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Title: Hitmen... whats the deal?
Post by: KriminalAer on June 20, 2007, 06:13:13 pm
Yeah so, having heard a bunch of things about hitmen recently i checked the rules on how they should work, not finding anything i asked around but it seems everyone has a different opinion on what's a 'hit' and what's just Dming.

[R*]Ron was online the other day and i believe he explained it but i didn't catch it exactly. I know there's rules on how to do it on MTA:VC but they're still a little unclear. I just thought it'd be nice to get a proper definitive explanation so if i want to be a hitman, i won't be labelled a DMer :lol:

I'll give an example of how i think it goes and if it's wrong, correct me!

                                                                                                                                               

Mr.A call's me (the hitman).

He says: I want to put a hit on Mr.B because <reason> (I screenshot this for proof)

If the reason is a legitimate one i say: Ok $10000 or whatever

He agrees, i go out, get some guns, kill Mr.B

Mr.B says: &*@%£$! You DMer!

I say: I'm a hitman, you had a hit on you.

I collect the money, take a screenshot of the transaction. Job done?

                                                                                                                                               

If the above is the correct procedure i have some questions. If the mark (post-death) asks me who put the hit on him do i tell him? What about someone who pays his friend $1 to kill someone? What about if the mark goes offline before i get to him? The hit stops? What about if the mark times out and comes back immediately? The hit stops?

Thanks for the info! :D
Title: Re: Hitmen... whats the deal?
Post by: Tice on June 20, 2007, 06:22:39 pm
This got me kicked yesterday because I didn't announce the hit, and it dosn't say anywhere in the rules that you have to announce the target - because otherwise it's classed as deathmatching somehow :/
Title: Re: Hitmen... whats the deal?
Post by: KriminalAer on June 20, 2007, 06:33:04 pm
This got me kicked yesterday because I didn't announce the hit, and it dosn't say anywhere in the rules that you have to announce the target - because otherwise it's classed as deathmatching somehow :/

Yeah i saw you get kicked, that's why i want to clear this stuff up so that no one gets kicked any more. Especially since admins do sometimes have varying views on things
Title: Re: Hitmen... whats the deal?
Post by: Rebel on June 20, 2007, 06:39:54 pm
First off, you should never have to announce your hit - that takes out the surprise effect. If the hit is announced, the person who was to be killed with barricade himself with guns or something, get some friends to back him up, and start a deathmatching festival right there on you - that's totally unfair, and if you take screenshots of the call during which you are hired to kill someone, you should never have to announce the hit. Admins should not be allowed to kick you if you were doing a legitament hit.

Furthermore, as for answering your questions, or at least the ones I think I know, you don't have to announce the employer's name - then that strikes either gang wars, death-matching, or just the equal repayment and a hit-man is sent to kill the person who sent you originally.

The deal with paying $1 to a friend to kill someone, while some may not view as fair, is totally legit, as long as it remains within the rules. You can't say have your gang leader hire each one of seven of his members for $1 to take out Target A or to go attack specific targets in a rival gang - that's death-matching and gang-wars and of course, is not allowed.

I've been hired to kill someone before, and the mark went offline just as I was suited up and ready to hunt him down. In this case, it depends on your employer. Mine stated that he would re-hire me for the same hit at the same price when the mark was next online - then you just take screens of the fresh deal and go on with your job.

If the hit times out, but comes back in - the hit is still legit. You were hired just recently to go after the mark, and as long as there hasn't been a twenty-four hour break or whatnot for sleep and the like from all parties, the hit should still be legit - don't, however, expect that if he times out and comes back, but you wait for several hours, that the hit will not get you in trouble for deathmatching as the screen shots you took of being hired would actually be somewhat out of date, and would be question for legitamacy.

Hope that helped.  :)

Title: Re: Hitmen... whats the deal?
Post by: Tice on June 20, 2007, 06:46:27 pm
You can't say have your gang leader hire each one of seven of his members for $1 to take out Target A or to go attack specific targets in a rival gang - that's death-matching and gang-wars and of course, is not allowed.

How is that deathmatching? If one gangmember attacks another gangmember, why does that automatically make it a attack fueled by the gang itself? My members work for me, so I would've thought I have a full right to give them a simple hitman job (well paid). I didn't make them kill the target because he was in another gang, but the target managed to bend it that way to get me kicked.
Title: Re: Hitmen... whats the deal?
Post by: Rebel on June 20, 2007, 06:51:55 pm
How is that deathmatching? If one gangmember attacks another gangmember, why does that automatically make it a attack fueled by the gang itself? My members work for me, so I would've thought I have a full right to give them a simple hitman job (well paid). I didn't make them kill the target because he was in another gang, but the target managed to bend it that way to get me kicked.

Your misunderstanding my statement. I meant gang leaders hiring seven members at once to attack another gang, basically saying, "Okay, members 1-7 are online, so I'm hiring you all for $1 to kill them all." is death-matching and by all technicality is gang wars.

Hiring one or two members to go after a single target just because you can, and not because you hate the gang and want to obliterate and death-match them is fine. Sending several people in to attack every member of the said gang that's online is not.
Title: Re: Hitmen... whats the deal?
Post by: Tice on June 20, 2007, 07:37:45 pm
Your misunderstanding my statement. I meant gang leaders hiring seven members at once to attack another gang, basically saying, "Okay, members 1-7 are online, so I'm hiring you all for $1 to kill them all." is death-matching and by all technicality is gang wars.

Hiring one or two members to go after a single target just because you can, and not because you hate the gang and want to obliterate and death-match them is fine. Sending several people in to attack every member of the said gang that's online is not.

Ah right, I see now. Yes, I agree, that is wrong.
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