Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: [ttt]Zodiac on September 11, 2010, 06:49:26 am
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What do you think? :?:
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It's hope for change. BIG change. MASSIVE change.
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Uhm it happend already?
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I didn't like it. It made the server very boring.
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Please Vote
The vote options suck.
No offense to the OP.
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It's hope for change. BIG change. MASSIVE change.
I'd suck your balls if anything happens.
Except that day of course.
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Before you complain about it....
Imagine that 3000+ people who died in 9/11 wished they could participate in this no-crime day - that might change your perspective.
We're just doing something in respect to 'em.
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Before you complain about it....
Imagine that 3000+ people who died in 9/11 wished they could participate in this no-crime day - that might change your perspective.
We're just doing something in respect to 'em.
Respecting them is good. But I'd like to remind you that millions and millions and millions people have died in history on 11-09, 12-09, 13-09, 14-09...
Do you think about them too? No, otherwise you would've said a million+.
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Respecting them is good. But I'd like to remind you that millions and millions and millions people have died in history on 11-09, 12-09, 13-09, 14-09...
Do you think about them too? No, otherwise you would've said a million+.
I said +3000 because it's alot - although I had no idea on how many people died exacly - but if you say it was millions, I believe so...
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I said +3000 because it's alot - although I had no idea on how many people died exacly - but if you say it was millions, I believe so...
You're only thinking about 2001.
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Whilst I condemn the 9/11 attacks - it's clear there are many contrasting convictions on the subject. From what has been described, participation in this event is optional and not compulsory. Despite this people are being warned in the form of global messages not to become suspects or risk being banned. Whilst one sided, people who choose not to participate are being 'steered' towards an agreement for which they have not agreed to. Personally, I think the event has been misunderstood by moderators/admins in which its intended impact may have been foreseen. Subsequently, we have many confused and bewildered players seeking clarification around this event. From what I understand, it is at the discretion of the player whether they choose to participate or not.
Please clarify whether participation is optional or compulsory.
Generally speaking, please remember, whilst it's important to respect others views, we should not enforce our will / beliefs onto others despite our confidence of what we put our faith in is right. Argonath is a global community spanning many countries respresenting distinct traditions, cultures and views - healthy discussion and conflict is always to be expected and we should do our part in accommodating and facilitating such conversation. :)
In all, I encourage all to participate in this event and keep crime to a absolute minimal. However I stress, that this process is a two way communication and there is a expectation of mutual understanding at all times.
Don Henley-New York Minute (Lyrics On Screen) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqSqe3FOw5k#)
I hope to see respectful events in game to reflect the tragic events that unfolded on 9/11.
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I dont like this thing
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This No Crimnal day Sucks i got ban for a joke -.-
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Respecting them is good. But I'd like to remind you that millions and millions and millions people have died in history on 11-09, 12-09, 13-09, 14-09...
Do you think about them too? No, otherwise you would've said a million+.
+1
And i got ban for a joke in 2010-09-11 beacuse i said lets take a plane and hit s tower that was a joke but all peaple in rl joke about Hitler and Saddam they kill million peaple do anyone care about them? Same shit
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I think its a good idea, Nice one too.
It will also show who on the server can't role play without killing and using guns.
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Good, but I just have to agree with the boring thing.
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You're only thinking about 2001.
ok
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Agree with Dtlove
Let's see who can roleplay and have fun without killing and having crimes
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This No Crimnal day Sucks i got ban for a joke -.-
No....You wern't ban for a joke, You were ban for being a sick little disrespectful child. Not one thing was funny about what you did.
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i got frowned on for saying a soviet russia joke... i'm not gonna be like "oh how rude to joke about the past O-o" lol
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And i got ban for a joke in 2010-09-11 beacuse i said lets take a plane and hit s tower that was a joke but all peaple in rl joke about Hitler and Saddam they kill million peaple do anyone care about them? Same shit
You are fucking retarded. No one goes "Hey, let's create an army and kill billions of people because they don't look like us! And send them to concentration camps! We might as well burn them in furnaces!" as a joke. Want to make a joke about an traumatizing event? Keep it to yourself.
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You are f**king retarded. No one goes "Hey, let's create an army and kill billions of people because they don't look like us! And send them to concentration camps! We might as well burn them in furnaces!" as a joke. Want to make a joke about an traumatizing event? Keep it to yourself.
That was a fucking Joke Cmon this is a game -.-
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That was a f**king Joke Cmon this is a game -.-
I don't give a shit if it was a joke or not, it's uncalled for and inappropriate. This is a community with real people with real feelings - for all you know, one of them could have been a victim. Little children like you do not belong here.
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I don't give a shit if it was a joke or not, it's uncalled for and inappropriate. This is a community with real people with real feelings - for all you know, one of them could have been a victim. Little children like you do not belong here.
Stop Be hero That was a joke and you think you are Obama or something dont play hero
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Hevar! FFS.
I for one don't see the funny side in what you did, As CBF didn't, Which is the cause of your ban.
Would you find it funny if your parents died in an accident and I went and try'd to rein-act it as a "joke"? Would you?
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Hevar! FFS.
I for one don't see the funny side in what you did, As CBF didn't, Which is the cause of your ban.
Would you find it funny if your parents died in an accident and I went and try'd to rein-act it as a "joke"? Would you?
No :(
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Stop Be hero That was a joke and you think you are Obama or something dont play hero
Be a hero? Obama? I guess you really are retarded after all.
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Stop Be hero That was a joke and you think you are Obama or something dont play hero
Grow up. Anyway Cane isn't even an American for god sakes and now most people in America especially in political positions are beginning to hate Obama and the Democrats are losing the House and maybe the Senate to the republicans. I as an American hate Obama and feel he is a terrible President; i prefer FDR for he is my personal favorite.
On the contrary i hope everyone role plays decently with each other and has some fun. We do not need to kill each other to have fun. We can simply Role play. We are apart of the same community its time for everyone to understand that and show some respect to one another. Have FUN.
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You're only thinking about 2001.
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+1
And i got ban for a joke in 2010-09-11 beacuse i said lets take a plane and hit s tower that was a joke but all peaple in rl joke about Hitler and Saddam they kill million peaple do anyone care about them? Same shit
Hitler didn't kill millions. The Nazis did.
Saddam didn't kill millions of people. His hoes did.
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I think it was good because the first day (while it was 9/11 in europe/asia) admins really enforced it. now it is 9/11 in USA and I see almost no enforcing compared to yesterday. Yesterday was alot of fun because abuse from freecops/cops was really down, now today is even worse than a normal day.
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I dont like this thing
This No Crimnal day Sucks i got ban for a joke -.-
+1
And i got ban for a joke in 2010-09-11 beacuse i said lets take a plane and hit s tower that was a joke but all peaple in rl joke about Hitler and Saddam they kill million peaple do anyone care about them? Same shit
Good, but I just have to agree with the boring thing.
That was a f**king Joke Cmon this is a game -.-
You f**king people make me sick. You can't even go one f**king day without becoming an orange name? You can't go through one day of crime to honor the men, women and children who died on this day.
ESPECIALLY YOU HEVAR WTF??
I am muslim as well but I hate the people who did this. I hate the fucking terrorists who did this to the country I live in. They disgraced the religion I practice. You Hevar are a disgrace for making a stupid joke about this. Fuck off
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You f**king people make me sick. You can't even go one f**king day without becoming an orange name? You can't go through one day of crime to honor the men, women and children who died on this day.
ESPECIALLY YOU HEVAR WTF??
I am muslim as well but I hate the people who did this. I hate the f**king terrorists who did this to the country I live in. They disgraced the religion I practice. You Hevar are a disgrace for making a stupid joke about this. f**k off
How fuck can i know all peaple will be angry about this joke i just got boring and want to say a joke and i got ban -.-
But I AM SORRY
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to shift the focus of this rage i am going to tell my joke again
"In Soviet Russia, Towers hit planes on the news"
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It was a good day & a nice idea , and we really enjoyed it , really.
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Think about if these people were relatives of you, how you would feel then?
If you can comment on this like some people did, you just don't have a soul...
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Whilst I share much sympathy towards the 'traumatized' family's involved in the horrific acts of 9/11 subsequently I feel the event in particular was not a success and should not be carried out again.
My prospective of Argonath RPG on said day, is that it ceased to be the Argonath RPG I was familiar with.
To my belief, Argonath RPG is supposed to be a corrupt country where crime is high, this is how it is regarded officially on the communal website.
In regards to the 9/11 atrocities, I feel the idea of only thinking of the 3000 lost and putting the day in there honour rather then in the honour to all.
The high amounts of civilians killed in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, is truly disgusting. The majority of civilians seriously injured / kill are the fault of physical actions such as unmanned aircraft bomb dropped by US and allied forces and general lack of co-operation and knowledge.
Iraqi civilians killed 864,531
Iraqi civilians seriously injured 1,556,156
Afghan civilians killed 8,813
Afghan civilians seriously injured 15,863
Rough estimation for Pakistan (Killed): At-least 1,400
Rough estimation for Pakistan (seriously injured): At-least 3000
It is vital that everyone knows and as current members of a community must agree it is wrong to force your opinions, views and beliefs onto others. These core values were ignored with the acceptance and pursuit of this event.
The act of forcing and degrading members of the community who did not agree or conform to the agreements carried out by some on this day is seriously concerning.
The server administration seemed not to be informed of the rules of this event, or did they know how to act, and thus misunderstood the event for a forced set of rules.
There will always be a need for healthy debate and discussion, and more should be done to accommodate this, and it should not be regarded as "MOANING".
I personally feel there should be continued respect for others, but I cannot say of how much importance it is for better understanding and beliefs and opinions of all party's, this can be done by community lead projects with the support and understanding of other members and administrators.
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What about the pilots that crashed into the towers? Why won't anyone feel sorry for them?
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For the first few hours it was okay, when /su was disabled. but then I left and came back on, and Cops were chasing criminals, a guy got suspected for 'he hitted me' and regular day stuff, there was also a 207 in the last hour of it, so the point of the day was kinda destroyed.
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Whilst I share much sympathy towards the 'traumatized' family's involved in the horrific acts of 9/11 subsequently I feel the event in particular was not a success and should not be carried out again.
My prospective of Argonath RPG on said day, is that it ceased to be the Argonath RPG I was familiar with.
To my belief, Argonath RPG is supposed to be a corrupt country where crime is high, this is how it is regarded officially on the communal website.
In regards to the 9/11 atrocities, I feel the idea of only thinking of the 3000 lost and putting the day in there honour rather then in the honour to all.
The high amounts of civilians killed in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, is truly disgusting. The majority of civilians seriously injured / kill are the fault of physical actions such as unmanned aircraft bomb dropped by US and allied forces and general lack of co-operation and knowledge.
Iraqi civilians killed 864,531
Iraqi civilians seriously injured 1,556,156
Afghan civilians killed 8,813
Afghan civilians seriously injured 15,863
Rough estimation for Pakistan (Killed): At-least 1,400
Rough estimation for Pakistan (seriously injured): At-least 3000
It is vital that everyone knows and as current members of a community must agree it is wrong to force your opinions, views and beliefs onto others. These core values were ignored with the acceptance and pursuit of this event.
The act of forcing and degrading members of the community who did not agree or conform to the agreements carried out by some on this day is seriously concerning.
The server administration seemed not to be informed of the rules of this event, or did they know how to act, and thus misunderstood the event for a forced set of rules.
There will always be a need for healthy debate and discussion, and more should be done to accommodate this, and it should not be regarded as "MOANING".
I personally feel there should be continued respect for others, but I cannot say of how much importance it is for better understanding and beliefs and opinions of all party's, this can be done by community lead projects with the support and understanding of other members and administrators.
if this is you saying "they killed 3000, look what america killed" i totally agree, whoopdeedoo america lost 3000 people... not an excuse to go and have a war
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I couldn't be on the server at the crime free day. But I think it is good to have such a day once in a while. It can help make people see that non police-criminal RP is also fun. You really want to do this police-criminal RP, then just skip this one day and have fun the next day. But I hope those people took this chance as an opportunity to RP one time with the people who are normally their opponents (and only seen in shootouts). Maybe it will help next time to respect each other more and get some good police-criminal RP's..
Anyways, I hope to see this day back next year. :)
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woah Curse that is honestly pretty off topic and this is not about bashing americans/soldiers, it was just about honoring the dead. You werent informed? it was on the forums. for a long time. politics probably dont belong here : ) you're just going to provoke everyone into a fight.
I think no crime day was still good though, atleast half an hour I didnt get suspected for stupid shit. it was fun to play like that, that and the cops that were still on duty were atleast fair. sometimes its nice to have alot of people as civilian. the server can change the way it operates for ONE (and maybe 1/2) day, it is not going to ruin your life, if anyone needs a cooldown, its you lol
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woah Curse that is honestly pretty off topic and this is not about bashing americans/soldiers, it was just about honoring the dead. You werent informed? it was on the forums. for a long time. politics probably dont belong here : ) you're just going to provoke everyone into a fight.
I think no crime day was still good though, atleast half an hour I didnt get suspected for stupid shit. it was fun to play like that, that and the cops that were still on duty were atleast fair. sometimes its nice to have alot of people as civilian. the server can change the way it operates for ONE (and maybe 1/2) day, it is not going to ruin your life, if anyone needs a cooldown, its you lol
I feel you have completely misinterpreted my statement.
I have been posting before the day had even started with concerns, and those concerns definably came true.
My post was not intended to put the blame on "Americans", it was written to show there are still many more who have fallen as a result of the 9/11 atrocities which lead to two wars, 1 which has officially been labelled Il-legal, the other one which is believed to have been lost.
Over a million people have died. Why not remember and honour them?
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Including US soldiers and civilians, Curse. Why don't you have the amounts of US civilians and soldiers who died fighting for this as well?
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Also curse, just to correct you, "Iraq War" is NOT a war. We are not in wartime in America. It is a conflict unless the congress declares war. Vietnam was not a war, Im pretty sure korea was not a war as well. It is really the media that put the war label on it to make it more intense/scary/make them more $$
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Also curse, just to correct you, "Iraq War" is NOT a war. We are not in wartime in America. It is a conflict unless the congress declares war. Vietnam was not a war, Im pretty sure korea was not a war as well. It is really the media that put the war label on it to make it more intense/scary/make them more $$
President Bush: We are now at war with Iraq.
I remember those words as if it was yesterday.
And Vince, they chose to fight, and I have no sympathy for someone who just mans a drone in Washington which drops a bomb on some Pakistani children because there skin colour is a shade of brown.
/thread.
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Looking a Dan's comment earlier it lead me to think, Is he completely retarded??
Yes, America lost 3000 people, Thats a fucking good excuse to go to war, Its the plain stupid actions of several individuals led by religion which caused those 3000 people to die.
America and co has every fucking right to be pissed of and go to way in my eyes.
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Looking a Dan's comment earlier it lead me to think, Is he completely retarded??
Yes, America lost 3000 people, Thats a f**king good excuse to go to war, Its the plain stupid actions of several individuals led by religion which caused those 3000 people to die.
America and co has every f**king right to be pissed of and go to way in my eyes.
So killing over a million people is justifiable?
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I make my own vote option: Crime free day every saturday.
Players were generally way more nice when this day came (way less moaning etc). Way way more nice. If players were this nice everyday then surely this server and community would enjoy eachother so much more. And respect eachother.
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So killing over a million people is justifiable?
Think of it like this:
Someone killed your family, You would like to do the same to their family, Even if it was the extreme minority.
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Such a shame to see that even MODERATORS were suspected on that day..
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(curse since you have such a strong passion for this, maybe you should start a blog and just rant and rant on there instead of on here! btw, if someone can hide his posts, that would be helpful, they're pretty rude. ) So sad to see you have no sympathy for the people who come from low-income familys that cant afford to go to college, so they look to the army as a way to pay for college and to have a good life. The people who have been in real war, they dont talk about it. They dont gloat about it. I dont know who is feeding you these stories, but they must have never been in real combat.
Yeah I agree alot about the fact that there was WAY less moaning. Everyone really seemed to enjoy it much more and there was alot of interaction between civillians (like RPing) then I normally see. I vote for crime free saturdays : ) or maybe tuesdays, tuesdays are pretty heavy.
btw I looked up MANY sources (including our local newspaper) and the death count for Iraqi civillians who have died from the CONFLICT (including the ones suicide-bombed from their own countrymen) was never more than 150,000. Wikipedia is not a reliable resource
If the server is different for just one day, that will not kill you
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This "crime free day" was just a guilt free pass for DMers/Criminals to do whatever the F they want and get unsuspected anyway. I saw so many people who've been playing for over a year atleast commiting crimes and killing people, next thing to do is whine in /p "Unsus, it's crime free day!"... My opinion, have some ceremony and let people decide wether to participate or not. Forcing people to do not commit any crime all day is simply not going to work. Everyone wants to show his/her respect about 9/11 in their own way, can't force them to do it "your" way. As for what Hidduh said, yes it's definately a shame (But that's not only at that day, way more often then that ; ) ).
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Think of it like this:
Someone killed your family, You would like to do the same to their family, Even if it was the extreme minority.
wow your just a psychopath xD
if someone killed your family, you would go after the 1 person, not their family because u know your family was innocent, so why do that to more innocent people... **murmurs to self** "crazy mass murderer idea"
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The thing is guys, what's the point of having a no criminal day in a game
If you really want to give Love and respect to the victims
why not just turn your computer off, go to the cemetery, or a Church (Whatever your religion is) and pray for them.
Well... that's only my opinion, and this is what I did on that day.
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Stop moaning on what happened or not, I don't call everything moaning. But it's only for a day, If you DONT like to attend it, go to a cops and robbers server instead where you are welcomed for your acts as a suspect. Why didn't you just sell hotdogs, roleplay a good guy and etcetera. It's point of Interaction between players as a normal civilian and to honour the murdered.
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(curse since you have such a strong passion for this, maybe you should start a blog and just rant and rant on there instead of on here! btw, if someone can hide his posts, that would be helpful, they're pretty rude. ) So sad to see you have no sympathy for the people who come from low-income familys that cant afford to go to college, so they look to the army as a way to pay for college and to have a good life. The people who have been in real war, they dont talk about it. They dont gloat about it. I dont know who is feeding you these stories, but they must have never been in real combat.
Yeah I agree alot about the fact that there was WAY less moaning. Everyone really seemed to enjoy it much more and there was alot of interaction between civillians (like RPing) then I normally see. I vote for crime free saturdays : ) or maybe tuesdays, tuesdays are pretty heavy.
btw I looked up MANY sources (including our local newspaper) and the death count for Iraqi civillians who have died from the CONFLICT (including the ones suicide-bombed from their own countrymen) was never more than 150,000. Wikipedia is not a reliable resource
If the server is different for just one day, that will not kill you
Dear Quoted.
I would like to inform you this is a discussion thread regarding the subject No Criminal day.
I would also like to inform you that what you have posted regarding myself is complete bullshit.
You must know I have the equal right as everyone else in these forums to voice my opinions and views, furthermore, who the hell are you to continuously harass me and disrespect me.
It is to my belief you are the number 1 fan of Kim Jong Il, amirite?
You do not respect my freedoms?
You do not respect equality?
I ponder and doubt, If I should be considering using if in the following sentence, but here goes anyway. If the above questions are answered with agreement (yes incase you do not understand) then you should fly off to North Korea and continue to rant about yours truly. If you are not aware - I presume you are not; I was speaking with sarcasm just in the last sentence.
Seeing as the discussion thread has quickly moved onto the sub subject of moaning Ill post my opinion.
I can confirm and assure you there were less moaning, but this could have been down to bewildered members of the community constantly asking questions instead.
I feel forcing views, opinions and beliefs onto others is totally wrong, this is why I was not in favour of said event. No not because I apparently do not respect Americans or the 3000 dead, but because of multiple reasons which I shall say again.
I suggest and hope more then the 3000 people massacred in 9/11, mainly civilians killed in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan should be remembered if the aforementioned days of which a crime free day is suggested Tuesday / Saturday etc.
Miss Laruen Jong Il, please do not continue to post complete and utter rubbish regarding me.
P.S. Please excuse my lack of punctuation
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i think the only thing that could have been done better on no crime day was just that it seemed like new players didn't really get what was going on and they could have used more guidance in the way of PMs or conversation with administration
ps: my son and i had a very good time at disney land, you will have to join us next time i let you out of the labor camp
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