Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: rJCaiG on February 22, 2010, 08:47:52 am
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Why are people getting PUNISHED for this? Punishing people for this roleplay is the most bullshit policy I have EVER seen enforced...It is NOT the admins' job to stop people playing a part of the game...Shotguns are given from cop cars in singleplayer ever...It's the cops' job to make sure people are not stealing guns from their cars...People have been RPing stealing the shotguns since 0.1b, and the policy has always been that cops take care of them..why are some guys deciding to change this policy now? It's not a special script on Argonath, we can't control it (Well, I suppose we could if we wanted to.) and it's pathetic that some guys are getting banned for it... :|
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Taking free Shotgun from police vehicles is seen as scripts abuse for reasons such as:
1) It costs at Ammunation, and you get it for free from police vehicle.
2) Gathering it in big amounts to sell it forward and gain personal funds.
3) You still get it due to a bug though the doors are locked from civilians.
4) There are mods/hacks which can actually use this as advantage and give you free Combat Shotgun or other weapon instead of Shotgun.
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I believe I have seen a Manager(Pancher I believe) say that it was not script abuse. I might be wrong though!
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maybe players who steals shotguns from PD cars gets automatic suspect for doing it. or lock the police cars that only cops can get in.
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well... CBF could script something to have this erased once a Civilian enters, as if it did for all, even cops who had shotgun on them, would loose it..
or... he can just make a system to detect when a player have had a shotgun before entering the vehicle, so in case he had no shotgun on him, it can run that script to remove the shotgun x 5 from him(which he will gain on entrance), unless a cop on duty.. and bingo.. no problem :)
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But there's nothing wrong with doing it, so why would we need to have it taken away?
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But there's nothing wrong with doing it, so why would we need to have it taken away?
that shotgun, can be abuse in so much way, which i can't explain because if i do so, some players will do it -.-.
i think cops have the rights to get the shotgun, but not the civilian..
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I think the best thing would be if Gandalf or Aragorn would reply here with proper answer about it.
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or lock the police cars that only cops can get in.
It already is so, and that's why it's scripts abusing as you can still get the weapon due to a desynch bug.
I think the best thing would be if Gandalf or Aragorn would reply here with proper answer about it.
If I still remember right, last time it was announced as scripts abusing from Gandalf, himself.
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I've roleplayed stealing a shotgun from a cop car before. An admin was part of the roleplay (can't recall the name, he doesn't play on Argonath anymore I believe) and he didn't have any problems with it.
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If you want, you make one yourself. I'm sure the developers would be pleased.
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If you want, you make one yourself. I'm sure the developers would be pleased.
I am not sure, but I think that cop cars' doors were locked for civilians.
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Its against the law, not against the rules.
Any admin punishing for this must be very confused.
Edit: Checked again, its definitely not in the rules.
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Last time the rules were updated were like... ages ago.
@Janar, they are, but thanks to the desynch bug, people are still able to take Shotgun from PD cars when they 'desynch-enter' it.
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Taking free Shotgun from police vehicles is seen as scripts abuse for reasons such as:
1) It costs at Ammunation, and you get it for free from police vehicle.
2) Gathering it in big amounts to sell it forward and gain personal funds.
3) You still get it due to a bug though the doors are locked from civilians.
4) There are mods/hacks which can actually use this as advantage and give you free Combat Shotgun or other weapon instead of Shotgun.
5) Its tab abuse? ...
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What is?
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The rules clearly have this in it.. I don't know what some of you are talking about.. this would be considered "glitching" to my knowledge. I was unaware that this wasn't allowed until Gandalf corrected me on a previous topic. He states specifically that this isn't allowed because the player is not meant to have it.
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I Agree with Giac, this is rule is kinda Bullshit.
It's like saying "Jumping and climbing has been banned because the default key is shift and caps and shift is abused in chat by players''
like wtf?
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It's like saying "Jumping and climbing has been banned because the default key is shift and caps and shift is abused in chat by players''
like wtf?
I laughed out loud :lol:
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As a scripter I'll give my views on this rule, but please do not take it too seriously as it may be of different opinion to the community leaders
Getting a shotgun in a police car is not a script or a bug
Therefore, it is not script abuse or bug abuse
It's a function in San Andreas Singleplayer
Until we release a script which auto-removes the shotguns, my opinion is that this should be allowed
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Agreed with David, then again I always thought it was one of them "allowed but illegal" things..
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Agree with David, most players will not even know about this rule as there are a ton of unwritten detailed rules..that people seem to throw outta their asses to punish people fast as FUCKING possible! I am sick of seeing players getting banned for such things as stealing 5 ammo of fucking SHOTGUN from a police car..most times that player could not even kill a player with that ammount of ammo.
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Agreed with David, then again I always thought it was one of them "allowed but illegal" things..
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Agreed with David, then again I always thought it was one of them "allowed but illegal" things..
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Agreed with David, then again I always thought it was one of them "allowed but illegal" things..
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I think this is a rule the admins made themselfs, cause from what I've heard of a high person here, it's not a script abuse.
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I think this is a rule the admins made themselfs, cause from what I've heard of a high person here, it's not a script abuse.
Please enlighten me on who is higher than Gandalf. :roll:
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Taking free Shotgun from police vehicles is seen as scripts abuse for reasons such as:
1) It costs at Ammunation, and you get it for free from police vehicle.
2) Gathering it in big amounts to sell it forward and gain personal funds.
3) You still get it due to a bug though the doors are locked from civilians.
4) There are mods/hacks which can actually use this as advantage and give you free Combat Shotgun or other weapon instead of Shotgun.
blablabla script abuse. Not kind of any abuse, it's the SA:MP Itself, not argonath script.
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blablabla script abuse. Not kind of any abuse, it's the SA:MP Itself, not argonath script.
actually it is.
they got a fine working script to avoid u gaining shotguns.
but when you enter the copcar you HAVE to press TAB to remain in car & gain shotgun.
= tababuse = Script abooz? :)
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Um... When you enter the car via the passenger seat you will get kicked out of the car AND you will get 5 shotgun ammo.
/me seeing a good chance to gain a new weapon jumps into the police cruiser, grabs the shotgun from the cabin and proceeds with his attempt to escape.
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The police lock script was made not so civilians cannot get shotgun, but so civilians can't drive police cars... Use common sense.
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Sprunk was taken off for reason,because mot people go to sprunk instead of going to medic or any restaurant. i think its the same as this shotgun. all players will go to all cops car and will not go to Ammunation.
Cops car is too much on the server, you can go to sf,lv,and ls and maybe you will got like 100+ ammount of ammo...
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Sprunk was taken off for reason,because mot people go to sprunk instead of going to medic or any restaurant. i think its the same as this shotgun. all players will go to all cops car and will not go to Ammunation.
Cops car is too much on the server, you can go to sf,lv,and ls and maybe you will got like 100+ ammount of ammo...
If you have gone all over the fucking map you deserve that 100 ammo...
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Well, I know how we can fix this.
When you enter the Enforcer (SWAT car) at LSPD, you get armour inside, when you'r outside it dissapears.
Maybe CBFasi can script it the same for cop cars, when they enter, they got shotgun, when they are outside, it dissapears.
Shotgun for cops is for heavy suspects..
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Well, I know how we can fix this.
When you enter the Enforcer (SWAT car) at LSPD, you get armour inside, when you'r outside it dissapears.
Maybe CBFasi can script it the same for cop cars, when they enter, they got shotgun, when they are outside, it dissapears.
Shotgun for cops is for heavy suspects..
Also like 80% of cops have a SMG or something extremely Heavy to combat suspects who are heavily armed.
WIth the Shotgun issues, its a normal shotgun and only 5 bullets. Not a real big deal, i mean if your cought by a cop doing this..you should get /su for it. People say you need to hit Tab, that would be script abuse.
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Maybe CBFasi can script it the same for cop cars, when they enter, they got shotgun, when they are outside, it dissapears.
There may be a conflict in scripts, that when a person with guns/only shotgun, but their OWN, BOUGHT Shotgun, enter accidently the car, and then it gets fully dissapeard.
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You don't have to press tab to gain shotgun.
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You don't have to press tab to gain shotgun.
I heard you need to press Tab to remain in the car that is script abuse.
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If you have gone all over the f**king map you deserve that 100 ammo...
No you fucking deserve to be punished for doing it...
As IcyAero stated earlier there is many reasons why it's not allowed the main one being players storing it and selling it on to make money.
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I think this shouldnt be bannable... i remember accidentally entering a cop car and got 5 combats and got warned for it... Such bullshit
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I think this shouldnt be bannable... i remember accidentally entering a cop car and got 5 combats and got warned for it... Such bullshit
There are over 100 cop vehicles all over the map. If you have even a single Combat Shotgun, you can simply use those vehicles to gain more ammo and sell it for a profit. Which is why it is seen as script abuse.
An auto-removal script for the Cop Cars should probably work by removing the same amount of bullets from your shotgun weapon, as the ones that you get from a police car.
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If you are somehow able to round up the ammo from every single cop car without getting suspected then you deserve the small amount of ammo that you will get.
In this situation, the cops are also asleep.
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There are over 100 cop vehicles all over the map. If you have even a single Combat Shotgun, you can simply use those vehicles to gain more ammo and sell it for a profit. Which is why it is seen as script abuse.
An auto-removal script for the Cop Cars should probably work by removing the same amount of bullets from your shotgun weapon, as the ones that you get from a police car.
Yes but shouldn't this be the cops job to protect their ammo? If they don't mind people stealing their own guns than that's their fault.
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Yes but shouldn't this be the cops job to protect their ammo? If they don't mind people stealing their own guns than that's their fault.
Hundreds of cop cars scattered all over the map.
Maximum of 50 Cops online, half of which are engaged in chasing a mass murderer.
Everyone else is free to steal from any of the cars.
Now if you know of a way for us to keep watch over all Cop cars, I'd be happy to hear it.
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Hundreds of cop cars scattered all over the map.
Maximum of 50 Cops online, half of which are engaged in chasing a mass murderer.
Everyone else is free to steal from any of the cars.
Now if you know of a way for us to keep watch over all Cop cars, I'd be happy to hear it.
Well the cars are in one parkinglot/garage 1-2 officers can guard each one of these places... if suspect doesnt listen he get /su and wont bother trying to steal anymore of them.
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It's like entering police squad vehicle in real life, breaking the gun lock out and taking the shotgun? I am not sure about this rule but in my opinion cops should take care of that. And i don't know why people use it, you can get shotgun 50 bullets/ like 100$ isn't it, so why abuse lol...
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Why are people getting PUNISHED for this? Punishing people for this roleplay is the most bullshit policy I have EVER seen enforced...It is NOT the admins' job to stop people playing a part of the game...Shotguns are given from cop cars in singleplayer ever...It's the cops' job to make sure people are not stealing guns from their cars...People have been RPing stealing the shotguns since 0.1b, and the policy has always been that cops take care of them..why are some guys deciding to change this policy now? It's not a special script on Argonath, we can't control it (Well, I suppose we could if we wanted to.) and it's pathetic that some guys are getting banned for it... :|
Sorry to blow this topic up but Gandalf already stated this is script abuse. :P
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Oh no, not 5 ammo!
The ammunition black market will crash!
Oh wait, it won't.
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Oh no, not 5 ammo!
The ammunition black market will crash!
Oh wait, it won't.
Quit trolling every one of my posts to flame my responses or I will have a moderator take action. Gandalf has already made it clear his decision on this, so quit flaming.
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He might not have been trolling you, but possibly could have been referring to the topic or idea itself.
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Quit trolling every one of my posts to flame my responses or I will have a moderator take action. Gandalf has already made it clear his decision on this, so quit flaming.
Sorry that you are so arrogant you assumed I was paying attention to you. I was in fact just stating my opinion on the topic in general.
The fact I dislike you is irrelevant in this example.
tl;dr: I was referring to the topic content, get over yourself.
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Taking free Shotgun from police vehicles is seen as scripts abuse for reasons such as:
1) It costs at Ammunation, and you get it for free from police vehicle.
2) Gathering it in big amounts to sell it forward and gain personal funds.
3) You still get it due to a bug though the doors are locked from civilians.
4) There are mods/hacks which can actually use this as advantage and give you free Combat Shotgun or other weapon instead of Shotgun.
You've Been Told! Get Banned For It Now Well Your Fault Really
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me banned!! me do wat? HELP!,,, Me do what? Wat?
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if your banned go to the unban section found here
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?board=113.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?board=113.0)
and read the stickies
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Sorry that you are so arrogant you assumed I was paying attention to you. I was in fact just stating my opinion on the topic in general.
The fact I dislike you is irrelevant in this example.
tl;dr: I was referring to the topic content, get over yourself.
You keep following every topic I post in to immediately argue with me on it...
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If they use roleplay, then go ahead, if not, it shouldn't be allowed.
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Stealing shotguns from cop cars is cool.
lol@Sugar,btw
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You keep following every topic I post in to immediately argue with me on it...
No, I look in every topic that interests me and often we disagree.
You need to let go of this obsession you seem to have that I follow you or something.
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This is kinda like when the new scripts where released, When people went into the SWAT trucks and were using equipt commands to gain armour, It WAS counted by abuse by every admin, and so is this. It is taken unfairly and it isnt suppose to be there, if it WAS allowed there would be a command /stealshotgunfrompolicecar - And we all know theres not one, so this is TAB abuse to gain weapons - script abuse..
Panda is right that it wont crash the ammunation popularity, but I think the idea is that players do own SOME weapons for free, which they shouldn't of.
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People should still be punished for that... ( in my opinion )