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GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Gandalf on October 19, 2009, 06:48:48 pm
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We have had a number of requests from people who are wanting permission to run the new Emergency Light Mod.
The developers are not exactly happy with this mode, as there are a number of concerns.
1. The program used to run the mod has in the past been responsible for a number of bans regarding car mods/hacks.
2. As the mod syncs the flashing lights, effects on a full server regarding lagg are unsure.
3. People using the mod could try to get a RP advantage from it.
The fighters for the mod have brought the following forward:
1. Unless installed with other options, the mod does not change anything but visual effect.
2. in test lagg has not been noticed
3. it will not lead to abuse as advantage
As it has been something many player have looked forward to regarding the sync in SA:MP 0,3, and after giving it some thought, I have decided to allow it under strict conditions.
1. If any secondary effects are noticed that influence the handling, hp or vulnerability of the car, the player noticed will be instantly banned. Repeated bans will lead to a full and permanent disallowing of the mod.
2. If players are found to be lagging as a result of the mod being used, and this is a noticeable effect, the mod will be disallowed.
3. If any player using the mod will take the usage as the mod as proof he was asking to pullover, surrender or any other duty 'because you could see the lights flashing' he will be punished for mod/script abuse. If this happens repeatedly, the mod will be disallowed.
4. If we find that RP groups like FBI or ARPD are taking the mod in to their rules of procedures, there by forcing their members to install it, the mod will be banned instantly.
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yay, that's really cool ;)
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What if a person uses the mod to annoy the players? (Excessive usage of blinking lights in front of others etc. )
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What if a person uses the mod to annoy the players? (Excessive usage of blinking lights in front of others etc. )
direct kick by admins
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Nice to give this mod a chance. You made my day.
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Nice to give this mod a chance. You made my day.
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Thanks for giving us a chance to make this work Gandalf, and everyone else who had a place in this.
Also on a side note, if they don't have custom cars installed, all light mod will do is flash the headlights, so if they don't have car mods, then there won't really be an issue with lag at all if there was one.
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Thank you for this decision, and I apologize for the hassle it has caused. The rules you mention on its use pretty much cover what I was afraid off..
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nao please anyone explain me, how to install this mod :(
msn or pm.
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Thxs Gandalf
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nao please anyone explain me, how to install this mod :(
msn or pm.
Go to Google.
Search for: Cleo mod
- Take first link.
Find the link to the cleo INSTALLER.
Install etc, find 'emergency light mod' on YouTube.
I recommend you to use EML v7
Download it here; http://www.btinternet.com/~andrewmiles/CLEO/EmergencyMod.zip
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Go to Google.
Search for: Cleo mod
- Take first link.
Find the link to the cleo INSTALLER.
Install etc, find 'emergency light mod' on YouTube.
I recommend 5.5, but i just heard 7 was released
Don't use 5.5 only 7... Or you get banned
Post Merge: October 18, 2009, 11:30:56 pm
[yt=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzvw3ZPPCHk[/yt]
This is the only one you are allowd to use...
This is the download links http://www.btinternet.com/~andrewmiles/CLEO/EmergencyMod.zip (http://www.btinternet.com/~andrewmiles/CLEO/EmergencyMod.zip)
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Since this mod is open to anyone, it can be (and will be) used by civilians. Now, since FBI and UC cops can go undercover and may have valid reasons for pulling people over and using the lights, the same applies to civilians.
So what is the take on civilian use of light mods. We can say that they do not have power to pull over, but anyone can shout "Pullover - Police!!"...
My fear on this is we will have hundreds of fake cops! So perhaps I will advise that using light mod to pretend to be undercover cop/ FBI would not be allowed (punished by kick), since it can be abused (sort of).
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see rule nr 3 ;)
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We have /showbadge to show people we are cops... And Bufallo and FBI had Megaphone.. Civ don't
PS: Don't forget to use the 7.0 Version not the older onces! Only V7 was made for SAMP
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We have /showbadge to show people we are cops... And Bufallo and FBI had Megaphone.. Civ don't
PS: Don't forget to use the 7.0 Version not the older onces! Only V7 was made for SAMP
Just downloaded it
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I have a question: what if I don't use the mod, do I see it? (because in the video it says "now ppl in SAMP can see your flashing lights bla bla")
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i've installed mod, i can see flashing but others can't :trust:
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I have a question: what if I don't use the mod, do I see it? (because in the video it says "now ppl in SAMP can see your flashing lights bla bla")
Yes, these are better seen in night time.
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It made my game crash whole the time rly nice -_- Now i gotta re-install everything i suppose
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As it has been something many player have looked forward to regarding the sync in SA:MP 0,3, and after giving it some thought, I have decided to allow it under strict conditions.
1. If any secondary effects are noticed that influence the handling, hp or vulnerability of the car, the player noticed will be instantly banned. Repeated bans will lead to a full and permanent disallowing of the mod.
2. If players are found to be lagging as a result of the mod being used, and this is a noticeable effect, the mod will be disallowed.
3. If any player using the mod will take the usage as the mod as proof he was asking to pullover, surrender or any other duty 'because you could see the lights flashing' he will be punished for mod/script abuse. If this happens repeatedly, the mod will be disallowed.
4. If we find that RP groups like FBI or ARPD are taking the mod in to their rules of procedures, there by forcing their members to install it, the mod will be banned instantly.
I will be using the mod personally and when anything noticed i will report it.
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Question if some one Used that Ligts when they pull overed me and i dindt got it I see that ligths than???
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Thank you, SO much. And i have something else to propose. If a player complains about lag, we need that player and the player that made the lag into the same place with the normal traffic for tests. Because it might not be the mod at that time, maybe just the server lagging or the persons internet gonig up. Hopefully this will help. Anyway just want to say thanks again.
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Thank you very much Gandalf!
Since this mod is open to anyone, it can be (and will be) used by civilians. Now, since FBI and UC cops can go undercover and may have valid reasons for pulling people over and using the lights, the same applies to civilians.
So what is the take on civilian use of light mods. We can say that they do not have power to pull over, but anyone can shout "Pullover - Police!!"...
My fear on this is we will have hundreds of fake cops! So perhaps I will advise that using light mod to pretend to be undercover cop/ FBI would not be allowed (punished by kick), since it can be abused (sort of).
What about me? Im a real FBI Cadet, which im Unable to use FBI Marked cars.... As for that, I can Only use Unmarked FBI Cars... meaning of Civilian ones... Should I use this when I chase with my Vehicle? (Will buy an Sentinel later, as ALL FBI Cadets got one...)
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I've installed the mod and i can only see it, I have tested it on a few people and they cant see it. Also i can not see the menu either, anyone know the solution?
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is this mod easy to install? Or do i hav to script stuff and replace stuff in my scripts
can i just install it wit SAMI?
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The mod might needs to be pressed more than once.... make sure you extracted CLEO_TEXT folder ;) and it does not work if you enable it as passenger ;)
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lagg lagg lagg
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hm, i've got one problem (and not only me) my f11 menu does not work -.- how to fix that, anyone knows?
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yea....i fail at modding anyone want to tell me step by step in Argonath Chat or by MSN EXACTLY how to install this mod? im afraid that if i mess up or something im gonna get my ass banned
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hm, i've got one problem (and not only me) my f11 menu does not work -.- how to fix that, anyone knows?
Use the W and S keys I believe they are, and your horn button to select them.
Please note, others DO see this mod, but if they do not have modded cop cars with extra lights and you do, or vice versa, all the person without the modded cars will see is the headlights flashing.
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Dont use mods .
But tell me...
If i install it can i remove it easily like mods in SAMI ?
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What about me? I'm a real FBI Cadet
mmm :3. So am i :D. But if i really wanted to have lights id work really really hard and try to get access to the ranchers :D.
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If its easy to remove / install then I might consider, but then and again Gandalfs proposition of a ban doesn't sound as tempting as that of a possible "remove it quick like on SAMI function" either . :rockstar:
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all right as of this moment only thing im having trouble wit installing is Cleo Mod Installer V7
can anyone giv me the link?????? the steps gregerson gave are not helping alot
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all right as of this moment only thing im having trouble wit installing is Cleo Mod Installer V7
can anyone giv me the link?????? the steps gregerson gave are not helping alot
http://cleo.sannybuilder.com/ (http://cleo.sannybuilder.com/)
I can't say it enouf Only the V7 ELM.
We tested it with alote of cop cars. With a guy with a low end pc he says his pc don't lagg more so good news
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http://cleo.sannybuilder.com/ (http://cleo.sannybuilder.com/)
they only hav v3.0.950 and u said if we dont use V7 we get banned so.... is this actually V7?
heres the link i clicked on
http://cleo.sannybuilder.com/cleo3.exe
i clicked on the first link on the page
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they only hav v3.0.950 and u said if we dont use V7 we get banned so.... is this actually V7?
heres the link i clicked on
http://cleo.sannybuilder.com/cleo3.exe
i clicked on the first link on the page
Cleo 3 And emergency mod v7 arent same its a differant download
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Use the W and S keys I believe they are, and your horn button to select them.
Please note, others DO see this mod, but if they do not have modded cop cars with extra lights and you do, or vice versa, all the person without the modded cars will see is the headlights flashing.
works, thanks :)
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This is so cool. :)
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hm, i've got one problem (and not only me) my f11 menu does not work -.- how to fix that, anyone knows?
(http://www.movie-moron.com/wp-content/gallery/star-wars/SW-You-Fail.jpg)
You Completely Fail.
The Multiplayer Menu is NUMBERED, and you can use it by PRESSING "H" !!
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Guys how can i install it....? Its so coool
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Here to help players install it. http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=44120.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=44120.0)
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hey just a quick thing about the light mod..
if you turn them on with F12 then go out of you're vehicle leaving the lightmod on and then /enter a building you get around 10 errors
and crash so dont forget to turn them of when you want to enter a building ;)
i managed to capture 3 of these errors :roll:
(http://foto-uploaden.nl/img/0/vk6kqpz.png)
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Yeah im glad its addressed now.
i have never had it cuz i really could care less about it and idk if my comp. could handle it.
But yeah ok! :D
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hey just a quick thing about the light mod..
if you turn them on with F12 then go out of you're vehicle leaving the lightmod on and then /enter a building you get around 10 errors
and crash so dont forget to turn them of when you want to enter a building ;)
i managed to capture 3 of these errors :roll:
(http://foto-uploaden.nl/img/0/vk6kqpz.png)
ALSO:
If you left mod turned on when you exit vehicle, and someone jacked your car, You will get the same error crash message like above! :cop:
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simply just dont install this mod ans you got no problems i think this mod is lagging...
so i hope it will be not allowed
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Are Civilians allowed to use this mods on civilian cars?
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ALSO:
If you left mod turned on when you exit vehicle, and someone jacked your car, You will get the same error crash message like above! :cop:
Yeah im deleting the mod right now, the mod is the only thing that crashes me on 0.3a :(
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simply just dont install this mod ans you got no problems i think this mod is lagging...
so i hope it will be not allowed
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You think have you any proof? And if it laggs your pc we don't force you to install it.. But the flashing light can't lagg your pc because they don't do alote more then the normal lights on... Their is a differance between installing it on your pc and your pc can't handle it and it laggs. Or that you don't have it and your pc laggs. The 2 nd option isnt possible. Cuz the only thing it does is flashing your lights. And for people who crash we don't force you to install it. I never crashed. And i don't care if i crash 1once each hours. By teh way newer versions will fix that
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I have never crashed with it. Works perfectly for me
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It only crashes, when you install it wrong and on a non care away.
Follow my tutorial step for step, and you dont have ANY problem.
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=44125.0
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This mod looks stupid.
Anyone who uses this just looks dumb imo.
Makes the car look like it has circuit problems.
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This mod looks stupid.
Anyone who uses this just looks dumb imo.
Makes the car look like it has circuit problems.
No sir, you.
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The lights dont even blink evenly, Its just random flashes.
Looks terrible.
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3. If any player using the mod will take the usage as the mod as proof he was asking to pullover, surrender or any other duty 'because you could see the lights flashing' he will be punished for mod/script abuse. If this happens repeatedly, the mod will be disallowed.
i have been abused with this mod 2 times allready
Post Merge: October 21, 2009, 06:06:03 am
i realy hope this will get disabled
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The lights dont even blink evenly, Its just random flashes.
Looks terrible.
It's not terrible, and it's not just random flashes.
- If you have supported car mod with ELM 7, mod user will can see the red/blue/white evenly flashes light with style/like realistic/HQ light/Sound, etc.
- It's have 7 modes of flashing styles
- It's can be use in RP situation such as 2 ways flashes, headlight flashing, pulling over, emergency situation, etc.
In fact:
The flashing lights is not just FLASHING light, it is also some kind of "code", I don't know how to explain this
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i have been abused with this mod 2 times allready
Post Merge: October 20, 2009, 08:06:03 pm
i realy hope this will get disabled
Its not because a cop car use it.. An tell you to pull over that you are abused.. Some people are against this lmod and are moaning. At the moment we didnt had any problem on the server. And Gandalf didnt say it wasnt allowd to pull you over with the flashlights. You can't use it as a proof and to say its impossible that you didnt saw my pull over my lights where on.. thats all. If a cop Pull you over with flashing lights in a marked cop car and use the Megaphone you are not abused cuz this don't give you any advantage. Hurting your eyes? it isnt even powerfull. It arent flashbangs...
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I don't like it, I want to remove it how? or should I just delet "Cleo" folder from my GTA Path?
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i have been abused with this mod 2 times allready
Post Merge: October 21, 2009, 06:06:03 am
i realy hope this will get disabled
describe please? Police officer used lights as excuse?
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Tonight, I saw a "light mod" on a pickup truck on Broad St. after we got into the world series :lol:
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I don't like it, I want to remove it how? or should I just delet "Cleo" folder from my GTA Path?
Yes, delete it FROM your CLEO folder, no need to delete the whole folder
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Its not because a cop car use it.. An tell you to pull over that you are abused.. Some people are against this lmod and are moaning. At the moment we didnt had any problem on the server. And Gandalf didnt say it wasnt allowd to pull you over with the flashlights. You can't use it as a proof and to say its impossible that you didnt saw my pull over my lights where on.. thats all. If a cop Pull you over with flashing lights in a marked cop car and use the Megaphone you are not abused cuz this don't give you any advantage. Hurting your eyes? it isnt even powerfull. It arent flashbangs...
Just to clarify : If a cop uses ONLY the flash lights and then suspects the player for not stopping or evading, this is not allowed. IF he used the flashlights in combination wiht megaphone and a player refuse to pullover it is allowed to suspect.
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Just to clarify : If a cop uses ONLY the flash lights and then suspects the player for not stopping or evading, this is not allowed. IF he used the flashlights in combination wiht megaphone and a player refuse to pullover it is allowed to suspect.
Thanks to clairify. I tough the same just didnt find the right english for it..
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I want to bring this topic up as SOME administration people Don't know the rules about it. They gave false information about it and said that ONLY cops/Emergancy people with is on duty CAN USE IT. I blame half of the demands on Mr JayL as his wrongly acting as Administration and is also reported to [email protected]. I think the administration who ever is saying any false shall have knowledge about it first.
//Rico
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I want to bring this topic up as SOME administration people Don't know the rules about it. They gave false information about it and said that ONLY cops/Emergancy people with is on duty CAN USE IT. I blame half of the demands on Mr JayL as his wrongly acting as Administration and is also reported to [email protected]. I think the administration who ever is saying any false shall have knowledge about it first.
//Rico
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I understand you're upset about the confusion but he did not know. We all make mistakes and we're all human (well most of us) let it go man don't cry over spilt milk
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I understand you're upset about the confusion but he did not know. We all make mistakes and we're all human (well most of us) let it go man don't cry over spilt milk
Alright, he made my mood rise in evil since he kicked me. Anyway, it's okay now..
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I just come to say about civilians / cops speeding around in Civil cars with there lights on ... ( Speeding really fast as if its a code 3 - as if the lights mean anything )
Please clarify : So, civilians are allowed to use the lights?
and cops can only use them for added effect / but not to replace the original police lights?.
They are kinda annoying when people follow you with them on as-well >.<.
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IMO, any civilian that uses ELM while not police / medical / fire - Suspect for impersonating public services.
Seriously.. it looks plain weird seeing civilian people driving around with EMERGENCY lights on.
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I just come to say about civilians / cops speeding around in Civil cars with there lights on ... ( Speeding really fast as if its a code 3 - as if the lights mean anything )
Please clarify : So, civilians are allowed to use the lights?
and cops can only use them for added effect / but not to replace the original police lights?.
They are kinda annoying when people follow you with them on as-well >.<.
Yes, and yes. There is NO rule about civilians NOT being allowed to use them, read the first post! The reason these rules were made was so issues like this would NOT happen! Again, you are correct in the second point.
@ Chase - it would be cool but the lights aren't to conflict with rp that could possibly result in moaning :/
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This mod has NO lag. As for the above errors, they cannot be reproduced like that. It's something random that produces it. It has just as much of a chance at crashing you as SA:MP 0.2X did, if not less...
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Bump, there is confusion between administration.