Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Julio. on March 30, 2010, 09:48:56 pm
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I've decided, many people have been saying things like, omg no one wants this local ooc chat, or 'everyone' wants the ooc local chat
so lets see what us argonathians really do want!
Vote Now!
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Will get locked in few seconds.
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arent you gonna vote?
some people who do actually RP use brackets to stop them 'mixing' ooc and ic
so its a good idea for these people to have it
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People will lock it, because they are scared of the results.
I vote yes.
/ooc command is a solution
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No. If you want to, you can add brackets to /local yourself. You don't need a script for that.
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Argonath's leaders doesn't support IC/OOC differentiation, therefore this topic is useless.
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Argonath's leaders doesn't support IC/OOC differentiation, therefore this topic is useless.
But almost all other players do support them
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But almost all other players do support them
Maybe the players you hang out with, yes. I know plenty of people who do not use brackets. I myself, however, do use brackets when I'm OOC since I'm used to it.
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But almost all other players do support them
Argonath's leaders doesn't support IC/OOC differentiation, therefore this topic is useless.
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But almost all other players do support them
Yet Gandalf has stated that some ideas, no matter how much support they have by players will not be implemented because the leaders believe that they will divert Argonath away from the original vision.
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Damn...
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Argonaths Vision is not that of any other RP server.
Therefor OOC, Metagaming, Powergaming rules will NEVER be implemented.
I do not use brackets at all, if you cannot tell the difference without the brackets you have a lot to learn about RP.
Argonath's leaders doesn't support IC/OOC differentiation, therefore this topic is useless.
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IC and OOC are employed by a range of players in Argonath SA:MP. Whilst they are not officially or traditionally supported, you are permitted to practise them as long as you agree not to enforce others to do the same.
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Let's say this straight. Argonath is divided into two parts of players. One part is that supports OOC/IC and else, and the second part that supports their own way of Roleplay. We cannot force anyone how to roleplay. We are allowed to enforce our roleplay and yell about "bad roleplay" only to our own Groupmembers.
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Frankly, I think its divided into two alright - one group that supports argonath roleplay, and the second part that supports their own way. In this case, "their own way" is your OOC/IC rules.
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I of course use Brackets for OOC. Only because if your roleplaying and you try to talk and rp at the same time it gets so confusing. Especially when you run into someone who i just roleplaying and they talk the same ic and ooc. I mean i dont mind using brackets but i also heard that /em is for ooc talk aswell.
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I of course use Brackets for OOC. Only because if your roleplaying and you try to talk and rp at the same time it gets so confusing. Especially when you run into someone who i just roleplaying and they talk the same ic and ooc. I mean i dont mind using brackets but i also heard that /em is for ooc talk aswell.
/em was incorporated for third person/party actions
for example if you rp a waitress or bartender who isn't actually there
you could
/me orders a beer from the waitress
/em Waitress retrieves and opens the beer and hands it to the man.
Yes, while many people use /em for ooc, it was never made for that purpose, nor was that it's intended use.
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What did you say urs? About 70% of people want this Ooc chat? Well, you are about right so far
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If there would be a command like this, new players would have the wrong idea of what Argonath is about. If you want brackets, type them.
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I understood this topic totally wrong...
I can say it aint hard to add brackets if you want to use them or use /em when you want to make OOC note..
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Frankly, I think its divided into two alright - one group that supports argonath roleplay, and the second part that supports their own way. In this case, "their own way" is your OOC/IC rules.
Those things did not originate from Argonath, so they are not true Argonathian customs.
Are you trying to bring into Argonath the "serious" roleplay with OOC/IC shit and others do not hey do not fart do not fight do not talk do not pee do not poo etc...? If answer is "yes" - then you are not welcomed...
Using brackets is showing that you have no ability to RP and is for sure not a sign for good RP. In fact if you are not able to make difference between IC and OOC you have a lot to learn about RP.
One more quote.
I do not care.... We were making Argonath with OUR VISION and people liked it... your vision of Argonath (with the huge amount of ZOMG roleplayers) just shitted Argonath to the cheap moaning community where every kid is crying about everything... And where everyone is sure that roleplay depends on the chat system and not on the brains' activity and level of IQ of players themselves...
No matter how many of you team up to drag unnecessary stuff into Argonath, Argonath will stay what the Developers want it to be, not what "ZOMGLEETRP" people want it to be.
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Those things did not originate from Argonath, so they are not true Argonathian customs.
We finally agree.
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Yeah, but a million more topics like this will be created, so I will put the search tool link in advance.
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?action=search;advanced (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?action=search;advanced)
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Why need a script for this? If you feel you need the OOC brackets, then just type them. Besides, there's more characters to type for "/ooc" than there is for ").)", so a script would just be totally redundant.
The point is, don't moan at all about who don't use them, but ALSO don't moan at all about people who do use them. This is the best way not only avoid arguments and complaints about "bad RPers", but also to bring people together in a happier environment.
:ps: WTF?? I just noticed that typing two brackets together makes a "something wierld". :S
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:ps: WTF?? I just noticed that typing two brackets together makes a "something wierld". :S
Even the Forum doesn't support "OOC" now. :)
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Even the Forum doesn't support "OOC" now. :)
Yes, I am 100% sure the whole SMF developer team is against brackets.
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what teh fuck is a ooc??? or a ic???
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I just accidently OOC, wat do?
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/me Gets the dude out of the car
/say:(get out)
Too Hard,I dont think so
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Yes, I am 100% sure the whole SMF developer team is against brackets.
Word Censors are set for each SMF Forum, not for SMF as a whole.
/me Gets the dude out of the car
/say:(get out)
Not a very good example of an RP...
Imagine that you are on stage during a school play, that you are portraying a knight who is about to slay a dragon. Instead of just saying "Die, thou evil dragon!", you also say "Okay, drop down on the ground now so that the dragon will look dead" afterwards to the guys in the dragon costume, in front of the play's audience. Not a very good actor. :lol:
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LMAO,OOC in Real Life...
BTW what means the OOC are that Initials of what words?
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BTW what means the OOC are that Initials of what words
Out of character, I believe.
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I just accidently OOC, wat do?
osrs
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I know Gandalf doesnt want us doing OOC and IC. But why can't we? If some of us want to use OOC and IC, why not?
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I know Gandalf doesnt want us doing OOC and IC. But why can't we? If some of us want to use OOC and IC, why not?
you can use it (( )) just Argonath RPG doesn't support it.
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I know Gandalf doesnt want us doing OOC and IC. But why can't we? If some of us want to use OOC and IC, why not?
You're allowed to, but don't expect any script support.
You can make the brackets or whatever else using your keyboard with /l. Have fun.
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Roleplay your own way, OOC/IC won't really affect it - If you use/support OOC/IC, fine, but don't expect others to.
But a question, if there's no OOC/IC, we can get suspected for something we say over /p?
Regards
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But a question, if there's no OOC/IC, we can get suspected for something we say over /p?
It depends what it was.
If it was "we totally robbed that guy" then probably not, no.
If its a substitute for an (illegal) ad then you can be, e.g. "Selling weed call 2482".
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/l /s /w /me /em are enough to roleplay, as we already do speak occ we can continue using (( and )).
An occ chat is possible but would just end up in confusing player by let them think there is ooc and ic,
which is not true.
As long rules does not say it clearly, they all count for IC or OOC talk, so argonath does still not support
this difference that players may want.
This is something what makes Argonath special not like other RP or RPG server.
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/l /s /w /me /em are enough to roleplay,
Yes, at least if you add brackets to /l.
as we already do speak occ we can continue using something werid and something weird.
What is 'occ' ? Orange Country Choppers?
An occ chat is possible but would just end up in confusing player by let them think there is ooc and ic,
which is not true.
The easiest way to not get confused by talking OOC and IC is by using brackets, how the hell can you get confused by that? ._.
As long rules does not say it clearly, they all count for IC or OOC talk, so argonath does still not support
this difference that players may want.
I got a feeling I've heard that before.
This is something what makes Argonath special not like other RP or RPG server.
Ok, sir.
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The easiest way to not get confused by talking OOC and IC is by using brackets, how the hell can you get confused by that? ._.
He means he doesn't want to confuse players into thinking Argonath has OOC/IC.
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Simple command, additional, not everyone has to use it, but it for sure would drag a lot of new players.
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I really can't see the harm in creating one new command to encompass IC/OOC support. No rules need to be associated with it like other SA:MP servers but it will give people the option to use it when needed. It would certainly reduce the amount of players moaning and also reduce the amount of pontless topics created on the forum.
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Simple command, additional, not everyone has to use it, but it for sure would drag a lot of new players.
Argonath doesn't try to win a popularity contest. If there would be such a command, it's bound to happen that players will tell others to use it. So lets not complicate things and just keep it the way it is.
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He means he doesn't want to confuse players into thinking Argonath has OOC/IC.
I can't stress this enough.
Giving it a command is endorsing it, and telling new players they should use it, which they definitely should not.
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Wouldn't it be easier to create or just steal a single command that added brackets, instead of taking shit and moaning every day about the script?
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No, because as I've said multiple times that would give new players the impression that Argonath had an OOC/IC system, which it doesn't. Can you imagine how confused people would be with a script that supports a system that is not supported by any admins and is disliked or ignored by the majority of the playerbase?
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This will never, ever, EVER be implemented...I dunno why you even suggest it...
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Personally, I don't use OOC/IC brackets. But I don't complain either if I see others use them in their RP, and just continue it without myself using the brackets. However, I would complain if someone decided that he or she shall enforce these practices on me. Therefore I would not support the idea of adding bracket chat, as it gives more reasons for people to moan.
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First things first. I do not post this to cause an arguement, just a statement, k?
Basically, The poll itself shows nonsense (not stating that it is a dumb question). As stated, Argonath does NOT support any strict rp, naming 'Metagaming' and 'Powergaming' and mainly the "IC" and the "OOC" things.
Even on how the person supports the IC and OOC things, that rule will never be implemented by the Leaders of Argonath as foretold that Argonath is for FUN not for Strict RPing.
Lets imagine this :
A new player that doesn't know how to RP came to Argonath to make new friends and have fun. He studied the rules by far. One day he went to a person that is supporting the IC and OOC matter. The new guy said "Hey, what is the command to be a cop?" and the Regular says "Sir, there isn't any commands on how to be a legit Policeman". That way the player will be confused later on if we do it this way.
I myself, does sometimes do some serious RP and brackets its just because I'm used to it, but there is a fact that once you use it like you are influenced to it, may get players confused. Once this spreads, the player that learned how to use the IC and OOC things. He will spread it to more players, as Argonath community starts to learn OOC and IC things, Argonath may have the result of supporting IC and OOC things. Which they are NOT. I'm sorry if I may have some grammar mistakes and spelling mistakes, But please understand if what would happen to Argonath in this case.
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People only vote "no", because they wanna butt-buddy with the current system with Argonath not supporting IC/OOC. There's no denying it.
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Nah we are not turning into ls**.... using brackets isnt hard.
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People only vote "no", because they wanna butt-buddy with the current system with Argonath not supporting IC/OOC. There's no denying it.
No they aren't 'butt-buddy' with the current way, it's cause it's always been this way until we had all these players start using OOC/IC and them wanting it implemented on Argonath. No-one is stopping you from using OOC/IC ways ingame but just don't be inforcing it on players and expect them to follow it aswell.
This will never, ever, EVER be implemented...I dunno why you even suggest it...
Like Giac says it's pointless bringing up these topics all the time as the same shit just gets said.
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I am going to end the poll very soon...
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I support it although it is not supported rendering this idea useless..
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we haven't got very conclusive evidence yet...
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we haven't got very conclusive evidence yet...
Of what?
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of whether people would support ooc local chat :(
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of whether people would support ooc local chat :(
:Facepalm:
Look around the forum there's a ton of folk that support it and there's those who don't.
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lol :m4: :sig: xD
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The poll is roughly even, nothing like the "70%" bullshit some people came up with.
If it is added, then people will think thats what they have to use. I for one don't want elitist dickheads shoving their roleplaying crutches down my throat.
It won't be added just because you're too lazy to type four brackets. If you really, really aren't good enough at roleplaying that you need such an aid, then you are perfectly capable of making it with the current commands and some brackets.
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The poll is roughly even, nothing like the "70%" bullshit some people came up with.
If it is added, then people will think thats what they have to use. I for one don't want elitist dickheads shoving their roleplaying crutches down my throat.
It won't be added just because you're too lazy to type four brackets. If you really, really aren't good enough at roleplaying that you need such an aid, then you are perfectly capable of making it with the current commands and some brackets.
whoa, don't get so heated...
This is not a flame topic, it is just so we can see what the general opinion really is, and unless one side comes out very much the most popular, then it is not conclusive either...
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The poll is roughly even, nothing like the "70%" bullshit some people came up with.
If it is added, then people will think thats what they have to use. I for one don't want elitist dickheads shoving their roleplaying crutches down my throat.
It won't be added just because you're too lazy to type four brackets. If you really, really aren't good enough at roleplaying that you need such an aid, then you are perfectly capable of making it with the current commands and some brackets.
Brackets win, and they don't lower RolePlay capabilities. More like rising them.
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Pablo = Pablo. You changed name on the forum too or did I miss it a while back?
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Pablo = Pablo. You changed name on the forum too or did I miss it a while back?
Yes, changed today.
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Brackets win, and they don't lower RolePlay capabilities. More like rising them.
Why do you need brackets to roleplay when others are perfectly capable of roleplaying without them?
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Brackets win, and they don't lower RolePlay capabilities. More like rising them.
How do they rise the capabilities? Your role playing happens in character, always. And when do you use brackets? When you are not role playing. So it does not increase any role playing capabilities.
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Brackets win, and they don't lower RolePlay capabilities. More like rising them.
Obviously you are not a very good RPer then. That goes for everyone else who think that they need brackets in order to RP better.
I for one don't want elitist dickheads shoving their roleplaying crutches down my throat.
If this were Facebook, I'd like his post. Shame that there aren't any more spaces for quotes in my signature :neutral:
This is not a flame topic, it is just so we can see what the general opinion really is, and unless one side comes out very much the most popular, then it is not conclusive either...
It's only more proof that elitists are shitting Argonath SA:MP further away from what it once was- a community very similar to MTA:VC, with lack of people who needed all sorts of aids to help them roleplay. In Argonath SA:MP's early days, we did not have the same proportion of those people moaning how this or that crutch makes their RP better.
Besides, regardless of the amount of poor RPers and shitters who moan for Argonath to be changed into an RLRPG, it will not happen. The Developers made it according to their vision and that is how it will remain.
Think of it this way, Roleplaying is like Acting. We take role, put ourselves into it, and play it out.
For example, imagine that in real life, you and your classmates are performing in a Guinevere and Lancelot play for your school, but that this particular play isn't totally scripted a hundred percent, meaning some of it is up to the actors.
Good Acting (or good RP):
**Lancelot shouts: Die, thy foul beast!
**Lancelot attempts to thrust his sword into the Dragon's heart
**A fierce struggle ensues between the two (Dragon) < Imagine this as an /em
**Both are locked in struggle, using up all their strength (Lancelot)
**Dragon is stabbed by Lancelot's sword in the heart (Dragon)
**Dragon shouts: ROAAAAR!
**Dragon falls to the ground and dies.
Bad Acting (or bad RP):
**Lancelot shouts: Die, thy foul beast!
**Lancelot attempts to stab his sword into the heart of the Dragon
**The two are locked in an epic struggle, with the Dragon attempting to resist (Dragon)
(You see the actor portraying Lancelot saying to the guy portraying Dragon: Success or Fail?) < Imagine this as /em success/fail
(The actor portraying Dragon responds: Success)
**Lancelot stabs the Dragon in the heart
**Dragon shouts: ROAAAR!
**Dragon falls to the floor and dies.
Now personally, even before I knew Argonath, if I encountered a play where I caught the actors acting poorly as they did in the second scenario, I would have yelled my boos and thrown potatoes at the actors.
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Player 1: (( Lol did you see that guy get owned? ))
Player 2: Argonath does not support IC/OOC
Cop 1: ARGONATH DOES NOT SUPPORT IC/OOC!!!!
I've seen it happen before :/
But yeah, success/fail is quite horrible roleplay. Sadly, many people do not have the initiative to actually initiate the roleplay where they fail or succeed to do something.
Post Merge: April 07, 2010, 08:15:42 am
Why do you need brackets to roleplay when others are perfectly capable of roleplaying without them?
Yes, but I for one do not like people going "so liek u guys wunt pie or sum shit LOL?" in the middle of a serious roleplay session, brackets or not. Sadly most of the people who don't use brackets act exactly like that.
I don't mind stuff like 'Shit, I have to go' or 'Get on TS you moron' though.
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Obviously you are not a very good RPer then. That goes for everyone else who think that they need brackets in order to RP better.
all the BEST RPers come from other servers like P*RP and L*RP, and they have brackets, you are saying because they have brackets they are shit RPers.
Why the fuck did you start another Argument when Ive already said:
whoa, don't get so heated...
This is not a flame topic, it is just so we can see what the general opinion really is, and unless one side comes out very much the most popular, then it is not conclusive either...
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all the BEST RPers come from other servers like P*RP and L*RP, and they have brackets, you are saying because they have brackets they are shit RPers.
wat :rofl:
If you think the RP here is all shit, then you're better off on the other Servers.
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all the BEST RPers come from other servers like P*RP and L*RP, and they have brackets, you are saying because they have brackets they are shit RPers.
Why the f**k did you start another Argument when Ive already said:
Theres a logout button on the top of this page, use it and gtfo, and never come back.
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all the BEST RPers come from other servers like P*RP and L*RP, and they have brackets, you are saying because they have brackets they are shit RPers.
If "all the best roleplayers are coming from LSRP", then why did they leave? Perhaps they do not like the brackets? Perhaps they do not like the roleplay there?
Yes, but I for one do not like people going "so liek u guys wunt pie or sum shit LOL?" in the middle of a serious roleplay session, brackets or not.
If someone starts using brackets then I will do the above, and am unlikely to otherwise unless I can't be bothered with conversing with the person, in which case I'm probably just on my way to my plane or something.
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More people seem to like using brackets than not :roll:
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Or more likely, people were intentionally brought to this topic, whereas people against it don't at first see what a pile of shit it would make the server if it was brought in. Scripting a command is accepting IC/OOC and "leet roleplay" which is something Argonath will never do, primarily because these roleplaying ideals are crap.
More people seem to like using brackets than not :roll:
Very well then.. have fun typing them.
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all the BEST RPers come from other servers like P*RP and L*RP, and they have brackets, you are saying because they have brackets they are shit RPers.
Lol. I'm considered a great RPer, and the rest of the =AV='s too, and we never had to use brackets (at least, to my knowledge, me, Dave and 9r2e5i3k), except on my first year of 0.2.2 and 0.2.X (AKA: RS3) I used brackets.
My first and only SA:MP roleplaying server was and still is Argonath RPG. I may have left sometimes, but I was an ass and couldn't admit my mistakes. My roleplaying skills have grown with Argonath RPG, and frankly, most likely faster than those Strict Roleplaying Servers (Oh, look! The initials of "Strict", "Roleplaying" and "Servers" make the acronym SRS! PARADOX!), I've always roleplayed, even if I had to do it alone, like accidents and/or a lonely person.
Now tell me: I am considered (not saying I am) a great roleplayer, always RPing, even while driving you are ALREADY roleplaying a person that is driving a car (my theory) (or what you guys call "Freeroam"), and my only roleplaying server was Argonath; did I came from P*RP or L*RP? Nope. =)
Oh! You can ask Pandalink, Grzesiek, real ARPD officers/senior officers/sumshit, people who have been here very long and didn't left yet (with the exception those who say that IC/OOC brackets thing is needed, they'll defend their side...) if what I'm saying is true. They are all the best roleplayers in Argonath RPG.
Personally I use "/em s/f?" most likely with people just fail to use common sense and scream at me "OMG POWERGAMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!", and, personally, I'd rather let them rot in their little world, than helping them. :neutral:
EXAMPLE OF ROLEPLAYING THAT YOU GUYS SAY IT REQUIRES S/F BUT IT DOESN'T: All you have to do is "/me attacks person", it's not like saying that you succeed immediately. "Person evades and punches Grovyle" and "/me jumps backwards and makes a roundhouse kick to person's face" and "Person evades and punches Grovyle in the dick" and then it goes on until you or the other person decides that the fighting scene is over.
:ps: Child imagination really helps sometimes... :)
:ps: I'm not by any way saying I'm (one) the best roleplayer in Argonath, incase you are really obsessed with your skills.
:ps: I use /me for almost everything I do, this includes taking out a shotgun, holstering a pistol, pissing on sewers (don't tell i9 about this :roll: ), crashing a car, defying laws of physics, etc...
Do I have to rage more? :)
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all the BEST RPers come from other servers like P*RP and L*RP, and they have brackets, you are saying because they have brackets they are shit RPers.
Where did they start? Here, or on other servers.
Some of them wants to play a bit more seriously, which I highly respect, and they move there for good, and some of us comes back because we fit even better here than there.
Brackets is something I started to use in my early roleplay career, here on Argonath.
I don't even remember who it was who thaught me, but I remember it was popular even then.
It makes it easier to roleplay and I'm used to use them, which keeps me using them. I don't see any problem with no brackets either, but I do hate immature people who obviously are older than they act like.
So, my answer is kinda like Olivers.
Yes, but I for one do not like people going "so liek u guys wunt pie or sum shit LOL?" in the middle of a serious roleplay session, brackets or not. Sadly most of the people who don't use brackets act exactly like that.
I don't mind stuff like 'Shit, I have to go' or 'Get on TS you moron' though.
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If "all the best roleplayers are coming from LSRP", then why did they leave? Perhaps they do not like the brackets? Perhaps they do not like the roleplay there?
Just waste of time to have something called OOC chat.. i can manage to talk "ooc" and "ic" in the local chat without confuse people with it and without using barracks...
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Just waste of time to have something called OOC chat.. i can manage to talk "ooc" and "ic" in the local chat without confuse people with it and without using barracks...
But you work on IKEA and comes like a god from nowhere to set houses, so of course you can. ;)
srs part:
I highly respect those who don't use it either, but for me, it makes it easier and I'm very used to it, so, I hope it doesn't mind someone else, because it seems like some of the "I WANNA PLAY ARGO STYLE"- is very bothered about it.
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srs part:
I highly respect those who don't use it either, but for me, it makes it easier and I'm very used to it, so, I hope it doesn't mind someone else, because it seems like some of the "I WANNA PLAY ARGO STYLE"- is very bothered about it.
I'm not bothered about anyone using brackets/em success fail, I am just bothered those who force me/anyone else to use them...
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Grovyle, i really like you, but i cannot say same bout your RP skills. Well at least in my opinion
using "lol" every second sentence, also /EM WTF????????????? /me gets bucket from nower.
And note this either. I haven't come from LSRP Either.
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Add the damn pair of "barracks" (:lol:) before your sentence. Use /chatmode l and it occupies same room as /l text.
You can also invent a shorter version for the OOC/IC barracks, or just use proper/un proper punctuation. There are many simple ways to represent how you are behaving towards a player you are talking to which do not require the barrack pairs.
We get this /b implemented, then people will start to moan for a /taze, for an /o, for limitation of weapon slots and hell knows what else.
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all the BEST RPers come from other servers like P*RP and L*RP, and they have brackets, you are saying because they have brackets they are shit RPers.
Why the f**k did you start another Argument when Ive already said:
Names please? I would really like to know, where for example I stand on the ranking of role players. Or Aragorn, Pandalink, Frank_Hawk, Grzesiek, Mango.
Please, enlighten me. What are those people's standing the role players ranking.
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:Facepalm:
Look around the forum there's a ton of folk that support it and there's those who don't.
Obviously, it's more supported than it is un-supported.
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using "lol" every second sentence, also /EM WTF????????????? /me gets bucket from nower
I've actually stopped using lol everytime (unless I'm really bored), rarely use /em WTF (unless I make a REALLY illogical action, more illogical than defying the laws of physics with the /getfrisked + GS9 roof bug), and I still get stuff out of nowhere cuz I got no other excuse to explain how I got something, if I'm all alone with someone else. :redface:
I wonder what's so wrong about spawning non-game stuff, anyway... :roll:
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More people seem to like using brackets than not :roll:
I don't mean to be rude, but did you pull those statistics out of your ass? People who have been here for a very long time and have become really old players in our community as a result prefer Argonath's original RP methods as opposed to many people in SA:MP who are attempting to slowly convert the Server, which has pissed off RON already.
Grovyle, i really like you, but i cannot say same bout your RP skills. Well at least in my opinion
using "lol" every second sentence, also /EM WTF????????????? /me gets bucket from nower.
And note this either. I haven't come from LSRP Either.
There isn't a problem with you using "Srs RP" but I'm not very happy with you indirectly criticizing others for not using the same techniques.
Obviously, it's more supported than it is un-supported.
I don't give a shit about how much elitists in SA:MP may support this, but it will not be implemented.
I do not care.... We were making Argonath with OUR VISION and people liked it... your vision of Argonath (with the huge amount of ZOMG roleplayers) just shitted Argonath to the cheap moaning community where every kid is crying about everything... And where everyone is sure that roleplay depends on the chat system and not on the brains' activity and level of IQ of players themselves...
I wonder what's so wrong about spawning non-game stuff, anyway... :roll:
I do too... it's sad how some people who have recently come into Argonath prefer to take RP as seriously as boot camp and military regulations, rather than base it on fun and creativity. If such people were in an environment which supported their numerous RP crutches and someone removes them all of a sudden, they will be thrown into chaos.
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i understand, RPing zombie, RPing butterfly... But do it with style not "/EM WTFFFFFFFFFFFFF?"
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Like Pablo said, feel free to roleplay a zombie or a nigga, but do it so you stick to your role and don't fuck around.
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no i haven't pulled these statistics about more people wanting them out my ass.
thats what this poll is about, seeing the opinion
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We know nothing about those people who voted "don't bother" As they voted, they don't care if the command comes or don't. They all for example may themselves role play without the brackets. So 39+16= 55 and 55>49. Or they might all use brackets or somewhat in the middle. We don't know how these 16 people are distributed.
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Voted "NO", I dont want Argonath to turn into something its not.
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YES.
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I think it's best left as it is now, it's not like it's strict roleplaying
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It already has been said enough that if you can not understand which part is IC and which part is OOC when a player tells "LOL I need to go somewhere" you are probably some brain cells short.
As players even got the habit of using useless brachets on forums they got replaced with )) . When I see people using them in game, about 70% of the time they use brackets for RP things, not for real OOC.
Apart from it being useless, anti-creative and killing thiking and imagination.... I can imagine people reporting other for 'not using OOc', giving a new level of moaning and admin work.
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It already has been said enough that if you can not understand which part is IC and which part is OOC when a player tells "LOL I need to go somewhere" you are probably some brain cells short.
I wonder why people have failed to understand even though I've made statements containing the same point or a one similar to the one in this quote :roll:
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I didn't make this for any flame reason, nor an idea, thats why its in SAMP General
and as for your maths
Not bothered doesn't mean they dnt want it, not bothered means they don't care whether the commands is their or not
therefore you have the 50 who want it, and the 40 who don't
the not bothered is part of a different equation entirely
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I didn't make this for any flame reason, nor an idea, thats why its in SAMP General
and as for your maths
Not bothered doesn't mean they dnt want it, not bothered means they don't care whether the commands is their or not
therefore you have the 50 who want it, and the 40 who don't
the not bothered is part of a different equation entirely
Regardless of the amount of people who want it, it will not be implemented.
Summary of the aforementioned reasons as to why it will not be:
-It goes against the Argonath Vision
-It will convey the wrong idea to new players of what the Server is about
-It's something you can type with the commands already present
-The Community and Developers do not support it
-It's something that's totally unnecessary here
Even having a single one of the above 5 reasons is enough for an idea to be denied.
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Regardless of the amount of people who want it, it will not be implemented.
Summary of the aforementioned reasons as to why it will not be:
-It goes against the Argonath Vision
-It will convey the wrong idea to new players of what the Server is about
-It's something you can type with the commands already present
-The Community and Developers do not support it
-It's something that's totally unnecessary here
Even having a single one of the above 5 reasons is enough for an idea to be denied.
I'm not asking for the command!
It was a poll, made just out of interest to see peoples opinions!
Why continue the argument when I never made something to argue against!?
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You made something to argue against by pointing out that the Community wants it to be added. :)
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ok, but i didnt want to start a big argument about it :(
Truce? :rules:
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i understand, RPing zombie, RPing butterfly... But do it with style not "/EM WTFFFFFFFFFFFFF?"
Define your style?
If you abuse of your imagination you can figure out that /em WTF? can be used for something that is watching me/you/us/someone else and was like "WTF" while watching.
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I wonder why people have failed to understand even though I've made statements containing the same point or a one similar to the one in this quote :roll:
Maybe because people won't bother listning to you. I don't see why you're a SA:MP administrator, when you obviously hate everything with SA:MP. Go back to MTA:VC.
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Define your style?
If you abuse of your imagination you can figure out that /em WTF? can be used for something that is watching me/you/us/someone else and was like "WTF" while watching.
Well my style is that i don't use internet terms at all in RP
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Maybe because people won't bother listning to you. I don't see why you're a SA:MP administrator, when you obviously hate everything with SA:MP. Go back to MTA:VC.
don't you think that was a lil' bit harsh?
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Back to topic...
I don't see the point.
1. Argonath is not a strict RP server, so metagaming is not a factor.
2. I think it's pretty obviously OOC if someone says "g2g now".
3. Obviously this will lead onto asking for a command when the poll has ended, and it's just plain lazy. If Argonath supported this, we would soon have commands for: /say 1 /say 2 etc. for saved speech on mainchat.
You only have to move your fingers a little on the keyboard to put brackets....
I voted NO
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no, i will ask for the topic to be locked, it will not result in requests of any kind, stop looking at people with a pessimistic attitude
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no, i will ask for the topic to be locked, it will not result in requests of any kind, stop looking at people with a pessimistic attitude
Lock it then. If you weren't looking for this 'pessimistic' attitude, then this topic was pointless.
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all i wanted was people to put their opinions 'on the table' stop criticising people for expressing their opinions...
I didn't want people to continue arguments, all i wanted was them to post a little short sentence saying why they voted yes or no...
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Joe, there is no problem with wanting to see people's opinions, however, with the current generation of Argonath players, it is very difficult to have a peaceful debate without one or two who always want to cause arguments or provoke others when they see someone opposing a idea that they like or like the sound of.
Best thing is to ignore the people who are dragging themseleves into arguments and take on board the views of people who have peacefully voted and explained why they think such a idea would be good or bad.
Personally, I don't really think a command is needed, we all know how Argonath is more of a relaxed RP server.
However this dosen't prevent strict-RP if you want to do it.
Those who want to roleplay at a strict level can use other ways to differentiate OOC and IC.
Those who want to use relaxed methods of RP that Argonath is built on, just continue using /l to roleplay and speak out of your character if you wish to.
Simple, no problems. Roleplay how you wish to roleplay as long as you let the rest around you roleplay as they want to.
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Joe, there is no problem with wanting to see people's opinions, however, with the current generation of Argonath players, it is very difficult to have a peaceful debate without one or two who always want to cause arguments or provoke others when they see someone opposing a idea that they like or like the sound of.
yup, its not necessarily the ideas that are bad, it is the people.
for example, communism, the idea of everyone having equal pay, equal status, but some people would corrupt this because everyone would want the easy jobs.
same sort of principle
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don't you think that was a lil' bit harsh?
To be honest, it was not harsh as Aksels post is kinda how I see it myself.
Its all about the signals that you are sending.
+1 Aksel
Back to topic, sorry for off topic.
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Maybe because people won't bother listning to you. I don't see why you're a SA:MP administrator, when you obviously hate everything with SA:MP. Go back to MTA:VC.
You're obviously someone who doesn't take the time to know someone entirely before saying that they hate everything that has to do with SA:MP.
If I truly hated everything about SA:MP then I wouldn't enjoy and be proud of the admin work I do here for the community (yes, even though I'm just a Moderator, I love my job), I would have no friends here, I won't take the trouble to emphasize any negative aspects in ideas to make others aware of them, and everything else. Might as well say that Cops eat each and every every sort of baked food just because they eat donuts.
You send me an apology a month ago in PM only to return with more offensive shit a month later. :roll:
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If Argonath supported this, we would soon have commands for: /say 1 /say 2 etc. for saved speech on mainchat.
That's actually a pretty good idea. /say 1 for 'Hello Argonath, is anything going on?', /say 2 for 'Admin, help me please' and /say 3 for 'I'm a lazy prick who can't be bothered to type using my keyboard.'
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Joe, there is no problem with wanting to see people's opinions, however, with the current generation of Argonath players, it is very difficult to have a peaceful debate without one or two who always want to cause arguments or provoke others when they see someone opposing a idea that they like or like the sound of.
Best thing is to ignore the people who are dragging themseleves into arguments and take on board the views of people who have peacefully voted and explained why they think such a idea would be good or bad.
Personally, I don't really think a command is needed, we all know how Argonath is more of a relaxed RP server.
However this dosen't prevent strict-RP if you want to do it.
Those who want to roleplay at a strict level can use other ways to differentiate OOC and IC.
Those who want to use relaxed methods of RP that Argonath is built on, just continue using /l to roleplay and speak out of your character if you wish to.
Simple, no problems. Roleplay how you wish to roleplay as long as you let the rest around you roleplay as they want to.
Well said dude. :)