Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Leon. on May 28, 2010, 11:16:45 pm
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NOTICE: What's in this thread WILL NOT APPLY to the majority of the players.
Many of you say "Bring back good old RS1!"
Nice to see that so many of you want the RS1 scripts when Gimli, CBFasi, and David Omid spent years of hard work, dedication, and time to script what we have today. They each have been through tons and tons of complaints, bug fixes, ideas, bitching, and yet you guys are ungrateful.
Yeah sure, the hell with all three of them. If you think that, then you should really get the f**k out. I respect their hard work, not only because they (likely) do it voluntarily and without pay, but because they put their asses on the line in order to provide a welcoming, fun server for us.
Put yourself in Bill Gates's position and imagine this. You, as Bill Gates, want to keep advancing Microsoft, while so many others just want to revert back to MS-DOS because they claim there was no "VIRUSES, COMPLICATIONS AND WHATNOT." You, as Bill Gates, would think, "God damnit, I put all of this f**king money, these years, and went through decades of bullshitting, yet these ungrateful bastards want to go back to MS-DOS."
Shit, the United States might as well shut down Google. Google's offered all of these websites, a search engine, an AD HOSTING OPPORTUNITY (A GREAT SOURCE OF INCOME FOR COUNTLESS PEOPLE), and whatever the f**k else they host. The Google company would start a wildfire. They've put years and years of work into their products yet the U.S. still shut them down. OH TOO BAD, GOOD OLD AOL AND NETSCAPE BULLSHIT IS BACK :D:D:D:D.
Stop being so f**king greedy and think about CBFasi, Gimli, and David for a moment. If we were to revert, all of their hard work would be gone to waste. You know, my father spent my college fundings, ALL OF IT, which added up to about a few tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars. My mother divorced him partially because of this. Primarily her money (considering she had a JOB in the first place) was just GONE. POOF. This not only pissed her off, but me too, because this could be my future down the drain. But it doesn't concern me. My mother WANTED to pay for my college fundings, because she loves me and wants me to have a good life. CBFasi, Gimli, and David voluntarily created these scripts for us as players, to provide a fun and welcoming environment for many.
And you still want RS1 scripts back. You should be disgraced and sick of yourself.
You still think it's the "moaners" and "new players that moan" that cause all of the trouble and havoc in the server. Although this is partially true, I agree not. No. It's you. You as an undignified, greedy, and ungrateful player, who only takes the hard work put in by our beloved developers for granted and nothing more.
Not related to the main idea to this topic, but if you as a developer is reading this, THANK YOU. Just THANK YOU!
Thank you for making the basis of the scripts.
Thank you for fixing the many server bugs that caused countless crashes and freezes.
Thank you for putting up with my, his, and her bullshit.
Thank you for making the server ENJOYABLE.
As Gandalf once said,
"We fail when you enter the server in a good mood and leave in a bad mood."
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Well spoken.
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Bump.
This should be seen.
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who are you to say this
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Well Done, congratulations!!!
who are you to say this
He is a player
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Good topic my friend.
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Exactly. Well Said.
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It's funny how everything we currently have, players requested, yet now they want it gone
Thanks for writing this topic
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who are you to say this
and who are you to ask him ?
MetalLuigiX Seriously Well said and Awesome Topic!
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I think people are smart enough to know that bringing RS1 would be a complete downgrade.. But people will always say things that make no sense.
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It's been a long time since I've been on, till yesterday.
I sure thing know about all the complains that has been the 2 last years, and I think that David, xcasio and CBFasi has done a wonderful job, but me, personally likes the RS3 or RS4 script better. I liked the car, buying system alot better. But I guess, it's only that I'm not used to it..
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If RS1 comes back, people will moan: 'BRING RS4 BACK!'
Good work making this topic ;)
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Just as a note, nobody is asking for RS1 back. RS1 was SAMP 0.1b which was comparatively shit in pretty much every way. RS2 was SAMP 2.0 which had animations (and objects?).
The only reason RS2 was remembered as better was because there was a ridiculous abundance of money. Plough money into server with a fairly good distribution among players and you will find people are happier and realise how good RS4 actually is.
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Nice topic. I know EXACTLY what you mean, and we should never revert back to RS1. Developers have done an excellent job to satisfy us players and some are still ungrateful; those players I say should go and try it for themselves. The future, in my opinion, of Argonath, is to build on people's ideas and continue the recent progress that has been made (missions, car system, etc)
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Respect for taking time to write this.
Nice topic.
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Well Said PC im pretty sure that more then half of the players moaning hat the want RS1 back don't even know what RS1 is and just heard story's of it people wonder why Rp and Cash was so easy during those times ?? Couse people acculy made an efford to Rp and thats how many earnd there cash
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Thank you.
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and who are you to ask him ?
A person who was actually around close to the time of said scripts.
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Well said, Luigi.
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I don't think that some of the players that wish to go back to RS1 even knows what is it.
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Ok.
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Hell we had fun back in 07.
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Those who wants RS1 back, are probably dinosaurs.
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Respect for taking time to write this.
Can i make a sugetion ?
Make a poll ....
Who wants the Old or new System ... And if New system win gtfo guy of OLD SYSTEM.
Guyz if don't like the new system, GTFO we have more players on Server ;)
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Even RS v9998888899.1112211 won't change this community's facts.
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It's easy to say bring back RS1 but if you were the person that fixed what we have today you would find all that work a waste.
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I would like to know, what the people want back from RS1? The scripts? the people? What? Can somebody make a comparing table for everybody to see, what was back in RS1 and what is now. For example, changes in rules, scripts etc.
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It's not that we want the scripts back. It's that we want the attitude and community of RS1 back. Or.. RS2, actually. It doesn't mean we don't appreciate the new scripts. You new guys weren't there to experience RS2, and so you don't know what it was like.. mainly directed at Metal as well, you weren't even here in those scripts bro. Sure, we like the scripts, but the Argonath experience was much different. Talking about the Community, not the scripts guys. Also, some of the scripters you mentioned didn't even work on RS3 or RS2, so it's slightly irrelevant.
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It's not that we want the scripts back. It's that we want the attitude and community of RS1 back. Or.. RS2, actually. It doesn't mean we don't appreciate the new scripts. You new guys weren't there to experience RS2, and so you don't know what it was like.. mainly directed at Metal as well, you weren't even here in those scripts bro. Sure, we like the scripts, but the Argonath experience was much different. Talking about the Community, not the scripts guys. Also, some of the scripters you mentioned didn't even work on RS3 or RS2, so it's slightly irrelevant.
You took the words out of my mouth.. True.. Geniuses think alike. As Maxy have already stated, that we're looking for the community and not the scripts. We do appreciate the script and the great updates it has gone through. Back then, it used to be WAY different than nowadays. Everything was calm and peaceful. I am not trying to say that it's madness or whatsoever, it's still a good community. So it's not about the script about the Community itself.
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I too miss the players that have left more than the scripts themselves.
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Change is inevitable. Change is also protested against; a fundamental human trait.
In case of change, one has 2 options - (1) adapt or; (2) stagnate to change and wither away.
That being said, adaptability to the new environment should be your bidding. You, as a person or group of persons, may have had more fun with old timers. You may miss them. But you may not get them back. So why not try and adapt?
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Change is inevitable. Change is also protested against; a fundamental human trait.
In case of change, one has 2 options - (1) adapt or; (2) stagnate to change and wither away.
That being said, adaptability to the new environment should be your bidding. You, as a person or group of persons, may have had more fun with old timers. You may miss them. But you may not get them back. So why not try and adapt?
I have adapted, but is it wrong to reminisce about the old times?
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Not wrong but may simply be perceived as an 'I was there, you were not there so it was plain better' topic.
Reminiscing is different from saying 'New guys werent there so you do not know what it was like'. Would you like to hear that if you shared a similar opinion elsewhere? New guys bring new opportunities. In fact, some of them are even better with fresh ideas of their own! Try to use such situations for mutual gain of satisfaction :)
Making a concentrated effort is most important. A discussion such as this may only help create a divide between the old and new players. Ideally old players can share their experience with new players who can bring fresh ideas :)
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Not wrong but may simply be perceived as an 'I was there, you were not there so it was plain better' topic.
Reminiscing is different from saying 'New guys werent there so you do not know what it was like'. Would you like to hear that if you shared a similar opinion elsewhere? New guys bring new opportunities. In fact, some of them are even better with fresh ideas of their own! Try to use such situations for mutual gain of satisfaction :)
Making a concentrated effort is most important. A discussion such as this may only help create a divide between the old and new players. Ideally old players can share their experience with new players who can bring fresh ideas :)
But still, how can someone who wasn't present, understand what we talk about when we say "We want the old scripts back".
I was simply explaining it, in the blunt manner that I explain things in.
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This is the 1000th topic about this subject.. I'm kind of sick of them.
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If RS1 comes back, people will moan: 'BRING RS4 BACK!'
Post Merge: June 02, 2010, 12:26:06 am
Those who wants RS1 back, are probably dinosaurs.
Lol'd.
Post Merge: June 02, 2010, 12:27:16 am
who are you to say this
Your "old-faggot-ness" doesn't change the fact that you're still an irrelevant troll.