be excessive and /su quicker than should, but he can also rule-break by /su a civilian something he did not do. I'm talking about the latter. When a suspect is the victim of role-play abuse, he propably did something wrong to start with. He should be frisked.
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Check it. If i arrest you for speeding and i find drugs on you, im arresting you for speeding and being in possession. Being in possesion is a crime and instead of you getting away with a ticket, you get a nice little cell. Best thing to is not carry drugs on you :)
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Check it. If i arrest you for speeding and i find drugs on you, im arresting you for speeding and being in possession. Being in possesion is a crime and instead of you getting away with a ticket, you get a nice little cell. Best thing to is not carry drugs on you :)
Read the damn topic please.
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Personally, as I walk into the station I metagame swallowing the drugs I have so
that cops cant frisk it.
1. That's powergaming
2. Cops can still frisk you, you still have the drugs. Ofcourse if you smoke them all, then that's a different story.
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Please guys. There's a difference between role-play abuse and rule-breaking abuse. A cop can be excessive and /su quicker than should, but he can also rule-break by /su a civilian something he did not do. I'm talking about the latter. When a suspect is the victim of role-play abuse, he propably did something wrong to start with. He should be frisked.
Roleplay abuse?? lol/me abuses
/su 6 abuse???
D:
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Where is that rule stated that they may not frisk you as a arrested suspect?
Often when someone has an "invalid" crime they often gets an unsuspecting fast like "noob", "stop", "sexy ass" and etc... However if the crime is "valid" (speeding, assult etc..) then it's an cop matter what so ever your guilty to it or not..
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Thanks for your answers. I think it's clear that I should be moaning to the admins instead of going to the PD.
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Thanks for your answers. I think it's clear that I should be moaning to the admins instead of going to the PD.
Dont do that, But yes i do agree with you on this whole thing. Whenever i /gu and try to explain they frisk me and take me drugs.. Thats one of the reason i dont play Argonath anymore, Because most of the cops are abuser's and take their job way to seriously and are not trying to serve justice but to arrest or kill more people.
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anyways , maybe its kinda offtopic here , but over 50 percent of population is police , i think we need higher security on /duty , maybe some form or application to police duty , cuz with 50 percent of police is not normal in any country IRL and also , many new players and also DMers use it to get access to weapons and to DM regulars and other new people , this form thing or forum application thing is also in use in many other servers and i dont think it would hurt ours either :) Bdw , i am talking about freecops and i know that we have Cadet and Officer applications here so noany whining about the subjects : ''we allready have it'' or ''its lame cuz i want to DM ppl '' .
Thank u for reading :)
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Stanley_Taylor has a point
... Yet he doesn't.
If it's a useless /su ( idiot, cat ), it's pretty big you get an unsuspect, and I agree on you that you should not be frisked in any way, since this is a really bad reason.
But if it's a /su that can be true ( killing someone, punching cop, yet you didnt ), then I think cops may frisk you since the cop that suspected you is sure you did something wrong, and the other cops need to be sure you don't have any weapons ( or drugs for that matter ). Your an innocent civilian, right? ;)
It does sound far if they only do it if they're sure though... But cops must be sure you dont wear any weapons (drugs) so yeah....
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This topic is about cops who /su a civilian for something he did not do. Meaning Non-RP, lieing, using /su to start DM, etc: breaking the server rules
Example: Two civilians are talking about the weather, a cop comes along and he /su them for dealing drugs.
There are a few things an abused player can do in this situation:
1. /gu, not report it to the admins, get a senior officer to the PD, possible get frisked.
2. /gu, report it to an admin who will either investigate himself or tell you to do the first possibility.
3. Evade.
This topic is not about the possibility a civilian did what he did in RP. It's about a PLAYER claiming ANOTHER PLAYER broke the server rules on him. If you don't understand the difference, don't freaking post here. When a player is cheating, should I call the cops or tell the admins? That's also breaking the server rules. Understand that? Mango and Tann3r were the only ones who understood what I was talking about. I don't care who you are, but if you post something off-topic, I will report you for spam.