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GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Driggz on January 04, 2010, 07:27:54 am

Title: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Driggz on January 04, 2010, 07:27:54 am
This topic is me explaining that we need a change in our community. I'm speaking of SA:MP only.
It started since June 2007 when I first stepped foot into Argonath. Money was SO easy to make (Please read as im not speaking out getting money easier). There were so many friendly people and so much role play involved and it was probably the best time that came. Now late 2008-2009; Wow, what a change. It has really changed in the sense of so many people fight and just go CRAZY about money. I've seen it all. Ive seen people literally FIGHT over money, lose friends over money, get banned for moaning, get taxed for "paydays". It just doesnt make sense. The money is corrupting people in Argonath. Realize, that Argonath RPG is made for you to make new friends, have fun, role-play, and overall have a blast. People dont realize what roleplay is anymore because of the money. Do you see that people pay like 4 million dollars for a car? Im not saying get rid of money or anything, just STOP thinking about money so much. I hear "omg i just lost 1000", "omg i missed a payday". Really guys?

Its stuff like this that makes people think theyre on top. EVERYone is equal. Doesnt matter how much money you have.
The only thing you need is imagination, pride, happiness, and /me.
Nothing else.
I did a test before. I placed an /ad saying "Im leaving Argonath, giving away 600k.
I got flooded by pm's. But not saying "Why..why". But "OMG GIVE IT TO ME, I NEED THE MONEY". Only my friends had enough heart to ask why I'm leaving.

So please Argonath SAMP, I'm asking you; please dont only think of money. Itl make more friends, less argument, less moaning, and more FUN.

And please leave arguments aside in this conversation and just follow what I am trying to say.

Signed,
Driggz
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Caltson on January 04, 2010, 10:25:42 am
I think you can discuss such matters on following topics, but please, I think there are enough of these now.

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=47920.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=47920.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48059.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48059.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=47622.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=47622.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48053.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48053.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=47984.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=47984.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48093.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48093.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48128.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48128.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48197.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48197.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48399.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48399.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48385.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48385.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48463.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48463.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48239.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48239.0)
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: R.Rivens on January 04, 2010, 11:58:31 am
What if I manage to get friends, have fun and get money?
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Fabio on January 04, 2010, 12:01:01 pm
What if I manage to get friends, have fun and get money?

Well thats not the problem, the thing Driggz is trying to say is people get too hyper over money, they lose 1k, they spam the main chat box...
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: CaptainCrazy on January 04, 2010, 12:34:54 pm
Yeah sure, money affects the roleplay alot.
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: WhiteStar on January 04, 2010, 12:38:12 pm
Yeah sure, money affects the roleplay alot.
That's how you see it.
Other people may think completely different.
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Kessu on January 04, 2010, 01:18:45 pm
Yeah sure, money affects the roleplay alot.
wRONg. Not at all. It's you who affect roleplay, not the money.
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: MisterSjeiks on January 04, 2010, 03:05:37 pm
Yep.
Someone should get rid of all the moaners.
I wish SAMP was like VC, where its FUN when there is a DM breakout, and have to work together and defend yourself.
Now in SAMP, a DM connects and the chatbox gets spammed by: DICKHEAD I LOST 100K AWMAGAWD BANBANBANBANBANBANBAN I DID REPORT A MILISECOND AGO AND ADMINS NO RESPOND TO LAZY AWMAGAWD!
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: JDC on January 04, 2010, 03:31:27 pm
I have to agree with Marouan about that. :lol:
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: CM Daniel on January 04, 2010, 05:11:41 pm
Jesus christ!

I did a test before. I placed an /ad saying "Im leaving Argonath, giving away 600k.
I got flooded by pm's. But not saying "Why..why". But "OMG GIVE IT TO ME, I NEED THE MONEY". Only my friends had enough heart to ask why I'm leaving.

What do you expect...? The same would happen a year ago, and the year before that one too.


Players have ALWAYS been after money, since day one of MTA:VC!!! Stop trying to paint an image of this server going to hell, because it isn't. The things you are describing has happened in the past with every server at every time just like now.

Depressed? Take some prozac!
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Pandalink on January 04, 2010, 05:13:36 pm
Intentions never changed, its just bloody hard to to make money in RS3/4.
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: killer_olari on January 04, 2010, 05:27:33 pm
Actualy, in argonath server i have never thinken about money cos if i do 1 wrong choice then i get banned or just cops will kill/jail and take that money away. So i have always thinken about fun cos i know that i always lose my money, so i escape from cops. And for now i think more to my job and getting unbanned then argonath money, this is just a gaming money, i can understund if it would be a real money. And i get the point of this what he wants to say.
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: BlankTheGod on January 04, 2010, 05:28:00 pm
..I still dont get why everyone is moanning about everyone wanting money only, no rping, were such a horrable RP server and sh*t.

I love our server, and I honestly think argonath is a great rollplay server, sure theres lots of people who are obsessed about money but so what. Theyll make 20M and by the time they do theyll quit. Nobody cares why they quit, theyre just happy they got some money off of em. So leave the richie rich players alone, I was one of those people before I left and came back to argonath a better person, and now I walk into a casino and bet every dollar I have just to see if I can doubble my money. If i loose, oh well, that just means imma go have to make some money again.

 THINK ABOUT IT: You dont NEED money to live on argonath. Its pretty damn fun to live as a criminal, and you dont need a dollar to do it. Youll be -50000$ but still, itll be fun?

Players like gandalfscat (Roman) and Emilio_Corleone. SURE there rich but they come out and share it to us with little minilottos, events, quizzes and stuff.

LEAVE IT ALONE, you dont want our server to be one of those rp servers where you go out make 50k selling guns to people who are gonna go DM cops, and then getting DM'ed yourself, getting raped to death injail, then having to wait 10 mins on a waiting screen to be "Healed" in the hospital, then find out you gotta pay that 50k for hospital fees.

NOANY MOANNING.
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Jubin on January 04, 2010, 06:25:01 pm
...
Jesus christ!

What do you expect...? The same would happen a year ago, and the year before that one too.


Players have ALWAYS been after money, since day one of MTA:VC!!! Stop trying to paint an image of this server going to hell, because it isn't. The things you are describing has happened in the past with every server at every time just like now.

Depressed? Take some prozac!

Well I have been meaning to make this topic for a long time now.
I have been in Argonath since August 2006, so quite a long  time and I have seen Argonath generations come and go. From these generations usually around 10 people stay put. And from these people's mouth I have heard one sentence a lot over these 3 years:
Back in.....
Let me show you what I mean.
October 2006 Argonath, first players started-
Back in August 2006 we truly roleplayed not hunt for money like now!
February 2007
Back in 2006 Argonath players truly roleplayed in MTA:VC and weren't money hungry like now
September 2007
When SAMP started players were better roleplayers than they are now. Back at then we roleplayed for fun not for money
March 2008
I remembred the 2007, back then we had better roleplaying groups and we weren't money hungry moaners
December 2008
I remember RS2 scripts, those were better days....
June 2009
I liked the 2008 more, then we didn't have so many moaners and freecops who would deathmatch

I even saw something like that in this years December. All I am trying to say to you people is, do not use that kind of thing as an argument, as Argonath have not gone worst with the years not SAMP nor any other server. But why does it feel such a way for some.... I let you figure it out yourselves.
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Driggz on January 04, 2010, 06:54:45 pm
Jesus christ!

What do you expect...? The same would happen a year ago, and the year before that one too.


Players have ALWAYS been after money, since day one of MTA:VC!!! Stop trying to paint an image of this server going to hell, because it isn't. The things you are describing has happened in the past with every server at every time just like now.

Depressed? Take some prozac!


I was just trying to explain something, no need to come out and attack me.......
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: CM Daniel on January 04, 2010, 07:46:18 pm
I was just trying to explain something, no need to come out and attack me.......

My apologies, it was not my intention to attack you. I was just... Well, I just saw quite a few topics in a row stating that players had become money hungry, and that we miss the old days so much. I got a little frustrated by the fact that there is no difference between the old days and the new days while everybody is saying there is. In the old days everybody was moaning just as much as now, though there were less topics like this.

And yes, Jubin. I already posted my vision on your topic. ;)
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: SugarD on January 04, 2010, 07:57:21 pm
I think you can discuss such matters on following topics, but please, I think there are enough of these now.

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=47920.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=47920.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48059.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48059.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=47622.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=47622.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48053.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48053.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=47984.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=47984.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48093.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48093.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48128.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48128.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48197.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48197.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48399.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48399.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48385.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48385.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48463.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48463.0)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48239.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=48239.0)
My question to the community is, if there are so many topics, why haven't things changed?
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Void on January 04, 2010, 08:01:09 pm
My question to the community is, if there are so many topics, why haven't things changed?

None really cares.....This topics are generalized in the term "moan",I think !
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Jubin on January 04, 2010, 10:21:27 pm

And yes, Jubin. I already posted my vision on your topic. ;)
I know, but the one in here is shorter and a bit shorter so, and I agree with you, so just to back you up, I added my observation post too. : )
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Matthew_Cipricla on January 04, 2010, 10:23:54 pm
WHo cares if people want money? Dont RP with them. Greed is natural for humans, so is the happiness of making money. We see it in IRL alot, except for here it is easier cause its a game.
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Stanley_Taylor on January 04, 2010, 10:42:14 pm
How about no money prizes, no lotteries, no paydays...would that help?  :lol:
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Jubin on January 04, 2010, 11:02:48 pm
How about no money prizes, no lotteries, no paydays...would that help?  :lol:
Yeah it would, if guns would be free. My opinion though.
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: TruthSvensson on January 04, 2010, 11:11:09 pm
Lol i don't even use money on my RPs.
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Driggz on January 04, 2010, 11:30:19 pm
Yeah it would, if guns would be free. My opinion though.

Guns are free in VC:MP and it is so much better. No moaning, when you die, you can grab them again. Armor is already set to cops when you go on duty. It makes RP more easier and gives more benefit
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Kessu on January 05, 2010, 12:55:09 am
VCMP will lose the free weapons, but still, I guess and hope, there won't be any moaning.. There is no moaning about DMers now, as they leave when they get owned so badly by requlars  :lol:
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Driggz on January 05, 2010, 02:00:59 am
VCMP will lose the free weapons, but still, I guess and hope, there won't be any moaning.. There is no moaning about DMers now, as they leave when they get owned so badly by requlars  :lol:

So so true.
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: SugarD on January 06, 2010, 08:36:52 pm
None really cares.....This topics are generalized in the term "moan",I think !
Good point...

VCMP will lose the free weapons, but still, I guess and hope, there won't be any moaning.. There is no moaning about DMers now, as they leave when they get owned so badly by regulars  :lol:
Why the hell do they even have free weapons now?
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Rusty on January 07, 2010, 06:41:18 am
Good point...
Why the hell do they even have free weapons now?

Cause Vice City is awsome of course  :)

Once we get updated weapons won't be free as the ammunations in the server config will be removed.  Cops won't get 100 armour they'll get only 50 when they equip it via the locker room but are limited to it's use (every 15min).

These topics aren't needed since we've had so many already just enjoy the server and have fun.
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: JDC on January 09, 2010, 12:16:09 am
Just to inject some humor, some things have NEVER changed from the "Old Days".

RS3, middle of 2008
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/Schitter_95/gayorgy2.png)

RS4, middle of 2009

(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/Schitter_95/SAMP%20Screenshots/RS4betaGS9orgy4.png)
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: CBFasi on January 09, 2010, 12:52:28 pm
There is a problem, but it wont be solved by scripts, its players.

To sort this problem needs the players to relax and have more fun, less thinking of just self but more of having fun with others.
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Leon. on February 05, 2011, 06:10:22 pm
Just to inject some humor, some things have NEVER changed from the "Old Days".

RS3, middle of 2008
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/Schitter_95/gayorgy2.png)

RS4, middle of 2009

(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/Schitter_95/SAMP%20Screenshots/RS4betaGS9orgy4.png)
Homosexuality?
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Frank_Hawk on February 05, 2011, 06:42:41 pm
Tupac - Changes (In Kazakhstan!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kdcbaiv2y4#ws)

Come on come on
I see no changes wake up in the morning and I ask myself
is life worth living should I blast myself?
I'm tired of bein' poor & even worse I'm black
my stomach hurts so I'm lookin' for a purse to snatch
Cops give a damn about a negro
pull the trigger kill a nigga he's a hero
Give the crack to the kids who the hell cares
one less hungry mouth on the welfare
First ship 'em dope & let 'em deal the brothers
give 'em guns step back watch 'em kill each other
It's time to fight back that's what Huey said
2 shots in the dark now Huey's dead
I got love for my brother but we can never go nowhere
unless we share with each other
We gotta start makin' changes
learn to see me as a brother instead of 2 distant strangers
and that's how it's supposed to be
How can the Devil take a brother if he's close to me?
I'd love to go back to when we played as kids
but things changed, and that's the way it is

I see no changes all I see is racist faces
misplaced hate makes disgrace to races
We under I wonder what it takes to make this
one better place, let's erase the wasted
Take the evil out the people they'll be acting right
'cause both black and white is smokin' crack tonight
and only time we chill is when we kill each other
it takes skill to be real, time to heal each other
And although it seems heaven sent
We ain't ready, to see a black President, uhh
It ain't a secret don't conceal the fact
the penitentiary's packed, and it's filled with blacks
But some things will never change
try to show another way but you stayin' in the dope game
Now tell me what's a mother to do
bein' real don't appeal to the brother in you
You gotta operate the easy way
"I made a G today" But you made it in a sleazy way
sellin' crack to the kid. " I gotta get paid,"
Well hey, well that's the way it is

We gotta make a change...
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive.

And still I see no changes can't a brother get a little peace
It's war on the streets & the war in the Middle East
Instead of war on poverty they got a war on drugs
so the police can bother me
And I ain't never did a crime I ain't have to do
But now I'm back with the facts givin' it back to you
Don't let 'em jack you up, back you up,
crack you up and pimp smack you up
You gotta learn to hold ya own
they get jealous when they see ya with ya mobile phone
But tell the cops they can't touch this
I don't trust this when they try to rush I bust this
That's the sound of my tool you say it ain't cool
my mama didn't raise no fool
And as long as I stay black I gotta stay strapped
& I never get to lay back
'Cause I always got to worry 'bout the pay backs
some punk that I roughed up way back
comin' back after all these years
rat-tat-tat-tat-tat that's the way it is uhh

Some things will never change

Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Shockk on February 05, 2011, 06:46:22 pm
Tupac - Changes (In Kazakhstan!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kdcbaiv2y4#ws)
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=12616 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=12616)
:war:
-

Sorry for the off-topic, I'll shut up now.  :D
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: EminemRulez on February 06, 2011, 12:47:53 am
It's all so beautiful when written...
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Squeak on February 06, 2011, 12:51:48 am
I blame this new generation, they all watched shitty cartoons.
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: EminemRulez on February 06, 2011, 01:16:06 am
I blame this new generation, they all watched shitty cartoons.
I blame the mexicans...
Title: Re: Hoping for a change in the community.
Post by: Driggz on February 07, 2011, 12:17:32 am
Man this topic is like a year old....
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