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GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Wash on November 27, 2010, 02:31:24 am

Title: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Wash on November 27, 2010, 02:31:24 am
I've seen a lot of people use it, for example Richard Stracci. When warned by an admin, he responds with 'ex-admin uses it ;)'. Personally, I have seen admins use it, and I've seen players use it in front of admins too.

Could we please clarify on whether cbug is allowed or not?
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Mr. Goobii on November 27, 2010, 02:58:42 am
I believe "cbug" is allowed such as "bunny jumping". Nothing you do in a real RP seminar but the possibility is still there.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: TheRock on November 27, 2010, 03:21:04 am
No it is not,

If you crouch just to shot and then go on foot, it's fine (that's not the cbug), but doing the REAL REAL Cbug to avoid loosing bullets is a bannable glitch abuse.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Fuzzy on November 27, 2010, 03:22:26 am
uhh what is cbug?
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: TheRock on November 27, 2010, 03:23:40 am
C bug SA-MP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk0Bc8a3BKk#)

on SA-MP, It shows other player lagging forward and back, and the guy shots fast without loosing bullets... . but the bug does also avoid loosing bullets.

The real cbug is so much lag-fast shooting on SA-MP, Which we can realize easy...

The way to detect this is simple.. If the player is lagging forward and back on your screen and is NOT Crouching but shooting fast on a deagle, then that's abuse of the real cbug... which is bannable. (Saying this, so if you see.. you must report the guy)

The other one, which other player does crouch and shots slow.. is not a c-bug... and takes the same time as if you had the crouch let the anim do ;).
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Antonio. on November 27, 2010, 03:38:28 am
Teach me how to?
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: TheRock on November 27, 2010, 03:57:32 am
Teach me how to get a ban?

Fixed it for you, buddy
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Antonio. on November 27, 2010, 04:01:01 am
Fixed it for you, buddy
No tell me plz I wont abuse it
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Jamal on November 27, 2010, 05:14:09 am
Fixed it for you, buddy
you so good
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Vince on November 27, 2010, 05:30:46 am
Good job Rock, for showing everyone how to use it.. Antonio expect a ban ingame next time you log on :)
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Altair_Carter on November 27, 2010, 08:20:39 am
C bug SA-MP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk0Bc8a3BKk#)

on SA-MP, It shows other player lagging forward and back, and the guy shots fast without loosing bullets... . but the bug does also avoid loosing bullets.

The real cbug is so much lag-fast shooting on SA-MP, Which we can realize easy...

The way to detect this is simple.. If the player is lagging forward and back on your screen and is NOT Crouching but shooting fast on a deagle, then that's abuse of the real cbug... which is bannable. (Saying this, so if you see.. you must report the guy)

The other one, which other player does crouch and shots slow.. is not a c-bug... and takes the same time as if you had the crouch let the anim do ;).
Holy f**k.
Moderator Comment No advertising please - Gregersen

Good job Rock, for showing everyone how to use it.. Antonio expect a ban ingame next time you log on :)
You know, I'd google it anyway, but thanks to TheRock, he saved me a couple of minutes.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Fuzzy on November 27, 2010, 08:33:27 am
blablabla....
Now everybody knows it thanks to me :(
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Void on November 27, 2010, 09:25:55 am
Have been kicking people from the server for this.
You can crouch and get back up without loosing bullets and shoot twice faster.
(IV-MP)
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Gandalf on November 27, 2010, 09:29:18 am
I've seen a lot of people use it, for example Richard Stracci. When warned by an admin, he responds with 'ex-admin uses it ;)'. Personally, I have seen admins use it, and I've seen players use it in front of admins too.

Could we please clarify on whether cbug is allowed or not?
#  Do not abuse glitches, that give you advantage over other players (i.e. attacking from glitched areas);
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Antonio. on November 27, 2010, 10:24:56 am
Good job Rock, for showing everyone how to use it.. Antonio expect a ban ingame next time you log on :)
Lolmanyougotmethere
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: TheRock on November 27, 2010, 12:08:30 pm
Good job Rock, for showing everyone how to use it.. Antonio expect a ban ingame next time you log on :)

The specific video does not show how to perform it ;). However only how it is when you actually use it, so not really a big problem vince

I just cleared the fact for which CBug is the actual real.. the one with the crouch to avoid animation? (Which is the same time... in any way) OR, the other real one with avoiding bullets + fast Deagle shooting..? :). Pretty simple.. so people can see and realize if someone abuses it, AND report them because if they don't know the actual glitch recognition, how can they report players using it?
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: MisterSjeiks on November 27, 2010, 12:35:33 pm
I got kicked on ParUni once for using the Cbug, didn't know what it was or that I was even using it :(
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Altair_Carter on November 27, 2010, 12:41:56 pm
Fast Deagle shooting I discovered like 3 years ago on a DM server. Back in the time when everyone used lame Tec9/SawnOffs only.

Haters be hattin' back then.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Shockk on November 27, 2010, 02:00:19 pm
Teach me how to?
:lol:

NOT Crouching but shooting fast on a deagle, then that's abuse of the real cbug... which is bannable. (Saying this, so if you see.. you must report the guy)
In my time in Argonath, I have witnessed CBUG from nearly every major organisation, so I naturally thought it would be acceptable. A heck of a lot of people use it, I was aware of the bug and started using it recently but have stopped since. Although, if I'm totally honest, I'd be suprised if any of the regular CBUGers were banned. By regular, I mean players who use it constantly.

(http://i51.tinypic.com/30w9z0y.png)
:hit:
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Antonio. on November 27, 2010, 07:19:45 pm
Nvm I learned how to guys.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Wash on November 28, 2010, 12:20:36 am
C-bugging does not give you infinite bullets, like you don't lose bullets when you shoot or anything.
C-bugging allows for a faster rate of fire (for deagle), and eliminates the animation when you try to run after shooting. The c-bug also causes a bit of lag and makes you even harder to shoot..
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: [SE]Dr_Pepper27 on November 28, 2010, 12:26:53 am
It's funny cuz i've been in Ancelotti, 58th and ACSD but still have no idea what the hell a cbug is.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Shockk on November 28, 2010, 12:40:44 am
It's funny cuz i've been in Ancelotti, 58th and ACSD but still have no idea what the hell a cbug is.
:trust:
I can name members from Ancelotti and ACSD that I have witnessed using CBUG over the course of my stay here. I won't as it may seem to come across as provocative.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Antonio. on November 28, 2010, 01:14:50 am
Why when I c bug.... I nvm
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Mr. Goobii on November 28, 2010, 02:16:24 am
I can say that I've been C bugging before.  I know many people here is just bullshitting when they say that they not know about this bug and never have tried it before.

People lies as always, but as they do it over Internet is critical. This indicate that some people takes this game little to serious. Anonymous!

I mean, Cmon!
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Antonio. on November 28, 2010, 02:20:28 am
Goobi, I agree with your signature.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Antonio. on November 28, 2010, 02:44:10 am
[19:42:20] [AF]Antonio_Gvardia was tempbanned by [Rstar]TAI(2) for 60 minutes for admitting to cbug.

Tai didn't even give me chance to tell him if I did or not. xD
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Vince on November 28, 2010, 04:22:42 am
[19:42:20] [AF]Antonio_Gvardia was tempbanned by [Rstar]TAI(2) for 60 minutes for admitting to cbug.

Tai didn't even give me chance to tell him if I did or not. xD

Aw shit, I would've just banned you instead!
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: CharlieKasper on November 28, 2010, 06:56:16 am
So this isn't allowed but i'm still not sure what it is?
I mean
I'm shooting a deagle now i have 200-2 bullet's left so i scroll up my mouse wheel and then scroll it down again and i see i got 195-7
That means i skipped my reloading- That's cbug?
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: SG_Baker on November 28, 2010, 07:34:42 am
C bug =

1: avoiding animation to shoot faster, eg deagle,shotgun etc etc.. and causes lag like a 800 ping player
2: making other people to see you are shooting but you are not in your screen, = infinite ammo.

Why not make or copy the script from paruni which kicks you for C bugging...
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Aldo on November 28, 2010, 07:49:49 am
C bug =

1: avoiding animation to shoot faster, eg deagle,shotgun etc etc.. and causes lag like a 800 ping player
2: making other people to see you are shooting but you are not in your screen, = infinite ammo.

Why not make or copy the script from paruni which kicks you for C bugging...

the paruni c bug kicker is ummm.... well the former scripter of paruni says its not so good at its job
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Roman on November 28, 2010, 08:00:52 am
C bug SA-MP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk0Bc8a3BKk#)

on SA-MP, It shows other player lagging forward and back, and the guy shots fast without loosing bullets... . but the bug does also avoid loosing bullets.

The real cbug is so much lag-fast shooting on SA-MP, Which we can realize easy...

The way to detect this is simple.. If the player is lagging forward and back on your screen and is NOT Crouching but shooting fast on a deagle, then that's abuse of the real cbug... which is bannable. (Saying this, so if you see.. you must report the guy)

The other one, which other player does crouch and shots slow.. is not a c-bug... and takes the same time as if you had the crouch let the anim do ;).


Fuuuuuuu that is my airport garage!!  :mad:
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Altair_Carter on November 28, 2010, 08:03:22 am
[19:42:20] [AF]Antonio_Gvardia was tempbanned by [Rstar]TAI(2) for 60 minutes for admitting to cbug.

I have to say that's so pathetic from Tai's side.
Aw shit, I would've just banned you instead!
So are you.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Gregersen on November 28, 2010, 11:49:29 am
That is not pathetic..
Players who can't follow the rules, should simply not be on ArgonathRPG..
Personally if I were an administrator, and I saw someone C-Bug, i'd ask the person wether or not he c-bugged.. IF he lied to me, i'd perm ban him right there, on the spot.. While if he admits it, i'd give 60min tempban + last chance..

I think you're lucky that Tai ... TAI! only banned you for 60 mins, Antonio.. Other admins would've probably perm banned you on the spot..

CBugging is like glitching, or cheating or whatever you'd call it.. I call it cheating.. Alike Weapon hacks..

So thats not pathetic.. Ban rulebreakers, simple as it is
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Altair_Carter on November 28, 2010, 03:19:41 pm
That is not pathetic..
Players who can't follow the rules, should simply not be on ArgonathRPG..
Personally if I were an administrator, and I saw someone C-Bug, i'd ask the person wether or not he c-bugged.. IF he lied to me, i'd perm ban him right there, on the spot.. While if he admits it, i'd give 60min tempban + last chance..

I think you're lucky that Tai ... TAI! only banned you for 60 mins, Antonio.. Other admins would've probably perm banned you on the spot..

CBugging is like glitching, or cheating or whatever you'd call it.. I call it cheating.. Alike Weapon hacks..

So thats not pathetic.. Ban rulebreakers, simple as it is
Pathetic is that he got banned for sarcasmically saying in the start of topic "Ok gonna use it too then"
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Gregersen on November 28, 2010, 03:23:16 pm
His fault, same asif somebody writes "time to turn my hacks on, wait 2sec".. He would be banned aswell ;)
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Pandalink on November 28, 2010, 04:48:00 pm
Bans from the forum should never happen.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Gregersen on November 28, 2010, 06:06:27 pm
Bans from the forum should never happen.
Depends on situation/reason
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Kent on November 28, 2010, 06:18:31 pm
Depends on situation/reason
To be honest, the ban in this situation was not needed, it was ment as a joke
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Altair_Carter on November 28, 2010, 06:30:39 pm
His fault, same asif somebody writes "time to turn my hacks on, wait 2sec".. He would be banned aswell ;)
The thing is, he didn't turn hacks YET. He might have them, but that doesn't mean he uses them.

That's pretty much like jailing a person for 10 years because he said " I murdered those jews during WWII"
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: JDC on November 28, 2010, 06:49:10 pm
A more concrete example for the hacks thing would be jailing someone for murder when they say "I will kill and rape you and your family in the ass, necrophile style."
 
Funny how I have been in FBI for two years and never came across any incident of cbugging until now.
In fact, I never even heard what the hell it is.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Pandalink on November 28, 2010, 06:53:09 pm
A more concrete example for the hacks thing would be jailing someone for murder when they say "I will kill and rape you and your family in the ass, necrophile style."
Even your example would still not be legally correct. Anyway, it would be closer to "lol I'm so gonna kill you man :lol:" and then getting jailed for murder.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Vince on November 28, 2010, 06:57:23 pm
I have to say that's so pathetic from Tai's side.So are you.

i no :crryyyy:

Honestly there's different ways to say things, in the case of Antonio, it was an idiotic attempt at being funny. The shitty attitude followed by it provoked a ban, and as Aragorn has displayed previously, any "joking" with claiming you hacked can get you banned. As much as all admins would love to sit around distinguishing what is a joke and what is serious, we're not here to do that.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Leon. on November 28, 2010, 07:25:57 pm
Forums =/= Game.

If I told Gandalf various insults regarding his mother, brother, father, family, pride, and false poverty, he'd forum ban me, not go in game and ban me there.

Not even the corrupt US Legal System can act on a confession alone... just goes to show even Europeans can be just as, if not more pathetic than us.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Shockk on November 28, 2010, 11:27:43 pm
A more concrete example for the hacks thing would be jailing someone for murder when they say "I will kill and rape you and your family in the ass, necrophile style."
 
Funny how I have been in FBI for two years and never came across any incident of cbugging until now.
In fact, I never even heard what the hell it is.
A former member who served the FBI during 2009 used the CBUG.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Gandalf on November 28, 2010, 11:33:45 pm
The thing is, he didn't turn hacks YET. He might have them, but that doesn't mean he uses them.

That's pretty much like jailing a person for 10 years because he said " I murdered those jews during WWII"
Actually if you confess that you have hacks installed, or are smart enough to post a picture on forums showing the installation of hacks, you can get banned.
We expect our players to use a SA:MP and GTA:SA that are 100% free of any mods, trainers or hacks that change anything except the visual appearance.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Cofiliano on November 29, 2010, 02:17:38 pm
i no :crryyyy:

Honestly there's different ways to say things, in the case of Antonio, it was an idiotic attempt at being funny.

Moderator Comment How about you go find a nicer language, or you wont be able to write on these forums without moderator approval - Gregersen
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Aldo on November 29, 2010, 02:29:14 pm
To be honest, the ban in this situation was not needed, it was ment as a joke

Go In-Game and type this "/p I USE HACKS" then type "/p JOKE!!!!!"

What will happen? A big nice red message that's says you are banned

but it was meant as a joke


text removed, was edited by moderator.. (-Gregersen)

But your insulting and he is speaking of the attempt of a joke was idiotic he never said Antonio was idiotic or and idiot etc

He clearly stated his actions were idiotic


i no :crryyyy:

Honestly there's different ways to say things, in the case of Antonio, it was an idiotic attempt at being funny.

That is not insulting and or flaming
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Cofiliano on November 29, 2010, 02:32:50 pm
What are you, his pet ? Ass cleaner? If you didn't find irony in my reply, then you really are what I described in my previous reply.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Altair_Carter on November 29, 2010, 02:34:36 pm
A more concrete example for the hacks thing would be jailing someone for murder when they say "I will kill and rape you and your family in the ass, necrophile style."
In real life a person would've been simply fined or even warned, not fucking jailed.

@ Vince's post.

Leon just summed up what I wanted to say.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Altair_Carter on November 29, 2010, 02:36:10 pm
Actually if you confess that you have hacks installed, or are smart enough to post a picture on forums showing the installation of hacks, you can get banned.
One thing is having something
The other thing is using it.

People hold guns at home just incase, but they don't use them. Only when they carry them around can get them fined/jailed. This is basically the same situation.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Aldo on November 29, 2010, 02:57:13 pm
What are you, his pet ? Ass cleaner? If you didn't find irony in my reply, then you really are what I described in my previous reply.

Yet you are a grown man provoking and flaming teenagers, Please act your age and not your shoe size
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Cofiliano on November 29, 2010, 05:49:22 pm
Yet you are a grown man provoking and flaming teenagers, Please act your age and not your shoe size
No, I'm a "grown man" who hates when some fruitcake  bullies kids who are younger then him, for his own joy.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Aldo on November 29, 2010, 06:27:18 pm
No, I'm a "grown man" who hates when some fruitcake  bullies kids who are younger then him, for his own joy.

A few weeks ago I said I have a Screen Shot of Eugene on cop duty, You then told me to shove it up my ass

Currently to me you look like a hypocrite
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Gregersen on November 29, 2010, 07:26:41 pm
Quit arguing... And find a decent tone, as I don't allow that kind of language here.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Wash on November 29, 2010, 08:56:09 pm
the fudge is this

all talk of cbugging has been lost

I think Gandalf has cleared that cbugging is as extreme any form of script abuse and is bannable..
No topic lock please, this topic needs to stay open for a bit so people notice its not allowed.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Leon. on November 29, 2010, 09:34:33 pm
Actually if you confess that you have hacks installed, or are smart enough to post a picture on forums showing the installation of hacks, you can get banned.
We expect our players to use a SA:MP and GTA:SA that are 100% free of any mods, trainers or hacks that change anything except the visual appearance.
Understandable. However, the fact that hacks are installed implies that you are going to use them, but has a chance of being incorrect, as Altair has stated. I have a gun for self defense. I'll probably lose it before someone breaks into my house, but you never know. That's the thing - you never know. I can understand if one was banned for taking a picture of his installed hacks (MOOOROOOON). It's the same concept of saying you're going to blow up your school, even if you're not. Better safe from boom boom than sorry that you completely ignored the chances of the school going sky high. Better safe from hackers than sorry that the weapon business has dropped due to the extremely low prices the hacker sold the guns for.

the fudge is this

all talk of cbugging has been lost

I think Gandalf has cleared that cbugging is as extreme any form of script abuse and is bannable..
No topic lock please, this topic needs to stay open for a bit so people notice its not allowed.
Rule 25.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Gird3r on November 30, 2010, 07:40:07 am
Some things are not meant to be said.

There are fine IRL examples of people joking about blowing shit up and then getting jailed for it because it is seen as threat against something or someone.

So, yes. Do not get suprised if you get yourself banned because you tought it was funny and "cool-boy" to joke about having hacks or using them. Saying "I joked" is not an excuse.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: JDC on November 30, 2010, 01:04:49 pm
In real life a person would've been simply fined or even warned, not f**king jailed.

There are several countries, including my own, that would jail for death threats.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Altair_Carter on November 30, 2010, 01:22:53 pm
There are several countries, including my own, that would jail for death threats.
I'm talking about Yurop.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Antonio. on December 01, 2010, 06:54:32 am
Aw shit, I would've just banned you instead!
That's why you're the best admin.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Antonio. on December 01, 2010, 07:01:18 am
Lol I just read the topic, and you guys are all fighting for a wrong reason. Tai didn't ban me... cause of what I said on the forums. I told him "I think I C-Bug" and he asked me did I c-bug I told him "No" Then he asked me again... and before I even got to reply he temp banned me, so this was nothing about the forums... Although Tai failed on lack of communication, which alot of admins these day fail on.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: EliteTerm on December 01, 2010, 07:15:24 am
Lol I just read the topic, and you guys are all fighting for a wrong reason. Tai didn't ban me... cause of what I said on the forums. I told him "I think I C-Bug" and he asked me did I c-bug I told him "No" Then he asked me again... and before I even got to reply he temp banned me, so this was nothing about the forums... Although Tai failed on lack of communication, which alot of admins these day fail on.

Looks to me you failed in communication. Why would you say something about C-Bug in the first place?
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Antonio. on December 01, 2010, 07:20:40 am
Looks to me you failed in communication. Why would you say something about C-Bug in the first place?
Gee... I don't know? SOmething called "joking" maybe?
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: EliteTerm on December 01, 2010, 07:23:49 am
Gee... I don't know? SOmething called "joking" maybe?

Joking has gotten several players banned, so you better watch what you're saying.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Antonio. on December 01, 2010, 07:27:34 am
Joking has gotten several players banned, so you better watch what you're saying.
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Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: xu1gua on December 01, 2010, 07:42:56 am
shot + c + shot + c + shot + c + shot + c + shot + c + shot + c, thank you for coming into my lessons. And it is definatly NOT AALLLOWED here.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Antonio. on December 01, 2010, 08:11:33 am
Very smart.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Aldo on December 01, 2010, 04:26:10 pm
shot + c + shot + c + shot + c + shot + c + shot + c + shot + c, thank you for coming into my lessons. And it is definatly NOT AALLLOWED here.

Cool Post
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Todor on December 01, 2010, 05:43:17 pm
Cool Post

I'm sure you'll take full advantage of what you've learned.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Leon. on December 01, 2010, 08:47:28 pm
shot + c + shot + c + shot + c + shot + c + shot + c + shot + c, thank you for coming into my lessons. And it is definatly NOT AALLLOWED here.
90% wrong.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Drastic on December 01, 2010, 09:12:39 pm
lol everyone uses this shit
SERIOUS ACCUSATION I KNOW
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: R.Rivens on December 01, 2010, 09:19:43 pm
I think it's pretty easy to kill people without doing it anyways so there is no point of bugging at all. Bunnyhop, for example, gives a huge advantage though... Even bigger than Cbug. You can move faster with it, isn't that an advantage aswell? In Singleplayer, you couldn't abuse it since you were able to run faster than using bunnyhop. Here it's ockward and becomes handy.. In my opinion, should be disallowed too. Just saying...
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Pandalink on December 01, 2010, 09:30:05 pm
I think it's pretty easy to kill people without doing it anyways so there is no point of bugging at all. Bunnyhop, for example, gives a huge advantage though... Even bigger than Cbug. You can move faster with it, isn't that an advantage aswell? In Singleplayer, you couldn't abuse it since you were able to run faster than using bunnyhop. Here it's ockward and becomes handy.. In my opinion, should be disallowed too. Just saying...
Anyone can bunnyhop (some not so well) and knows what it is and how to do it.
I for one didn't even know what this "cbug" was until this thread and I don't know how to do it.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Leon. on December 02, 2010, 12:47:34 am
I for one didn't even know what this "cbug" was until this thread and I don't know how to do it.
You wouldn't be interested, either.
1. You have more dignity and honor than that in gun fights, which I know from a personal encounter with you in war.
2. It's actually pretty fucking stupid and highly inaccurate, so it's not even worth it.
3. Now you wouldn't want another ban, would you? :rules:
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Kenny. on December 02, 2010, 11:49:14 am
I think Gandalf has cleared that cbugging is as extreme any form of script abuse and is bannable..
No topic lock please, this topic needs to stay open for a bit so people notice its not allowed.

I love the hypocrisy

I got advice for you "The future belongs to those who prepare for it today"
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: SG_Baker on December 02, 2010, 12:29:50 pm
Thanks to some people in this topic, most of the server now abUSES Cbug : /
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Aldo on December 02, 2010, 03:01:13 pm
I'm sure you'll take full advantage of what you've learned.

I'm sure your childish provoking have gotten you no where In Game and Out of Game
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Shockk on December 03, 2010, 03:51:53 am
I love the hypocrisy

I got advice for you "The future belongs to those who prepare for it today"
wat  :eek:

Thanks to some people in this topic, most of the server now abUSES Cbug : /
Well, '/report' them, capture proof if nothing gets done.  :hah:
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Kenny. on December 03, 2010, 04:11:11 pm
wat  :eek:

yes
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Pablo on December 04, 2010, 05:26:29 pm
#  Do not abuse glitches, that give you advantage over other players (i.e. attacking from glitched areas);

That cbug is sa:mp issue, not a hack or any shit, anyone can learn it, why its punishable?
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: 9r2e5i3k on December 04, 2010, 05:43:26 pm
cbug

anyone can learn it, why its punishable?
Anyone can download a hack, why is it punishable?
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Wash on December 04, 2010, 06:18:47 pm
That cbug is sa:mp issue, not a hack or any shit, anyone can learn it, why its punishable?
It's punishable because it's abuse of a bug. As Grzesiek said, anyone can download hacks and use them too. Anyone can learn it but it still gives an advantage over people that don't use cbug which means its an advantage. Advantages over other players are not allowed.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: JDC on December 05, 2010, 01:12:59 pm
Inb4 somebody running in here complaining about the numerous rifts between the numerous player classes.

If you will read the age-old list of Argonath Server Rules, you will see one that states against bug / glitch abusing.

Somebody please lock this topic and move it to the Trash.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Violet on December 05, 2010, 06:17:57 pm
Inb4 somebody running in here complaining about the numerous rifts between the numerous player classes.

If you will read the age-old list of Argonath Server Rules, you will see one that states against bug / glitch abusing.

Somebody please lock this topic and move it to the Trash.
Do not move to Trash...
A lot of people abused the glitch on MTA:VC to teleport yet fuck all was done about it. There needs to be a reminder that all bugs and glitch abuse is bannable.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: TheRock on December 06, 2010, 04:13:49 pm
Anyone can bunnyhop (some not so well) and knows what it is and how to do it.
I for one didn't even know what this "cbug" was until this thread and I don't know how to do it.

However since everybody can perform it, and it's game's physical action. It's not an advantage over another player. ;)
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Pandalink on December 07, 2010, 04:40:09 am
However since everybody can perform it, and it's game's physical action. It's not an advantage over another player. ;)
Ok.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Altair_Carter on December 07, 2010, 01:07:46 pm
It's the same advantage as bike acceleration. And I never saw a person who was banned for acceleration bug.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: JDC on December 08, 2010, 01:02:55 am
However since everybody can perform it, and it's game's physical action. It's not an advantage over another player. ;)

Everybody can use hacks as well, you know... so where's the advantage there?
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Kenny. on December 08, 2010, 01:52:33 am
Everybody can use hacks as well, you know... so where's the advantage there?

Can you use Wall hacks with normal game features?
no
Do you have to download external program? yes
Should it be bannable? yes

Can you use cbug with the normal game feature? yes
Do you need to download external program? no
Should it be bannable? no

BOTH CAN BE USED BUT THEIR IS A DIFFERENCE.....
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: JDC on December 08, 2010, 02:23:09 am
Technically and from a logical perspective, the only difference that manifests its presence in your analogy is the existence of the external program, which happens to be a prerequisite for the usage of hack programs.

Through observation of the concept though, an observer can note as well that both scenarios happen to offer the user a form of advantage. Another concrete example of the advantage logic would be what we know as the MTB-Bunnyhop Glitch, abuse of which is punishable by bans.

The cbug, if you haven't noti

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cBUG

The cbug, if you haven't noticed, happens to be a bug or glitch that offers an advantage over others in the same manner as the MTB Glitch. Unlike the MTB Glitch though, all advantages from this result in the expense of other players, whereas the MTB Glitch can be used for solo purposes such as stunting in free time, while the cbug involves shooting at other players (weapons).

It's not only a glitch / bug, it's even worse than the MTB glitch.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Pandalink on December 08, 2010, 04:16:28 am
It's the same advantage as bike acceleration. And I never saw a person who was banned for acceleration bug.
bug.
wat
That is an intended game feature.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Oliver on December 08, 2010, 06:24:50 am
we should also ban W-bug guyse

no more tapping W, ok?
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Antonio. on December 08, 2010, 06:30:55 am
What if you change your crouch button, is it considered c-bugging still :P
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: R.Rivens on December 08, 2010, 07:36:54 am
What if you change your crouch button, is it considered c-bugging still :P
It's also known as crouch bug... But GTA:SA has a lot of bugs, for example the button tapping, also you swim faster when you have a bad framerate. There are also some places/objects you jump on and die imminently. And you can always use them to gain advantage. Also, you can't jump out of the car in the right speed. My point is that there are a lot of game bugs. And that's not our fault. Or server's fault, or script's fault. I just don't understand how can a game bug be punishable.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: 9r2e5i3k on December 08, 2010, 08:48:32 am
@Kenny
If you change depth bias via console command in some game (was HL1 or HL2, dun remember) you could see models through walls. So because it's not done via external program/file, it's not a cheat?

@Rivens
Not punishing for a bug happening to you, but punishing for aware using and exploiting the bug to your advantage.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Jcstodds on December 08, 2010, 04:45:16 pm
  This gives unfair advantage over players. It is not an intended feature of the game. If caught using it ingame you will be banned.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: JayL on December 08, 2010, 04:50:48 pm
That is an intended game feature.

It was probably intended to be a game feature, but what happens in other screens wasn't.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: MBSF on December 08, 2010, 04:51:24 pm
It shouldnt be bannable because some admins clearly cannot tell the difference whats a cbug and whats not, and people are getting banned for wrong reasons. Im in fact not talking only about Daniel. Did you guys read kirbys unban? Rofl, its not even possible to cbug with combat shotgun, and thats what, as daniel pointed out in the videos he posted, was kirbys ban reason. Why no one has ever gotten banned for it before this topic was made? Just lol.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Melvin on December 08, 2010, 06:29:31 pm
It shouldnt be bannable because some admins clearly cannot tell the difference whats a cbug and whats not, and people are getting banned for wrong reasons. Im in fact not talking only about Daniel. Did you guys read kirbys unban? Rofl, its not even possible to cbug with combat shotgun, and thats what, as daniel pointed out in the videos he posted, was kirbys ban reason. Why no one has ever gotten banned for it before this topic was made? Just lol.

Especially you should not be laughing at other players. I saw your unban request and you made it look like it is some kind of joke.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: MBSF on December 08, 2010, 06:38:47 pm
^What? How is it relevant to the topic? Go and scam someone instead of trolling this thread, reported.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Pandalink on December 08, 2010, 09:45:10 pm
It was probably intended to be a game feature, but what happens in other screens wasn't.
And what is that? o_o
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Shockk on December 08, 2010, 10:05:28 pm
Rofl, its not even possible to cbug with combat shotgun...
Incorrect.
-

I don't mind if it was allowed to be honest. Although, players who used the bug in the past were selectively punished. :razz:


Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Jcstodds on December 09, 2010, 12:47:20 am
It shouldnt be bannable because some admins clearly cannot tell the difference whats a cbug and whats not
  I will just ban them all and then I am certain the abusers are getting punished.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Kenny. on December 09, 2010, 12:55:01 am
Funny how you identify it to be a bug by the name. So if presumebly we changed the name from c-BUG to c-shoot or c-shutup, would you scream "OMG IT SAYS BUG READ IT MUST BE A BUG"

players who used the bug in the past were selectively punished. :razz:

like warned and not banned, yes we know

I saw your unban request and you made it look like it is some kind of joke.
Whats your point?

Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Shockk on December 09, 2010, 01:58:44 am
Funny how you identify it to be a bug by the name. So if presumebly we changed the name from c-BUG to c-shoot or c-shutup, would you scream "OMG IT SAYS BUG READ IT MUST BE A BUG"
Ok.

like warned and not banned, yes we know
I see what you did there.  :bow:
No, that's not what I meant.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Raykaza on December 09, 2010, 02:23:05 am
Abusing any kind of glitches/bugs to get advantages than other players is not allowed.
And not allowed means lead to punishment,So c-bug is bannable in case of constant abuse.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: JayL on December 09, 2010, 02:57:24 am
And what is that? o_o

In others screen you will be shooting faster than in your own.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Pandalink on December 09, 2010, 05:15:36 am
In others screen you will be shooting faster than in your own.
I was talking about the bike acceleration bug though. :|
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Violet on December 09, 2010, 01:46:42 pm
I was talking about the bike acceleration bug though. :|
Where you go forward on your bike or grind. Either that or when you spam the acceleration button on a keyboard when on a pedal bike to go faster.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Webster on December 09, 2010, 01:53:58 pm
Just a question.

Is accelerating fast when you lean forward on the bike multiple times, bannable?
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Violet on December 09, 2010, 01:56:47 pm
Just a question.

Is accelerating fast when you lean forward on the bike multiple times, bannable?
LOL... And you registered on the forums thirteen months ago. You must be trolling  :eek:
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Altair_Carter on December 09, 2010, 03:22:12 pm
LOL... And you registered on the forums thirteen months ago. You must be trolling  :eek:
Might be blind too.
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: JayL on December 09, 2010, 04:26:31 pm
I was talking about the bike acceleration bug though. :|

Oh... :hit:

Well keeps the point proven atleast. :D
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: Pandalink on December 09, 2010, 08:03:01 pm
Where you go forward on your bike or grind. Either that or when you spam the acceleration button on a keyboard when on a pedal bike to go faster.
Yes, I know.

Did nobody understand my point in the first post I mentioned this?.. o.0
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: MBSF on January 05, 2011, 03:20:13 pm
Have to bump this because of certain admins' incompetence. Crouching is not cbugging for christs sake. Yesterday I got warned because i crouched behind a counter in store, just fucking ridiculous. Frankly, i dont care too much about the warn, however i certainly dont want to get banned for something made up by an admin. Are admins allowed to ban for "cbug" without video proof?
Title: Re: cbug - wtf?
Post by: SG_Baker on January 05, 2011, 05:17:17 pm
Quote
Are admins allowed to ban for "cbug" without video proof?

Yes, Happen to me...`.`
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