For a normal player it takes around 2 minutes to drive from Angel Pine to Los Santos, for an admin it takes over half an hour.true :D
Administrators job is to maintain a calm environment in the server, and you are talking like an admin is on the server to play?,
Administrators job is to maintain a calm environment in the server, and you are talking like an admin is on the server to play?, you took a responsibility to try to maintain a fun environment and if you can not handle new players asking stuff then maybe consider changing?.Just for your information Husky is one of the most reactive and helpful admins.
and if you want to play don't do /on...is it that hard?...people do /admin and then ask one admin that is on the list, they don't try to find "husky"...
If you are tired of being an admin you could always retire and let someone who wants to be an admin do the job.
I bet the guy who wants to help people would do a MUCH better job.
The admins are doing YOU a favour by VOLOUNTEERING to do this job. They make it so that YOU can enjoy your time on the server.
Be grateful they spend as much time as they do moderating everything going on on the server.
They are just like you and me; They're here to have fun. BUT they're willing to do something for the server as a whole, not just sitting around bad guying and moaning about this and about that.
Just for your information Husky is one of the most reactive and helpful admins.That is up to the admins to decide because me and all the other players have no idea how often you get provoked and spammed.
To see him reaching the limit means that we are probably having to become stricter in many things.
Administrators job is to maintain a calm environment in the server, and you are talking like an admin is on the server to play?, you took a responsibility to try to maintain a fun environment and if you can not handle new players asking stuff then maybe consider changing?.
and if you want to play don't do /on...is it that hard?...people do /admin and then ask one admin that is on the list, they don't try to find "husky"...
If you are tired of being an admin you could always retire and let someone who wants to be an admin do the job.
I bet the guy who wants to help people would do a MUCH better job.
As much as how right this topic is, I doubt that many people will take on board the points being presented because when ingame they come to a situation where they think its "critical" that admins must do something, they won't let anything stop them.I think that too, the things whant moderators and Admins can't needs to be said when the server is almost full or something. So everyone knows. You know with the big letters on the screen that everyone listens. Maybe even remove all the vehicles from the game so they accually listen, And they will because they need to walk :lol:
Administrators job is to maintain a calm environment in the server, and you are talking like an admin is on the server to play?, you took a responsibility to try to maintain a fun environment and if you can not handle new players asking stuff then maybe consider changing?.
and if you want to play don't do /on...is it that hard?...people do /admin and then ask one admin that is on the list, they don't try to find "husky"...
If you are tired of being an admin you could always retire and let someone who wants to be an admin do the job.
I bet the guy who wants to help people would do a MUCH better job.
If you want to accuse someone , feel free to accuse me.
but leave husky alone, he's doing the best he can and in my opinion he's succeeding very well.
Whatever a admin does, its never good enough in some people their eyes. I would love to see you as a administrator so you might gain the knowledge that you underestimate the admin job. This isn't a moan topic that he can't handle it, its simply stating the facts.
I myself was VERY close on quitting administratorship. want a few reasons why I didn't?
- I like to help people, eventhough i get lots of moan.
- I like to do something for this community, since this community became my home
And the most important :
- I will NOT give in to those people who moan and say I should quit because they do not agree with my punishments simply because its not in their favour !
Quote:
"and if you want to play don't do /on...is it that hard?"
Your kidding me right? Do you actually think we should do that? I can imagine the moan to get even worse !
Administrators job is to maintain a calm environment in the server, and you are talking like an admin is on the server to play?, you took a responsibility to try to maintain a fun environment and if you can not handle new players asking stuff then maybe consider changing?.Admins have a hard time, you think we should quit if we don't like it and can't take it? Fine. We'll get the whole team to quit, as all of us feel that way at some point. If things work your way, there would be no adminisration team.
and if you want to play don't do /on...is it that hard?...people do /admin and then ask one admin that is on the list, they don't try to find "husky"...
If you are tired of being an admin you could always retire and let someone who wants to be an admin do the job.
I bet the guy who wants to help people would do a MUCH better job.
I've spoken to a few admins/Moderators (ChuckNorris, TheRock, Husky, Dave) and they have all said the same thing.
Hence the reason why I stay quiet IG ;)
Hope this sinks in
Perhaps we need to get admins on in EVERY time zone before we even think about moderators in time zones where admins are already active.
Thing is, there are times in EVERY time zone where an active is not on. Even at peak times.
Administrators job is to maintain a calm environment in the server, and you are talking like an admin is on the server to play?, you took a responsibility to try to maintain a fun environment and if you can not handle new players asking stuff then maybe consider changing?.
and if you want to play don't do /on...is it that hard?...people do /admin and then ask one admin that is on the list, they don't try to find "husky"...
If you are tired of being an admin you could always retire and let someone who wants to be an admin do the job.
I bet the guy who wants to help people would do a MUCH better job.
We are not robots with 8 multi-purpose arms who are there to wipe your asses, we are also players (inb4 'Stfu JDC if you will just moan then why did you even take admin job?!', I'm not complaining, I'm being sarcastic to the moaners). One of our key problems come from people like YOU.Alright, you're right.
You don't know what it's like to be an Argonath mod / admin, so you obviously have no right to talk shit like that about us. We protect your asses on the server and this is what you give us? Treat admins like servants rather than people who help others, and trust me, you will suffer bad consequences.
As for /on, I personally prefer not to use it as to test the reporter's attitude. If he is good, then I'd be happy to help, but if he starts raising a maelstrom and begins to moan about admins, then that's another story. I know we're also obligated to help people who act like that, but we're also responsible for dealing with them when they cross a certain line.
Please sticky this topic.
You obviously can't handle your job, Husky, judging by:
a) Your bitching
b) The lovely little quote you slapped onto the Gvardia topic. Yeah, good one there.
c) Your tempban on me today.
If you're too God-damned stressed over your admin job, do us a favor and just quit.
You obviously can't handle your job, Husky, judging by:This is just real bullshit, Husky does like every other admin what they need to do, They can't control everything, but what do you think?! There are 100-200 Players on a server. Go stand outside in a bussy Mall and try to see what all the people are doing! Being an Admin is a hars job and you should be thankfull for the things they DO And not be Dis-respectfull for the things they (as you say) Don't do.....
a) Your bitching
b) The lovely little quote you slapped onto the Gvardia topic. Yeah, good one there.
c) Your tempban on me today.
If you're too God-damned stressed over your admin job, do us a favor and just quit.
You obviously can't handle your job, Husky, judging by:
a) Your bitching
b) The lovely little quote you slapped onto the Gvardia topic. Yeah, good one there.
c) Your tempban on me today.
If you're too God-damned stressed over your admin job, do us a favor and just quit.
Am I the only one who was accepting of (or indeed, good at intentionally ignoring) the flame I got as admin? I didn't feel stressed out by that at all, I just looked down my nose at them and moved on.You lost more points by being not active enough as by your work...
When I was the only admin on for 110 players once, and I physically did not stop typing for about 3 minutes in one go, that was the best ever.
Man, I liked being admin. But like anything I think I'm good at in my life, apparently I sucked at it and I wasn't good enough. Life lesson learnt I guess - don't try and you can't fail..
Don't judge until you've been an Admin on Argonath.
If you cannot handle being in the administrator team, do not forget that it is a privilege. You can revoke it yourself faster than you invoked it. Stop f**king annoying us and just quit if you want to complain. Please.
Thank you for reading.
Am I the only one who was accepting of (or indeed, good at intentionally ignoring) the flame I got as admin? I didn't feel stressed out by that at all, I just looked down my nose at them and moved on.
Listen here. You administrators must enjoy kicking, warning, or even banning us for "moaning". You better do yourself a favor and quit right now, because you're just as bad.
Do you really want to do this luigi? :)He's just saying what he thinks, what you gonna do? Ban him for that? :lol: For beeing against your ideology?
"Chuck Norris - Look who's talking, adolescent celebrity wanna-be. Your sarcasm's cute too."My apologies, that was uncalled for of me. But you've jumped to a conclusion, which set me off.
Do you really want to do this luigi? :)
If you cannot handle beingin the administrator teama player on this server, do not forget that it is a privilege. You can revoke it yourself faster than you invoked it. Stop f**king annoying us and just quit if you want to complain. Please.
JDC - No, I just can't handle their constant f**king non-stop bitching about how hard their God damn job is, when all they have to do is contact the main admins and say "I quit."
And you have no right to judge my maturity, nor the right to speak period. I don't give a flying f**k how being an admin feels. I repeat, I do not give a flying f**k.
All of you complain (with a countable number of exceptions) of how hard, stressful, and time-constraining the administrator job. Well, I'm sick of it. I've shown enough restraint not letting loose on all of you God-damn whiners. I'm showing restraint right now by not particularly flaming (FYI, JDC).
Stop it. Seriously. No player gives a f**k about how hard your job is. Most players don't give a f**k about being an admin. And many players don't want to be an admin period.
Suck it up, guys. If you can't handle it, then I'll let Aragorn's words echo through my keyboard. "Just resign..."
It's as simple as 1-2-3. "HEY (INSERT NAME HERE), I QUIT BEING AN ADMIN! KTHNX!" But many of you find it easier to just bitch to me and all other players among me. When you do complain about it, you have no idea how much the fire builds up inside me, wanting to say "Shut the f**k up" to every single one of you whiners. Now, because I actually have some respect and know for a fact that saying that won't insult your admin self, but yourself as a whole, I don't say it.
I have no direct social problems with administrators that I know of. But I've plenty with their administrative behavior, particularly their bitching, or as many of you bandwagoners would say, "MOANING".
And I'll repeat once more.
Yea but I got taken down directly from Level 4 to kicked altogether, with no chance of recovering the level of admin again.
Do you even KNOW how easier our job would be WITHOUT people like YOU who treat admins like robots and moan about us doing our job? Like, epicly easier!I'm not an admins, but i agree. Imagne howmuch /report's must come in, And if they are bussy with others they can't look at yours. And that is why i want to apologize to Hwaldar_Richards. Sorry for my burst out, I get it that you couldn't look at my /report but i was a litlle edgy that day ;)
That's some way to treat the people who put in a lot of voluntary work (YES, admins DO NOT get paid OR reimbursed with any cool perks, admin duty is not all fun and cakes) to help the other players in the community and make the server a better place. We help other players and the community because it is one of the ways we contribute to our server, not just for the lulz or the heck of it.
I stated what I stated about your maturity because nearly every single admin / mod has encountered immature moaners who scrutinize us when we are doing our jobs simply because we happened to warn, kick, temp-ban, or ban them in the process, and their actions were the result of sheer immaturity. Many others also go through the same punishments but at least they have the balls to see that they earned their punishments, apologize for their outbursts, and life goes on.
I know that admin duty can be stressful and that it's our choice to resign, but our job would be a lot easier if people like you stopped moaning... I can easily handle day-to-day admin work and routines, along with all the routine flames that come with it, but what really pisses me off is people like you going on the forums and treating admins this way... we are players who also serve as peacemakers, helpers and protectors, not people who are supposed to do every single thing you want at the expense of enforcing the rules.
I'm sorry for the outburst but I just had to post it.
Listen here. You administrators must enjoy kicking, warning, or even banning us for "moaning". You better do yourself a favor and quit right now, because you're just as bad.
All of you complain (with a countable number of exceptions) of how hard, stressful, and time-constraining the administrator job. Well, I'm sick of it. I've shown enough restraint not letting loose on all of you God-damn whiners. I'm showing restraint right now by not particularly flaming (FYI, JDC).
Stop it. Seriously. No player gives a f**k about how hard your job is. Most players don't give a f**k about being an admin. And many players don't want to be an admin period.
If you don't give a f**k about admins, then how about we remove all admins for the weekend (busy) on the server, 150 players with moaners, deathmatchers, and hackers interfering everyone's RP, including yours? We'll get some R&R while you suffer, eh?
Am I the only one who was accepting of (or indeed, good at intentionally ignoring) the flame I got as admin? I didn't feel stressed out by that at all, I just looked down my nose at them and moved on.This post expresses my thoughts on this issue so amazingly well that I am beginning to question why we ever fought, Panda :D
When I was the only admin on for 110 players once, and I physically did not stop typing for about 3 minutes in one go, that was the best ever.
Man, I liked being admin. But like anything I think I'm good at in my life, apparently I sucked at it and I wasn't good enough. Life lesson learnt I guess - don't try and you can't fail..
Giac for Manager! :lol:
You obviously can't handle your job, Husky, judging by:
a) Your bitching
b) The lovely little quote you slapped onto the Gvardia topic. Yeah, good one there.
c) Your tempban on me today.
If you're too God-damned stressed over your admin job, do us a favor and just quit.
Jcs for demote .. Totally doesn't deserve it.Hey I paid $10k for that admin status! :( Do I get a refund?
If you don't give a f**k about admins, then how about we remove all admins for the weekend (busy) on the server, 150 players with moaners, deathmatchers, and hackers interfering everyone's RP, including yours? We'll get some R&R while you suffer, eh?Reread what I said about "I don't give a fuck" and say it again.
It is our job to watch every player, solve every situation, and deal with every rulebreakers on a daily basis. Sure, it gets stressful once in a while, but remember this: We volunteer our spare time, our RP, to make sure you guys enjoy whatever RP you wanted to do. Don't bad guy about that.
:ps: I wonder what CBFasi/ Aragorn has to say about your statement, Luigi, considering what they have went through?
I'll try to re-state Luigi's point in a different way (Please note that I am not trying to introduce any new points). Basically, he is saying that admin work is completely voluntary. Players can choose to take the role or not. So if they find it too stressful and too frustrating then it is frivolous to moan and complain about it to players. This is because they can always resign from their roles, and play as a regular player instead. Luigi understands that admin work is stressful which is why he decides not to take the role. He prefers, however, that admin players who can't handle their work should do the same.Look, we got a smart one!
I can see the point you are trying to make, Luigi. However, the way you expressed it was rather unpolite and unclear. Clearly, after being temp-banned, people would easily misunderstand your points to being simple moaning. If you were aware of these things, then you should've realized that expression is very critical in this thread.
You moaners are sooo sad. You don't understand how much effort, time and patience admins use to keep the server rulebreak free, yet you always throw it back into their face with this kind of shit as displayed by Luigi....And I thought my vision was bad.
Sad, sad people.
Hello dearest fan mister Luigi and other dislikers,I apologized to you for the personal attack and admitted to my wrong-doing, so why are you still fighting me?
Shortened because it was pretty damn long
I'm not fighting, i'm simply defending my view, as you are doing exactly the same.You claim I've attacked you personally (which I did). I apologized for it, yet you're still using it against me.
Do you even know what moaning people like you caused, that almost made Aragorn and CBF leave?Read the God-damned post.
All the effort the admins and owners put into Argonath, and people like you thank us with shitload of moaning for doing our job. Face it, you were in fault, so you got what you deserved. Notice that people like you and Pepe only start moaning about admins after facing punishment at their hands.
I'd like to see you say everything that you said to RON or CBF, and observe what happens to you after.
Read the God-damned post.So..... so sad. That you need to ruinen it for other people. If you're sick and tired of hearing the admins moan.
The point is not the fact that I got tempbanned. I could give two shits about it now. Say one more damn thing about it, and your intelligence will go down the drain.
Look, here's my point in one sentence for people like JDC who just go "loltl;dr":
Administrators... "MOAN" about how hard their job is to players, when quite frankly, they don't want to hear it.
I barely know Aragorn, but based off of one of his quotes ("If you cannot handle the admin job, simply quit...") I can tell he'd agree me if he too understood my statement.
Look, if you aren't going to read my statements, don't argue with me. But here I go again, knowing you aren't going to read this at a chance of 1:5.
I'm not "MOANING" as you'd say. I'm SICK and f**kING TIRED of hearing your GOD DAMN BITCHING about how DAMN HARD your job is. You are disgracing the entire admin team by your complaining. You show you cannot handle such pressure. Now stop whining to players and deal with the job or quit the damn job. This is exactly why I'm not an admin. If I were an admin, I'd be PMS every day due to my low patience level with people, like many admins already are.
If 90% of the admin team was Vince, Argonath's players would have the greatest time of their whole lives in Argonath.
Yes, VINCE! In my opinion, the most honorable, respectful, and BEST administrators Argonath has to offer to me. He's more than "a cop named Vince." He shows respect for EVERYONE and doesn't bitch and bitch and BITCH about how f**king hard his job is.
Vince should be a role model for all admins out there. At least Vince has a higher level of decency than many of you, and yes, even myself.
So..... so sad. That you need to ruinen it for other people. If you're sick and tired of hearing the admins moan.
Quit f*cking playing argonath!.
Moaning is against the rules.
Administrators job is to maintain a calm environment in the server, and you are talking like an admin is on the server to play?, you took a responsibility to try to maintain a fun environment and if you can not handle new players asking stuff then maybe consider changing?.
and if you want to play don't do /on...is it that hard?...people do /admin and then ask one admin that is on the list, they don't try to find "husky"...
If you are tired of being an admin you could always retire and let someone who wants to be an admin do the job.
I bet the guy who wants to help people would do a MUCH better job.
I can see the word 'moan' being blocked by the forum censor in the not so distant future.