I only see moan here
What is the exact point of this topic?
I only see moan here
If you have /hail'ed and cop HAVEN'T done /me cuffs suspect, you can RUN!
IF you hailed, and the cop did /me cuffs suspect, you HAVE to give up as that is a sign of you giving up.
What if a friend comes along, pretends he's going to kidnap you, takes you away and shoots the cuffs off? :neutral:Then most likely, he will be suspected.. "/su ID 207" .. = Kidnapping happens, both suspects will be taken down, using lethal force
What is the exact point of this topic?Where does the attitude of some come from, where asking something about a situation, is immediately moan?
I only see moan here
If you /gu'd you can't run. If you did anything else except that, you can. Simple.
But /gu itself is not a rule as suspects are allowed to surrender without /gu, and are bound to the same restrictions once doing so (not allowed to open fire or run).
But remember that anything you say can and will be used aganst you, and not only in court.
Sorry But I am in the process of warning all of the ARPD members of this and I believe we have a policy instituted that means Until you /gu you are known as a unsurrendered suspect. I really dont give 2 shits if your hands are in the air cause I have been in the scenario where he does /hail and when I am typing /me cuffs the man I get combatted to death!!!
It is not right any officer should not approach or lower their weapon until a suspect /gu's
Im pretty sure Gandalf made the rule that if you do /hail an say oyu give up, then it counts as surrenderingI recall the same thing, Moose. I have been told to report to administration if it happens.
I recall the same thing, Moose. I have been told to report to administration if it happens.
Boozman knows all :pop::gand:
Its called tactics and common sense. Its like when FBI is negotiating with suspects who kidnapped someone, and FBI "agrees" on paying 50,000$ to the kidnappers, as part of their "buy time" tactics. So every time you guys say /L We'll pay the 50k, you're obligated to do it, no mater did you /send id 50k or not.
Same criteria.
The point of this topic is to clear whether one is allowed to escape after claiming to have surrendered (not /gu) or not.It's not allowed, that are the rules.
If you /gu'd you can't run. If you did anything else except that, you can. Simple.
As long as the cop havn't yet approached to you and did "/me cuffs the guy", technicaly, your still on the lose.Wrong.
Where does the attitude of some come from, where asking something about a situation, is immediately moan?The rule is clear and fair, yet people still try to question and bend it to their advantage. You can't escape after giving signs that you've surrendered to the cops. No exceptions.
Its called tactics and common sense. Its like when FBI is negotiating with suspects who kidnapped someone, and FBI "agrees" on paying 50,000$ to the kidnappers, as part of their "buy time" tactics. So every time you guys say /L We'll pay the 50k, you're obligated to do it, no mater did you /send id 50k or not.Common sense in kidnapping a fed or cop?? LOL
I think its ok to do so.Smart my ass. More like wiseguy.
When you do /hail and then try to escape, you sort of "decieve" the cop and its smart, not retarted non-RP.
I hold gunpoint on people until they really /gu, why? not because I can't RP, but because they can't RP.
I once did /hail, cops came to me, I asked about my right, etc... you know. Stalled the time. Then my buddies showed up, and we escaped. Sometimes that doesn't work when the cops outnumber you, but it is still fun. Thats what I call RP.If that is possible within the current rules, I don't know. But it is atleast way better then when the suspect starts shooting at the cops after the /hail. ;)
I want to have the possibility to escape if the cop hasn't cuffed me yet.You don't. That are the rules.
/em succesBad command usage.
You don't. That are the rules.I know, but it is just an extra safety. The step the criminal has to attack/run after /gu is much bigger then when he did not. Just to prevent them from rulebreaking.
If you declare to cops that you surrender - you follow them until jail.
Bad command usage.I know.. I know... I don't use it myself, but putted it there as an exemple, since some people will probably better understand what I mean, when they see that. ;)
You don't. That are the rules.Even if you don't /giveup?
If you declare to cops that you surrender - you follow them until jail.
Bad command usage.
Clear enough?Pretty much, thank you.
NO ESCAPE AFTER SURRENDER. That is final, absloute, and not subject to change.
If SAPD tries to enforce the rule to /gu, they are going against server rules, and cops who enforce this will be copbanned. If a player does /hail or says "I give up" or surrenders in any other way and then rund, he faces a ban.
Clear enough ?
I dont understand? is this a rule thats already being enfoced or something that your planing to enforce especially..,It would not be the first copban for this.
"if SAPD tries to enforce the rule to /gu, they are going against server rules, and cops who enforce this will be copbanned." this part?
The rule "No escaping after surrender"was made long before the /gu script, and there for is valid for any type of surrendering.Can't believe no one actually thought of this, or atleast mentioned it. :lol:
What is the exact point of this topic?And you haven't seen moan in the "Lets get things straight" topic? Oh wow.
I only see moan here
The rule "No escaping after surrender"was made long before the /gu script, and there for is valid for any type of surrendering.Wow, I never tried to escape if I surrendered without /gu because of shear dignity...never knew it was a rule.
Why ? Lets make an example that nobody who posts in this topic would ever do, only those bad guys who play and never post on forums...
After 40 minutes chasing a criminal, the cops have him cornered without a car and low HP. The criminal does /hail and starts to RP that he will go with the cops. However he is hurt so he needs a medic first. After the medic arrives and has healed him, he gets in to the cop car. When near the police station and a fresh supply of escape cars, the player jumps out, shouts "COPS SUCK" and another 40 minute chase begins. At the end the criminal does /gu but is shot by a cop who just wasted 2 hours and gets fined $1000 for the trouble. Of course the criminal will follow this up by moaning in main chat for another 30 minutes, while flaming the cop that killed him in PM.
NO ESCAPE AFTER SURRENDER. That is final, absloute, and not subject to change.
If SAPD tries to enforce the rule to /gu, they are going against server rules, and cops who enforce this will be copbanned. If a player does /hail or says "I give up" or surrenders in any other way and then rund, he faces a ban.
Clear enough ?
If you have /hail'ed and cop HAVEN'T done /me cuffs suspect, you can RUN!
IF you hailed, and the cop did /me cuffs suspect, you HAVE to give up as that is a sign of you giving up.
It would not be the first copban for this.
The rule "No escaping after surrender"was made long before the /gu script, and there for is valid for any type of surrendering.
Why ? Lets make an example that nobody who posts in this topic would ever do, only those bad guys who play and never post on forums...
After 40 minutes chasing a criminal, the cops have him cornered without a car and low HP. The criminal does /hail and starts to RP that he will go with the cops. However he is hurt so he needs a medic first. After the medic arrives and has healed him, he gets in to the cop car. When near the police station and a fresh supply of escape cars, the player jumps out, shouts "COPS SUCK" and another 40 minute chase begins. At the end the criminal does /gu but is shot by a cop who just wasted 2 hours and gets fined $1000 for the trouble. Of course the criminal will follow this up by moaning in main chat for another 30 minutes, while flaming the cop that killed him in PM.
NO ESCAPE AFTER SURRENDER. That is final, absloute, and not subject to change.
If SAPD tries to enforce the rule to /gu, they are going against server rules, and cops who enforce this will be copbanned. If a player does /hail or says "I give up" or surrenders in any other way and then rund, he faces a ban.
Clear enough ?
As an SAPD member i was always were under the impression "no /gu no deal" and alot of SAPD members do this....I never read or heard of this rule until today
learn to read...Memo Update
San Andreas Police Department
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This is a small notice regarding suspects who have surrendered (using /gu script function) and suspects who have given up by means of /hail, "I surrender!" in chat, etc.
By words of the President, whenever any suspects gives up (whether it be using /gu or saying "I surrender") they must go with the officer. If the suspect says that they give up they do NOT have the right to run or assault the cops for the sake of roleplay. That means if a suspect pulls a "/hail and then combat from the ass" it is not allowed by the rules, as stated by Gandalf.
Investigations - Every suspect has the right to an investigation except when there are no officers available to preform one. Also, if a suspect does not wish to have an investigation he has the right to be jailed immediately."Cops are required to operate with dignity and concern for the life of everyone, including that of a suspect. However that does not mean they have to accept being ignored or treated like dirt." - President RonnelSigned,
Deputy Chief Vice