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Title: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: TwoFace on May 05, 2010, 04:07:16 am
ok from what ive been noticing the past month or so is that no one is buying drugs anymore, very very very few people buy weed and im pretty sure no one is a regular buyer for heroin, and even if there are people who buys these drugs they dont buy it in large amounts like they used too. weed prices are still the same but i know heroin prices are at an all time low and no one is still buying.

what's your opinion in this? and am i right when i say the drug market is dead?
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Que on May 05, 2010, 06:33:02 am
All I see is people buying kilos. It was, almost two years someone came to me and like "Yo, hook me up with a '5." It's not like that anymore, either is big amounts, or nothing else.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Antonio. on May 05, 2010, 06:47:10 am
In my opinion the drug business is not as good as before. And weed prices have went down aswell becasue they were at a maximum of 35/G and now you are lucky if you sell them 25/G. Something gots to happen to make the drug business alive because drug lords lost alot of money.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Pablo on May 05, 2010, 07:30:25 am
At RS2 when weed was released, I found a buyer who wanted weed for 60/g
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Antonio. on May 05, 2010, 07:34:32 am
At RS2 when weed was released, I found a buyer who wanted weed for 60/g
Yea if there was just a way they go back up or if there was a way people with weed could sell it to stores or something: The price is depending on how much you got: So the more you got the more $$ you get.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Omri on May 05, 2010, 07:41:26 am
That brings up memorioes when I were RPing at GS9 Young_Buck, 1g = 5 $.But I could not agree more with the big amounts, its rarely I see small amounts are sold.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Antonio. on May 05, 2010, 07:47:10 am
And that is because it is half cheaper then it was before. I will admit I don't even sell small amounts because It is not worth it. Which is why drug dealing isn't as fun as before.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: (tr)Ollie on May 05, 2010, 08:59:40 am
I still sell small amounts but no one ever wants it.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Que on May 05, 2010, 09:53:50 am
I still sell small amounts but no one ever wants it.

That's what I meant. Of course you could sell in small amounts, but there's never a costumer.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Omri on May 05, 2010, 02:15:45 pm
I still sell small amounts but no one ever wants it.
Try finding a good corner and RP that you are slangin dope from that corner and I know SOME people will come and buy small amounts if you just give it some time, but in the other hand I know what you mean.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Drastic on May 05, 2010, 02:23:22 pm
Well, its pretty much kinda fucked up, either you sell it 20/g or they don't buy it :/
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: (tr)Ollie on May 05, 2010, 02:53:53 pm
Yah I do sometimes go to places like GS9 to try and sell but I rarely get any customers!
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Omri on May 05, 2010, 03:05:23 pm
Yah I do sometimes go to places like GS9 to try and sell but I rarely get any customers!

Try something else, its quite crowded as we all know and people of Argonath also knows whats going on there. Maybe some alleys nearby or something else in your mind :D.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Aksel on May 05, 2010, 03:13:03 pm
That brings up memorioes when I were RPing at GS9 Young_Buck, 1g = 5 $.But I could not agree more with the big amounts, its rarely I see small amounts are sold.


Yes, I was roleplaying a drug dealer at GS9 myself, I sold weed really cheap just for the roleplay ;)
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: (tr)Ollie on May 05, 2010, 03:14:37 pm
I sometimes get my Stracci guys to sell it and give me the money  :roll:
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Julian on May 05, 2010, 04:54:45 pm
I sometimes get my Stracci guys to sell it and give me the money  :roll:

Good way of letting new guys in the faction earn respect.

I used to sell small amounts, but most of the time, I get scammed or the customer doesn't buy it.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Pandalink on May 05, 2010, 04:56:51 pm
They're old, but it still applies in many ways.

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Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Romeo on May 05, 2010, 04:59:40 pm
Drugs have no constructive purpose, people will only buy them when they wish to have a
large collection so they can label themselves a "drug baron". Apart from that, no one wants drugs.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Gandalf on May 05, 2010, 05:04:41 pm
That is simple because nobody uses them.
Might as well remove all script as it only gives advantage to cops.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Dutchy on May 05, 2010, 05:05:49 pm
No one buys drugs because no one uses them, people only use it when they want to RP getting stoned, they get a funny screen and the sometimes die... Thats it, it has no use at all..
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Romeo on May 05, 2010, 05:06:44 pm
That is simple because nobody uses them.
Might as well remove all script as it only gives advantage to cops.

Remove some scripts for cops, even it out.

We don't really need MORE scripts, just different ones.
Cut some out, add some in.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Gandalf on May 05, 2010, 05:13:35 pm
Remove some scripts for cops, even it out.

We don't really need MORE scripts, just different ones.
Cut some out, add some in.
That is what I said. As the drug script has no use for criminals it gives advantage to cops as they can suspect people for it. By removing the drug script it removes an advantage for cops.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Romeo on May 05, 2010, 05:14:37 pm
That is what I said. As the drug script has no use for criminals it gives advantage to cops as they can suspect people for it. By removing the drug script it removes an advantage for cops.

It also removes the only script for criminals that can provide any sort of business income, that isn't legal.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Gandalf on May 05, 2010, 05:15:07 pm
It also removes the only script for criminals that can provide any sort of business income, that isn't legal.
We do not make any script for criminals as you said.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Romeo on May 05, 2010, 05:17:21 pm
We do not make any script for criminals as you said.

Got a reason for that?
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Gandalf on May 05, 2010, 05:19:43 pm
Got a reason for that?
Its what you say, you think of reasons. All we do is fuck up the server, making scripts that nobody needs and give things to cops to annoy you.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: (tr)Ollie on May 05, 2010, 05:24:23 pm
Topic has gone a bit off the original title  :roll:



You spent some time doing those ey Panda :P I don't think we should cut it out of the script as it still provides a small purpose. Sometimes it is easy to sell the odd bit of weed here and there. However, sometimes it is fun to organise a big shipment coming in at Ocean Docks or somewhere similar which is always fun to do  :D
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Romeo on May 05, 2010, 05:27:33 pm
Its what you say, you think of reasons. All we do is f**k up the server, making scripts that nobody needs and give things to cops to annoy you.

So why've you not tried to make something to please the large numbers of players supporting criminal equality, instead of just laughing it off and making us look like we're moaning when we are only trying to improve.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Gandalf on May 05, 2010, 05:32:23 pm
So why've you not tried to make something to please the large numbers of players supporting criminal equality, instead of just laughing it off and making us look like we're moaning when we are only trying to improve.
Exactly. We try to remove as many players from the server as we can, as we would prefer not to have any. But those fools keep returning every time.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Romeo on May 05, 2010, 05:40:42 pm
That's a great view, let's ignore everyone and be sarcastic to look leet.

Thanks for the mature response, seriously.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Gandalf on May 05, 2010, 05:42:24 pm
That's a great view, let's ignore everyone and be sarcastic to look leet.

Thanks for the mature response, seriously.
You are very welcome. We have been ignoring our players since 2006.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Romeo on May 05, 2010, 05:43:32 pm
You are very welcome. We have been ignoring our players since 2006.

That explains alot.
You have no idea.  :neutral:
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Gandalf on May 05, 2010, 05:49:45 pm
That explains alot.
You have no idea.  :neutral:
Of course. That is why I spend at least 4 hours a day and money every month, try to get a team of scripters and admins. Only to ignore every idea of players and to annoy them.

Ok lets cut the crap.
If you want more opportunities for criminals get off your ass and bring ideas that work. Not things because you are jealous at what others have but ideas that are scriptable, can not be abused, contribute in a positive way and move things forward.

Ideas that are meant to gain an advantage over other roles, to obtain money from nowhere or that have a high potential for abuse will be ignored.
Do not take ideas from other servers, they do not work here. Do not take ideas from real life that suit you, while ignoring things from real life that do not. If you want to take things from real life, do not see movies as real life.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Romeo on May 05, 2010, 05:51:37 pm
I've got a few ideas..
mind if I run them past you on msn?

Look, I can't be fucked fighting over this, if something is going to get done then people are going to need to agree.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: BlackEagle on May 05, 2010, 06:01:01 pm
This;
All I see is people buying kilos. It was, almost two years someone came to me and like "Yo, hook me up with a '5." It's not like that anymore, either is big amounts, or nothing else.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Gandalf on May 05, 2010, 06:05:55 pm
I've got a few ideas..
mind if I run them past you on msn?

Look, I can't be f**ked fighting over this, if something is going to get done then people are going to need to agree.
Finally we agree.  ;)
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Argoplayer on May 05, 2010, 08:16:07 pm
same, all i've seen are kG's these days...
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Cofiliano on May 05, 2010, 09:41:30 pm
Exactly. We try to remove as many players from the server as we can, as we would prefer not to have any. But those fools keep returning every time.
I loled Ronnel. :rofl:

Anyway, back to serious issues, I must be annoying too much, by again submitting the same drug market suggestion, that was on the end of editing already supported by most criminals, most law force members, David Omid, even CBF.

The suggestion itself will not only re-alive drug market permanent, and not only that the criminals would finally start earning money in the way they want, like ilegal drug business and not events, but would also move the role play and "action" of both criminals and FBI/ARPD to a higher level.
There would be more drug busts, more role play court case, more undercover operations, more re-search on criminal groups activity, the stuff that makes the ARPD/FBI job even more interesting and inviting.

Also this whole idea and suggestion was brought with Gandalf demand to re-search and submit the ultimate solution for it:
Well in that case bring on the solutions....
Removing anything from cops will not make criminals money.
Letting criminals spend less is not going to make them money.
Giving them group buildings and cars is not going to make criminals money.

If you wish to get criminals more money, contribute ideas.
Link to it: http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=46579.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=46579.0)
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: hell1989 on May 06, 2010, 10:33:40 am
Now as the drug buisness may be dead, people like Eugene Gvardia who hold most drugs on server has nothing to do with them cause no one wants to buy and why is that? Think if you will, drugs do NOTHING but for a screen event and if you use while in combat or driving do not HELP you at ALL.



While we are at it, why not do this..



Weed - one use increase HP at 10 percent - use 8 and you will get screen effect- use 12 and you lose 30 HP

Heroin - one use increase HP at 20 percent - use 5 and you will get a larger screen effect - use 7  you lose 50 HP

New drug Coke - One use increase HP at 40 percent - use 3 and you will get a even harder and bigger effect - use 5 you will die.

Each drug addes up to each other as well, when gets to a too high combination you will die..
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Dutchy on May 06, 2010, 11:13:36 am
Now as the drug buisness may be dead, people like Eugene Gvardia who hold most drugs on server has nothing to do with them cause no one wants to buy and why is that? Think if you will, drugs do NOTHING but for a screen event and if you use while in combat or driving do not HELP you at ALL.



While we are at it, why not do this..



Weed - one use increase HP at 10 percent - use 8 and you will get screen effect- use 12 and you lose 30 HP

Heroin - one use increase HP at 20 percent - use 5 and you will get a larger screen effect - use 7  you lose 50 HP

New drug Coke - One use increase HP at 40 percent - use 3 and you will get a even harder and bigger effect - use 5 you will die.

Each drug addes up to each other as well, when gets to a too high combination you will die..
Healing while in Combat.... I support it.. But I doubt if the devs will..
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: Gandalf on May 06, 2010, 11:17:35 am
Healing while in Combat.... I support it.. But I doubt if the devs will..

Healing in combat is one of the things that is against the etiquette of multiplayer servers.
Title: Re: Is the drug business dead?
Post by: NitrOx on May 06, 2010, 11:18:40 am
I have no problems with selling drugs, I don't think there's a problem with the script either and I think the people bitching about this should try harder.

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