Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: ReZurrecti0n on July 21, 2007, 06:15:16 am
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I've only known the Argonathrpg SAMP server for just a few days & I think this gamemode can be promising, but it does need alot of work first though. I've explored a while & now have interest in helping to improve the server if the admins here approve of course. Now, there has been corruption on the server tonight which some players have found themselves to be "Rich" due to the "Sue" feature on the server. A few hackers by the name of Juan & GodOfWeather have used rocket launchers & mini guns to quickly spawn kill nearly everyone online & although the intentions were to piss players off, the players were enjoying themselves after finding out how rich they're becoming because they kept "Sueing" thier team murders. With about 20 players total online at the time, some have reported to have as much as 200K now if not more after I left the server to come here... This is a serious problem of course, but not by fault of the players who have the cash, but the hackers instead who didn't intend to make them rich until they learned why the players were cheering. You can't expect players to freely throw that cash away, afterall, they haven't really done anything wrong. The "Sue" feature can be kept, but needs to be modifed to prevent abuse along with many other features on the server...
But there is ALOT of problem areas I see that can be improved & instead of simply stating the obvious, I offer to help script it out to greatly improve the gamemode, etc. Example: Bad Cops are extremly annoying, so why not give a warning { Court Marshal or something } for first offense which lasts for maybe an hour or so, then if that cop kills another cop again within that time, removed from the force and released to be civilizian for maybe the next hour. Meaning they cant be a cop until at least one hour passes, etc. Maybe more than just one warning because accidents do happen, but can iron out details another time.
Spawning with NO vehicles in area will chase players away from server or in this case, to the cop class. Ever wonder why EVERYONE wants to be a cop? lol Yea... Not to mention they spawn with weapons also. Gotta fix & alter car spawns in some way, all depends on whats on the gamemode though. But the idea is to set some way to make a vehicle availible to ALL class spawns, there are several ways of dealing with this problem though, even ways that invovle no extra car spawns...
Cop Abuse & there's alot of it, can't always depend on the admins, the server needs to take SOME action alone. Example being: Maybe nobody should be able to start off as a cop, but must earn it in game. Go apply at PD or something and pass ONLY if you meet certain requirements: Drivers License, Job Exp, Resident Long Enough, etc.
Either that or allow the other officers to be able vote out the "Bad Cops". Of course that can also be abused... Also, alot of some features like time, day, week, month etc. which also means the cycle of day/night. Its RPG, should come in real handy then, stores open only on mon-fri between 7am-10pm for example. On server time, not real time :P
There are alot more things to point out, but can only take on one problem at a time, I intend to cure these, so I'll have to go apply for admin & that sorta thing now...
But please, post any comments at all about this post :)
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You are totally right.
On the moment the scripters of this server are working hard ( I hope :lol:, nah they are. ) on a big Server update.
Probably a large things will be fixed then, especially the abuse and dm factor makes Argonath Server a real struggle for RP'ers.
Not that other RP servers are better, but still you cant really RP on Argonath.
I'm not blaming the scripters for this :), but there are a few things that need to be solved, just like you noted.
We might see a big difference when the new script is released, as far as I heard we are close to a release, and I think they've started out with fixing the most enjoying things the server has to coop with.
I hope they will.......:D
New Script Ideas: http://www.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?board=49.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?board=49.0)
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I'm just going to post some ideal RPG ideas & hope for enough responses so I know which ideas are good & which ones to trash, etc.
All starting classes should be normal Citizens which forces the player to work towards becoming whatever they desire: Gang, Cop, Taxi or whatever special classes availible. To join the Grove Street Gang for example, players wouldn't have to do much, just prove thier loyality or something. On the other hand, to become a cop it would be much more difficult which firstly requires a few conditions. This would certainly solve the cop abuse problem, but of course more measures still need to be taken in case of bad cops, but will now be RPed out instead of random DM. Also in order to join Swat, FBI or even Army you'll need a good record & experience as a cop first, so if any player makes it to the army, they are less likely to abuse the use of hydras, etc. Other jobs would also be made availible to the normal citizen class: Trashman, Construction Worker, Bus-Taxi-Limo Driver, Pilot, Mechinac & alot of other small jobs just like that...
Upon starting the server, nobody should be able to see the location of others on the radar map except maybe for certain reasons/events. Example: Lets say someone stole a car with a tracking device, this would make it much more difficult to evade the police because they would see you on radar. So the only way to go invisible on radar again is to disable the tracker or leave the vehicle... But of course if up close to someone you'll still be able to see thier names and ids so you can identify them which is extremly important in any RPG. If someone jacks your car for example, call the police and give the name/id which would be the description in "RP".
ALSO: If the police suspect you and stay within range, you'll show up on radar to ALL police...
You'll go off radar IF you get away far enough until either they find you again or you lose them
Criminals risk everything if caught or killed by any type of officer as they would lose thier current money if they're charged with any kind of robbery otherwise still lose some cash due to fines. Jail time if the crime was a felony & that will make players think twice about getting trouble with the law all the time too. However, jail breaks would be possible if he/she knows the right players with such abilities. So it's not a total loss, but still the risk of losing alot of cash. Wreckless driving for example though would only risk being fined for small amounts of cash if caught by a cop... Unless that player decides to try and evade the police by NOT pulling over, heh.
Well thats enough for now, going to go play the server a bit more :P
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We are going to tackle some of the things you metioned, but it will probably still be possible to get a little rich on hackers.
While designing the first script, we took a ready SA:MP script and edited to fit our ideas better. This time we are taking our experience from this script and the MTA ones and combine them in to a custom written script.
The new scripts will include some systems that will control the server better.
A system of experience levels is still against our ideas. We feel that all players, new or existing, should have the same chances and be able to enjoy the same play. What we do still need is tou build better our admin team, and a lot of suppport from our experienced players. Instead of just being a user, we want them to contribute and in this way try to teach new players the RP. This is hard, I know, but we have a lot of regulars that started out as pure Dmer.
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Ah, alright then... I guess my best interest would to start designing from scratch then
But for now, guess I'll explore a bit more of the server before I get back into scripting/programming again