Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Groups & Families => Clans, Groups & Families => Groups and Families Archive => Topic started by: Gandalf on January 02, 2010, 12:31:44 pm
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The past months a large number of law enforcement groups have risen, some groups are formed a long time ago and are (re-) activated.
We currently have requests from many groups for getting law enforcement rights, to enhance their RP.
After careful consideration, we have decided that at this time we will not grant any new groups law enforcement rights other than the possibility to cooperate with the already present law enforcement. We will study the role of groups for RS5, and if useful will grant groups script rights fitting their role and operation.
We do request the current law enforcement to support the groups, within the rules.
A law enforcement group that has no ARPD rights should not be regarded as 'unofficial', however should also not be allowed to evade basic rules.
If anyone has questions on how to handle regarding law enforcement groups outside ARPD, please pose them here. They will be answered by the developers.
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Nice topic CSI was asking if they could frisk and such
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We already had this confirmed by a Private message. (C.I.A Forum)
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Traser, this is more in-depth than the message we've saw. However, their are some things listed there not here.
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Well,
Argonath Army is treated like unofficial, but, latley we are treated like an army, that is good, I would wish that AA could get the rights, to be treated like an army, not a punch of civillians, that would be my first wish for Argonath Army.
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If any unofficial law group member with civilian rights but law uniform.. such as Argonath Army, kill someone and claim self defense, should they get unsuspected?
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If any unofficial law group member with civilian rights but law uniform.. such as Argonath Army, kill someone and claim self defense, should they get unsuspected?
no
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If anyone has questions on how to handle regarding law enforcement groups outside ARPD, please pose them here. They will be answered by the developers.
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Well,
Argonath Army is treated like unofficial, but, latley we are treated like an army, that is good, I would wish that AA could get the rights, to be treated like an army, not a punch of civillians, that would be my first wish for Argonath Army.
I can't see the use of an Army in Argonath. As far as I know, we are not at war with any other country? Police work is done by the police, if you want to be a cop, then be a cop, not a soldier. Soldiers are supposed to defend the country from threats outside the borders, but there are no threats outside the borders.
Why should you have any rights?
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Well,
Argonath Army is treated like unofficial, but, latley we are treated like an army, that is good, I would wish that AA could get the rights, to be treated like an army, not a punch of civillians, that would be my first wish for Argonath Army.
You kill people with no authority from the government, in my eyes you are merely just another criminal group.
That's like giving Corleone rights. :lol:
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Argonath Army brings Army roleplay to server, it's about roleplay, and new situations, improve roleplay make new ways.
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I understand that, but we don't really need an army with scripts tbh.
Unless terrorists are allowed. :roll:
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There are terrorists, there is even a group for terrorists, and we handle different things also, including kidnaps.
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There are terrorists, there is even a group for terrorists, and we handle different things also, including kidnaps.
SWAT, FBI, and the rest of ARPD are involved in kidnappings. WHy would we need another group for it?
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We don't need an army to handle kidnaps etc, we got cops that's returning x28 times anyway, so.
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Just to say, army have nothing to do with kidnappings. So if im working a kidanpping and an army guy comes up, he's going back the way he came.
I do of course support the army, whatever army this is as there seems to be so many i.e. MGI, AA, USMC?, being deployed for terrorist threats and such.
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Army should not respond to anything unless called upon.. Maybe only if police chief or other government officials declare whats called 'State of emergency'. If the situation is so big that all law enforcement, including FBI and SWAT can not handle it, then state of emergency can be declared and military will respond.
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Question: When does the RS5 come out ?
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Good thing I found this thread :>.
Informed me enough I need to know , atm I have an ID for a all new rp type, but not sure it will succeed because people will see it as "unofficial".
Although I dont agree with everything AA does, I still think they have a use - they are constantly in kidnappings/bank robberies something I don't like.. , but hey, its still good :drunk:
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If cop groups get scripted, you should give the good official mafia's scripts aswell.
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If cop groups get scripted, you should give the good official mafia's scripts aswell.
Like what exactly? /buyweapon and /gu....
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Like what exactly? /buyweapon and /gu....
hahaha :lol: :rofl:
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Gates, illegal gunshops (Like cops have /weaponequip), abillity to tie someone up in a car or something.
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If any unofficial law group member with civilian rights but law uniform.. such as Argonath Army, kill someone and claim self defense, should they get unsuspected?
If the Police Force calls in the Army (or any other group) to assist them, they can allow them clearing of offense. In such cases the Police Force should also fully cooperate by allowing the group members to break speed limits and escort them if asked for.
If the Army (or any other group) acts outside the knowledge and request of the Police Force, they are deemed to have made a criminal offense.
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If the Police Force calls in the Army (or any other group) to assist them, they can allow them clearing of offense. In such cases the Police Force should also fully cooperate by allowing the group members to break speed limits and escort them if asked for.
If the Army (or any other group) acts outside the knowledge and request of the Police Force, they are deemed to have made a criminal offense.
Is that only for people on the Police Force in higher authoirty. For example: can a freecop give the army rights to do this, or does it have to be SAPD officer+ or even higher then that?
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Nice topic CSI was asking if they could frisk and such
hey buddy we already can frisk we don't need to ask
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I can't see the use of an Army in Argonath. As far as I know, we are not at war with any other country? Police work is done by the police, if you want to be a cop, then be a cop, not a soldier. Soldiers are supposed to defend the country from threats outside the borders, but there are no threats outside the borders.
Why should you have any rights?
Well, the army should be called to the scene when like, there are alot of heavily armed criminals in lets say erm... the bank, if the cops cant handle it, they will eventually call the army, i only saw the army ONCE, somewhere at the star tower, and it looked awesome.
Its like in single player, when the cops cant handle CJ, they will bring the army.
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SWAT is more trained than the army - Anyone can join the army, but not SWAT
IMO the Army is just wannabe SWAT or something. (Yea, I know the army is fun, I was in Imperial Army once, and all the trainings and such were cool,but IMO its just not needed...)
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SWAT is more trained than the army - Anyone can join the army, but not SWAT
IMO the Army is just wannabe SWAT or something. (Yea, I know the army is fun, I was in Imperial Army once, and all the trainings and such were cool,but IMO its just not needed...)
Maybe in RL it is.
But this is Argonath, and in argonath there are differences between AA and the Swat
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SWAT is more trained than the army - Anyone can join the army, but not SWAT
IMO the Army is just wannabe SWAT or something. (Yea, I know the army is fun, I was in Imperial Army once, and all the trainings and such were cool,but IMO its just not needed...)
It's about the rp.
Gandalf, is it the cops duty to help? ...
every time i contact 911 for training, they never come ... It's impossible to train "legally" as the cops simply do not care.
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Stupid people closed my S.W.A.T
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Stupid people closed my S.W.A.T
They're not stupid.
S.W.A.T was originally created long before you even came here, and it is an official division. So obviously you can't make another one, it will be impostering groups. ;)
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I see no point of an Argonath Army unless a large enough terrorist group is formed. Then again national security would still handle any terrorist threat at least in the United States rarely is the Army ever called for anything within the borders. We are all trying to have some fun and create new Roleplay possiblties, so maybe if Alkmed or whatever would start up a good terrorist group a Army script would be needed.
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I see no point of an Argonath Army unless a large enough terrorist group is formed. Then again national security would still handle any terrorist threat at least in the United States rarely is the Army ever called for anything within the borders. We are all trying to have some fun and create new Roleplay possiblties, so maybe if Alkmed or whatever would start up a good terrorist group a Army script would be needed.
1. There are more armies, and the point of having atleast one is FUN and ROLEPLAY, Terrorist threats happen more often than you think too btw.
2. There exists a terrorist group, and some maffia's are seen as terrorists.
3. It doesn't matter that in the united states there isn't much of an army to be seen, it's about your fantasy, fun degree and about your roleplay ability. Irl the army operates in wars, but being in war at argo is not possible. So handling terroristic threats is what the United States Army of Argonath does.
4. It's Akhmed_Terror
5. Scripts are not needed for fun.
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1. There are more armies, and the point of having atleast one is FUN and ROLEPLAY, Terrorist threats happen more often than you think too btw.
2. There exists a terrorist group, and some maffia's are seen as terrorists.
3. It doesn't matter that in the united states there isn't much of an army to be seen, it's about your fantasy, fun degree and about your roleplay ability. Irl the army operates in wars, but being in war at argo is not possible. So handling terroristic threats is what the United States Army of Argonath does.
4. It's Akhmed_Terror
5. Scripts are not needed for fun.
It's clear from what I received today, that some ARSAPPD cadets think by being cadets they are superior then me and can refuse to co-operate.
Shameful.
Some ARSAPD and even admins(Moderator in this case) are not aware of this thread... It's really annoying and de-motivating for me, personally, to RP.
I am no longer going to care if a SAPD officer is corrupt. I don't see why I should have to go and make a thread so I can receive further absue on ARPD forum or harsh comments... I pmed an higher officer "Senior" who gave me "Go make a thread"...
Of-Course there are great officers who respect my rp. Just not all.
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I love your RP sir, most of it anyway.
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I love your RP sir, most of it anyway.
Thankyou, I dont know nothing about you :lol:
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It's clear from what I received today, that some ARSAPPD cadets think by being cadets they are superior then me and can refuse to co-operate.
Shameful.
Some ARSAPD and even admins(Moderator in this case) are not aware of this thread... It's really annoying and de-motivating for me, personally, to RP.
I am no longer going to care if a SAPD officer is corrupt. I don't see why I should have to go and make a thread so I can receive further absue on ARPD forum or harsh comments... I pmed an higher officer "Senior" who gave me "Go make a thread"...
Of-Course there are great officers who respect my rp. Just not all.
You placed a "warrent" for an arrest becouse you where refused help on your arrest/ serving a "warrent" on a citizen who was doing nothing. And you complain that you do not get "cooperation"? Any officer may refuse to follow an order etc.. if that order is aginst the law, arresting for no reason is corruption.
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You placed a "warrent" for an arrest becouse you where refused help on your arrest/ serving a "warrent" on a citizen who was doing nothing. And you complain that you do not get "cooperation"? Any officer may refuse to follow an order etc.. if that order is aginst the law, arresting for no reason is corruption.
No, I was after a corrupt officer, he was the one being corrupt, not me. :lol:
And also, this may not apply, but.
I issued a fine to a badly parked officer, who did not have a real ID (we rp'd it was fake) and he beat me up, ran off, returned, then called Matrix Bob to the scene, I was not aware he had come to help sort out the situation, so i fined him for $25.000, but he did not pay it, instead the whole day I was targeted with 3 cop bans, all unbanned. I did not use any command abuse to receive a copban, It's just, my family was kidnapped by a mob and I needed the cash.