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Title: Hardware Failure
Post by: EliteTerm on May 08, 2010, 10:28:21 pm
Yesterday I was browsing through the internet (Mainly the Angry Video Game Nerd videos), when my computer froze in addition with the audio stutter, going into the Blue Screen of Death, while it was running the dignostic thing it froze at 65%. I then did a hard reset, and the system failed to load. It's running, but nothing's showing up. The monitor states that it is unable to find the source.

So, how can I tell what's the source of the failure?

-Motherboard (if that was the case, then I'm going to purchase a new computer)
-Hard Drive
-Graphic Card

Input is much appriceated.
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: Grovyle on May 09, 2010, 01:33:24 am
It can be a sound card fault, or the diagnostic system itself, or the monitor, or the motherboard's fried.

Check if all wires are correctly placed and the other shizzle.

BTW, I've watched every AVGN episode without any problems.
(also, it's the awesomest show ever)

Regards
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: Devin on May 09, 2010, 02:03:16 am
I have had those issues before on one of my old systems.


There is a few causes which I have discovered.

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The reason why I think it is more than likely your CPU which has died is because you said it started "lagging" during tasks,
 then later froze up while undergoing a task which will use quite a bit of CPU power (Diagnostic scan),
   therefore pointing at the CPU being an issue again, although it may be the connections on the motherboard,
    I am certain it is more than likely a CPU issue you have there.
     You may have to buy a new CPU due to this because I have a feeling your old one may have overheated and burnt out or just simply fried.


~ Devin "MadBoi" Gvardia

Hope I have helped you in some way, Tommy.
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: EliteTerm on May 09, 2010, 03:02:54 am
Well I've had the computer for nearly 2 years. I checked most of the hardwares and they're bolted. I'm running on a 500watt and that shouldn't be the issue.
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: Devin on May 09, 2010, 03:14:12 am
Check the CPU like I said, that is probably your issue.
If you can, try your CPU on another Motherboard, if it doesnt start up, the CPU is dead and its time for a new one.
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: Bilbo on May 09, 2010, 09:11:29 am
If nothing is coming up to your screen, try an alternative graphics output and try to reset your BIOS/CMOS settings. Depending on your motherboard manufacturer and model, it may have a jumper for easy BIOS/CMOS reset. Also take a closer eye on your motherboard capacitors, in case any of them has leaked or swelled. If possible, alternative hard drive can be tested.
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: Ziad on May 09, 2010, 09:24:52 am
its very easy dude :) remove the rams and re-put them and remove the CMOS battery and put it again good luck :)
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: EliteTerm on May 09, 2010, 10:47:54 am
The only graphic output I have is the card, there's no onboard gfx chip. As for the bios/ Cbo something, I don't know what it looks like and I don't know how to reset it. I also tried looking for the cpu so I'm kinds lost here. I'm not that smart :lol:
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: Devin on May 09, 2010, 10:58:42 am
(http://homepcrepair.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/heatsink4.jpg)

Thats something what a CPU will look like.
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: EliteTerm on May 09, 2010, 11:00:57 am
I'm on the phone atm so ill check it out tomorrow on my dads computer.

Thanks for the help, hopefully ill have it fixed.
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: Kessu on May 09, 2010, 12:45:45 pm
Re-put CPU, RAM sticks and video card + replug all the cables which goes to motherboard.
I had same problem just a few weeks ago, PC turned on but nothing happened.
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: EliteTerm on May 09, 2010, 10:38:20 pm
didn't work, trying different monitor. If nothing happens then its fried.
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: Sisko on May 10, 2010, 02:14:42 pm
If something is fried, you can smell it. Stick you nose into your case, and sniff around the motherboard. Yes, that's what I recomend.

Kind Regards
Sisko White
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: Devin on May 10, 2010, 04:08:08 pm
Are there any beeps comming from your MB?

And beeps coming from your MadBoi?  :poke: Since when am I sold?  :roll:
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: EliteTerm on May 13, 2010, 12:19:03 am
found the problem. Its the motherboard. Getting it replaced soon. Hopefully ill be back by this weekend.
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: Devin on May 13, 2010, 07:06:36 am
Alright, check you and kill you soon.

No wait, fuck  :poke: im banned until 2nd June  :(
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: Gandalf on May 13, 2010, 09:55:24 pm
Try to get the shop to tell what the problem was.

Just in cae, did you checl the CPU Fan, or did you replace it recently ?
Aragorn had a similar problem last year that his PC just lagged and died after 2/3 minutes. Turned out teh cooling paste was dried up so the cooler did not work.
After replacing the cooler, everything worked as usual.
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: Devin on May 13, 2010, 10:29:00 pm
When I was discussing possible problems with Tommy over MSN, he said the temperature wasnt any higher than usual which is around 80 if im correct since his case has a heat gage on it.
It is possible its the heat paste which is basically finished but then his CPU temp would raise and he would see it on the gage.
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: Kessu on May 15, 2010, 03:57:38 pm
80c while talking in MSN? That is WAY too high temperature for CPU...
It should be around 50 in desktop (maybe lower) and max 80c in full-load.. (or what's recommended)..
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: Devin on May 15, 2010, 07:45:11 pm
Im not sure if its Celcius of Farnehight and he wasnt using that PC, he just started it up to check if he could get it working, I think he was on his Laptop with MSN.

It could be 80F but im not soo sure, my PC right now is sittlng at 30C with apps open, including Photoshop CS4
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: Brad. on May 15, 2010, 07:50:17 pm
"The problem was the motherboard"

That could only be a hundred things :3

It could need a new MoBo battery (like a watch battery) which could be replaced for like, 2 euros.  or it could just need a CMOS reset.  Do you find any visual burn marks, or a strong burning smell when you open up your computer?

When you turn your computer on, do you hear a BIOS code? (beeps in series)
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: EliteTerm on May 15, 2010, 10:37:17 pm
I heard none.

Madboi it was in F.   
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: Kessu on May 17, 2010, 04:45:04 pm
"The problem was the motherboard"

That could only be a hundred things :3

It could need a new MoBo battery (like a watch battery) which could be replaced for like, 2 euros.  or it could just need a CMOS reset.  Do you find any visual burn marks, or a strong burning smell when you open up your computer?

When you turn your computer on, do you hear a BIOS code? (beeps in series)
If battery is dying, it happens slowly.. Clock stops and stuff... And also it needs exactly same kind of battery if you replace it.. Wrong batter may cause "explosion" as some "experts" say..

CMOS reset doesn't help if PC just don't turn on without modificating components and/or BIOS settings..

(http://koti.mbnet.fi/~fi8o33/kuvia/Konkat_.jpg)
Look at the first pic, you see one of those are swelled (from top of it) and last two are like those should be.. You can see it from top of those..
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: Devin on May 18, 2010, 12:53:07 pm
He already sent his PC in for repairs on Friday so it will more than likely have been sorted out by now.
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: EliteTerm on May 21, 2010, 04:00:52 am
Motherboard swapped, it works like a charm now.

Now I have a new problem. For some reason I cannot play SA or VC from my External Hard-Drive because it doesn't recognize the .exes and crashes the game.


EDIT: What the hell? The EHD jumped a letter. It used to be Drive F and now it's G?  :trust:

EDIT #2: Alright, swapped the drives, everything works but for some damn reason it won't let me play SA or VC single player, but the Multiplayer mods work  :trust:

EDIT #3: Found the problem with SA. Somehow the SAStreamMemFix stopped working along with the Custom Resolution patch... any way to fix that? When I have Custom Resolutions d9x9.dll installed, SA Single Player refuses to start and .exe crashes, but SA:MP works with the .exe and the resolution is screwed up, at 800x600 even though the .ini clearly states it is set to 1600x900.
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: Devin on May 21, 2010, 07:07:55 am
Try connecting the HDD to another USB port,
Try reinstalling GTA and the patches due to the others being bugged.
Title: Re: Hardware Failure
Post by: EliteTerm on May 21, 2010, 09:44:36 am
I am very happy to request this topic to be locked.

Solution: Motherboard fried and swapped with a new one. The issue with San Andreas was the Data Execution Prevention, so I had to make a small adjustment and fixed it.

Thanks to all who has pitched in to provide feedback and solutions to my problem. ;)
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