Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: xu1gua on October 14, 2010, 07:00:45 pm
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Today i've noticed about new ARPD scripts, five hundred dollars for killing and thousand five hundreds for jailing suspect. First off I though cool, as there were online only 33 people. As now came online, when there was 88 people, I was suprising shocked. There were 3/4 of server cops! and much more abusiness then never before! I though maybe its due bigger payments that they get? Anyway I went on duty myself, as I saw people being suspected every five seconds, as I see in my police radio. I think it was clearly good before bigger payments then now. Anyway I think maybe ARPD officer should get normal payments and SAPD employers as it is now, 500$ for killing and 1500$ for jailing? Drop your vote here, and you keep discussion over this topic about new script.
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I think the new payments are good but i even didnt go on cop duty but noticed that there wer much suspects, (dont want to make this to a report but) and crminal scum was just suspecting evrybody for speeding and then he shot immediatley at the suspect by drive by'ing with smg on a nrg! i was pulling someone over after i suspected him and scum came and killed the sus AND me ! while the sus was still standing and we're talkinf, but anyway back to topic. tbere wer A LOT of abuses today... i said it b4 even when the payments were lower: everybody should make a test before hes able to go on cop duty, and they should be a time registered.
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(dont want to make this to a report but) and crminal scum was just suspecting evrybody for speeding and then he shot immediatley at the suspect by drive by'ing with smg on a nrg!
He has been dealt with, so don't worry. :)
And about the script update.. I actually haven't seen that much changed behaviour. Actually I think that the 1500 for jailing is way better. It looks (and is) really a lot and due to that, I think cops will more try to catch a suspect and jail him, since they will earn a lot more then.
First jailing was 600, now 1500. So roughly 3 times more.
Killing was first 100, now 500.. which is 5 times more. Killing a suspect should be increased with the same factor as for jailing. So that the cop will receive 250-300 for killing.
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Was already good enough!
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Time to make money!! :m4:
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Even old payment was over rated and now its.. As a medic or fireman,u need to work at least 5-6 hours to earn 1500$ and yesterday in 30 mins i earned 9k just for jailing suspects on server with 30 players.. :roll: :roll:
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I still support not getting ANY money for killing.
And for /jail - hmm, what about .... 500?$
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Not too pysched about this one.... I sense something bad happening in the future with this system.
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I still support not getting ANY money for killing.
And for /jail - hmm, what about .... 500?$
This
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I mean, come on murder a suspect is like ... doing something bad aswell and it's the easiest way and you get even money iwith it, so why not?!
I even tend to kill someone who is running, when I need some money to buy food or respray the car...so I just do pewpew.
I think killing should not be awarded, but jailing should - so then killing someone is useless, and you need to RP more.
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I mean, come on murder a suspect is like ... doing something bad aswell and it's the easiest way and you get even money iwith it, so why not?!
I even tend to kill someone who is running, when I need some money to buy food or respray the car...so I just do pewpew.
I think killing should not be awarded, but jailing should - so then killing someone is useless, and you need to RP more.
Exactly!
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The Money does not matter However I will be bringing a Idea to the SAPD Command Staff about the abuse of /su and shooting the suspects for 500$ soon.
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I voted wrong.
Why should ARPD Officers / Freecops get less pay?
If they removed the money it'd be much better.
Xcasio gave everyone a 13k payday, which was nice but.. I can make that as a cop easily :trust:
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I still support not getting ANY money for killing.
And for /jail - hmm, what about .... 500?$
I agree with this, but i have no problem with the current scripts :)
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For the abusive cops, gather evidence and email them to [email protected]
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I don't do the job for the money. I just find Police work in Argonath interesting and fun.
If I wanted money I would go sell drugs or something.
Which is another reason why I don't get people call cops money hungry.
Honestly, What the hell are you going to do with $100, fill up the car with fuel?
Or hell, what are $500? Not much you can do with it.
Any amount of money will suffice.
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I don't do the job for the money. I just find Police work in Argonath interesting and fun.
If I wanted money I would go sell drugs or something.
Which is another reason why I don't get people call cops money hungry.
Honestly, What the hell are you going to do with $100, fill up the car with fuel?
Or hell, what are $500? Not much you can do with it.
Any amount of money will suffice.
Well said. I use the money i make (usually i use my own) to arm myself and Fix my Car and Fill it up lol. I think this new payment method is decent because the 500 can cover for some armour now or we can fix our cars AND fill it up. Its such a blessing to have choices :) . Although i still do spend like 10k a day on Armour, guns, repairs, fuel etc which is fine because i do police work for fun and to roleplay with people. If i didn't i'd be on Paruni lol. Well said though Boozman.
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Criminals say "abusive cops" but also do fight to the death just so the cop earns less...
And don't tell me that no-one does it, or "only abusers do it" - it's being done by criminals, period.
Jail should be n* more than killing a suspect, and the reward should depend on how bad the criminal was (by kills, not by time when wanted).
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Hilarious,while a taxi driver and medic do there job ,need to drive around, asking ppl need taxi?/need heal? ,just get max 100 or sth from the person while a cop can just su people and kill them or pm "let ,me jail you, i give 200 back"
the most funniest thing is that cop will stay around ,observe what we do, come and question us ,if we dont respond ,then charge us for "Not complying".Rp?nah,"they are just a bunch of G' killing them is much more easy to get money rather than rp with them "
Hmmmm...no offense......no wonder new comer ask "how to be a cop"rather than "how to rp"...
Agree with Nexxt said,killing should not get award and also,even a free cop,tested is needed
(even we need a passport and license to get car/house which seldom affect others playing, a cop who maintain the safety,order, needs to follow rules,order and regulation,but they dont need to be tested on it??) I am not moaning,I am just saying truth,sorting it out in a better way.Hmmm for those who think , " Chaska just saying Bulls*t ,he is a noob ,DMer" just simply ignore my post.I am not play for status/money or w/e,i just play for friendship and fun.to make the playing more fun?In my opinion,something has to be done,
PS :for people who say"see abusive cop?Report to the email(i cant even remember) "One cop die,new cop born".this is just a cycle,and its not one or two isolated cases..so you expecting me open a outlook express while playing,see the abuser,alt-tab, print-screen,write down his name come back IG?report to admin?some will ban players with little investigation saying"Man,There are thousand of report,How do i suppose to investigate a long time?its not my fault,there are thousand of report which just I only admin here"I dont want other be a victim on that....... if report all cop abuser to admin,see what the situation will become :(
Kings regard
Chaska_Aregas
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The community (escpescially the newer ones) see this as a new way to make big cash... The first days they'll find out what they can or cannot do with it, it's up to us to teach them how it works and that suspecting for wrong reasons might result in bad consuqences.
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Hilarious,while a taxi driver and medic do there job ,need to drive around, asking ppl need taxi?/need heal? ,just get max 100 or sth from the person while a cop can just su people and kill them or pm "let ,me jail you, i give 200 back"
the most funniest thing is that cop will stay around ,observe what we do, come and question us ,if we dont respond ,then charge us for "Not complying".Rp?nah,"they are just a bunch of G' killing them is much more easy to get money rather than rp with them "
Hmmmm...no offense......no wonder new comer ask "how to be a cop"rather than "how to rp"...
Agree with Nexxt said,killing should not get award and also,even a free cop,tested is needed
(even we need a passport and license to get car/house which seldom affect others playing, a cop who maintain the safety,order, needs to follow rules,order and regulation,but they dont need to be tested on it??) I am not moaning,I am just saying truth,sorting it out in a better way.Hmmm for those who think , " Chaska just saying Bulls*t ,he is a noob ,DMer" just simply ignore my post.I am not play for status/money or w/e,i just play for friendship and fun.to make the playing more fun?In my opinion,something has to be done,
PS :for people who say"see abusive cop?Report to the email(i cant even remember) "One cop die,new cop born".this is just a cycle,and its not one or two isolated cases..so you expecting me open a outlook express while playing,see the abuser,alt-tab, print-screen,write down his name come back IG?report to admin?some will ban players with little investigation saying"Man,There are thousand of report,How do i suppose to investigate a long time?its not my fault,there are thousand of report which just I only admin here"I dont want other be a victim on that....... if report all cop abuser to admin,see what the situation will become :(
Kings regard
Chaska_Aregas
Finally someone said it! Too true and too sad in same time.
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a cop can just su people and kill them or pm "let ,me jail you, i give 200 back"
Cops can't "just /su" - they need to see a player committing a crime.
cop will stay around ,observe what we do, come and question us ,if we dont respond ,then charge us for "Not complying"
Don't ignore cops then. Don't use the "omg another freecop, I'm going to ignore him because he can't RP, maybe he will go somewhere else" logic.
I'm not even considering "not responding" as going AFK - you can /q instead, then you can't be suspected.
no wonder new comer ask "how to be a cop"rather than "how to rp"...
You're another "expert" that REQUIRES players to know what's role-play and all the rules.
And the problem is not the question, but the answer. People don't explain how to play properly as a cop, they just "/jobhelp", thinking they've helped.
"One cop die,new cop born"
Too bad new born cops are orphans with no parents to teach them morals...
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Cops can't "just /su" - they need to see a player committing a crime.
Don't ignore cops then. Don't use the "omg another freecop, I'm going to ignore him because he can't RP, maybe he will go somewhere else" logic.
I'm not even considering "not responding" as going AFK - you can /q instead, then you can't be suspected.
You're another "expert" that REQUIRES players to know what's role-play and all the rules.
And the problem is not the question, but the answer. People don't explain how to play properly as a cop, they just "/jobhelp", thinking they've helped.
Too bad new born cops are orphans with no parents to teach them morals...
all the thing can be solved by making up a test for cop. as i said even buying house/car need to pass a series of test,I dont see why there are no test for cop which the job will affect others
"You're another "expert" that REQUIRES players to know what's role-play and all the rules."
Hmmmm?Have i say that I am expert?I just telling what I see from the /p and I think this behind have some reason,rather than saying the thing you think .....I m just simply citing a fact and saying what i think behind the sentence rather than making endless conclusion there.
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Why the heck should SAPD be more important and get more money than ARPD?
If your a high rank Mark Linely then maybe your just jelous of freecops(ARPD) and wan't to see us earning less, if SAPD got more money I bet applications would rise like heck. I've seen more ABUSE from SAPD than I have from Freecops(ARPD).
If anything to stop high ranks going money hungry SAPD should get LESS, if SAPD got less money it would prevent officers from going corrupt/moneyhungry, you've applied for SAPD for certain reasons, but I bet you didn't put on your application "I wan't to join SAPD to earn more money", if you did say htis you would get DENIED and I'm not just saying this because I've recently been abused OVER AND OVER AND OVER by SAPD highranks, I don't even go on duty myself, I went on duty yesterday to help a freind earn money for a house. I would never apply for SAPD as it's a waste of time when you do just the same thing as a freecop(ARPD) so why should we all earn different?
Make SAPD get less money to stop corruptivity and money hungryness on duty! NOT ARPD!
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Hilarious,while a taxi driver and medic do there job ,need to drive around, asking ppl need taxi?/need heal? ,just get max 100 or sth from the person while a cop can just su people and kill them or pm "let ,me jail you, i give 200 back"
the most funniest thing is that cop will stay around ,observe what we do, come and question us ,if we dont respond ,then charge us for "Not complying".Rp?nah,"they are just a bunch of G' killing them is much more easy to get money rather than rp with them "
Hmmmm...no offense......no wonder new comer ask "how to be a cop"rather than "how to rp"...
Agree with Nexxt said,killing should not get award and also,even a free cop,tested is needed
(even we need a passport and license to get car/house which seldom affect others playing, a cop who maintain the safety,order, needs to follow rules,order and regulation,but they dont need to be tested on it??) I am not moaning,I am just saying truth,sorting it out in a better way.Hmmm for those who think , " Chaska just saying Bulls*t ,he is a noob ,DMer" just simply ignore my post.I am not play for status/money or w/e,i just play for friendship and fun.to make the playing more fun?In my opinion,something has to be done,
PS :for people who say"see abusive cop?Report to the email(i cant even remember) "One cop die,new cop born".this is just a cycle,and its not one or two isolated cases..so you expecting me open a outlook express while playing,see the abuser,alt-tab, print-screen,write down his name come back IG?report to admin?some will ban players with little investigation saying"Man,There are thousand of report,How do i suppose to investigate a long time?its not my fault,there are thousand of report which just I only admin here"I dont want other be a victim on that....... if report all cop abuser to admin,see what the situation will become :(
Kings regard
Chaska_Aregas
I AGREE! Medics and taxi drivers work MUCH MUCH MUCH harder than ARPD/SAPD have to, police basicly get money handed to them, where as stated by Chaska medics have to drive around asking people if they want heal where they then just get told "NO" and taxi drivers sit there for ages just waiting for a call, firemen on the other hand - wait like 2hours for 1 mission to start and only get like $526 (THATS LESS THAN THE AVERAGE ARPD/SAPD COP EARN IN 5MINS).
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Son, you messing SAPD with ARPD, and application would rise but there's tests my son.. Anyway I am medic so I am in no one side, I just wanna tell you, that SAPD was always hard working and they deserve more payment. There's lieutenants or captains which were working like one or two years to get such high rank, and there's freecop who are on duty one day to get money.
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Son, you messing SAPD with ARPD, and application would rise but there's tests my son.. Anyway I am medic so I am in no one side, I just wanna tell you, that SAPD was always hard working and they deserve more payment. There's lieutenants or captains which were working like one or two years to get such high rank, and there's freecop who are on duty one day to get money.
Notice how you said WAS, what is it a downfall after CBFasi left SAPD? This topic really pissed me off, if you apply for SAPD make sure its for ROLEPLAY not money, it annoys me when people think SAPD is any more important than ARPD. Well I have something to say and that is that SAPD has more corruptness than ARPD, and I respect alot of SAPD's ranks but lately SAPD has gone rubbish when it comes to roleplay and something needs to be done about it, I couldnt even say something about SAPD that wasnt provocation yesterday without admins over using commands on me (Just saying, not moaning about admins), I tried to walk from Pershing to Ganton yesterday, but do you think I could? I got ran down 2 times purposly by SAPD, suspected by ARPD for "hitted my car" but that wasnt abuse I did hit his car :lol: I was RPing nicely with the freecop until SAPD came, then it was all SHOOT SHOOT SHOOT, I wasnt even armed yet SAPD was blasting guns at me, so I did /hurt 2 only to get sprayed to death on the floor by SAPD, seems like their RP skills have got a little less than ok.
Seriously demote nearly ALL Officer- and have a rethink about whos worthy of SAPD.
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Doesn't worry me. I spend all my money on events anyway.
Also,
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lollol
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Notice how you said WAS, what is it a downfall after CBFasi left SAPD? This topic really pissed me off, if you apply for SAPD make sure its for ROLEPLAY not money, it annoys me when people think SAPD is any more important than ARPD. Well I have something to say and that is that SAPD has more corruptness than ARPD, and I respect alot of SAPD's ranks but lately SAPD has gone rubbish when it comes to roleplay and something needs to be done about it, I couldnt even say something about SAPD that wasnt provocation yesterday without admins over using commands on me (Just saying, not moaning about admins), I tried to walk from Pershing to Ganton yesterday, but do you think I could? I got ran down 2 times purposly by SAPD, suspected by ARPD for "hitted my car" but that wasnt abuse I did hit his car :lol: I was RPing nicely with the freecop until SAPD came, then it was all SHOOT SHOOT SHOOT, I wasnt even armed yet SAPD was blasting guns at me, so I did /hurt 2 only to get sprayed to death on the floor by SAPD, seems like their RP skills have got a little less than ok.
Seriously demote nearly ALL Officer- and have a rethink about whos worthy of SAPD.
My son, you was shooting everyone while no one saw with your deagle, same did to me.
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Hmm,,for me I am saying generally to "Blue" here,I am not try to figure out SAPD,ARPD ABCD whatever,I am suggesting a general Test for people who want there name to be "blue"..How can a citizen get to know who are you from? (in fact maybe can work it out by restrict different skin that which PD can only wear)
By carrying out test for being cop,
1)Enhance quality of police generally(,hmm step forward,reduce abuse)
2)Enhance the rp from cop side
3)Can facilitate Cop trainning and recruitinng of cop (in fact you want to be police, you have to pass cop exams IRL)
4)can increase the effect of ranks inside PD,only high officier or chief can do the test and in fact like cmb one
5)rebuild the reputation of police force and hopefully same good image like FBI,SWAT, a(s FBI,SWAT need a tough test, SWAT,FBI are regard as a good rp group)
The server owners have said many times that this won't happen.
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How about make it more RP and if you kil a suspect you don't get money at all?
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How about make it more RP and if you kil a suspect you don't get money at all?
Criminals will keep fighting to death and never surrender, just so cops don't earn nothing.
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I mean, come on murder a suspect is like ... doing something bad aswell and it's the easiest way and you get even money iwith it, so why not?!
I even tend to kill someone who is running, when I need some money to buy food or respray the car...so I just do pewpew.
I think killing should not be awarded, but jailing should - so then killing someone is useless, and you need to RP more.
So if a suspect is shooting me, I watch him and do nothing? What if he doesn't want to surrender? Think more man.
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Then you kill him, but still you do not earn money with that.
I think I am the one here, who knows the cop part better then you as SAPD Sergeant, mister Stracci.
As you just did your job, I mean criminals don't get money for killing cops either...
You have to kill, when you need to kill - but my idea on the scripts supports trying to jail earlier.
And yeah, if someone is shooting you...you will shoot the suspect but won't earn money and maybe an idea to let the suspect lose $250 or something.
So they will try to give up or escape earlier on (as the RHL time is maybe to be shortened).
In my opinion, closer to the possiblity to a RP and less triggering on "killing".
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Criminals will keep fighting to death and never surrender, just so cops don't earn nothing.
so?...Cop main aim is to earn money?
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Criminals will keep fighting to death and never surrender, just so cops don't earn nothing.
Sure. I'd rather lose 5k of weaponry and armour just so you don't earn anything. Get real.
You shouldn't be relying on being a cop for money anyway you should only be doing it to RP a cop.
We don't earn shit so quit your bitching.
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so?...Cop main aim is to earn money?
You shouldn't be relying on being a cop for money anyway you should only be doing it to RP a cop.
It's a JOB, you're SUPPOSED to earn money from it.
Since ALWAYS being police work was the main money income source for players. One player chased another, both had fun from the chase itself, not from the actual "winning or losing". Then they switched roles and the second chased the first. Worked fine. But then, the z0mg mafias came in and z0mg you can't earn a dime while being a criminal...
lol z0mg can be used like a swear word! get off my z0mg lawn you z0mg trespasser!
We don't earn shit
Yeah, let suspects earn money for killing cops then!
Too bad criminals think that "SUSPECT" is also a job and should earn them money.
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Suspects are created BY cops. If you don't like suspects, then stop suspecting people.
You don't deserve money for killing criminals as killing a criminal poses no effort whatsoever.
You should EARN it, not be given it for having 1337 dm skilzz.
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He has been dealt with, so don't worry. :)
And about the script update.. I actually haven't seen that much changed behaviour. Actually I think that the 1500 for jailing is way better. It looks (and is) really a lot and due to that, I think cops will more try to catch a suspect and jail him, since they will earn a lot more then.
First jailing was 600, now 1500. So roughly 3 times more.
Killing was first 100, now 500.. which is 5 times more. Killing a suspect should be increased with the same factor as for jailing. So that the cop will receive 250-300 for killing.
Mikro before officers drive in cop cars whit duty weapons,now when payments are higher people change to SRU wanabe ,they drive buffalos whit armors,and also got combats,spas,smg and somthing more . I mean it's like armored army ,couple whit bad rp knowledge and this just end for hell,and you cant more try be rp criminal,cause your ass will be shooted down,of thoose great payments in cop duty.
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It's a JOB, you're SUPPOSED to earn money from it.
Since ALWAYS being police work was the main money income source for players. One player chased another, both had fun from the chase itself, not from the actual "winning or losing". Then they switched roles and the second chased the first. Worked fine. But then, the z0mg mafias came in and z0mg you can't earn a dime while being a criminal...
lol z0mg can be used like a swear word! get off my z0mg lawn you z0mg trespasser!
Yeah, let suspects earn money for killing cops then!
Too bad criminals think that "SUSPECT" is also a job and should earn them money.
For me?I don't care what police can get when killing a suspect,it's still appreciated and respected if police done their job properly.
but what I see is raising money for killing will increase the interest for police open fire easily...
What properly means when kill is needed,its enforced,when its Rp/Investigation needed ,do it rather than ..spam local chat /gu!!./gu!! ...(They don't even say give up LMAO)
once again,I am not the one who play for money so I really don't care what i lost if i was killed..but...once again....is that a cop should show some patient to suspect,even a little...
Yea,Cop is a job ,but only those who work properly deserve a pay back, there's always no doubt ,but as JOB means,if one failed,one will be fired .......
and other tip:if you want investigate,Don't go to the backdoor of LSPD.if they do so..ask them if they mind to Front Door.coz some will /jail you immediately when you entered backdoor :P
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@Romeo and ChasKa
Cops have RULES for suspecting. If they break them - report.
Unless you do something that cops can suspect you for, they can't suspect you. If you do - /gu to not lose time and don't do it again.
(more @ Romeo)
And why should cops not earn if they kill a mass murderer and cop killer psychopath and mastermind that's dangerous to society?
Maybe if cops kill a 1-star criminal they shouldn't get money, OK, that's a compromise. But if someone's a killer - neutralizing him w/ deadly force should also be rewarded.
(more @ ChasKa)
You're requiring from new players to know all regulations and smallest rules, and perform actions that YOU only let them.
Cops shout "gu"? It's understandable. If cops shout "stop or I will shoot!", before they finish they're going to be dead or left in a cloud of dirt left by the speeding off criminal.
Catching a suspect is proper enough. Why complicate a GAME? This ain't real life.
jailing straight from back door? Post in bug reports to fix - cops are meant to jail only when the suspect is directly at the cell.
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@Romeo and ChasKa
Cops have RULES for suspecting. If they break them - report.
Unless you do something that cops can suspect you for, they can't suspect you. If you do - /gu to not lose time and don't do it again.
(more @ Romeo)
And why should cops not earn if they kill a mass murderer and cop killer psychopath and mastermind that's dangerous to society?
Maybe if cops kill a 1-star criminal they shouldn't get money, OK, that's a compromise. But if someone's a killer - neutralizing him w/ deadly force should also be rewarded.
(more @ ChasKa)
You're requiring from new players to know all regulations and smallest rules, and perform actions that YOU only let them.
Cops shout "gu"? It's understandable. If cops shout "stop or I will shoot!", before they finish they're going to be dead or left in a cloud of dirt left by the speeding off criminal.
Catching a suspect is proper enough. Why complicate a GAME? This ain't real life.
jailing straight from back door? Post in bug reports to fix - cops are meant to jail only when the suspect is directly at the cell.
Hmm,maybe you mixed up "cop and citizen"
for citizen- new comer is not required to get a good knowledge of rules,as they are new,they still need to be nurtured and taught the basic principle to play here....so Still its my honor to teach them ,,(i aint saying I am a Pro,just share my experince to them)
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yes,I want a cop to better known to regulation and rules,why not? A cop is affecting everyone moves,As i said even you need a passport .license to buy house/car which dont affect others ,
Why there's no test on for cop? Cop power is dangerous when its not proper monitor
And ,Its just a game,why I take it so serious? Hmmm,yes its a game,Why I cant take it serious as I want it be serious?
Take it serious doesnt mean that I take it as my burden,still playing seriosu can bring me fun ...
Just like you play a football game,play it in serious manner doesnt mean you cant enjoy it, still you can enjoy the game even you take it in srs manner
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Mikro before officers drive in cop cars whit duty weapons,now when payments are higher people change to SRU wanabe ,they drive buffalos whit armors,and also got combats,spas,smg and somthing more . I mean it's like armored army ,couple whit bad rp knowledge and this just end for hell,and you cant more try be rp criminal,cause your ass will be shooted down,of thoose great payments in cop duty.
I have never said I like this change. :D
And anyways, I don't care about money.
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He has been dealt with, so don't worry. :)
And about the script update.. I actually haven't seen that much changed behaviour. Actually I think that the 1500 for jailing is way better. It looks (and is) really a lot and due to that, I think cops will more try to catch a suspect and jail him, since they will earn a lot more then.
First jailing was 600, now 1500. So roughly 3 times more.
Killing was first 100, now 500.. which is 5 times more. Killing a suspect should be increased with the same factor as for jailing. So that the cop will receive 250-300 for killing.
+1
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Why medic ,taxi cant earn more money then too? They also got a hard job.
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Why medic ,taxi cant earn more money then too? They also got a hard job.
Ah,No,no,no. If you are cop on argonath,you are god,if you are anything else,you are nothing.
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how about we remove all cash earn for cops and see what 'roleplayers' stay as a cop, Probably half the server will not be blue anymore.
I find it funny how people are so blind. I have been both criminal and cop. And I can tell you, being a cop is much easier and less stressful [with the exclude of the real jobs as in Chief and such] than being a criminal.
I got an idea... for 1 daY, all mafia / criminal groups go on cop duty and all cops must be cop banned for the day and we get a chance to do what they do - so they can feel how its like to be a criminal, and lose cash | and so criminals can learn what its like constantly chasing someone and getting killed, but also so the cops can feel how its like to get abused and lose cash, and for criminals to exzperience its not really easy as 'boom boom' when being a cop.
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My son, you was shooting everyone while no one saw with your deagle, same did to me.
Stop calling me son, it's disrespectful, ALL members of Argonath should be equal, other wise it's just unfair.....
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Biggest problem is players playing ONLY one side.
As said before, players back in the day could take turns in chasing one another, and there weren't any problems. One catched another, and they switched roles.
Problems started to occur when mafias [single/constantly played roles] started to establish.
Cops "money hungry"? Don't come close to them.
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Biggest problem is players playing ONLY one side.
As said before, players back in the day could take turns in chasing one another, and there weren't any problems. One catched another, and they switched roles.
Problems started to occur when mafias [single/constantly played roles] started to establish.
Cops "money hungry"? Don't come close to them.
wtf? do you have 3 different people type your post? ''Biggest problem is players playing ONLY one side." "Cops ''moneyhungry''? Don't come close to them.''
Have you ever played a criminal, where the cops can FORCE you into roleplay? probably not.
god try though
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JUST REMOVE ALL MONEY THAT YOU CAN EARN ON COP DUTY! MAKE IT PURE ROLEPLAY, then theres no money hungryness!
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I think this is a disgusting idea and you should be ashamed of yourself.
'All men are equal, but some are more equal than others' - Read this quote, this idea is again insulting ARPD officers when some of them are better than some higher ranks. I have seen many ARPD officers using correct procedure and I have seen officers just shooting without attempting to RP.
Be ashamed, be very ashamed...
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Just remove the cop payments, or put it back to what it was.
This just screwed things up.
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Remove the Cop Payment .
It's a RP faction not Money Faction .
~ Anthony
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Ask CBFasi who asked for this change. :)
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I today was afk,when come back i was suspect for evade the law (lol) ,so afther people saw im orangie ,my pm got spamed by cops let i jail you,you get 200$ back ,that shows how people are money hungry,and you just feed them whit new payment.
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Something similar happen to me about 10 times in last few days. Pulled over and then /su for speeding/evading/reckless driving and then shooting/DMing 0.5 sec after /su. I'm totally sure that no one here want removement of payment just because they dont want to that cop to earn. Here people just asking for some balance at least ( if we know that some things will never change about cops ) because as a cop in 1hour you can earn whole payment of medic/fireman/taxi driver who works whole day. Even on old payment system was like that and now its just worse.
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Cops "money hungry"? Don't come close to them.
Hhmmmmm....I don't know who other,but for me,its usually they come close to us and camp there.
Also,I agree with you ,Cop is a job,and Job deserve paid.
But,a job doesn't mean you "must" get pay unless you do it properly.
Some cop resort their anger on /su like "Ramming my car" though sometime its his fault like drive at wrong lane.What This case is not a isolated cases or I make it up.thats real,happen everyday .
Once again,power force just like a wave,it can push you forward and at the same time,it can push you backward and even flip over your boat.
So at least there should be some standard for applying cop job.Here I am not saying cop cant commit their fault,human is human,Everyone make mistakes,and as human, that is considerable.But for what the situation nowadays cant be excused.
The inconvenience police bring is mainly come from the system itself.(No test for cop,Not enough police teacher and No clear regulation for Police)
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@Romeo and ChasKa
Cops have RULES for suspecting. If they break them - report.
Unless you do something that cops can suspect you for, they can't suspect you. If you do - /gu to not lose time and don't do it again.
Yea,I totally agree police suspect system have a clear and strict regulation,however,are police stay to it tightly all time long?IN actual fact,how many times we seen in "ABCD has been warded/kicked/tempbanned for /su abuse." its lucky when admin here and can cancel our wanted,but sometimes,admin is too busy or unavailable for doing this. Yea, abused is abused,no one will compensate you if your abused and killed.
Once again
this is just a cycle,and its not one or two isolated cases..so you expecting me open a outlook express while playing,see the abuser,alt-tab,(Oh no i need to exit the game when afk ,if I get suspected during this time.no one will feel sorry for me and I will be a fool to moan here) print-screen,write down his name come back IG? Abuse cop is not my fault,why you need to punish me bring me this trouble.
"If you think its trouble then just simply dont report and live with it ,kid"
For real,If I think its trouble,then I just live with it......but can you stay on my side? Its not I dont want to go report,its I dont know What report is used....aight copban the guy and then all things cool...you sure?
Its just a cycle,
A be cop,dont know the rules,
B report ,
A get copbanned
C be a cop,Dont know the rules,
B report
C get copbanned
hilarious endless cycle :hurray:
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And copbann is in 90% cases temporarry so here we go again :D
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Have you ever played a criminal, where the cops can FORCE you into roleplay? probably not.
Indeed. No, I have never played as a criminal where the cops can "FORCE" me into role-play. Cops never FORCED me to anything, excluding following them to jail after surrendering. But I comply anyway.
If I attract cops' attention (eg. they want to pull me over), it's because I clearly did something (eg. reckless driving).
for me,its usually they come close to us and camp there.
Cops in yo' hood - go somewhere else.
Here I am not saying cop cant commit their fault,human is human,Everyone make mistakes,and as human, that is considerable.But for what the situation nowadays cant be excused.
"I'm not fucking swearing for fucks sake!" - makes same sense as your posts here.
You're saying that cops can make mistakes, but you want to make them do a test before being able to go on duty so they don't make mistakes.
Read sticky topics:
III. Ideas that most likely going to be denied
2. Ideas based on restricting players from doing something. Especially new players and freecops ARPD officers.
Example: Don't allow new players to go on cop duty until they play for a week.
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Indeed. No, I have never played as a criminal where the cops can "FORCE" me into role-play. Cops never FORCED me to anything, excluding following them to jail after surrendering. But I comply anyway.
If I attract cops' attention (eg. they want to pull me over), it's because I clearly did something (eg. reckless driving).
Cops in yo' hood - go somewhere else.
"I'm not f**king swearing for f**ks sake!" - makes same sense as your posts here.
You're saying that cops can make mistakes, but you want to make them do a test before being able to go on duty so they don't make mistakes.
Read sticky topics:
Man, Think more ,To some extends its considerable for cop to make mistake
But,How can the mistake be made becasue of the same cases,same person who deliberate commit it ,
A typical case is a cop get Ajailed,Warned,Kicked by Truth yestersday.yea,I cannot tolerate this kind of repeatedly mistakes
For real , a cop come in front of my property.........camp at where my house located, Oh yea, its my house ,10 cop come asking me same question 10 times! Yea i should run in order to not get Suspect oh no get evade yo'
nice Cop power yo' They are the boss who need me comply with them for so-called "order "......
And no offense....whats the principal behind "deny :Don't allow new players to go on cop duty until they play for a week."
Whilst people are required to get house /car only if they have passport/license which require more than a week playing?
and need a series of selection/test for selection of SWAT/FBI?
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Indeed. No, I have never played as a criminal where the cops can "FORCE" me into role-play. Cops never FORCED me to anything, excluding following them to jail after surrendering. But I comply anyway.
Dude.
Cops force RP with bullshit like "Routine Check".
I was driving my car, following the speed limit as a matter of fact, where 4 cops just pulled me over for a routine check.
Result, I had to RP, and I did not make it to the player-hosted event in time.
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For real , a cop come in front of my property.........camp at where my house located, Oh yea, its my house ,10 cop come asking me same question 10 times!
You're either exaggerating the story, not showing the full story (since cops don't randomly camp at peoples' houses), or you're paranoid and think every cop is after YOU.
I was driving my car, following the speed limit
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I did not make it to the player-hosted event in time.
If you were in a hurry to an event, I doubt you were driving with the speed limit... Or maybe you slowed down AFTER cops saw you speeding?
Or maybe you wasted time on arguing with the cops and prolonging the stop, instead of letting the check go smooth...
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You're either exaggerating the story, not showing the full story (since cops don't randomly camp at peoples' houses), or you're paranoid and think every cop is after YOU.
If you were in a hurry to an event, I doubt you were driving with the speed limit... Or maybe you slowed down AFTER cops saw you speeding?
Or maybe you wasted time on arguing with the cops and prolonging the stop, instead of letting the check go smooth...
exaggerating the story,? No
and its not my own make up "to make cop look fool" or w/e
Whats DHR 's fact he cites is 100% true
and maybe try change your name let yourself be a "new unknown player" and try out what is happening to the police.....
hmmm...maybe you will have a better understanding I think
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True fact: cops follow you to look for reasons for a suspection, doesn't matter what you do... They'll make something up.
- Your car is broken...
- you stolen a state car.
- You killed a dog...
- he saw you yesterday driving on the sidewalk
- Routine checks
- You're going too slow...
- You're going too fast...
Regardless what you do, you're always breaking some law! - I got used to it, you'll do too :razz:
Deny it, and you'll get:
- Lying to a police officer.
- Disrespecting a police officer.
- Evading...
- Bad mouthing...
- Annoying a police officer.
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True fact: cops follow you to look for reasons for a suspection, doesn't matter what you do... They'll make something up.
- Your car is broken...
- you stolen a state car.
- You killed a dog...
- he saw you yesterday driving on the sidewalk
- Routine checks
- You're going too slow...
- You're going too fast...
Regardless what you do, you're always breaking some law! - I got used to it, you'll do too :razz:
Deny it, and you'll get:
- Lying to a police officer.
- Disrespecting a police officer.
- Evading...
- Bad mouthing...
- Annoying a police officer.
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+1
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You criminals moan too damn much
you say we dont see your side of situation, BUT do you f**king see our side?
As an SAPD member there are soo many regulations thats holding you back when on duty, whereas a criminal YOU can do all the f**k you want as long as you stay within server rules..
shall i stop now?
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True fact: cops follow you to look for reasons for a suspection, doesn't matter what you do... They'll make something up.
- Your car is broken...
- you stolen a state car.
- You killed a dog...
- he saw you yesterday driving on the sidewalk
- Routine checks
- You're going too slow...
- You're going too fast...
Regardless what you do, you're always breaking some law! - I got used to it, you'll do too :razz:
Deny it, and you'll get:
- Lying to a police officer.
- Disrespecting a police officer.
- Evading...
- Bad mouthing...
- Annoying a police officer.
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This is actually true as i lived it while undercover.
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True fact: cops follow you to look for reasons for a suspection, doesn't matter what you do... They'll make something up.
- Your car is broken...
- you stolen a state car.
- You killed a dog...
- he saw you yesterday driving on the sidewalk
- Routine checks
- You're going too slow...
- You're going too fast...
Regardless what you do, you're always breaking some law! - I got used to it, you'll do too :razz:
Deny it, and you'll get:
- Lying to a police officer.
- Disrespecting a police officer.
- Evading...
- Bad mouthing...
- Annoying a police officer.
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I've gotten this BS:
Stolen car
Routine check
Reckless driving yesterday
Going too slow
Going too fast
I might be a suspect in a murder (even though I'm 'white-name', and haven't killed anyone)
Swerving (Pff, more like switching from one lane to another WITHIN the same side of the lane)
Driving on the wrong side (More like trying to avoid ramming your stupid ass when you're parked in the middle of the road)
When I try to explain what actually happened...
- Lying to a police officer.
- Disrespecting a police officer.
- Evading...
- Bad mouthing...
- Annoying a police officer.
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Oh and, don't forget "Detained for investigation!"
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As long as there are rewards for being a cop, many of them will do what they can to incriminate you, and get rewarded.
I dont support cops getting paid to kill and jail suspects. They should be cops because they like to RP a cop and enjoy it. NOT because " lolz, i need money".
Cops dont lose any money when they die, so why are they being rewarded? That means if you go on cop duty there is a 100% chance of making profit, no matter how many times you die, you wont lose any money.
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rp it and gtfo with your zomfg 1337 rper payments
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Make SAPD get less money to stop corruptivity and money hungryness on duty! NOT ARPD!
lol
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Dude.
Cops force RP with bullshit like "Routine Check".
I was driving my car, following the speed limit as a matter of fact, where 4 cops just pulled me over for a routine check.
Result, I had to RP, and I did not make it to the player-hosted event in time.
Simple
Cops tells you to pullover
Cop steps outs
Walks to your window
Tells you can I see your passport and License
You / me gets the documents
then / me hands to officer
Cop / me takes
Cop / me reads
Cop / l Everything is seems to be ok
Cop / me hands back
You / me takes
Cop / l have a nice day
You / me drives off
Not more then 60 secs and its not forced RP
You choose to drive a car = you choose to RP routine checks
You speed = you choose to get pulled over and RP a speeding ticket
Dont wanna get pulled over for speeding or routine checks? Take a Taxi or a Helicopter or a Plane
Simple as 1 2 3
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Simple
Cops tells you to pullover
Cop steps outs
Walks to your window
Tells you can I see your passport and License
You / me gets the documents
then / me hands to officer
Cop / me takes
Cop / me reads
Cop / l Everything is seems to be ok
Cop / me hands back
You / me takes
Cop / l have a nice day
You / me drives off
Not more then 60 secs and its not forced RP
You choose to drive a car = you choose to RP routine checks
You speed = you choose to get pulled over and RP a speeding ticket
Dont wanna get pulled over for speeding or routine checks? Take a Taxi or a Helicopter or a Plane
Simple as 1 2 3
Taxi can evade the road law?
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As long as there are rewards for being a cop, many of them will do what they can to incriminate you, and get rewarded.
I dont support cops getting paid to kill and jail suspects. They should be cops because they like to RP a cop and enjoy it. NOT because " lolz, i need money".
Cops dont lose any money when they die, so why are they being rewarded? That means if you go on cop duty there is a 100% chance of making profit, no matter how many times you die, you wont lose any money.
I'm a cop for 7months (8 now)
And I barely make money. All I get is from few 2-3 arrests I make in a day (In which I do offer investigation - and roleplay properly)
And most of the money I make goes off in re-spraying my cruiser, arming up for special "Code 30s"
If you think its a lie, roleplay as a cop. Even if you have 1 mill, you'll notice you're buying guns lavishly only because of your own bank account and notice is deplishing considerably. I don't make money, but I don't keep asking around for it, because I'm here to RP as a cop (This point I agree with you).
But I do assure you cops do not make profit.
Also, I like the ARPD scripts, besides the fact that the officers could still roleplay their arrests( I always think there are scopes to improve RP and make game more interesting). Many officers still do roleplay.
Most of invited members of SAPD I've come across roleplay really well. Jcstodds is well known for this. STaTuz, I roleplay with him alot. Also F.Serin, Plam Knight, Leroy Hudson, Trane, Tim Freehold, [GP]Nancy, Anthony_Daw, Rint_Daw (Sorry if I miss few names out). But that gives you the idea. There are few more good RPers out of my timezone, whom unfortunately I haven't met yet due to my time differences.
There are also well roleplaying "ARPD Officers" (Or freecops) around like Jimmy Ross, Caiden(he was an ex SAPD I heard), Webster (.. and the list continues) :)
And since there aren't much "ARPD" topics around forums, I'll mention this here: I feel that policewoman skins are very less here..
I wish they'd add just two more skins to give us more variety, skin ID 93 and skin ID 211
(http://wiki.sa-mp.com/wroot/images2/4/4e/Skin_93.png) (http://wiki.sa-mp.com/wroot/images2/4/42/Skin_211.png)
I know many people say STAFF skin is casino skin, but seriously who uses it? I'd be of greater use in ARPD. The colour combination is perfect for a cop (And you can always add mods)
The ID 93 is a proper cop skin due to all its "black" coding.
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I don't see why freecops should get lower payments than the rest, as some of them actually enjoy the cop and want to help out so the other cops will accept them.
In fact, what I just described can also refer to me in my MTA:VC days. I had shitloads of fun chasing the Sforza mafia all over vice city and sparring with Jingle after he became SWAT and I became FBI for the first time.
As for the bullshit about forced RP... did any of you ever stop to think why clever people who use their brains get it easier than you who do nothing but moan?
Listen to Grzesiek's points... I may have been here for more than two years, but he was already an admin by the time I first stepped into Argonath. In fact, he taught me how to enter cars as a passenger. :lol:
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I don't see why freecops should get lower payments than the rest, as some of them actually enjoy the cop and want to help out so the other cops will accept them.
In fact, what I just described can also refer to me in my MTA:VC days. I had shitloads of fun chasing the Sforza mafia all over vice city and sparring with Jingle after he became SWAT and I became FBI for the first time.
As for the bullshit about forced RP... did any of you ever stop to think why clever people who use their brains get it easier than you who do nothing but moan?
Listen to Grzesiek's points... I may have been here for more than two years, but he was already an admin by the time I first stepped into Argonath. In fact, he taught me how to enter cars as a passenger. :lol:
Come online dude at evening and you relise that 80% server is blue names ,and not cause they love (rp) or they love cop job.
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It is because the cop JOB is currently the working class citizen's main avenue of income.
It's also how most new players start out on the server. I was once a freecop too.
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It's also how most new players start out on the server. I was once a freecop too.
Hell yeah, freecop Cdes...
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Hell yeah, freecop Cdes...
Damn you :(
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The money isn't a problem, i think the problem is the idea to make everybody can be cops, they're not trusted people so they must not have the rights to become cops, being cop isn't easy, you must be a professional to gain respect for SAPD that is why criminals doesn't respect cops or even fear them and by the way i heard in a movie that in my country when a cop arrests a drug dealer or someone doing illegal business he gets a new rank so what about a new rank for every suspect we arrest? I don't think it is a good idea so i think it is okay to gain a little bit more money, and it doesn't matter about the money because in the end it is just a game.
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The money isn't a problem, i think the problem is the idea to make everybody can be cops, they're not trusted people so they must not have the rights to become cops, being cop isn't easy, you must be a professional to gain respect for SAPD that is why criminals doesn't respect cops or even fear them and by the way i heard in a movie that in my country when a cop arrests a drug dealer or someone doing illegal business he gets a new rank so what about a new rank for every suspect we arrest? I don't think it is a good idea so i think it is okay to gain a little bit more money, and it doesn't matter about the money because in the end it is just a game.
Atleast someone understands.
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It is because the cop JOB is currently the working class citizen's main avenue of income.
It's also how most new players start out on the server. I was once a freecop too.
you still one :cop:
JDC rank is ARPD Officer
JDC FBI rank is....
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Atleast someone understands.
Thank you :roll: