Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:VC => VC:MP - Vice City Multiplayer => VC:MP General => Topic started by: Fabio on January 07, 2010, 01:33:54 pm
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Hello guys, I've decided to write this topic to appeal to those who complain about the player amount that we have on the ArgonathRPG VC:MP server.
Firstly, I would like to say the Vice City map is very different compared to the San Andreas map, it is obviously smaller, also the VC:MP isn't capable as yet of doing something similar to what the SA:MP client can do.
So lets say you are intrested in playing on the VC:MP server, but then you open the VC:MP client and you only see 0-3 players on Argonath, then you think to yourself the server is always like this?
You should not think this, just like the MTA:VC, and MTA:SA servers, the VC:MP server is active at different times of the day, and generally is not always empty, however there may be a certain point of the time in a day where you check and you see no players. Don't be discouraged by this as like I said, its just a point of the day, don't think it will be like this all day.
If your thinking, how can I make the VC:MP server active or start some activity?
Well if one person joins the server, and another spots they might join the server and that cycle will go on and on until a decent amount of players are on, this has happend many times of me trying this and is a very efficent method.
So now you maybe thinking why is 10-15 players a good amount for VC:MP?
Well, VC:MP is a very different client and map to SA:MP, it can do less things that SA:MP can, the whole system of RP works differently, you can spawn to change skin rather then things like buying clothes at shops or /duty, however this might be implemented to VC:MP because of the R2 release of 0.3, but this will take time for the scripters to work out how to do if its possible.
And finally, you might be saying, well if VC:MP and SA:MP is so different Fabio, why do you always complain about SA:MP players being money/power greedy?
Well, dosen't matter how the SA:MP and VC:MP client are so different, the player is the one who does something to effect the server, not the client, the player should take responsibility of what they are doing, shouldn't only be bothered about money and power, and should be enjoying themselfs in other methods that don't cause trouble on the server.
If your wondering about things like VCPD, FBI, races, DD's, and stuff, these things are also done on VC:MP.
Intrested in learning more about VC:MP?
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=32855.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=32855.0)
Thank you for taking your time to read this and I hope you will enjoy playing on the ArgonathRPG VC:MP server. ;)
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IMO it's enough to explain the Difference,really good ;)
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jolly good ;)
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For the past week or so the server has not been on the internet tab. Just if your wondering about the low numbers of new players.
We will fix this with the new scripts
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I never use the Internet tab :P
Good topic anyways, really usefull, if someone wants to check out VCMP..
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VCMP was my first Argonath server and when I get chance I play as I do run a gang on VCMP. :hurray:
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Get rid of Klaus, let another person lead to VC:MP community, then VCMP Argonath will look better and get more attention. I've personally talked at least 50 percent of server regulars, all agreed with me. They just can't say it because who they're against is the community leader.
Sorry it seems a bit off topic but couldn't find a better place to say. At least it might bring back some good roleplayers who left the server/moved to SA:MP because of such cases, so it would get more players in game. Seriously i think its one of the biggest problems of VCMP community.
Althought i'm sure this post will get removed/edited by one of Klaucer admins and i'll be forwarded to [email protected], i wanted to post it.
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I've personally talked at least 50 percent of server regulars, all agreed with me. They just can't say it because who they're against is the community leader.
Don't matter who it is, action will be taken if decent evidence is shown. Something that never is for me.. coincidence? I think not
At least it might bring back some good roleplayers who left the server/moved to SA:MP because of such cases, so it would get more players in game.
Orly? Because I can only think of about 3 players 'in such cases'. If your any good in maths, you'll notice this is quite far off %50.
And if we lose players like you to SAMP. That's a gain, not a loss.
Get rid of Klaus, let another person lead to VC:MP community, then VCMP Argonath will look better and get more attention.
Oh yeah, that will make things all sweet. Not.
Seriously i think its one of the biggest problems of VCMP community.
Which shows how you know absolutely nothing.
i wanted to post it.
Well done attention seeker, you succeeded
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I like Klaus. :(
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I like Klaus. :(
But he has long hair and likes Scorpions :(
Nice topic Fabio btw.
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Except that Klaus is the founder of an extraordinary group, he is a fairly-minded, clever, decisive and active person. He can be simultaneously funny and serious, but his best characteristic is pacific settlement of disputes. Klaus helped Argonath the most to become more popular and increased the number of visitors with the activity of players covered by EAF.
From my opinion nobody including me can reach his level of wisdom, so there's no need to "get rid of him".
So the best way to secure the future marbling of Argonath VCMP is to change nothing.
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Yea better remove my post
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Nice topic Fabio btw.
Thanks. :D
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Klaus is a very active player in the server.
A Leader who actually plays ingame knows what is right and wrong better than anyone else.
I think he is the best man for the job :thumbsup:
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Klaus may be a really patient and good Admin,but sometimes i seriously feel,that you create own Rules.I do not want to offend you,just to alert.And as i have also opinions,i think there should be players with long experience asked about what they feel of special things,admins,what do i know.That would also show a bit more directness by leaders against Players.
Oh and denlow,that was a bit charmed to him,ease it up :lol There are always changes :>
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Hey, I think klaus is a great vcmp leader, so stop that.
If there r that much players that think that klaus shouldn't be the leader, say it, dont hide..
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Dear Black eagle,
For the pass 2-3 years i was here Klaus have been faithful to me and to everyone here.I could remember the first time i came here Klaus showed me the things i had to learn and we RP together.He had help many players.And those players became 1337 r0player, Some even became Admins. So I asked you why get rid of Klaus once more time...
Sorry for offtopic
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why may i ask
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See Blackeagle ruined this topic with his epic fail post to get rid of Klaus
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Sorry,none of your business.
Funny that, because you have no reasons.
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i have reasons
What are you waiting for? Name them then..
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Okay lets ask you Emre. What would YOU change if you were leader?
Probably nothing? Reason: You think VC:MP needs to be more like SA:MP, Wrong. VC:MP is fine how it is, Klaus is a great leader.
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If there r that much players that think that klaus shouldn't be the leader, say it, dont hide..
Exactly. But with the topic already, I can see most support me. That is why I am where I am.
Thanks all for the supportive comments, much appreciated. It just seems Blackeagle and Emre (with their imaginary many others) have some personal issues.
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If you don't like someone, why not let us all know WHAT is the reason of it?
Too scared of being hated for the reasons?
Afraid of ban? I guess so, but it is very unlikely and not allowed to ban for personal reasons..
If you don't like, leave, or do something about it, not just whine in public topic..
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If you don't like someone, why not let us all know WHAT is the reason of it?
Too scared of being hated for the reasons?
Afraid of ban? I guess so, but it is very unlikely and not allowed to ban for personal reasons..
If you don't like, leave, or do something about it, not just whine in public topic..
Real stuff.
The dont have the Balls. They say "Wow you need to get out of here you suck" Stuff like that, and you dont have a reason. You hate someone; you just hate them, and you have no reason, yuo just have personall problems with them
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If you don't like Klaus it's your own opinion but please don't bring the Bullshit here do it somewhere else. VC:MP might not be as superior as it is to SA:MP and I can see why people prefer SA:MP due to the size of map, x10 more players online etc. If you have left VC:MP don't come back shitting on the other VC players.
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Okay lets ask you Emre. What would YOU change if you were leader?
Probably nothing? Reason: You think VC:MP needs to be more like SA:MP, Wrong. VC:MP is fine how it is, Klaus is a great leader.
Who said that i want to be leader?
Exactly. But with the topic already, I can see most support me. That is why I am where I am.
Thanks all for the supportive comments, much appreciated. It just seems Blackeagle and Emre (with their imaginary many others) have some personal issues.
So you feel yourself like the king with the VC Crown or what?You feel yourself great with your new-rules-creating?How weak you think we are?Atleast not much than you,how it shows.
If you don't like someone, why not let us all know WHAT is the reason of it?
Too scared of being hated for the reasons?
Afraid of ban? I guess so, but it is very unlikely and not allowed to ban for personal reasons..
If you don't like, leave, or do something about it, not just whine in public topic..
I don't need to whine or leave because of a person who thinks he is perfect.And i am not Afraid of anything,that just makes it better.
Real stuff.
The dont have the Balls. They say "Wow you need to get out of here you suck" Stuff like that, and you dont have a reason. You hate someone; you just hate them, and you have no reason, yuo just have personall problems with them
Excuse me?Not having balls?!What about you?You sue kids just because of having Drugs -_-
Gosh i am tired,if you need reasons read them below:
-Wrong Use of the Hunter and its Rules
-Wrong Use of Drive-By and then Creating New rules to show himself Clean
-Disrespecting and Flaming Groups
-Creating own Rules
Just a Few
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Right, can we get back on topic please?
The aim of the topic is to show those who try out VC:MP from SA:MP why the player amount is different and how it can improved.
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-Wrong Use of the Hunter and its Rules
-Wrong Use of Drive-By and then Creating New rules to show himself Clean
-Disrespecting and Flaming Groups
-Creating own Rules
-Since when Klaus is using Hunter?
-Drive-by allowed only vehicle vs. vehicle, you can DB from bike to forward too..
-When?
-How?
I think Klaus is not feeling like "a king" when leader... It's just a normal reqular point of view, that all admins suck and are bad, because you are not...
Yes, you are afraid of something, it can be seen from your posts..
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And you think i'm so childish
It pretty much looks it. It's hard to find much logic in your posts.
So you feel yourself like the king with the VC Crown or what?
Get over it, I am a developer of Argonath, and the VCMP manager. For reasons you have no idea about. I create rules? Oh please stop talking crap. You are the one thinking he can create his own rules - moaning to admins thinking you can be uncrimed for self defense. Oh, and then lets not forget your moan to admins "he didn't change the weather when i asked! omg omg !" Please, go get a life..
I don't need to whine.
Then please, save us the time and stop crying with your posts full of BS
You sue kids just because of having Drugs -_-
In-irrelevant. And what makes Dani a "kid"? At the moment, he shows more intellect than yourself.
Gosh i am tired,if you need reasons read them below:
-Wrong Use of the Hunter and its Rules
-Wrong Use of Drive-By and then Creating New rules to show himself Clean
-Disrespecting and Flaming Groups
More lies..
What makes you think you know the rules better than me? You haven't even played here that long.. you were too busy playing at NoN (Argonath copy server) with twits such as Xeonon. Who, oh yeah, starting bullshitting on Solidje for the same reasons your bullshitting on me now. Coincidence?
The Hunter? Wtf are you talking about, as you are "tired" it seems to be effecting your brain cells.
LMAO since when DB is forward allowed?
Drive by? I hate to sound like a broken record, because I must of said this 100 times already - Forward Drive by on bikes against players is not allowed. Kessu is correct on his statement. All DB vehicle vs. vehicle is allowed. Just shows how little you, yourself know about the rules.
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Get rid of Klaus, let another person lead to VC:MP community, then VCMP Argonath will look better and get more attention.
So i can claim : Get rid of Gandalf, let another person lead Argonath, then Argonath will look better and get more attention.
I think you understand how stupid what i just said sounds, same applies for what u said.
I've personally talked at least 50 percent of server regulars, all agreed with me.
Well you didnt talk to me, in fact i never see u in VCMP
At least it might bring back some good roleplayers who left the server/moved to SA:MP because of such cases, so it would get more players in game.
They went from wonderland to wackoland imo. Btw, i once left Argonath...... i came back cause of klaus
Althought i'm sure this post will get removed/edited by one of Klaucer admins
Klaus, doesnt have a big shit admin army that fucks you up, he is exactly the oposite. Gosh i am tired,if you need reasons read them below:
-Wrong Use of the Hunter and its Rules
-Wrong Use of Drive-By and then Creating New rules to show himself Clean
-Disrespecting and Flaming Groups
-Creating own Rules
Using hunter? That's more like JayL
Wrong use of DB and creating new rules to....wait w00t? srsly...
Flaming groups? AFAIK he called alot of stuff to TAC, i never saw it as flaming, i took that as.... reducing my morale, but never took it as insult
Again with creating own rules srsly... he does NOT create rules, and if he does, i would like you to name the rules he created so far
So srsly stop the fucking bullshit agaisnt klaus, he is one of akind and no shit is going to destroy him
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Emre, Im not even going to Quote it. I dont sue people because of drugs. Im sueing him because he did not give them up when I confiscated them. Next time please read the case carefully
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I say stop the Flaming Crap and Hate against Klaus, he is a good leader. And while I'm back posting, lets get back to the main topic at hand and stop the Hate. It's li,ke my Religion Teacher says: "Increase the Peace". We all play on Argonath and were all alike, there fore were like a family, so lets all get along, before our be loved Admins get pissed with us.
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Using hunter? That's more like JayL
What the hell you mean with ''thats more like JayL''? Are you telling that the Command Staff abuses the Hunter to get criminals easier? If that's your point by that post,get the facts straight please. We only use the Hunter following the server rules,and sometimes VCPD Officers uses the Hunter but only to follow criminals. On the rules it says we cant shoot suspects onfoot/in a car with the Hunter,but we just use the Hunter to follow them. There is no problem with this.
You sue kids just because of having Drugs -_-
To your information,its illegal to grow,use and have drugs. Its not ''childish'' to sue persons for Drug Dealing. Next time think before posting crap about ARPD/VCPD.
Sorry for the offtopic replies.
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OK in the Driggz thing i didnt notice,i have to apologize but:
Klaus,i won't quote your -seriously-S**T because you refuse to face everything you did,and you know it.And it seems like you think the ones who can not like you,are just worthless.Getting a life,you think i am addicted to something?No thanks,you disturb fun.And What Xeon that little kid did to Solidje is completely diffrent,why the damn hell you compare this?And i know that DB on cars vs. cars are allowed,some other Persons can prove it.And do whatever you want to but this sentence is the last one for you,being a leader.I talk in honor of many people hating you : You are the worst leader of the VC:MP Section,you may be a great level 2 admin,but thats the past,You have a attitude of a Failure and you are a Failure.You should watch yourself in the upcoming time and you will repent what things you called me.I simply Hate you.I Don't care if you are my Boss in EAF,you are just wrong.
Back to Topic.
Wow.
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Hey, don't even think about dissing EAF you pansy.
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actually from my personal experience i dont like klaus really much : /
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What the hell you mean with ''thats more like JayL''? Are you telling that the Command Staff abuses the Hunter to get criminals easier? If that's your point by that post,get the facts straight please. We only use the Hunter following the server rules,and sometimes VCPD Officers uses the Hunter but only to follow criminals. On the rules it says we cant shoot suspects onfoot/in a car with the Hunter,but we just use the Hunter to follow them. There is no problem with this.
Sir, you get the facts straight, i said "Using hunter" did i say "Using hunter to kill suspects on foot/car?"
Are you telling that the Command Staff abuses the Hunter to get criminals easier?
Excuse me? Emre just said that klaus abused it, and klaus is lvl 5 and srsly winz over JayL, so why did u come defend JayL like a shinny knight and didnt comment what Emre said about klaus using hunter? I didnt see u saying "Are you telling that the VCMP Manager abuses the hunter to get criminals easier?" over emre
Emre
I wont quote ur srs sh*t
We are droping down to a degrative level, where our will is speaking louder then our brainz
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Guys, final time, just enough, MSN is there to discuss this...
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Guys, final time, just enough, MSN is there to discuss this...
Sure i wont mind to have a group talk to clear this up
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Okay then lets get on msn in a couple hours. Add me guys [email protected]
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Emre just said that klaus abused it,
I am not replying to that because another persons already replied with what i was exactly going to reply.
and klaus is lvl 5 and srsly winz over JayL
A admin level dont means that you are better than somebody.
so why did u come defend JayL like a shinny knight and didnt comment what Emre said about klaus using hunter?
I already told why i did not replied to Emre's post.
I didnt see u saying "Are you telling that the VCMP Manager abuses the hunter to get criminals easier?" over emre
Even if i had replied to Emre's post that would not be my reply. Klaus mainly plays as criminal and i never saw him using a Hunter,so,why i would argue about Hunter usuage from Klaus? I just replied to your post because it really seemed provoking the way you said ''thats more like JayL''.
Sorry again for the off-topic,but it just cant be taken to MSN because rarely we all are online at the same time,we really should clear this up.
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I thought this was cleared up last month...
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I thought this was cleared up last month...
Not only admins meeting can solve every problem, sometimes requlars have something up their minds...
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erm...if the leader doesnt create rules, who gonna create them?
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erm...if the leader doesnt create rules, who gonna create them?
Emre meant creating for personal advantage, which I have never seen by any Admin on server...
Also how can you tell me I am not on server.. Because you don't see me there?
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To all that crappers against Klaus...
I will faster remove you from server, then him...
If I will hear here again some bullshit "there are reasons, I will not name it" or "Klaus is a shitty server leader, I will not say why", or "Klaus is making his own rules I dunno which" - the first with the empty accusations will be punished on forums...
If continue - banned...
Its much easy to shit those who are in charge and responsible... Cos shitters themselves are not responsible for anything...
And the time showed - those players who spread a shit - are full of shit themselves...
From this my post - drop down the thread about bad boy Klaus and continue the original thread...
I will not tolerate any kind of bullshit against those, who are standing with Argonath for years and proved that they deserved a respect...
That's my last word...
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I can't believe it.. The SA:MP virus has spread to VC:MP.. :bye:
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Gee guys what has happened to you guys? I remember back when everything was normal and everyone was RPing happily. What happened to that? There are other ways to sold your issues than this..
Kudos to Fabio for trying to open peoples eyes to VC:MP, I admire his dedication.
For the record
I like Klaus
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Yeah enough of it already.
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Topic name changed, if anyone has anything I can add to the first post post it here. ;)
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To all that crappers against Klaus...
I will faster remove you from server, then him...
If I will hear here again some bullshit "there are reasons, I will not name it" or "Klaus is a shitty server leader, I will not say why", or "Klaus is making his own rules I dunno which" - the first with the empty accusations will be punished on forums...
If continue - banned...
Its much easy to shit those who are in charge and responsible... Cos shitters themselves are not responsible for anything...
And the time showed - those players who spread a shit - are full of shit themselves...
From this my post - drop down the thread about bad boy Klaus and continue the original thread...
I will not tolerate any kind of bullshit against those, who are standing with Argonath for years and proved that they deserved a respect...
That's my last word...
Im not saying nothing bad about Aragron but I can't understand what he posted I get what it means just don't understand because of the sentences hardly have any subject verb agreement.
Next note
Why are you guys so scared to say you don't like klaus and say the reasons
I told Rusty on SAMP I don't like him because on SAMP he acts like a b***h but I respect him
I just like VCMP Rusty
You don't have to like someone just respect them
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Im not saying nothing bad about Aragron but I can't understand what he posted I get what it means just don't understand because of the sentences hardly have any subject verb agreement.
Next note
Why are you guys so scared to say you don't like klaus and say the reasons
I told Rusty on SAMP I don't like him because on SAMP he acts like a b***h but I respect him
I just like VCMP Rusty
You don't have to like someone just respect them
Hey, don't start no shi* again, I'm not blaming you but that ended a long time ago already..
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Im not saying nothing bad about Aragron but I can't understand what he posted I get what it means just don't understand because of the sentences hardly have any subject verb agreement.
Next note
Why are you guys so scared to say you don't like klaus and say the reasons
I told Rusty on SAMP I don't like him because on SAMP he acts like a b***h but I respect him
I just like VCMP Rusty
You don't have to like someone just respect them
Read before you post...
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Oh god,we could start this arguement somewhere else but Read the goddamn topic name and the work,which Fabio did!
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Read before you post...
I did
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Lets hope the server will be fully back soon, with stable scripts and stuff :>
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I did
Then why did you post?
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He probably has readed about the Argueing so he thought its still going on.
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Then why did you post?
You guys never post if something is over or if its still going
He probably has readed about the Argueing so he thought its still going on.
That should be
"He probably has read about the Arguing so he thought its still going on."
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Aldo read again what was wrote above, talk about that subject in this topic is over, the reason I posted is to get back to the topic that I posted about.
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To be completely honest, I like the VC:MP server better than any other one (though I didin't try the MTA:VC server).