Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: KRiBaH on June 10, 2010, 02:58:46 am
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My question is since when there are rules that arent written?
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EXACTLY WHAT I SAID
But NO ONE LISTENS, because NEW PLAYERS, VETERANS, and REGULARS are supposed to know EVERY LITTLE UNWRITTEN CHANGE to a DAMN rule whether it's publicly announced or not.
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Not listening to the orders of an admin is indeed baniable.
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But why should i listen to an admin who says me to move the vehicle spawn and "if you dont move the vehicle spawn, you are ignoring admin, if you ignore admin its rulebreak"
Of course i know that ignoring an admin is rulebreak, but what will it be next? "Dont grow weed or dont use /walk 11 , otherwise you are ignoring admin, and you are rulebreaking"
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"Buy beer or I ban you for not listening to admin."
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Personally I'm not sure a Ban is the right punishment, but this needs to be dealt with. I believe something should be done about this. Surprising I don't see it it too much because some people have common scene, others don't and spawn in the rods. Hopefully something will be done about those mindless fools.
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Personally I'm not sure a Ban is the right punishment, but this needs to be dealt with. I believe something should be done about this. Surprising I don't see it it too much because some people have common scene, others don't and spawn in the rods. Hopefully something will be done about those mindless fools.
Acording to you, im one of those.
But come on, i respect the rules. I have NEVER heard about spawn vehicle at a place is wrong.
Other thing is, since when all rules arent written? If they arent written, they arent rules IMO.
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Common sense now, why would you want to spawn it in the road? Thats going to cause problems.
CBF would go ape shit on stuff like that.
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Common sense now, why would you want to spawn it in the road? Thats going to cause problems.
CBF would go ape shit on stuff like that.
Oh come on! a lot of newbies and even old people of the server park cars in middle of the road and they dont get warned for bad parking or similar........
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Reguardless, if an admin tells you to do something, do it. Don't try and argue about unwritten rules and the whatnot.
They won't tell you to do dumb shitfuck reasons. They would not be an admin if they did.
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Oh come on! a lot of newbies and even old people of the server park cars in middle of the road and they dont get warned for bad parking or similar........
look, I'm thinking about this now. You posted this topic to cause trouble. You spawn your car in the middle of the road? Well your doing that to piss people off, that's it. Sorry Man but I don't want to associate with anyone who does something just to ruin someones day.
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First of all, why would you even WANT to set the car in the middle of the road?
I refer to Jcs' signature.
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Oh come on! a lot of newbies and even old people of the server park cars in middle of the road and they dont get warned for bad parking or similar........
Theres a difference between stopping your car and spawning it in the middle of a road.
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Of course i know that ignoring an admin is rulebreak, but what will it be next? "Dont grow weed or dont use /walk 11 , otherwise you are ignoring admin, and you are rulebreaking"
Indeed yes, if admin tells you something, you obey him. If you have any problem with him, use [email protected], Admins are not monkeys, if they tell you something, its for the good of the server.
Gandalf already said, if you want a server with a rule book of 54654 pages with written crap on it, then argonath is not for you.
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"Buy beer or I ban you for not listening to admin."
There you go again with your crusade against admins. :redface:
People with decent IQ should be able to know what they're supposed to do, from the simple list of core Argonath Rules.
My personal opinion (not verified by anyone else) is that setting a car spawn in the middle of the road, particularly in crowded areas, would cause inconvenience for others in a way, so why not set it on the roof of your house -I want to do that but I can't get my pink caddy up there :cry: - , on the sidewalk, in a parking lot, or inside a bush?
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Essentially one must use common sense. Spawning a car in the middle of the road has no other intention but to be a nuisance to others or try to moan through such topics. Roads are to be used by everyone. You do not decide to make a road your personal parking space and get away with it.
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People with decent IQ should be able to know what they're supposed to do, from the simple list of core Argonath Rules.
IQ =/= Common Sense
IQ =/= Loyalty and obbeyment
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Essentially one must use common sense.
Firstly, why the f**k would you want to spawn your vehicle at the middle of the road :trust:
Cutt3r has reason about the common sense, but since when admins can enforce it?
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Seems like everyone agrees that you SHOULND'T spawn a car in middle of a road.
Why there are so many unwritten rules?
What do you say about parking and blocking a road? Its similar to spawning. Why those dont get punishment?
Instead of a rule id rather think this topic should be ticketable/suspectable but not rulebreaking!
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should be ticketable/suspectable but not rulebreaking!
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and be taken to courts...
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Spawning a car in the road can be taken as a form of inconveniencing others deliberately, especially since you choose the spawn, and hassling others is against the rules, so that's why, I guess.
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Spawning a car in the road can be taken as a form of inconveniencing others deliberately, especially since you choose the spawn, and hassling others is against the rules, so that's why, I guess.
Makes sence...
Another thing:
From admin PM @ image, located at the first page.
"Not all exisitng rules are written" - Then, admins can enforce self-mades rules... They shouldn't, but they can.
Everything that annoy admins is taken as rule breaking, especially cars in the middle of road :roll:.
And if we try saying: No, you're wrong man. - We get punished for moaning :lol: - Which is funny, because we can't do shit.
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Admins are NOT supposed to enforce self-made rules, we are supposed to make judgments on what we can conclude from the basic rules. The act of spawning a car is in possibility of violating at least two rules: hassling / inconveniencing other players and script abuse (since the script is used to hassle)
And don't say that you can't do anything... the owners look at the email, and they don't need to tell you what happens to your complaint. Just because you get no response does not mean no action was taken (assuming the complaint was valid).
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How hard is it to use common sense to understand things?
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As an upholder of British Common Sense (which is the best kind), I'd like to ask who anywhere in the world, parks their car while they are away from it, in the middle of the road. Apart from putting your insurance price through the roof of the Star Tower it would also, as in this case, annoy motorists and in turn annoy you the owner. In the UK it is illegal to park more than 2 foot from the kerb, which is only probably fifty pixels on screen. To quote a funny man, 'if you haven't parked closer to the kerb than 2 foot then you haven't parked at all. You've stopped in traffic and fucked off.'
Ithankyor
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**Removed**
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the amount of intelligent people in the administration team is astonishing
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Admins are NOT supposed to enforce self-made rules, we are supposed to make judgments on what we can conclude from the basic rules. The act of spawning a car is in possibility of violating at least two rules: hassling / inconveniencing other players and script abuse (since the script is used to hassle)
And don't say that you can't do anything... the owners look at the email, and they don't need to tell you what happens to your complaint. Just because you get no response does not mean no action was taken (assuming the complaint was valid).
Makes sense. Then according to that i can /report people who park, or stop their cars in the ROAD.
Correct me if i am wrong.
As an upholder of British Common Sense (which is the best kind), I'd like to ask who anywhere in the world, parks their car while they are away from it, in the middle of the road. Apart from putting your insurance price through the roof of the Star Tower it would also, as in this case, annoy motorists and in turn annoy you the owner. In the UK it is illegal to park more than 2 foot from the kerb, which is only probably fifty pixels on screen. To quote a funny man, 'if you haven't parked closer to the kerb than 2 foot then you haven't parked at all. You've stopped in traffic and f**ked off.'
Ithankyor
Dont compare real life things that happen in a country with the "Real life" of the server.
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I can tell you one thing to be afraid of...
If CBFASI or I find vehicle spawns in the middle of roads then we will simply change your vehicle spawn location to somewhere either very inconvenient or totally inaccessible by foot :lol:
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Seems like everyone agrees that you SHOULND'T spawn a car in middle of a road.
Why there are so many unwritten rules?
What do you say about parking and blocking a road? Its similar to spawning. Why those dont get punishment?
Instead of a rule id rather think this topic should be ticketable/suspectable but not rulebreaking!
So people should /su for a script spawning a persons car right in the way?
I'll go back to doing what I do, towtrucking that badboy somewhere miles away :)
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I can tell you one thing to be afraid of...
If CBFASI or I find vehicle spawns in the middle of roads then we will simply change your vehicle spawn location to somewhere either very inconvenient or totally inaccessible by foot :lol:
Inside admin jail :lol:
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There is a difference between parking your car in the road and setting it in the road to spawn.
Have you not figured that out yet?
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When you park a car it will be removed either by someone else using it, or when you leave the server. Parking is a RP action, and wrong parking could be handled in RP.
Spawning as car is setting the place where it appears every time it is destroyed or you log in. If this is in the middle of a busy road, this causes damage and anooyance to ther players.
You have two options.
1. Accept it when admins ask you something. If in doubt use the "Developers give examples" topic or write a mail.
2. Request a rule, which will be that all cars spawned in a place that hinders others will be removed from the player, without any refund of money.
Your choice.
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When you park a car it will be removed either by someone else using it, or when you leave the server. Parking is a RP action, and wrong parking could be handled in RP.
Spawning as car is setting the place where it appears every time it is destroyed or you log in. If this is in the middle of a busy road, this causes damage and anooyance to ther players.
You have two options.
1. Accept it when admins ask you something. If in doubt use the "Developers give examples" topic or write a mail.
2. Request a rule, which will be that all cars spawned in a place that hinders others will be removed from the player, without any refund of money.
Your choice.
I would request a rule, so new players wont have to deal with this...
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One of the ways to help deal with this problem is for a mapper to use an empty piece of land, such as the parking lot behind the Donut shop in Market, LS or the parking lot behind the 24/7 that's below the Vinewood Sign (and across the road from my house) and place a free, public parking garage. Just like that big one in LV (the one that's next to the Starfish Casino and the Pyramid Casino) or the one near the LV Gym and LV Bomb Shop.
SPACE SERVED FOR PICTURE OF 2nd PARKING GARAGE
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I'd go with accepting after being asked by admins, it's a lot simpler.
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There you go again with your crusade against admins. :redface:
People with decent IQ should be able to know what they're supposed to do, from the simple list of core Argonath Rules.
My personal opinion (not verified by anyone else) is that setting a car spawn in the middle of the road, particularly in crowded areas, would cause inconvenience for others in a way, so why not set it on the roof of your house -I want to do that but I can't get my pink caddy up there :cry: - , on the sidewalk, in a parking lot, or inside a bush?
I was getting Kribah's point across.
And if you think I still got something against admins, go re-read the other topic and pay specific attention to my posts and their intentions.
If you get this wrong.....I don't know what I'll do.
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Common sense now, why would you want to spawn it in the road? Thats going to cause problems.
CBF would go ape shit on stuff like that.
I share the same opinion, why on earth would you want your vehicle to be spawned on the road? I mean, what gives you such idea?
Imagine this scenario: You are late to work, you run out to the parking lot to get your car. You driver out on the main road...and see a Hummer H2 parked on the road, blocking both lanes. Annoying eh? What would you do?