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Community => News and Announcements => Topic started by: rJCaiG on July 24, 2007, 10:18:43 am

Title: SA-MP was down... but they are BACK!
Post by: rJCaiG on July 24, 2007, 10:18:43 am
We had a nice time, but I guess the SA-MP developers are assholes..
www.sa-mp.com
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Niitro on July 24, 2007, 10:28:36 am
But wee still will be able to play on Argonath ... ???
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Karl on July 24, 2007, 10:29:05 am
its more good bye samp and argonath...  :wow: :(

* The master server is shutdown, along with forums, the chatroom, etc.
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Aragorn on July 24, 2007, 10:29:44 am
Yes you are able to play servers that are in your favorites...
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: BiteMe on July 24, 2007, 10:30:55 am
Yes you are able to play servers that are in your favorites...

Oh thank god.. :)
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Karl on July 24, 2007, 10:31:15 am
OMG yes yes yes im so happy
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Niitro on July 24, 2007, 10:31:44 am
Put Argonath in Favorites ... :D
Everyone Add to favorites this : 89.149.196.238:7777
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Aragorn on July 24, 2007, 10:34:32 am
http://www.game-monitor.com/GameSearch/sa-mp/San_Andreas_Multiplayer.html

You can add any server from this list...
So actually in your favorites you can "duplicate" all master list...

Link fixed
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Obi1 on July 24, 2007, 10:36:33 am
well we can still play Argonath :)
Title: SA-MP was down... but they are BACK!
Post by: Gandalf on July 24, 2007, 10:38:11 am
Incredible news from SA-MP today:
http://www.sa-mp.com (http://www.sa-mp.com)

San Andreas Multiplayer, aka SA-MP, was shutdown on the 24th of July 2007.

The SA-MP development team was not interested in further developing this mod as groups of people were dedicating themselves to destroying it.

The amount of work required to keep this mod in a playable state while they try to crash servers, develop exploits without following proper disclosure guidelines, accuse the team of not doing our part (especially when most of our network security related issues stem from other 3rd party libraries) have been demotivating and unnecessary for the team to handle.

Hackers did not fear any legal action from attacking the SA-MP game servers, as we are not officially backed by the developers of the game nor do we have any financial resources to fight back legally.

We apologise to our supporters for having to take this extreme action. It was alot of fun while it lasted. Perhaps... we'll meet again in another game, another time.

Argonath RPG will not stop our SA:MP server, and continue to develop the scripts.  By adding the server to your favourites (see our server list) you will stil be able to play.

We urge everyone to write to the SA-MP team that they should not let hackers get the better of them. If needed we will support any legal actions, and we will take full legal action against any hacker who tries to attack us.
We request of all of our players to try and convince the SA:MP team to continue their work, and we offer to take it upon us to lead the project and to combine efforts of all SA:MP servers to defeat the attackers.

At the same time we will be looking out and speed up developments for new servers and projects.

Those who are with Argonath from the beginning know that we were attacked, crashed and flamed a lot and this has always lead to Argonath getting stronger and better. SA:MP might give up the fight, but Argonath will not.

To write the SA:MP team: team (at) sa-mp.com
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 10:38:52 am
2004 - 2007
Rest In Peace
:neutral:
Okay... but we still got argonath...
Fauckin Fug TroyFuck007 fucked all stupid n00b (sorry for flame, but its true!)
But argonath will have less players, because no master server list and some ppl dont check game monitors
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Gandalf on July 24, 2007, 10:41:01 am
All players of SA:MP should the SA:MP team that they should continue.
We will continue with out server, and maybe add some.
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Specter on July 24, 2007, 10:42:23 am
 we are the best server eva(http://www.smiliegenerator.de/s33/smilies-3039.png)(http://www.smiliegenerator.de/s33/smilies-3043.png)
 :ps: Now there will be more attackers we need a better administrative team...
Title: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 10:44:03 am
Fucking assholes. Samp master list down is THEIR fault. stupid noobs!
I will crash that fucking bust3d, i mean that. I am pissed.
Fuck TroyNoob007 and Bust3d. They ruined best MP in world...
And why do samp devs give up so fast?
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: lionz on July 24, 2007, 10:44:48 am
Please continue, you have done so well dont let hackers get the better of you. Admins can take care of that i know they will, just dont quit :( its the best server i only play Argonath RPG VC and Argonath RPG 0.2 SA:MP i love your server :) and a lot others do too, or else they wouldnt be coming back. Dont stop, its a great server
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Obi1 on July 24, 2007, 10:45:30 am
that's really pissed me off lol i was just making a new script and then sa-mp shut down oh well... :neutral:
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 10:45:53 am
Shithead hackers... fack bust3d and sampfacks
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: T r o j a n TM on July 24, 2007, 10:48:05 am
We had a nice time, but I guess the SA-MP developers are assholes..
No, they are just pissed, it's not the developers that are assholes...

Quote from: SA-MP
'Hackers did not fear any legal action from attacking the SA-MP game servers, as we are not officially backed by the developers of the game nor do we have any financial resources to fight back legally. '
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: RobbyMeister on July 24, 2007, 10:48:24 am
I did read this just before checking Argonath's website. This is so sick.. just sick, and nothing more. The first thing: the fucking hackers that wants to destroy what a hardworking team is doing for FREE. Destroy something that costs money instead, they can earn money at it at least. The SA:MP-team has been working to do something availabe for everyone, so it's sick that people wants to destroy it. The other thing: I don't understand why the team wants to quit, when they can do something about the hackers instead. As i said, the hackers are nothing but idiots, but the team can still do something about them. No hackers have attacked the SA:MP-servers since the beginning of 0.2 (what i know), and the SA:MP-team did something about it by releasing 0.2.1. So they have the skills and knowledge to do something about it. Why quit so suddenly?

I will write to them, but as the master server with forums, website and everything is shutdown, i don't know where to write. Please someone, give me information about that.

I think it's a shame that it's not the 1st of April today.
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 10:48:48 am
I hope Argonath devs have some contracts, so they could shut bust3d. If no SAMP - NO bust3d.
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Justin on July 24, 2007, 10:49:09 am
This can't be true.  :( Everthing was going fine!
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Obi1 on July 24, 2007, 10:51:07 am
Good speech Gandlaf you are right we will not give up!! ARGONATH ARGONATH ARGONATH!!!!

 :ps: argonath members--> :war: :war:  :flame:<---hackers
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Gandalf on July 24, 2007, 10:53:36 am
All players of SA:MP should the SA:MP team that they should continue.
We will continue with out OUR server, and maybe add some.
OOPS  :rofl:
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 10:53:49 am
Umm guys. it will be a very good idea if we can, Is it possible to modify the samp server browser and make it so it retrieves a server list from Us. and if it is possible, who is willing to do it. please PM me if interested, there will be rewards.
Atleast something. But that kind of idea would need editing SA:MP browser code...
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Hess on July 24, 2007, 10:54:13 am
Well, i they better well do a good job when GTA IV comes online... :neutral:

That will be awesome to RP in!!!

*starts dreaming about RP in New York*
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 10:54:46 am
Lets flame troyrtuls and i send him the link...
http://www.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=5934.msg57528#new
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: T r o j a n TM on July 24, 2007, 10:54:56 am
We will cope :) we all have the latest version of SA-MP available to download on the web site and the Argonath RPG SA-MP server will soldier on. ;)
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Aragorn on July 24, 2007, 10:54:59 am
No, they are just pissed, it's not the developers that are assholes...

They are just pissed and shut down all work??? ROFL
Nah, that is a fault of SA:MP team, and not hackers...
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: T r o j a n TM on July 24, 2007, 10:56:41 am
They are just pissed and shut down all work??? ROFL
Nah, that is a fault of SA:MP team, and not hackers...
If the work gets destroyed and constantly abused then it's a different story.
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: T r o j a n TM on July 24, 2007, 10:57:38 am
Calm down. :conf:

Chill. :cool:
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: WDoyle on July 24, 2007, 10:57:47 am
the fucking bastards im sorry for alnauage but wdf have they done and has anyone got there emails ill send a large email in.

i thing we should do a petetion
it may be small but it might help
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 10:59:28 am
I cant. Argonath will lose popularity because of that now...
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: T r o j a n TM on July 24, 2007, 11:01:31 am
I cant. Argonath will lose popularity because of that now...
Argonath's popularity doesn't matter that much to me and I'm sure it doesn't matter that much to anybody else. It's about keeping this great community and I'm not going nowhere and I'm also sure that no one else will be going anywhere. ;)
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: rJCaiG on July 24, 2007, 11:03:06 am
I will crash that fucking bust3d, i mean that. I am pissed.

Erm, sorry to burst your bubble, but that is hacking, and you can be put in jail for it..
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 11:05:11 am
Erm, sorry to burst your bubble, but that is hacking, and you can be put in jail for it..
I didnt mean it really.
Posted on: 24-07-2007, 13:04:12
I can send a email to their provider for leaking porn site codes, warez, uncopyrighted stuff etc
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Aragorn on July 24, 2007, 11:05:24 am
I think it is a problem inside SA:MP team and not outside...
Also do not forget they are students and have no clue about internet Laws that can start work under professional hands...

Probably we'll add deathmatch server as well so people can have more possibilities with the servers that are only in favorites...

But...

We were fighting hackers one year as soon as we started... We had MUCH bigger attacks then what was this three days on SA:MP... And did we give up???

SA:MP made a mistake... As students they made a team of students and teenagers... When the more older and experienced in real life laws people could support them (for free) and help to bust hackers...

Also they have a mistaken opinion, that they have no rights on protection cos Rockstar Games is against such "mods" like MTA and SA:MP... But they did not understand why Rockstar Games did not shut them down all this time ;)...

So it is a problem of SA:MP team:
1. Fight inside team (I am sure)
2. No knowledges about internet laws...
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 11:08:29 am
Aragorn, ur adult... So sue hackers and pwn them, so maybe samp dev team will think its worth to start again. Yeah i belive some fights inside the team too
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: tiderman on July 24, 2007, 11:09:37 am
What the..... :conf:
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Aragorn on July 24, 2007, 11:09:56 am
If the work gets destroyed and constantly abused then it's a different story.

Do you have idea of Argonath History???
I think - no...
We were flamed/crashed/hacked/flooded...
Our enemies were united all MTA servers against us...
They were threatening us, that they are in MTA team official testers and can press on us, they were crashing server 24/7 with the same kind of bots as on SA:MP...

So I know exactly what I am talking about...
And it is - SA:MP fault...
Like you or not...
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Aragorn on July 24, 2007, 11:12:00 am
Aragorn, ur adult... So sue hackers and pwn them, so maybe samp dev team will think its worth to start again. Yeah i belive some fights inside the team too

We suggested them our help...
They ignored...
So we already did all for busting...
But we'll not fight hackers of SA:MP, if SA:MP actually ignored our help...

Where it came?

The results you can see on SA:MP site...
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: polakzpolski on July 24, 2007, 11:15:01 am
Total idiots ... I can't bellive it...   :( 
I am wainting now for MTA:SA ;)
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: T r o j a n TM on July 24, 2007, 11:16:17 am
Is MTA:SA good? Or is it pointless even thinking about?
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Abraham on July 24, 2007, 11:18:08 am
Give their email addresses so we can spam them until they stop this nonsense :(
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Specter on July 24, 2007, 11:22:01 am
Give their email addresses so we can spam them until they stop this nonsense :(
this could be more nonsense to them so dont
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Niitro on July 24, 2007, 11:23:20 am
I tried, It sucks ... :S
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: tiderman on July 24, 2007, 11:26:50 am
Is MTA:SA good? Or is it pointless even thinking about?
I thought you had to pay for MTA:SA..
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Abraham on July 24, 2007, 11:27:16 am
i dont mean spam such as: omg noobs turn SA:MP back!!!

-But supportive emails from everyone of the Argonath community, urging them not to give up, and letting them know that "we" can help.
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Justin on July 24, 2007, 11:27:53 am
Cheer up, look whats going on saturday! :D
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: WDoyle on July 24, 2007, 11:28:59 am
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?q3ddwe59&1

sign this please people we need loads of signatures
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Gimli on July 24, 2007, 11:34:34 am
http://samp.flomp.net/0.2.1-list.html (http://samp.flomp.net/0.2.1-list.html)

This is a server list, I think it's a live one as well :O

Cheers,
-xcasio :)
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Gandalf on July 24, 2007, 11:37:09 am
first post updated with mail address
Posted on: July 24, 2007, 10:35:10 AM
http://samp.flomp.net/0.2.1-list.html (http://samp.flomp.net/0.2.1-list.html)

This is a server list, I think it's a live one as well :O

Cheers,
-xcasio :)
Last updated 17-07-2007... not really live ;)
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on July 24, 2007, 11:38:15 am
We should never give in to hackers !!!!!!!!NEVERthan they would have won ..Its like giving into terrorists if you give up they have won!!!

now i think the samp team is giving up too easily , there are many things they can do ...most hackers are stupid children who downloaded a tool.....

only the few are realy dangerous ...and there is always something we can do WE are NOT defenseless to hackers !I will email the samp team urging them to atleast pass the work on to a new team of programmers...(If you know a good one ..........)and there are legal steps possible I am sure , althoug that isnt my field of expertise
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Gimli on July 24, 2007, 11:41:43 am
Hello,

As far as I've understood from IRC, a developer (kyeman) pulled the plug without listening to the other developers opinions.. I think there's a small chance that SA-MP will reopen..

Quote
<Azer> well Patriot, kyeman made an arrogant and selfish decision to drop the SA:MP project without listening to the other devs, no wonder people blame kyeman...

And then again, what would happen if microsoft stopped working on windows because of all the stupid hackers?

Cheers,
-xcasio :)
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on July 24, 2007, 11:44:27 am
Another thing cant ALL server owners JOIN together to fight this , there are hundreds of servers all with a comumity lets together FIGHT this
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Justin on July 24, 2007, 11:46:30 am
Thanks for the light of hope, Xcasio.
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Abraham on July 24, 2007, 11:58:26 am
This is just a very very late april-fools joke  :neutral:
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Gimli on July 24, 2007, 12:04:07 pm
There is also another mystery, with the source code someone could make their own announce.exe and make a new master server, but the SA:MP team has decided not to release the source code. The SA:MP team claims there is R* code within the source.
Quote
[04:01] <jacob> I don't understand.. what does Rockstar have to do with SA:MP's code if its unafilliated?
[04:06] <jacob> are you trying to say R* had a part in the development of SA:MP?
[04:07] <Kye> I'm not prepared to saying anything
[04:07] <Kye> other than, you should just trust what I'm doing

Cheers,
-xcasio :)
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Luca_Scalise on July 24, 2007, 12:08:03 pm
This is the first time i feel angry cause of a game...i can't beleive they stopped the project cause of the hackers...they could ask server owners to give them Hackers IP Address and send them to the Police, to the FBI, to the CIA, to the UN o whatever, I - Can't - Beleive - It.

Many "legendary" servers are down, their websites do not exist anymore  :mad: **** **, ***** ,* ****** **** **** :flame: ****, *** *****!!!!!!!!!!! (CENSORED)

 :ps: I forgot: do not think im a SAMP Team fan, they released a 10% Done mod, with many bug, many chances to hack or found any glitch... their next project SHOULD be a lot better of samp, ill not stop play SAMP cause i play only on argonath, and if the server keeps up for me it's ok  ;)
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 12:09:50 pm
Sa:mp funerals in Argonath (http://www.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=5936.0)
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Jcstodds on July 24, 2007, 12:10:08 pm
The problem with the SA:MP people- They have lost all what means to be a video-gamer. They should realise without gamers there would be no need for developers, the world would be a sorry state. Without developers: gamers will be lost to wonder the streets like in America- gormless and wondering absently into streetlamps and shops etc...
  All gamers should know never to give up. Developers have lost this and need TO GET THEIR SORRY FINGERS OUT THEIR ARSES!

  TAKE a fucking lesson from the gamers manual: You see the problem, you take it by the neck and fucking strangle it until its no- more!

  I put my vote in: it is now  their turn to do what is right. They need to step back, they need to show us that they wtill have the gamer inside them. They need to show those hackers with heir fucktarded cause who they are up against, and that they have NOT won!

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?q3ddwe59&1
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 12:10:32 pm
Sa:mp funerals in Argonath (http://www.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=5936.0)
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: WDoyle on July 24, 2007, 12:12:28 pm
:O:O
look here 196 bots http://www.game-monitor.com/GameServer/212.227.83.76:3018/Stevvos_Test_server_host.ahoh.de.html (http://www.game-monitor.com/GameServer/212.227.83.76:3018/Stevvos_Test_server_host.ahoh.de.html)
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Gimli on July 24, 2007, 12:16:59 pm
Quote
<Cam> *some* progress is being made! Hang in there!
<Cam> -w+e
Cam is a developer.


When I asked him in a PM ( 2% chance that he'd reply, LOL )

Quote
<xcasio> Hi, I'm xcasio from a roleplay community. You said that some progress is being made, what type of progress and is there still a small chance that SA:MP will come back?
<Cam> yes, theres a chance

So I think this is great news!  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:ps: Sorry for the excessive smilies, I'm just happy.

Cheers,
-xcasio :)
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: DeeJay on July 24, 2007, 12:19:36 pm
new attack again?? i thought they couldnt do that again :S
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Watti on July 24, 2007, 12:21:45 pm
hmmm... Well i will try ask for the Source code and try continuee there work... as yes it is a Shit that guys were hacking servers ... but... never the less... it is a Pitty that Retards Hack and destroy Work.. as they are children... why not post the laws...



http://www.efa.org.au/Issues/Censor/cens3.html

its a Pitty actually... that i had to search for this.. but... Guys read them...
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Aragorn on July 24, 2007, 12:22:44 pm
Aragorn had us some good news. Devs are thinking about making a new MP with one MP company for San Andreas. Nothing is over yet

Lol?
No... I ment other thing at all and not a SAMP multiplayer...
And i said that yeah we discussing some project with some Game firm on the NEW original, exclusive multiplayer...
But not VC or SA...
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Justin on July 24, 2007, 12:25:38 pm
thank you so much xcasio :D)
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 12:29:25 pm
OH, got it wron
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: Tice on July 24, 2007, 12:40:04 pm
Erm, sorry to burst your bubble, but that is hacking, and you can be put in jail for it..

Sadly, no-one in the autohrities cares about hacking anymore. I mean, if someone gives me their IP I could do all kinds of stuff to Bust3d and Troy (TCP floods, botnets, HTTP pipeline rape [his website]), though I don't want to give Argonath a bad name.

TroyRulez007 has attacked other servers before. I'd like to think SAMP is not going down without a fight. I can easily distriute some of my scripts to you guys to fucking make them pay, though I realise what this would do to the reputation of Argonath.
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Tice on July 24, 2007, 12:46:16 pm
Like I said,

Quote from: Me in killzone
I mean, if someone gives me their IP I could do all kinds of stuff to Bust3d and Troy (TCP floods, botnets, HTTP pipeline rape [his website]), though I don't want to give Argonath a bad name.

TroyRulez007 has attacked other servers before. I'd like to think SAMP is not going down without a fight. I can easily distriute some of my scripts to you guys to fucking make them pay, though I realise what this would do to the reputation of Argonath.

I am SO pissed. I'm not sure if making Argonath wage war on these kids is a good idea, though.
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on July 24, 2007, 12:54:13 pm
The samp team also states Gta 4 will have multiplayer built in...............................we all now that that probably means some dm gametypes ...(play saints row on th3 360 and you know what i mean)
but if we want to keep on rp ing games like these we all wil have to work together....
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Pistol Man on July 24, 2007, 12:54:41 pm
mutha bitches fuck'em , but whats the difference between having a list on ur favorite or not if ur still able to play sa-mp?
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Cross on July 24, 2007, 01:08:10 pm
Yeah, but all hackers on argonath know this:

(http://toddshammer.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/gandalf-sign.jpg)
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Tice on July 24, 2007, 01:08:53 pm
Xcasio, thanks for the infomation. I was getting so annoyed that I opened Jmeter and began writing a script to attack them back...

... I really need to calm down :(
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: Jubin on July 24, 2007, 01:21:47 pm
Fucking assholes. Samp master list down is THEIR fault. stupid noobs!
I will crash that fucking bust3d, i mean that. I am pissed.
Fuck TroyNoob007 and Bust3d. They ruined best MP in world...
And why do samp devs give up so fast?
I cant. Argonath will lose popularity because of that now...
Your first post makes me more worry then Argonath's popularity.
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Gandalf on July 24, 2007, 01:37:48 pm
There is a lot of commotion, trying to restart SA-MP.

New forums: http://www.sampforums.us.to/ (http://www.sampforums.us.to/)
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: [H2K]chaozz on July 24, 2007, 01:42:38 pm
I don't blame the developers. If you make a free product just to make the internet a better place, and these f*ckers keep making hacks, exploits and try to crash your servers I would be sick off it too. I know it looks like their giving up, but they are just sick 'n tired of getting b*ttf*cked every release.

RIP SA-MP :cry:
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: T r o j a n TM on July 24, 2007, 01:45:54 pm
I've got better things to think about in life rather than a game mod shutting down. :lol:
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 01:50:49 pm
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?q3ddwe59
Everybody, SIGN NOW
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 01:52:00 pm
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?q3ddwe59
^^ Sign now
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Gimli on July 24, 2007, 01:59:40 pm
There is a lot of commotion, trying to restart SA-MP.

New forums: http://www.sampforums.us.to/ (http://www.sampforums.us.to/)

Yes, there are quite a lot of these, people are trying to make their forums just like the SA-MP forums were...
http://samp.samp-host.net/index.php - like this one...  (http://samp.samp-host.net/index.php)

Cheers,
-xcasio :)
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Hess on July 24, 2007, 02:07:02 pm
yes and i am sure people are making their own copies of SAMP as well now...

just another reason for the real SAMP people to start it up again ;)


Also...I think one topic about this is enough lol...
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: sRy on July 24, 2007, 02:18:54 pm
woah....good thing i got argonath on the list...i actually never bother to get a server on my list  :rofl:
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Obi1 on July 24, 2007, 02:33:48 pm
I've got better things to think about in life rather than a game mod shutting down. :lol:

Is that why ur usually always online lol?
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 02:59:15 pm
Link removed: links to hackers resources can contain a virus.
^^ Busted one. Full ver coming soon

Posted on: 24-07-2007, 16:44:04
(http://i14.tinypic.com/4yerq77.jpg)
Can we add those to sigs? I mean its bit big, but...
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Gimli on July 24, 2007, 03:05:59 pm
Bust3dSAMP..rar

^^ Busted one. Full ver coming soon


Andre,
That's one of the guys that was responsible for the attacks.

Image - Troy is an admin on those forums, they're the one's that forced SA-MP to quit (http://www.sa-mp.com/troyVIP.jpg)

Cheers,
-xcasio..
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: beefums on July 24, 2007, 03:33:04 pm
I have a firm feeling what is done is done.

However:

I think that it is possible for RP servers to live on. How? We need to formulate a list of servers and IPs. After we do that we google bomb the shit out of it. What is a google bomb? Repeatedly clicking on something from google so it moves it to the top of the list. This will benefit everyone since now the list would be at the top of SA-MP
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: dan_lcfc on July 24, 2007, 03:36:29 pm
 :war: :skull:

They had better bring it back up, over 700 petetion votes now!!!!!!

I have a firm feeling what is done is done.

However:

I think that it is possible for RP servers to live on. How? We need to formulate a list of servers and IPs. After we do that we google bomb the shit out of it. What is a google bomb? Repeatedly clicking on something from google so it moves it to the top of the list. This will benefit everyone since now the list would be at the top of SA-MP
everyone vote
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?q3ddwe59


LOL, google bomb
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Justin on July 24, 2007, 03:56:44 pm
And i'm guessing this fixes the internet list problem :))

http://dracoblue.net/dev/index.php/2007/07/24/fix-sa-mp-021-internetserverlist/

HOW TO GET SERVERS ON INTERNETS AND OFFICIAL LIST

Start > Run > C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts > Open With Notepad > (At Bottom) ADD: 81.169.180.114 master.sa-mp.com > Save
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Tice on July 24, 2007, 04:00:51 pm
1154 Total Signatures

... This is crazy, Kyeman is a moron for even thinking about doing this.

EDIT: Ok, just refreshed and it's gone up to 1169... In under 20 seconds.

EDIT: It's hit the 1200 mark
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 04:10:26 pm

Andre,
That's one of the guys that was responsible for the attacks.

Image - Troy is an admin on those forums, they're the one's that forced SA-MP to quit (http://www.sa-mp.com/troyVIP.jpg)

Cheers,
-xcasio..
I know who TroyFuck is, but he wants to play too. Read what he said
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: RedSteel on July 24, 2007, 04:10:59 pm
I thought you had to pay for MTA:SA..
Hahaha, that was an April Fool's joke, if you checked the website itself you'd know that rather than still thinking it 3 months on.
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Tice on July 24, 2007, 04:16:03 pm
I've got better things to think about in life rather than a game mod shutting down. :lol:

Yeah! Why don't we all just sit at rest knowing that 2 little moronic kids have managed to shut down an entire project that a group of people have worked hard in making! Let's not show our support or anything! It's people like you that the SAMP team worked hard in making their product for!
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Gimli on July 24, 2007, 04:16:44 pm
And i'm guessing this fixes the internet list problem :))

Thanks Justin, it crashed when I tried to open the official servers tab though :Pp
Cheers,
-xcasio :)
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: tiderman on July 24, 2007, 04:17:15 pm
Hahaha, that was an April Fool's joke, if you checked the website itself you'd know that rather than still thinking it 3 months on.
A too late joke.. I heard it in july
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 04:17:27 pm
Yup! Works!
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Justin on July 24, 2007, 04:24:12 pm
Thanks Justin, it crashed when I tried to open the official servers tab though :Pp
Cheers,
-xcasio :)

Try Rebooting SA:MP then it should work.
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: rahul92 on July 24, 2007, 04:47:28 pm
ohh am gonna miss my samp so much!!!
CAN SOME ONE PLZ SEND ME A LINK TO 0.2.1 Windows Server PLZZZZZZZZ i wanna play wid my frnds so bad
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Luca_Scalise on July 24, 2007, 04:51:47 pm
Golden Sign:

[FBI]ciola: non vedo un futuro senza samp

Translation: I can not see a future without SAMP
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Gothem on July 24, 2007, 05:11:23 pm
Yeah, but all hackers on argonath know this:

(http://toddshammer.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/gandalf-sign.jpg)

 :rofl: :rofl: :lol: :lol:

very funny!

---------------
In other theme

WHY!!!! WHY!!! WHY!!!!!!!???

why the fucking hackers do that!!!!

(sry by the language)
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Niitro on July 24, 2007, 05:36:02 pm
YAY it is working fine ... :D
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Justin on July 24, 2007, 05:45:58 pm
The main SA:MP Forums is back up!!

http://forum.sa-mp.com/index.php
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Aragorn on July 24, 2007, 05:49:52 pm
it is up and down again...
But you can check the cheaters' site - is it working...))))
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on July 24, 2007, 06:03:06 pm
I cant get over that the source code wil not even be made available ...AND the timing just before GTA 4 is released ...coincidence or ...you start to ask yourself about the hackers origin ...but im paraniod by nature so ......
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Tice on July 24, 2007, 06:08:52 pm
Is anyone else getting a ''powered by lighttpd'' message on the SAMP main site?

EDIT: http://forum.sa-mp.com/index.php?topic=24718.0

!!!
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Swig on July 24, 2007, 06:10:30 pm
SA-MP is back in game, just after some hours :P

SA-MP.com is back and SA:MP servers are now available as per usual. (I getted that from gta-host.com) and i can again go on "Internet" and "Offical" server, and there it's comes servers :)

So SA-MP = Back in game :)
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Justin on July 24, 2007, 06:22:18 pm
Is anyone else getting a ''powered by lighttpd'' message on the SAMP main site?

Yes, i am also.
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Wayne on July 24, 2007, 06:30:11 pm
thats gay surrender for light scripts kiddies...
if there is no SA-MP we could race alot for shit in MTA  :wow:
i know the most head cheaters and know what they can do
small progams for shit to "f***" all players
at least SA-MP is more powerfull than these kids...

Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Justin on July 24, 2007, 06:30:16 pm
ohh am gonna miss my samp so much!!!
CAN SOME ONE PLZ SEND ME A LINK TO 0.2.1 Windows Server PLZZZZZZZZ i wanna play wid my frnds so bad

You can download SA:MP 0.2.1, Here (http://www.argonathrpg.com/downloads/sa-mp-0.2.1-install.exe).
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Undertaker on July 24, 2007, 06:33:32 pm
SAMP is back
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Tice on July 24, 2007, 06:33:39 pm
There may be hope...

http://www.sa-mp.com

http://forum.sa-mp.com/index.php?topic=24718.0
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Wayne on July 24, 2007, 06:34:53 pm
check this regadings from a cheat site
Quote
I nor anyone here had ANYTHING whatsoever to do with sa-mp being shut down.
If you have a problem, don't take it up with us, or even the bot developer, take it up with the SA-MP team, that's right i said it.

To spite the fact the bot developer was in fact wrong, as everyone here often is ( morally ), that is no excuse for SA-MP to stop their development,
believe me you as well as i know that it IS their decision, however, never have i before seen any team of developers act like such a load of metaphorical babies.

The fact is, there are people dedicated to gaining off of the suffering of others on the internet,
thats just how the internet works, there is people ho will prey on your every weakness and, yes, you can quit,
but to take on the monumental task of reversing a video game to be made available online and for it to end so abruptly for no real good reason, well thats just silly.

so my standing statement is this:

Do not walk into the internet arena that is multiplayer gaming and expect it to be easy, because it is not.

The sa-mp developers tried to end their website with some sort of dignity, when in the end they only seem as if they are passing the buck.
Its the developer's fault there is flaws in their netcode, not the bot developer's fault and lets never forget that.

let today not be known as the day Troyrulz brought down SA-MP, but rather let it be known as the day SA-MP gave up.

asshole..
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: ItwasBrad on July 24, 2007, 06:35:43 pm
Have they deffinatly all quit?
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Undertaker on July 24, 2007, 06:37:11 pm
SAMP Is Back
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Gandalf on July 24, 2007, 06:37:29 pm
SA:MP is back!
And btw the hackers site is down. That is how I like to see it.
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Undertaker on July 24, 2007, 06:38:45 pm
SA:MP is back!
:rofl: Wat did i say????  :lol:
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 06:41:05 pm
bust3d is busted!
I sent a mail to their provider.
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Wayne on July 24, 2007, 06:41:48 pm
there is another site going on and growing..
i would not tell wich is to not encourage someone cheat here.
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: ItwasBrad on July 24, 2007, 06:42:57 pm
Awesome :D, A couiple of my friends saw an open spot in the market to make a new mod for this XD, Il go tell them theres no need =D
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Wayne on July 24, 2007, 06:45:07 pm
back for what?
you did see?
cam said:
Quote
we dont care about all servers
they gonna do same shit again?
or what?
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Aragorn on July 24, 2007, 06:52:03 pm
there is another site going on and growing..
i would not tell wich is to not encourage someone cheat here.

Well, once they will try to fuck up with SAMP servers again - that site will be down as well...
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Tice on July 24, 2007, 06:53:38 pm
Bust3d forums have been pwned, SAMP is coming back, I think we can all calm down now.

Quote from: Andre
bust3d is busted!
I sent a mail to their provider.

The provider won't give a shit. Some things have to be carried out by force, and it looks like it already has been.
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Watti on July 24, 2007, 06:57:35 pm
There BACK!!!
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Gandalf on July 24, 2007, 07:02:34 pm
Bust3d forums have been pwned, SAMP is coming back, I think we can all calm down now.

The provider won't give a shit. Some things have to be carried out by force, and it looks like it already has been.
Tice I think that you are only partially right  ;)
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Grovyle on July 24, 2007, 07:05:13 pm
WOOHOOOOO

Cheaters got pwned :D

If they continue i will sue him .___. With or without war

I have launched a campain today:

DIE HACKERS!

lol joke...

But now SA:MP is back wohoooo we're so lucky :)

Thx to me mauhahauhauhuahuahuahuahauhuahauhauuhah auhua... <---- Joke! Im just lucky :D
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Tice on July 24, 2007, 07:09:46 pm
Tice I think that you are only partially right  ;)

Well, from my experience of things like this (much bigger attacks using much more destructive tools), that the host and the ISP has always had more to worry about. Once an ISP ignored a Federal Subpoena request to get the IP addresses of the hackers, even after the police were informed. After almost 6 months of constant DDOS attacks, still nothing was done.

This case may be different though, I just doubt it.
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Gandalf on July 24, 2007, 07:21:02 pm
Well, from my experience of things like this (much bigger attacks using much more destructive tools), that the host and the ISP has always had more to worry about. Once an ISP ignored a Federal Subpoena request to get the IP addresses of the hackers, even after the police were informed. After almost 6 months of constant DDOS attacks, still nothing was done.

This case may be different though, I just doubt it.
It is often not the news itself but how you bring it. An ISP or webhost will ignore requests for IP's of people as they are protecting their customers. But if you convince them they are liable they will bring down a site or connection very fast.
Instead of bothering people with asking the IP of hackers, get their IP and tell the company that owns them they are liable.
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: Watti on July 24, 2007, 07:33:45 pm
Fucking assholes. Samp master list down is THEIR fault. stupid noobs!
I will crash that fucking bust3d, i mean that. I am pissed.
Fuck TroyNoob007 and Bust3d. They ruined best MP in world...
And why do samp devs give up so fast?

Wow...

Man dw .. Argonath RPG has Been throught more than them.. we proved to be Stronger
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Challenger on July 24, 2007, 07:50:25 pm
Finally SA:MP is back again and running  :D
Title: Re: SA-MP was down... but they are BACK!
Post by: Anto on July 24, 2007, 08:05:38 pm
the hackers got hacked LoL
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: DeeJay on July 24, 2007, 08:15:34 pm
nothing to worry about, SAMP is back up again
Title: Re: WTF SA-MP has done ???
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 09:27:23 pm
the hackers got hacked LoL
Dev's hacked Hackers
Posted on: 24-07-2007, 23:26:33
there is another site going on and growing..
i would not tell wich is to not encourage someone cheat here.
Wtf some sampfacks?
Title: Re: SA-MP was down... but they are BACK!
Post by: Wayne on July 24, 2007, 09:29:37 pm
the cheaters will never stop.. they will want more shit and shit..
always admins dont give a fuck and ban then thats a good thing..
Posted on: July 24, 2007, 08:28:33 PM
samphacks is down now its another site named
i wich would not tell then.. thats encourage people to cheat i always check this site for get some tips and see new hacks functions so i can catch cheaters more easy
Title: Re: SA-MP was down... but they are BACK!
Post by: Aragorn on July 24, 2007, 09:33:40 pm
Guys, first of all, the hackers did not get hacked...
Just their site was shut down by their hoster...

And second - of cos hackers will be always - that is the sign of every popular game...
And those, who use hacks, they will be sniffing around for sure...

But the owners of hacking site and developers of crash bots now I hope will understand what exactly a shitty things they do...
When it started be clear, they cannot live without SA:MP as well...

And Wayne - we are not interested in samphacks site, until they will not start attempts on SAMP master list and servers again... So please stop this posts about some hacking site...
Title: Re: SA-MP was down... but they are BACK!
Post by: Dave on July 24, 2007, 10:21:32 pm
i have to admit..it was pretty funny, when ronnel suggested in that big MSN convo this moring to send complaints , lots of them, to the ones hosting the hack website :\
Title: Re: SA-MP was down... but they are BACK!
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 10:40:33 pm
SA:MP Returning party on ArgonathRPG (http://www.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=5967.msg57863#new)
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Shifter on July 24, 2007, 10:57:07 pm
I hate it when people like them do this -_-.......Leave, come back expect all to be like it was before they left..
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: Shifter on July 24, 2007, 11:00:58 pm
Yea but for how long? If they shut it down once already wats stopping them from leaving again in a week or 2 when more hackers come?
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Andre9977 on July 24, 2007, 11:02:38 pm
Okay... Sa:Mp is up, no hacking sites  :trust:
All is alright.
Sa:mp returning party (http://www.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=5967.msg57866#new)
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: DeeJay on July 25, 2007, 12:19:14 am
well i dunno about that, we just have to show that we are stronger in mind then them
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: BlackBird on July 25, 2007, 12:29:46 am
Sadly, no-one in the autohrities cares about hacking anymore. I mean, if someone gives me their IP I could do all kinds of stuff to Bust3d and Troy (TCP floods, botnets, HTTP pipeline rape [his website]), though I don't want to give Argonath a bad name.

TroyRulez007 has attacked other servers before. I'd like to think SAMP is not going down without a fight. I can easily distriute some of my scripts to you guys to fucking make them pay, though I realise what this would do to the reputation of Argonath.

LOL Your signature Tice says it all
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: DeeJay on July 25, 2007, 01:29:05 am
well i wanna see them both cry, but i cant do much cause i dont want any bad reputation to this server cause of me, but i belive there is a thing i can do..
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: Aragorn on July 25, 2007, 09:31:25 am
We had a lot of crashers for this year we are on...
And never answered by hacking back, though we had support from people, who are professional hackers...
But as to players, so to all other supporters we cleared up - no any illegal actions...

Cos we'll not respect ourselves then...

About SAMP nobody knows how it will affect in future, I agree...
But now we already experienced that it can suddenly go down...

And I am afraid the next "SAMP opponent" will be stronger then hackers...
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: Shifter on July 25, 2007, 10:06:13 am
And I am afraid the next "SAMP opponent" will be stronger then hackers...
Indeed Aragorn it will be, a massive step for SAMP will be to overcome that.....hopefully with some survivers..
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: Aragorn on July 25, 2007, 10:41:28 am
None will survive...
A small chance, but I doubt...
In this case the hackers are nothing, when such shark as Rockstar Games will come...
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: Andre9977 on July 25, 2007, 10:43:44 am
Some quote from mihail:
Hackers are little kiddies getting beaten up by parents lol
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: nitox on July 25, 2007, 11:30:45 am
samp died but then got resurrected :cop:
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Obi1 on July 25, 2007, 11:33:39 am
sa-mp is back back again sa-mp is back tell a friend!! wooo :roll:
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: Gandalf on July 25, 2007, 01:01:31 pm
It has been confirmed even on cheaters forums that bust3d was brought down by its hoster.
As long as people cry that authorities and ISP's  are not interested and do not even try actions, nothing will happen.
One report will not interest authorities or a provider. A lot of reports will.

If a burglar steals something from your house you want to rip the guys head off. And when you go to the police, you believe they will do nothing. But every now and then the police actually catches criminals, and if they have more reports they can get a higher punishment. Just by doing your duty and take the official way, there is more chance of punishment. If you find the guy yourself and beat him you become the criminal.
Title: Re: Good Bye, SA-MP.
Post by: Prometheus[NL] on July 25, 2007, 01:24:26 pm
Lets hope they dont pull a stunt like that ever again , after they released it sa mp was no longer just theirs it became all of ours

so shutting it down isnt longer their discision ITS ALL OF OURS (as server owners /players have put in as much work as they have )
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: Aragorn on July 25, 2007, 02:24:00 pm
Lol?
On official SA:MP forum this guys says that site was just downtimed...)))
Probably he thinks none can trace which hoster is and did it changed...
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: Tice on July 25, 2007, 02:29:58 pm
As long as people cry that authorities and ISP's  are not interested and do not even try actions, nothing will happen.
One report will not interest authorities or a provider. A lot of reports will.

As I said, I was only talking from experience. I'm surprised and pleased that the provider took action, and either way, bust3d is gone ;)
Title: Re: Bust3d and TroyFucks007
Post by: Wayne on July 25, 2007, 04:25:15 pm
these cheaters.. cannont survive along time  :ban:
Title: Re: SA-MP was down... but they are BACK!
Post by: [GSF]Niall on July 25, 2007, 06:10:35 pm
celebrate their downfall, check this http://www.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=5932.0;num_replies=152
Title: Re: SA-MP was down... but they are BACK!
Post by: rJCaiG on July 26, 2007, 08:05:37 am
could you stop advertising partys and rubbish?  ;)
Title: Re: SA-MP was down... but they are BACK!
Post by: Abraham on July 26, 2007, 10:02:26 am
Amen
Title: Re: SA-MP was down... but they are BACK!
Post by: Cork on July 26, 2007, 12:13:11 pm
Amen?  :lol:
Title: Re: SA-MP was down... but they are BACK!
Post by: Justin on July 26, 2007, 12:15:27 pm
The word Amen (Tiberian Hebrew אמן ’Āmēn "So be it; truly", Standard Hebrew אמן Amen, Arabic آمين ’Āmīn) is a declaration of affirmation found in the Hebrew Bible and in the Qur'an. It has always been in use within Judaism. It has been generally adopted in Christian worship as a concluding formula for prayers and hymns. In Islam, it is the standard ending to surat al-Fatiha. ...

(http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&defl=en&q=define:amen&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title)
Title: Re: SA-MP was down... but they are BACK!
Post by: Buffon on July 26, 2007, 05:00:49 pm
(http://www.darkness.de/images/product_images/popup_images/amen-grind_the_bastards_down-cd.jpg)

 :rofl: :lol: :cool:
Title: Re: SA-MP was down... but they are BACK!
Post by: Andre9977 on July 27, 2007, 12:56:29 pm
Wtf internet server list down?  :neutral:
Title: Re: SA-MP was down... but they are BACK!
Post by: Watti on July 27, 2007, 01:06:55 pm
its very much up
Title: Re: SA-MP was down... but they are BACK!
Post by: Gandalf on July 27, 2007, 01:15:28 pm
The internet server list has some problems.
Servers seem to dropp off the list and come back a litle later.
Perhaps they are using some anti-crasher protection that disturbs the announce function.
Title: Re: SA-MP was down... but they are BACK!
Post by: Cork on July 27, 2007, 11:53:26 pm
The word Amen (Tiberian Hebrew אמן ’Āmēn "So be it; truly", Standard Hebrew אמן Amen, Arabic آمين ’Āmīn) is a declaration of affirmation found in the Hebrew Bible and in the Qur'an. It has always been in use within Judaism. It has been generally adopted in Christian worship as a concluding formula for prayers and hymns. In Islam, it is the standard ending to surat al-Fatiha. ...

(http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&defl=en&q=define:amen&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title)

So this is a fucking christian forum or what?  :eek:
Title: Re: SA-MP was down... but they are BACK!
Post by: Abraham on July 28, 2007, 11:44:27 am
Who said it was a christian forum?
-The word Amen doesn't equal to christianity, it's just a word.

Also it clearly says that the word is used in Islam and Judaism
Title: Re: SA-MP was down... but they are BACK!
Post by: tiderman on July 28, 2007, 06:08:48 pm
So this is a donky christian forum or what?  :eek:
Yes. And god bless you and your family. :)
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