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Title: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: Nexxt on January 29, 2010, 10:57:15 am
Recently I've seen a lot confusion by players and several admins about the fact civilians can get shotguns from PD cars.

What is the actual rule for this?

1. It's abuse and therefor can be punished by a ban.
2. It's a crime and therefor can be punished by /su.

I'd like one of the community leaders to clear this up towards the public, as I've seen a lot of confusion.

Thanks already for looking into this matter.
Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: Mafs on January 29, 2010, 11:39:05 am
In my opinion it should be treated as a crime. Since you are stealing police equipment, it's not like you gain a super advantage over others, right? :)
Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: Daco on January 29, 2010, 12:29:05 pm
It's considered as a banable script abuse, the last time I checked.
Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: Eric Wright on January 29, 2010, 12:36:15 pm
Pancher just said 2 days ago that it isnt script abuse
Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: supermanmk on January 29, 2010, 01:01:48 pm
Pancher just said 2 days ago that it isnt script abuse

Cool les STEAL SHOTGUNS AHAHHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: Leonardo on January 29, 2010, 01:07:28 pm
Taking Shotguns from PD cars cant be classified as script abuse in my opinion. Why? Thats not a function from RS4 scripts,and yes from the whole game,the game was crated with this function,and if you enter in a police car you'll get 5 shells of Shotgun,so i think this should be classified as a suspectable crime.
Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: Jingle on January 29, 2010, 01:09:29 pm
Taking Shotguns from PD cars cant be classified as script abuse in my opinion. Why? Thats not a function from RS4 scripts,and yes from the whole game,the game was crated with this function,and if you enter in a police car you'll get 5 shells of Shotgun,so i think this should be classified as a suspectable crime.

Agreed.
Since it was added to the game itself, it is part of GTA, and can be a valid reason for getting suspected.
Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: bockman51 on January 29, 2010, 01:13:08 pm
I ain't doing it anyway, so...
Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: supermanmk on January 29, 2010, 01:14:55 pm
I ain't doing it anyway, so...

... You are missing the fun
Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: bockman51 on January 29, 2010, 01:16:54 pm
Iz it fun?
Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: Joey_DeRossi on January 29, 2010, 02:03:28 pm
If you enter a police car, it's more than likely to find a weapon inside (being, in this case, shotguns).
I don't think it should be bannable, but, instead, suspectable.
Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: Tovenaarke on January 29, 2010, 02:23:17 pm
For me it is scriptabuse... but I would hear an main admin about it...

The reasons it IS scriptabuse:
- You shouldn't get guns from 'nowhere'
- It is a BUG from SA, so abuseing it is not good!

I'm not punishing players who has it, but I warn then by telling it (by PM). So don't take it, unless a main admin tells you here and now it is allowed

(Just ignore this reaction lol)
Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: rJCaiG on January 29, 2010, 03:21:49 pm
People have been 'Five finger shopping' since 0.1b...It is punishable by /su and not be server rules..
Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: Leonardo on January 29, 2010, 03:53:29 pm

- It is a BUG from SA

Actually its not a bug,its a function that was implemented in the game by the Rockstar Games.
Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: Proxan on January 29, 2010, 03:54:28 pm
So is it script abuse or stealing weaponary from the government?
Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: EminemRulez on January 29, 2010, 04:45:00 pm
If you enter a police car, it's more than likely to find a weapon inside (being, in this case, shotguns).
I don't think it should be bannable, but, instead, suspectable.

This...
Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: Pandalink on January 29, 2010, 05:06:29 pm
There is no official rule on it, the admin can create whichever rule they wish.

It is however clearly not bannable.

Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: Gandalf on January 29, 2010, 05:11:32 pm
It is abuse of a glitch that SA:MP did not block in their programming.

How it is handled is depending on the people present and the situation.

If no admins notice but a police officer does, a suspect for stealing government property is allowed.
If admins notice they can : warn, kick, or ban based on the player and how he reacts.
My first action in such cases is to disarm, if the player lose other weapons he bought because of it he will think twoce before stealing again...
Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: Pandalink on January 29, 2010, 05:14:34 pm
It is abuse of a glitch that SA:MP did not block in their programming.

But it isn't a glitch.

It isn't anywhere under the rules.
Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: Gandalf on January 29, 2010, 05:34:28 pm
But it isn't a glitch.

It isn't anywhere under the rules.
It is a glitsh, equal to the money which you can pick up in interiors or the $12 from entering a taxi. All these are remainders of the single player game that are not deactivated in SA:MP, and there for can be called glitches.

Abusing glitches is in the main rules of Argonath.
Title: Re: [RULE to be cleared up] Shotguns from PD cars
Post by: Roman on January 29, 2010, 05:37:38 pm
It is a glitsh, equal to the money which you can pick up in interiors or the $12 from entering a taxi. All these are remainders of the single player game that are not deactivated in SA:MP, and there for can be called glitches.

Abusing glitches is in the main rules of Argonath.


Taking a gun from a cop cars should lead to ban. People can Roleplay, like:

/me trying to get into a cop car
/me crashes the cop car window
/me opens the door
/me steals the shotgun weapons
/me gets away
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I think it just must lead to /su, but not to a ban.
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