Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Witchking on October 16, 2010, 06:05:24 pm
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Hello i wonder how much of the farm i bought i realy own in my Opion i own all marked in red in my Pictures since that what the location says in /area but people tell me different they say i only own the House lol why is that so if thats true.?
then this farm is not setted like it should be this farm and its owner shall own every little flower in the whole area of 'The farm'
thats why i make this topic to get my answer if i own everything i think i own because thats why i bought this since thats whats i want and if value is to low well bring the Revalue on.
Money is not a problem and as fast as Possible
i like spending my days hunting away intruders that tries to steal my weed from my Plants i got on the farm that belong to me-
So i let the pictures speak for them selfes what i want in the value if its not calculated in it already
thanks\Mr T
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You are supposed to own the whole field there D:
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he has only said that due to the fact a weed field is there and he will be suing people for trespassing when they grow weed there and shit.
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If there are fences around the house, the area surrounded by those fences are private property. Since there is no fence around your house only the building and the interior itself can be stated private. The weedfield and surrounding objects are state owned, so that means they are not yours and you can not claim them as private property.
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You can't own the damn weed growing spot itself - its like the scripters making you your own weed spot which is a complete disadvantage to others. I would only say you own the farm and the land to the east of it, not the side with the weed spot.
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what about the other fields? not weed fields i mean,but the ones surrounding the farm?
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You own the whole field :razz:
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what about the other fields? not weed fields i mean,but the ones surrounding the farm?
Read what I posted before.
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He can't just take the whole weed field.
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its not my Problem they Spawned a weed feild on my Property
Dont u hear how silly it sounds
U dont own Parts of Your farm couse a weed field is there
i dont care then they just have to move it simple
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Haha, nice one Tand. Lold :D
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Looking at the price and the farm, you own an area of about 90 x 90 meters. I doubt that is the area you circled in red. If you wish to own thw whole area, think around 40-50 millions as first estimate, we might triple it.
Money is not a problem ?
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Owned xDD
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Haha the question at the end: money is not a problrm ??? lol that owns ! GO GANDALF (even if i'm on tands side) ^^
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its not my Problem they Spawned a weed feild on my Property
The weed field is not your property, only the building itself is.
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Looking at the price and the farm, you own an area of about 90 x 90 meters. I doubt that is the area you circled in red. If you wish to own thw whole area, think around 40-50 millions as first estimate, we might triple it.
Money is not a problem ?
Um... Hell ya can I take out a second mortgage on Gimli? or do I have to turn in my Pancher for that?>
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Looking at the price and the farm, you own an area of about 90 x 90 meters. I doubt that is the area you circled in red. If you wish to own thw whole area, think around 40-50 millions as first estimate, we might triple it.
Money is not a problem ?
U serious About 40-50 millions? i doubt u are since it maximum value shall be around 4 - 5 mil in my opion its just area not building ive got alot exemple in from SF and Ls That Area is bigger and also value is a much more less than what u Are saying
if u serious about 40-50mil then i suggest u remove the farm and never set it again or rise it to that dream ammount i still be owner with alot - in my bank acc thats all
since it could never be a Farm if u cant own the farm thats it
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You own the whole field :razz:
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:)
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U serious About 40-50 millions? i doubt u are since it maximum value shall be around 4 - 5 mil in my opion its just area not building ive got alot exemple in from SF and Ls That Area is bigger and also value is a much more less than what u Are saying
if u serious about 40-50mil then i suggest u remove the farm and never set it again or rise it to that dream ammount i still be owner with alot - in my bank acc thats all
since it could never be a Farm if u cant own the farm thats it
Uhm.. The farm itself is government property you know. But yes, slightly I also agree that you should own the farm since it is part of the house
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ye thanks thats the point of this Topic :)
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he has only said that due to the fact a weed field is there and he will be suing people for trespassing when they grow weed there and shit.
Well, I bet he didn't cause there is an other weed field in Bone County, its garden is a weed field and I suppose the owner owns that also so why Tandtrollet can't own the weedfield? But maybe that he is not allowed to remove people because of "private property" cause it is still stays government ground
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he has only said that due to the fact a weed field is there and he will be suing people for trespassing when they grow weed there and shit.
Thats not even near my Though
I roleplay a Farmer and the point is i wanna Hunt away Intruders tryin to steal my Plants u know.
they can plant them but on their own risk
Exact that it is irl
u cant steal things without punishment and the sad thing here is im not a cop and im not gonna sue just get them an chance to leave or solve the consiquenses .
Since that plants belong to the farm and i own the farm i wanna own all parts of the farm. even if a revalue have to bin made. not a big deal
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They aren't your ''plants'' if you didn't plant them with your own seeds.
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dont put your seeds in the farms Property
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dont put your seeds in the farms Property
Honestly I feel that you are just Property hungry and you dont wish to share with other people.... if that is how you want it ask the Administration to set you another farm someplace else... because serously learn th share mate.
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i just wanna own the Proptery i got the right to own that i bought Thats All '' The Farm '' Not just The house what kinda farm is that lol
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It isn't the farms property for the last time.. It's government property.. public area..
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It isn't the farms property for the last time.. It's government property.. public area..
Actully /area says different so damn right its 'The Farm' Area :)
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pethetyhjhy.
He should own the farm. It's his entire property and it seems he got his money worth. Farms IRL cost maybe around 150k + house depending on acres and stuff.
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Who care's man...even if its ur's. they can still plant as much as they want.
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Who care's man...even if its ur's. they can still plant as much as they want.
Offcourse they can i can not Force someone to Rp with me but im guarding my Property and if intruders is there i got the right to send them off my Property
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Offcourse they can i can not Force someone to Rp with me but im guarding my Property and if intruders is there i got the right to send them off my Property
I don't think it is allowed to send them away cause it is a weed field. The way you mention is is like "My weed field, stay off it, grow on it, and if I caught you, your busted"
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I don't think it is allowed to send them away cause it is a weed field. The way you mention is is like "My weed field, stay off it, grow on it, and if I caught you, your busted"
I just Say the Area that says 'The farm' is my farm property since i own that place. and as long that weed field is on The farm area they just have to awere of me .
''Request The weed field to be moved since people cant acept the farm owns that area''
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''Request The weed field to be moved since people cant acept the farm owns that area''
Lol. Dream much?
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Lol. Dream much?
well they putted it there when i owned this i bet they can remove it also
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well they putted it there when i owned this i bet they can remove it also
I don't think they're going to remove it, lets wait for an answer from a Developer / Owner to clarify this
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KK guys heres what im going to say. im saying this as a court judge.
The land around a property is only owned by the house on it IF there is a recognizable boundary that en-circles the land. If this was taken to court, i would say you owned it.
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KK guys heres what im going to say. im saying this as a court judge.
The land around a property is only owned by the house on it IF there is a recognizable boundary that en-circles the land. If this was taken to court, i would say you owned it.
Thanks . That what i tryin to get people understand
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i just wanna own the Proptery i got the right to own that i bought Thats All '' The Farm '' Not just The house what kinda farm is that lol
Honestly you are lowering people view of you.. Please either say Guys use the weed field and leave or Guys I dont want you on the field why I am here... But no you basically said EVERYONE GET THE HELL AWAY I OWN THIS BITCH!! I cant believe this I really hope you would just learn to accept people and stop being so selfish.
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A weedfield is, and will always stay governement property.
It's just like someone telling you he owns the LSPD and you can't enter it.
And also: The house has fence around it, but OUTSIDE of that fence is the weedfield.
And read what gandalf said. I don't think you paid that much.
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My hilton hotel was revalued from 1mil to 13mil. 40mil seems reasonable for this whole field.
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If Gandalf says you don't own it then you don't own it. It's his server and what he says is law.
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The thing is that you own the piece of land that has a gat around your farm house. That is what you bought and that is what you own, nothing more. That the area is called "the farm" does not mean it was included in your ownership price.
For the Judge: you should know that ownership of property is measured by taking four points that limit the property, calculating the square meters and multiplying it by the price valid for the area.
When you divide the value of the property by ARD 80, the area price, you can see how much square meters are in the property. If needed a manager can calculate exactly which fence was included at the time.
Now if you wish to own the area called "the Farm" than that is an area of 159734,7 square meters, and as unworked farmland would have a value of ARD 12.778.776
However as it has been noted that this farmland is worked by the Government for medical purposes, owenrship could not be transferred without additional conditions. The condition would be that the field which is used for medical purposes is deemed as public, meaning trespassing there will be allowed for everyone.
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Bring the Revalue on.
ARD 12.778.776
and When thats done I request This Topic To be Locked
With the Result i own The whole /area ''The Farm''
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However as it has been noted that this farmland is worked by the Government for medical purposes, owenrship could not be transferred without additional conditions. The condition would be that the field which is used for medical purposes is deemed as public, meaning trespassing there will be allowed for everyone.
This states...
THIS IS FOR EVERYONE YOU WILL NOT SPECIFICALLY OWN IT FOR OWN USES!!!
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Bring the Revalue on.
ARD 12.778.776
and When thats done I request This Topic To be Locked
With the Result i own The whole /area ''The Farm''
Guess what mate, this would not benefit you because anyone you forced to get away from 'your' weedfield would give you both barrels of a shotgun.
Anyway, if you got this I would want my house to also own all the road next to it, and lots of other people would put in stupid requests too.
It's a house, whether it's 12 million or 50k, it serves the same purpose of storing and loading items.
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The thing is that you own the piece of land that has a gat around your farm house. That is what you bought and that is what you own, nothing more. That the area is called "the farm" does not mean it was included in your ownership price.
For the Judge: you should know that ownership of property is measured by taking four points that limit the property, calculating the square meters and multiplying it by the price valid for the area.
When you divide the value of the property by ARD 80, the area price, you can see how much square meters are in the property. If needed a manager can calculate exactly which fence was included at the time.
Now if you wish to own the area called "the Farm" than that is an area of 159734,7 square meters, and as unworked farmland would have a value of ARD 12.778.776
However as it has been noted that this farmland is worked by the Government for medical purposes, owenrship could not be transferred without additional conditions. The condition would be that the field which is used for medical purposes is deemed as public, meaning trespassing there will be allowed for everyone.
As U see the owner stated here
I own it but u can Use it
so every gtfo with all ur moan no need to do it!
Acept it and move on
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You sir, are a very selfish person.
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So instead of RPing owning it, you need to prove it to everyone by paying an extra 11million in value?
Aha.
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You sir, are a very selfish person.
ye you are,you are here for fun or to be more sliker?
i bet your nothing more than a nerd in real life...or something like this
:lol: ,you make me sick !
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ye you are,you are here for fun or to be more sliker?
i bet your nothing more than a nerd in real life...or something like this
:lol: ,you make me sick !
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ur one of that Flaming persons that dont belong on ArgonathRpg
And for your info i bet i have more life irl than u got ur just a kid
i got car,House,girlfriend,kid and a good economy
what u got? ur mom still making gruel for u?
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shit u got my farm? hand me 150k pls
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You can always grab yer shotgun and tell those hippies to get off your lawn
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I actually cant believe how selfish some one could be... Hmmm I have about 9 ways around this if I wanted to get on to your "Property Legally" Whatever it is an area in a game So pssh..
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no offense mate, but If I see you on this farm and I want to use it, I'll just shoot you.
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no offense mate, but If I see you on this farm and I want to use it, I'll just shoot you.
+1 and since the weed field is government property he cant stop you from using it if he does call 911 and I will be there... ((Weed Is legal )))
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Lets all have a parade around this farm? :D
Nah.
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Request This Topic to Be locked due all FLaming and Moaning People
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i see no flamming nor moaning :D... but everyone is free to go to that place and grow weed or what ever...ur farm isnt speaical...everyone has a house...you seem them complianing ? No. Its a game anyone...i dont really care if i 0 without anything...
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NOTICE
I want a Court Judge or a High Administrator to validate this but this is what I thought is the law....
Because a Government resource is on this man's "Property" It is legal to use this government resource but you may not trespass on other area's of the property.
Or
Because the Property has a government resource the property is owned by the government and this makes it a Public property.
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NOTICE
I want a Court Judge or a High Administrator to validate this but this is what I thought is the law....
Because a Government resource is on this man's "Property" It is legal to use this government resource but you may not trespass on other area's of the property.
Or
Because the Property has a government resource the property is owned by the government and this makes it a Public property.
Dude if u read the posts in this topic instead of just make random posts u would found that answer Already i mark it with red for u
The thing is that you own the piece of land that has a gat around your farm house. That is what you bought and that is what you own, nothing more. That the area is called "the farm" does not mean it was included in your ownership price.
For the Judge: you should know that ownership of property is measured by taking four points that limit the property, calculating the square meters and multiplying it by the price valid for the area.
When you divide the value of the property by ARD 80, the area price, you can see how much square meters are in the property. If needed a manager can calculate exactly which fence was included at the time.
Now if you wish to own the area called "the Farm" than that is an area of 159734,7 square meters, and as unworked farmland would have a value of ARD 12.778.776
However as it has been noted that this farmland is worked by the Government for medical purposes, owenrship could not be transferred without additional conditions. The condition would be that the field which is used for medical purposes is deemed as public, meaning trespassing there will be allowed for everyone.
So if the revalue is made u can use that place but its still at my Property. :)
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Tand you either very rich or very stupid...
If you paid 13 mill and the farm was a private property i would understand...
BUT paying extra 12 mill to something YOU don't even have control over.....am i missing something
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Tand you either very rich or very stupid...
If you paid 13 mill and the farm was a private property i would understand...
BUT paying extra 12 mill to something YOU don't even have control over.....am i missing something
What u missing is that the farm value atm is 650k or something and gonna get a Revalue on to 12mil if its bin made
Its still just value money wont dissapear :)
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What u missing is that the farm value atm is 650k or something and gonna get a Revalue on to 12mil if its bin made
Its still just value money wont dissapear :)
So if you /sell you think you get it back :P thats funny they - the cash from your /bank My bizz was revalued and 90k was added to it and I was -90000k for awhile.
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So if you /sell you think you get it back :P thats funny they - the cash from your /bank My bizz was revalued and 90k was added to it and I was -90000k for awhile.
ye offcourse
ur on minus if u dont got the money
But then if u do /sell u get the value cash straight again :)
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Then thats not fair your never paying!!1 I think the government should make you pay out of hand so they should Minus your in hand cash so that you have to work to refill it to 0 because if not you never actually feel the debt.
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Request This Topic to Be locked due all FLaming and Moaning People
request all you want you aint gettin jack
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Well see
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Bring the Revalue on.
ARD 12.778.776
and When thats done I request This Topic To be Locked
With the Result i own The whole /area ''The Farm''
You did not pay for the full area so you do not own it.
If you wish to add the part you do now own, you will have to pay cash. No revaluation.
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You did not pay for the full area so you do not own it.
If you wish to add the part you do now own, you will have to pay cash. No revaluation.
ive decided i did not want the revalution to be done.
Since people cant accept the fact that i was gonna own the Property
i came online and people started to moan right away
Ive putted the farm for sale since a few players of argonath ruined my idea about the my dream big farm
I request the topic to be locked and closed forever
Thanks \Tandtrollet
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If that would be your dream you would not give up that easy...
If I would listen to some people against my dreams or plans - there would not be Argonath...
I will lock the topic on your request...
However in this situation is guilty an admin who was setting a property... He should set at once the price of the farm, not only the price of one house... And inform you about property you can claim as your own...
Big territory - bigger price, but you cannot buy the whole fields of farm by the price of the house...
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Being the admin who set the property I wish to clear some things.
I have now shown Tantrollet what he owns. I cannot show the owner what he owns at the time of revaluation because owner is, in 95% cases, not online when I revalue.
Reason why specific area was revalued for the house:
(1) There was a boundary wall on 2 sides of the house, so I used that wall for the house alone.
(2) Other people may like to buy the smaller barns nearby, for a one room cabin. Although I have not looked into it in detail, if it fits the description of a house, it may be set.
(3) Other people may like to access the drug farm using the land paid for by the owner of the house(there is a road leading to the drug farm, right in front of the house). Considering the complications involved, I granted sufficient piece of land to the owner of the house to park his cars and have a little barbecue party at the back if he wanted. So he would be happy and others too would be happy.
(4) If we do revalue the land to the proposed 12 million, we should consider the other people who would also like to buy the house at a later time, but cant buy it due to the high value. Say I ve 1 million and a buyout of 300k is required for the house, I can own it. But if the house value is 12 million how can I dream of owning it? And is valuation of whole land needed for a house having demarcated boundaries?
Considering the above factors house was revalued to the price it is now. If someone revalues, I hope the above factorfs can be considered...