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Title: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 03, 2010, 06:44:00 pm
You may know me as Joe Deleon, Julio Stracci, JoeJoe, Julio Benitez or w/e.

You may also know that I have been banned for hacking a minigun.

I would firstly like you all to know, which a lot of you may have suspicions anyway, that I actually DID NOT hack one.

The chatlogs all look like they're leading to me having done it, but I have not. My assumption is that the script started warning whoever was id 86 before me about hacking, and did not recognise that a new player had joined as that ID.

Anyway, keeping with the title.

I thought I was respected here, but with these assumptions posed against me, and so many people against me, my question is simple.

'Has my time here been wasted?'


Link to unban request:     http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=62519.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=62519.0)
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Freedom on December 03, 2010, 07:01:52 pm
Are you a big drama queen? yes
has your time been wasted? no
now get unbanned
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 03, 2010, 07:03:39 pm
Are you a big drama queen? yes
has your time been wasted? no
now get unbanned

You would not think I was a drama queen if you read whats been happening in my Personal Messages
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: (tr)Ollie on December 03, 2010, 07:13:20 pm
Please post messages. I went to look.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 03, 2010, 07:41:49 pm
None of my messages save in my outbox, so if strikefreedom reads this I would appreciate if he posted my replies

StrikeFreedoms lines:

When my chat gets spammed with "[AF]Julio_Benitez's weapons have been reset due to him having an ." then there is clearly an issue....
One other thing....I don't make f**k ups.
A Tai is when the wrong ID is banned. The scripts basically said you were hacking something...
[14:55:13] Warning: the weapons of [AF]Julio_Benitez(86) have been reset due to him having a(n) .

[14:55:13] Warning: the weapons of [AF]Julio_Benitez(86) have been reset due to him having a(n) .

[14:55:14] Warning: the weapons of [AF]Julio_Benitez(86) have been reset due to him having a(n) .

[14:55:15] Warning: the weapons of [AF]Julio_Benitez(86) have been reset due to him having a(n) .

[14:55:16] Warning: the weapons of [AF]Julio_Benitez(86) have been reset due to him having a(n) .

[14:55:18] Warning: the weapons of [AF]Julio_Benitez(86) have been reset due to him having a(n) .

[14:55:19] Warning: the weapons of [AF]Julio_Benitez(86) have been reset due to him having a(n) .

[14:55:20] Warning: the weapons of [AF]Julio_Benitez(86) have been reset due to him having a(n) .

[14:55:20] [WS]Rock_Kolta(98) told [AF]Julio_Benitez(86) you have 5 seconds to leave the server and stop cheating.

[14:55:21] Warning: the weapons of [AF]Julio_Benitez(86) have been reset due to him having a(n) .

[14:55:22] Warning: the weapons of [AF]Julio_Benitez(86) have been reset due to him having a(n) .

[14:55:23] Warning: the weapons of [AF]Julio_Benitez(86) have been reset due to him having a(n) .

[14:55:24] Warning: the weapons of [AF]Julio_Benitez(86) have been reset due to him having a(n) .

[14:55:24] Warning: the weapons of [AF]Julio_Benitez(86) have been reset due to him having a(n) .

[14:55:26] Warning: the weapons of [AF]Julio_Benitez(86) have been reset due to him having a(n) .

[14:55:26] [Ban DB] You can now claim your ban in the ban database control panel.

[14:55:26] [AF]Julio_Benitez was banned by StrikeFreedom(48) for Minigun.

[14:55:26] Name: [AF]Julio_Benitez, IP <blanked>, date & time: 2010-12-03 15:55
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Lorenzo. on December 03, 2010, 07:50:37 pm
What?
I don't think your time is wasted man, but if you're moaning some more about your ban then you might loose all your respect. I understand that it might be wrong that you're banned.

:ps: Let Ben talk with admins that you did NOT hack because he's the one who can check your files for hacks.

:ps: 2, You're not Julio_Stracci?
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 03, 2010, 08:03:01 pm
What?
I don't think your time is wasted man, but if you're moaning some more about your ban then you might loose all your respect. I understand that it might be wrong that you're banned.

:ps: Let Ben talk with admins that you did NOT hack because he's the one who can check your files for hacks.

:ps: 2, You're not Julio_Stracci?

im julio stracci
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 03, 2010, 08:05:30 pm
I'm not Julio_Benitez, but I am on his IP.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Lorenzo. on December 03, 2010, 08:10:02 pm
Then who is Julio Benitez?
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 03, 2010, 09:03:55 pm
Julio Stracci is Julio Benitez, changed name

Guess I'm gonna be denied, irony really, If i say I hacked, I get unbanned, yet if I tell the truth about not hacking i am denied

Thanks for the good times.

Julio
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 03, 2010, 09:14:04 pm
Tbf, I think that some time of yours has been wasted, but not all of it.
Some people trust what you are saying, but the people who do not know you, who coincidentally the ones who need to say yes to being unbanned, do not trust you.

The weird thing is, that Gimli put that me and you are good at persuasive arguments. In another context, maybe you could have been a moderator if you had fully used that ti your advantage, but I guess that cannot happen now :L

I may count the hours or days until Gimli realises that Julio is telling the truth, because this reminds me of the Salem Witch Trials. If you admitted it, you lived, but if you said you weren't, you were hung by the neck until dead.
Except in Julio's case, it is being unbanned, instead of a noose.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: StrikeFreedom on December 03, 2010, 09:16:02 pm
My only contribution to this: Scripts and logs do not lie.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 03, 2010, 09:22:29 pm
In fact, to add to minimans point.

They used to put people on 'seesaws' above the water to see if they were witches, if they sank, they were not a witch, but died. If they floated, they were witches and were burnt at the stake.

I am stuck between a rock and a Hard place now, whatever I do, I am screwed. So I am going to carry on telling the truth in the vain hope that it will occur to one of the management team that I am telling the truth.

However, I suspect that I am going to be Trialed, and found guilty for a Crime I have not commited. I guess its just like real life I suppose, some people always insist that it should be more like Real Life, well, now it is. Yes, there is injustice in the world, and we are all subject to it.

I will rest in the knowing that there are at least a few people who do believe me.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Void on December 03, 2010, 09:23:41 pm
This is internet. Respect is a relative term.
StrikeFreedom did what his duty/obligation made him to do.

Best of luck, and really no need of the e-drama topic.

Tolstoy said once: " You are not made/created to know life's purpose. You accept and embrace life in all of its forms."
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 03, 2010, 09:25:45 pm
The fact that he did not talk to me about it surprises me...

e-drama topic was only made because they did not believe me on my unban request.

Truth is also relative
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 03, 2010, 09:30:58 pm
This is internet. Respect is a relative term.
StrikeFreedom did what his duty/obligation made him to do.

Best of luck, and really no need of the e-drama topic.

Tolstoy said once: " You are not made/created to know life's purpose. You accept and embrace life in all of its forms."

I doubt that StrikeFreedom's obligation is to call an honest person a liar, backed up only by a script, made by humans, who can make errors (no offence meant to any of the scripters).
Logs do not lie, but they show what they are told by the script. The script may have errors, therefore, indirectly, the logs may lie.
I am not going to change me mind; Julio did not hack.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Jamal on December 03, 2010, 09:49:36 pm
Its wasted if you want to create a shitload of what you would call 'e-drama'  because you think an admin mistakingly banned you.

Want to end your problems? gtfo of server and forums. Then you dont have to worry about your wasted time.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 03, 2010, 09:51:45 pm
Its wasted if you want to create a shitload of what you would call 'e-drama'  because you think an admin mistakingly banned you.

Want to end your problems? gtfo of server and forums. Then you dont have to worry about your wasted time.

You're wasting my time right now. Nothing smart to say? Then don't say anything.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 03, 2010, 09:55:31 pm
Its wasted if you want to create a shitload of what you would call 'e-drama'  because you think an admin mistakingly banned you.

Want to end your problems? gtfo of server and forums. Then you dont have to worry about your wasted time.

What I have a problem with is my reputation being ruined by people who believe I am a hacker.

Creating e-drama topics will lower my reputation, but not to the level of a lowly hacker...
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Leon. on December 03, 2010, 10:01:04 pm
[14:55:13] Warning: the weapons of [AF]Julio_Benitez(86) have been reset due to him having a(n) .
>Implying the period at the end of this sentence classes as a minigun.

There's either something wrong with StrikeFreedom, who thinks a period is a minigun, or something wrong with the scripts that makes a minigun show as a period.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 03, 2010, 10:09:11 pm
>Implying the period at the end of this sentence classes as a minigun.

There's either something wrong with StrikeFreedom, who thinks a period is a minigun, or something wrong with the scripts that makes a minigun show as a period.

Thats a good point well made  :D
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Void on December 03, 2010, 10:14:44 pm
my reputation being ruined by people

As I said before. Respect/Reputation is a relative term.
This topic wouldn't be created if you had a different opinion.

Your reputation will be ruined only when you start thinking it is.

Why let yourself down with such stuff?
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 03, 2010, 10:18:56 pm
As I said before. Respect/Reputation is a relative term.
This topic wouldn't be created if you had a different opinion.

Your reputation will be ruined only when you start thinking it is.

Why let yourself down with such stuff?

Reputation may be a relative term, but its meaning is not. People may frown on Julio for lying about hacks to get back on the server.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 03, 2010, 10:21:15 pm
I have already been let down by many of the community who believe that I hack.

By letting myself down, hopefully I am getting across that I AM telling the truth and more people will believe me.

Ironically, if you read my unban request it says

'If you say you hacked, you will get unbanned, if you say you didn't hack, you will be denied'

Ironic considering I actually, truthfully did nothing wrong.


What is your opinion, do YOU think I would do this? I have no need..
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 03, 2010, 10:23:02 pm
Lets let the community vote

Poll added
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Void on December 03, 2010, 10:28:17 pm
'If you say you hacked, you will get unbanned, if you say you didn't hack, you will be denied'
Ironic considering I actually, truthfully did nothing wrong.

First of, think rationally.
Who would say that? A friend? An "enemy"?
The fact is, you'll always have someone beside you, ready to help and support you through all times, but then, you'll have those that dislike/or have a neutral opinion on you.

Jargon said: Haters gonna hate.
The people that like you, will be on your side. Turn to them, not the haters and "neutral opinion" people.
If you care about what haters/n. opinion people say, then that's not respect, its fame seeking.

If you know you're talking the truth, you don't have to worry.


No poll necessary really, you'll only attract unnecessary trolling and get stressed out over nothing.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 03, 2010, 10:30:02 pm
Look, this was all started by an Admin, I have just continued it.

It will inevitably be ended by a manager one way or the other, unbanned, or most probably, denied.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: StrikeFreedom on December 03, 2010, 11:19:19 pm
Useless poll. By creating and continuing to post in this topic, you are just hindering your own unban request. Stop being such a drama queen.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 03, 2010, 11:24:17 pm
Look, its not to be offensive to you at all

Just to let off some steam
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Gandalf on December 03, 2010, 11:33:15 pm
You are correct that to be unbanned for a bug can take longer as when you admit.
The reason is that in case of a bug we have to see if we can replicate it. If such a bug would exists we should already have experienced it more often, or at least be able to cause it to appear.
Which means that your unban request might remain unhandled until we got the chance to test the script for a bug as you described.
From what I see in logs it seems unlikely that the bug is in our scripts, it is more likely that there is something wrong with your installation. It would be useful to check that first.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 03, 2010, 11:36:07 pm
You are correct that to be unbanned for a bug can take longer as when you admit.
The reason is that in case of a bug we have to see if we can replicate it. If such a bug would exists we should already have experienced it more often, or at least be able to cause it to appear.
Which means that your unban request might remain unhandled until we got the chance to test the script for a bug as you described.
From what I see in logs it seems unlikely that the bug is in our scripts, it is more likely that there is something wrong with your installation. It would be useful to check that first.

It was shortly after a crash, from using enter in a shamal, which may be a contributing factor.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Gandalf on December 03, 2010, 11:38:10 pm
It was shortly after a crash, from using enter in a shamal, which may be a contributing factor.
Unless a Shamal gives weapons, hardly a factor.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 03, 2010, 11:38:32 pm
Like I said, CLEO, with no mods installed, remnants left. Never worked.

I use a proper installation with the patch linked from SA-MPs website.

What I CAN say however, is how the hell can I spawn a weapon while freeing myself from the inside of a gltiched shamal, while sprinting towards a towtruck?

That would be some fast hands, I would need four
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Gandalf on December 03, 2010, 11:41:20 pm
Like I said, CLEO, with no mods installed, remnants left. Never worked.

I use a proper installation with the patch linked from SA-MPs website.

What I CAN say however, is how the hell can I spawn a weapon while freeing myself from the inside of a gltiched shamal, while sprinting towards a towtruck?

That would be some fast hands, I would need four
The messages started 2 seconds after entering the towtruck. Enough time.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 03, 2010, 11:43:24 pm
Gandalf, no offence, but you do now know me...

Prefect at school, A*s, corporal blahdiblah, im trustworthy...

Many people in this server trust me, that has not grown for no reason.

If there is any way you can suggest to prove I do not hack, then name it...
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Wash on December 03, 2010, 11:55:50 pm
Prefect at school, A*s, corporal blahdiblah, im trustworthy...
For some reason, I don't believe you're getting A*s. :razz:
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 03, 2010, 11:58:19 pm
For some reason, I don't believe you're getting A*s. :razz:

Want to bet?

Explain to me, in mathematical terms about column vectors, Division of surds, multiplication of Surds and finish with a few explanations of Sine and CoSine

I didn't think anyone would put that they'd think I would hack, seeing some people saying Yes is a great disappoinment to me.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Jamal on December 04, 2010, 12:01:25 am
Want to bet?

Explain to me, in mathematical terms about column vectors, Division of surds, multiplication of Surds and finish with a few explanations of Sine and CoSine

I didn't think anyone would put that they'd think I would hack, seeing some people saying Yes is a great disappoinment to me.
lolz dude you think pulling up Random math terms prove your smart? This is the internet. For all we know your lying about As, and you just googled that stuff. But again, for all we know, your telling the truth..

I voted yes. And also, for how long has it been that you need a so called 'reputation' to RP? Get back in the server if you get unbanned and start RPing with people. They wont even bother to say 'naa your a hacker go away', if they do, you laugh at them. Not make a drama about it.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 04, 2010, 12:02:43 am
For some reason, I don't believe you're getting A*s. :razz:

Yeah real smart... He didn't mean to say perfect, he MEANT to say prefect. That is what they call the volunteer year 11's, who spend time helping others, at our school.
I would say that was a grammar nazi fail.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 04, 2010, 12:03:39 am
lolz dude you think pulling up Random math terms prove your smart? This is the internet. For all we know your lying about As, and you just googled that stuff. But again, for all we know, your telling the truth..

I voted yes. And also, for how long has it been that you need a so called 'reputation' to RP? Get back in the server if you get unbanned and start RPing with people. They wont even bother to say 'naa your a hacker go away', if they do, you laugh at them. Not make a drama about it.

LMFAO you must be mad. My brother is like, in the top 1% in our year at maths...
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Jamal on December 04, 2010, 12:04:35 am
Yeah real smart... He didn't mean to say perfect, he MEANT to say prefect. That is what they call the volunteer year 11's, who spend time helping others, at our school.
I would say that was a grammar nazi fail.
WOW congrats my friend. You turned Wash's joke into a troll post with that kind of response  :lol: Obviously he was joking.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Jamal on December 04, 2010, 12:06:08 am
LMFAO you must be mad. My brother is like, in the top 1% in our year at maths...
yes im fking so mad

I don't care of his brain statistics or his smartness. You could be as smart as Stephen Hawking and still cheat on the server.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: CaptainCrazy on December 04, 2010, 02:49:08 am
My bro.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Pandalink on December 04, 2010, 05:53:25 am
Prefect at school, A*s, corporal blahdiblah, im trustworthy...
For some reason, I don't believe you're getting A*s. :razz:
.. maybe he was a prefect?



Max is still banned (and has been for some time) for something he didn't do. Has he made a seperate topic?
No he has not. I understand your frustration, but the only chance you have is (as you said) just to make an unban and hope they realise that they're mistaken.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: jdixo17 on December 04, 2010, 12:15:19 pm
If I was you, I'd just admit to it (regardless if I did it or not).
What's the point in wasting your time and arguing when they are simply going to deny you?

I hope you get unbanned sometime soon.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 04, 2010, 12:21:20 pm
If I was you, I'd just admit to it (regardless if I did it or not).
What's the point in wasting your time and arguing when they are simply going to deny you?

I hope you get unbanned sometime soon.

He believes that he will lose some of his reputation on the server, for either 2 reasons:

1. They think he hacked
2. They know he lied to get back in

This may be wrong, but it is what he thinks  :(
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 12:23:10 pm
If I was you, I'd just admit to it (regardless if I did it or not).
What's the point in wasting your time and arguing when they are simply going to deny you?

I hope you get unbanned sometime soon.

Ah, but you see, if I say I have hacked, I am lying, and then I would probably go mad ingame and get banned again while saying I did not hack.

I do not want to lose any friends in this community just because of a bug...
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 12:44:25 pm
My bro.

Ah, Jimmy :)

Whats happenin'? :)
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Jamal on December 04, 2010, 03:50:54 pm
Ah, but you see, if I say I have hacked, I am lying, and then I would probably go mad ingame and get banned again while saying I did not hack.

I do not want to lose any friends in this community just because of a bug...
lol Your so fking crazy, The more I read your posts in your unban request the more i want to flame you, but not going to.

You think, you, an regular player on argonath servers, just like anyone else here, versus the several thousands of people on the server [maybe counting Others, considering I have never seen a situation like this, just happen to get this virtually impossible bug, then you come to your unban request and DEMAND? an apology from administration because they are doing their job? Because the Script did what it was supposed to do?[Implying you really did. If not, then for the script making a mistake].

You act like your some genius about scripts and the server, when really your just trying to put together an excuse for what you were banned for.


You don't want to not lose respect of your peers? Have you considered what your doing right now, what your posting, and what your brother is posting, has lost you some respect? Because it sure has. From me, and others I'm sure. Maybe if you were to post something other than 'ZOMG IM INNOCENT' case, and post constructively, only responding to what the administration has asked you to help your unban request. Its not like they WANT you to stay banned, they want to help you, but if your too busy posting 'I'm innocent!' things, that gets you nowhere.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 03:53:52 pm
I demanded an apology when I thought someone had done a Tai... I just have not updated the topic
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 04, 2010, 03:55:37 pm
lol Your so fking crazy, The more I read your posts in your unban request the more i want to flame you, but not going to.

You think, you, an regular player on argonath servers, just like anyone else here, versus the several thousands of people on the server [maybe counting Others, considering I have never seen a situation like this, just happen to get this virtually impossible bug, then you come to your unban request and DEMAND? an apology from administration because they are doing their job? Because the Script did what it was supposed to do?[Implying you really did. If not, then for the script making a mistake].

You act like your some genius about scripts and the server, when really your just trying to put together an excuse for what you were banned for.


You don't want to not lose respect of your peers? Have you considered what your doing right now, what your posting, and what your brother is posting, has lost you some respect? Because it sure has. From me, and others I'm sure. Maybe if you were to post something other than 'ZOMG IM INNOCENT' case, and post constructively, only responding to what the administration has asked you to help your unban request. Its not like they WANT you to stay banned, they want to help you, but if your too busy posting 'I'm innocent!' things, that gets you nowhere.

The script must have done what it shouldn't have done, because Joe did nothing. The attitude of some admins is shocking. If all they want to do is help, then why are they posting things like "This proves it" or whatever? It proves nothing, to be honest, because he didn't do anything wrong.
The topic is here to make a point. He has been wrongly banned, yet a lot of admins rely so much on the scripts, that they do not believe him (apart from Salmonella, thanks :D ).
He is no genius with a script, and never said he was. The main point is, that there is no perfect computer. Things go wrong sometimes, get over it.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 03:58:37 pm
Would be grateful if David_Omid posted here (not asking for CBF because he has bigger problems)
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Jamal on December 04, 2010, 04:57:05 pm
The script must have done what it shouldn't have done, because Joe did nothing. The attitude of some admins is shocking. If all they want to do is help, then why are they posting things like "This proves it" or whatever? It proves nothing, to be honest, because he didn't do anything wrong.
The topic is here to make a point. He has been wrongly banned, yet a lot of admins rely so much on the scripts, that they do not believe him (apart from Salmonella, thanks :D ).
He is no genius with a script, and never said he was. The main point is, that there is no perfect computer. Things go wrong sometimes, get over it.
what kind of drugs your on? you just proved my fucking point totally. I said all you do is post 'he's innocent' and how you dont assume one time he did cheat at all, and YOU act like your all mighty jesus christ but really chances are your lying for your brother's sake. You don't know anything about scripts and neither does your brother, for either of you to assume anything about it is bullshit.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 05:02:21 pm
what kind of drugs your on? you just proved my f**king point totally. I said all you do is post 'he's innocent' and how you dont assume one time he did cheat at all, and YOU act like your all mighty jesus christ but really chances are your lying for your brother's sake. You don't know anything about scripts and neither does your brother, for either of you to assume anything about it is bullshit.

No, but I DO know who to ask about scripts, and a small quote off them is in my unban request
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 04, 2010, 05:07:34 pm
what kind of drugs your on? you just proved my f**king point totally. I said all you do is post 'he's innocent' and how you dont assume one time he did cheat at all, and YOU act like your all mighty jesus christ but really chances are your lying for your brother's sake. You don't know anything about scripts and neither does your brother, for either of you to assume anything about it is bullshit.

I'm saying he didn't hack, because he didn't hack...
It is no longer about me, because Gimli unbanned my name, and I would not lie about whether my brother hacked. I never said I knew anything about scripts, but common sense prevails. I know he did not hack, and I doubt that anyone gave him the weapons, so therefore, there must be something wrong with the script.
I'm not assuming anything.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: R.Rivens on December 04, 2010, 05:30:03 pm
Best of luck, Julio. I can't even believe this. I'm 100 percent sure you didn't hack. This is so not right..
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 05:30:59 pm
The problem is, the Admins are 100% sure that I did hack.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: (tr)Ollie on December 04, 2010, 05:45:22 pm
Explain to me, in mathematical terms about column vectors, Division of surds, multiplication of Surds and finish with a few explanations of Sine and CoSine.

GCSE Maths. Everyone who does a GCSE in Maths will do these subjects, even the dipshits.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 04, 2010, 05:47:35 pm
GCSE Maths. Everyone who does a GCSE in Maths will do these subjects, even the dipshits.

lmao, doesn't mean they are very good at them ;D
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 05:48:42 pm
Believe me, the dipshits do not even know how to do significant figures


So Supportive [UX]Ollie  :roll:

Joe_Deleon/Julio Benitez
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Jamal on December 04, 2010, 05:50:47 pm
I'm saying he didn't hack, because he didn't hack...
It is no longer about me, because Gimli unbanned my name, and I would not lie about whether my brother hacked. I never said I knew anything about scripts, but common sense prevails. I know he did not hack, and I doubt that anyone gave him the weapons, so therefore, there must be something wrong with the script.
I'm not assuming anything.
'so therefore, there must be something wrong with the script. I'm not assuming anything.' Look up assume in a dictionary. You have no proof there is anything wrong with the script because you can not be sure your brother didn't hack unless you were watching him when he was banned. For all YOU know, [I'm assuming, lolz] he did hve them but deleted them fast so you would belive he didn't hack. Do you know that there is something wrong with the script? No. Do you say there is? Yes. Therefore you ARE assuming.

What you said there is signature worthy
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 05:53:00 pm
'so therefore, there must be something wrong with the script. I'm not assuming anything.' Look up assume in a dictionary. You have no proof there is anything wrong with the script because you can not be sure your brother didn't hack unless you were watching him when he was banned. For all YOU know, [I'm assuming, lolz] he did hve them but deleted them fast so you would belive he didn't hack. Do you know that there is something wrong with the script? No. Do you say there is? Yes. Therefore you ARE assuming.

What you said there is signature worthy

Implying I hack?
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 05:53:37 pm
If you wish to talk to me, I am on Team Speak general discussion
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: (tr)Ollie on December 04, 2010, 06:08:07 pm
What I don't understand is that you were banned for "Minigun", the script says you had "(n)" and Gimli says you had Thermal Google, Molotov or some other shit.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 06:15:10 pm
I am confused at that, that is one of my supporting points for it being a script error, if the script cannot judge what the weapon is, it must be wrong.

Either that or it is a code for something else ingame :S
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 04, 2010, 06:17:06 pm
'so therefore, there must be something wrong with the script. I'm not assuming anything.' Look up assume in a dictionary. You have no proof there is anything wrong with the script because you can not be sure your brother didn't hack unless you were watching him when he was banned. For all YOU know, [I'm assuming, lolz] he did hve them but deleted them fast so you would belive he didn't hack. Do you know that there is something wrong with the script? No. Do you say there is? Yes. Therefore you ARE assuming.

What you said there is signature worthy

/facepalm

Epic fail by me there :P
What I meant was, I know he does not hack, and I seriously doubt he would be set-up by someone, therefore, there must be something wrong with the script. Elimination ftw :P

What I don't understand is that you were banned for "Minigun", the script says you had "(n)" and Gimli says you had Thermal Google, Molotov or some other shit.
The script says he had ".", the "(n)" was for grammatical purposes, such as "a minigun", or "an AK-47" :D
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 06:23:32 pm
Still confusing, there is no 'Molotov' or 'Minigun' Mentioned in the logs
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Jamal on December 04, 2010, 06:24:31 pm
/facepalm

Epic fail by me there :P
What I meant was, I know he does not hack, and I seriously doubt he would be set-up by someone, therefore, there must be something wrong with the script. Elimination ftw :P
The script says he had ".", the "(n)" was for grammatical purposes, such as "a minigun", or "an AK-47" :D
My friend, you are still making assumptions. As am I. What is not making assumptions is the script. Another reason to believe in it.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 06:28:56 pm
And now Jamal, you are pathetic enough to put minimans quote in your signature
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Leon. on December 04, 2010, 07:27:22 pm
Useless poll. By creating and continuing to post in this topic, you are just hindering your own unban request. Stop being such a drama queen.
You're looking more and more like a cunninglingus. How in the actual fuck can you think a space, period, or whatever is a damn minigun?
LOOK A MINIGUN IS BELOW ME









Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: (tr)Ollie on December 04, 2010, 07:30:51 pm
Who is StrikeFreedom?
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 07:36:59 pm
I've been reliably informed by an anonymous person, that they have no idea who he is, but their belief is that he/she is the strictest admin, and he is an idiot, not my words.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Void on December 04, 2010, 07:55:54 pm
School A's and Argonath San Andreas.

Relevancy. Doing it wrong.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 08:00:02 pm
Posted Screenshots of my GTA_SA folder on unban request, please say in here if you see anything odd
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: StrikeFreedom on December 04, 2010, 08:28:18 pm
Who is StrikeFreedom?
Me.

I've been reliably informed by an anonymous person, that they have no idea who he is, but their belief is that he/she is the strictest admin, and he is an idiot, not my words.
I'm flattered. On the contrary, i'm not an "idiot". The person who's words they actually are clearly got on the wrong side of me.
Strictest admin? No. I'm third on the list after Aragorn and Boromir respectivley for being strict.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 04, 2010, 08:33:25 pm
I've been reliably informed by an anonymous person, that they have no idea who he is, but their belief is that he/she is the strictest admin, and he is an idiot, not my words.

Being strict does not make someone an idiot.
I'm not holding anything against StrikeFreedom now (I apologise for anything I placed in my unban request) as I now understand admins can only go on the information they know, and everything pointed towards Julio hacking, even if he didn't.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 08:34:59 pm
Like I said a couple of times, if I was an admin, I would have banned me too.

Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Leon. on December 04, 2010, 08:36:59 pm
sup legolas
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 08:39:24 pm
Legolas?

Would make sense I suppose...
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 04, 2010, 08:40:14 pm
Joe you're actually starting to annoy me...

Anything I am saying, you are saying about 10 minutes after me. This is gonna cause a lot of suspicion, for various reasons. Stop now.



StrikeFreedom is Legolas? :O
Wow! :D
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Jamal on December 04, 2010, 08:42:12 pm
Judging from what he said, I doubt its Legolas. Its not to discuss which admin is which anyway.

Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Jamal on December 04, 2010, 08:42:58 pm
Also Joe and minimang, are you two on the same computer?
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 08:43:59 pm
We are brothers on the same wireless network

@miniman - Says the guy who followed me onto Argonath
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Jamal on December 04, 2010, 08:46:02 pm
So seperate computers?
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 04, 2010, 08:46:22 pm
Also Joe and minimang, are you two on the same computer?

Different computers...but we cannot post within 30 seconds on the same IP which explains the delay :L
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Todor on December 04, 2010, 09:06:48 pm
Quote
[14:55:20] [WS]Rock_Kolta(98) told [AF]Julio_Benitez(86) you have 5 seconds to leave the server and stop cheating.

Happened to me once too.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 09:07:52 pm
I am just waiting for someone to come in, and post the single word 'yes', as an answer to my topics title.

lolz
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Dan_Jones on December 04, 2010, 09:12:35 pm
yes it has take your minigun away from argonath!

rool break noob!
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 09:15:08 pm
Thanks Dan -_-  Voted?

I may be an idiot on the forums sometimes, but I am a genuinely nice guy ingame and in real life :P
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 04, 2010, 09:16:20 pm
Troll is successful ;D
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Leon. on December 04, 2010, 09:40:55 pm
I am just waiting for someone to come in, and post the single word 'yes', as an answer to my topics title.

lolz
I seriously almost did that on my first reply here, 'till I saw StrikeFreedom's post.

Wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't Legolas, as I remember Legolas's grammar and vocabulary being a little worse than Strike's. I also wouldn't be surprised if it was :P
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 09:43:43 pm
Have you ever heard of a bug like this Leon?

Tomorrow I'll go into single player and test all possible buttons on my keyboard that I can to see if it links to something, but I highly doubt finding anything
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Leon. on December 04, 2010, 09:53:35 pm
Never. As a retired programmer myself, I know that no script can suddenly go waabaadabbadoo kaput (in other words, bugged) unless some of the script was fucked with, even if it's not directly related to the bugged part of the script. The script has been fucked with (added shit it, etc) quite recently, speaking of which.
Recently being before our beloved developers went weFIPWEIOGIRWIOGGG.

Don't get me wrong, I personally think you're innocent.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 04, 2010, 09:55:42 pm
There HAVE been recent updates to the script I think regarding vehicle entry messages.

Correct me if I am wrong
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Leon. on December 04, 2010, 10:38:31 pm
Regarding why cleo won't work - You should have:
1. cleo.asi.bup needs to be renamed to cleo.asi
2. You need an ASI loader

And samp_a.dll.bak is a file from mod s0*$*(#@(*$@#, along with samp_b.dll. Reason to raise suspicions...
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 05, 2010, 12:26:59 am
I know what mod you mean

I had that mod when I used airbrake, I uninstalled it ages ago
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 05, 2010, 12:43:05 am
I will add screenshots of when I modified or w/e the samp_dll back up thing to prove when I downloaded it tomorrow.

Going to sleep now, goodnight, hopefully this will be resolved soon :(

Sorry for any stress I've put on the admin team, but to my knowledge that s0**** mod had gone because I had uninstalled it.

Will test tomorrow
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: jdixo17 on December 05, 2010, 02:47:51 am
Thing is, you cannot rely on logs and scripts to prove something. Computers do make mistakes, well, technology in general.

I cannot believe that the administrators on here are just relying COMPLETLY on the scripts, and the scriptors should know first hand about this kind of thing.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Altair_Carter on December 05, 2010, 09:49:07 am
I'm sorry, but before reading whole topic I MUST Say, you ARE A drama queen.

Just look, your unban request and this topic got more than 5 pages in 2 days.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Altair_Carter on December 05, 2010, 10:01:35 am
Unless a Shamal gives weapons, hardly a factor.
It does give parachute if i remember correct
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 05, 2010, 10:57:38 am
will test various buttons on SP to see if it did originate from my computer.

See results soon ;)
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: tiderman on December 05, 2010, 11:40:07 am
It does give parachute if i remember correct
Since when does the shamal give you a parachute?
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 05, 2010, 12:09:50 pm
Tested all the 'F' buttons in single player, nothing happened, tried combos such as with shift, ctrl, alt and fn, still nothing.

Will try again, but beginning to feel that nothing is going to happen

TEST 1 OVER
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 05, 2010, 12:41:51 pm
Since when does the shamal give you a parachute?

All of the aircraft do, I believe, when you jump out while they are in the air (or on a high building).
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 05, 2010, 01:04:40 pm
I am sad to see a fair few people have voted yes in my little poll

I thought I was more respected than that...
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: HELLY BOY on December 05, 2010, 02:40:32 pm
I am sad to see a fair few people have voted yes in my little poll

I thought I was more respected than that...
Well, as you almost destroyed my helicopter in Blueberry, in a so called ''RP'' way, I thik, when a DMer is created, a hacker is born. Very often DMers turn into hackers, hackers get banned, then they make e-drama topics like this.
Also, scripts and logs DON'T lie. Accusing them to lie is like merged with suicide.


About the s0^&#( mod, it can't be just by mistake that the .bk folder, meaning backup, is still there.
As Gandalf said:
''Having a samp_a.dll.bak file means that your original SA:MP files were changed by a program used to hack. ''
Means, by installing a hacker program, it changes your samp.exe, making it to samp.exe.bkp, just an example. It edits it making it compatible with the computer machine so it can work with SA:MP. Whoever unbanned you, didn't warn you to remove the hacks when you was banned for AirBreak. Claiming you are innocent, pff. Since when do you have that hacking file? Why didn't you remove it? How come ONLY YOU was banned for the reason? How come that it NEVER happened before? I don't know, maybe someone of your family used it to hack from your computer? In that case, either don't lie to the administration, or stay banned forever.



These facts are speaking truly against you. You have no proves of script bugs, as for the last time, LOGS DON'T LIE. So you are the first one to who this happens? Good joke, just lies don't fit here. Get a proof, I will believe then, unless then, I click Yes.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 05, 2010, 02:51:52 pm
Ryan Ancelotti?

When I destroyed your helicopter it was because I was told to do it.

You hovered around for ages after a large group of criminals told you to leave, I shot at you, when you flew like 3 metres away, then stopped again, I asked in /cb whether I should snipe you, the reply I got was 'Yes'
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: StrikeFreedom on December 05, 2010, 02:53:55 pm
If the same people told you to jump of a bridge, would you? :D
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 05, 2010, 03:01:25 pm
In Roleplay I suppose I Would :devroll:

In Real Life, no

Sorry I was shitting on you, but I genuinely did not realise that it was probably my own fault
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 05, 2010, 03:02:29 pm
Well, as you almost destroyed my helicopter in Blueberry, in a so called ''RP'' way, I thik, when a DMer is created, a hacker is born. Very often DMers turn into hackers, hackers get banned, then they make e-drama topics like this.
Also, scripts and logs DON'T lie. Accusing them to lie is like merged with suicide.


About the s0^&#( mod, it can't be just by mistake that the .bk folder, meaning backup, is still there.
As Gandalf said:
''Having a samp_a.dll.bak file means that your original SA:MP files were changed by a program used to hack. ''
Means, by installing a hacker program, it changes your samp.exe, making it to samp.exe.bkp, just an example. It edits it making it compatible with the computer machine so it can work with SA:MP. Whoever unbanned you, didn't warn you to remove the hacks when you was banned for AirBreak. Claiming you are innocent, pff. Since when do you have that hacking file? Why didn't you remove it? How come ONLY YOU was banned for the reason? How come that it NEVER happened before? I don't know, maybe someone of your family used it to hack from your computer? In that case, either don't lie to the administration, or stay banned forever.



These facts are speaking truly against you. You have no proves of script bugs, as for the last time, LOGS DON'T LIE. So you are the first one to who this happens? Good joke, just lies don't fit here. Get a proof, I will believe then, unless then, I click Yes.

As I suggested earlier...when you uninstall and reinstall the game, mods do not disappear, you have to install to a new destination folder. Maybe remnants of the hack still exist, because uninstalling the game will not get rid of the extras, even if you delete the folder after the uninstall. It is possible that certain things stayed, such as samp.<whatever it was>.

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=51920.45  (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=51920.45) <--- Take a look at this. When Joe hacked back in March, he admitted to it straight away. Thats the type of person he is.
Also look at Cutter's last post. You really think Joe would hack again? If you were of that opinion, I think you should change it, because Joe would not risk being banned permanently from Argonath.

HELLY BOY, you are right, lies do not fit in here. If you think you're so smart, go become a lawyer, but don't give any crap on here. He is not lynig, so in some ways, you are actually right! There is a first time for any bug, so don't assume for one second that all the bugs in Argonath have been found. That is a narrow-minded, and immature point of view. I expected better.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: HELLY BOY on December 05, 2010, 03:57:11 pm
As I suggested earlier...when you uninstall and reinstall the game, mods do not disappear, you have to install to a new destination folder. Maybe remnants of the hack still exist, because uninstalling the game will not get rid of the extras, even if you delete the folder after the uninstall. It is possible that certain things stayed, such as samp.<whatever it was>.

Not true. Whenever I install a bugged vehicle mod, and it buggs my game, I always re install it by deleting my folder and installing it from my CD. I never install it on another place. And you know that supposedly, as he does too maybe, explaining he didn't remove it o purpose

About that, what you think, why did noone post it yet on SAMP forums? Because it has NEVER been there. That bug does not exist, so what makes him special in having it? Nothing, making clear he is hacking or a hacker gave them to him.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 05, 2010, 03:59:51 pm
He does not mean all mods

Mods like the one I used to use for example, I 'uninstalled them' by basically deleting everything with anything Which I thought unusual or related to.

When my brother used the same mod we he also co-owned the same server as me, he even formatted his computer, and suspected that some bits were still there.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 05, 2010, 04:27:47 pm
Not true. Whenever I install a bugged vehicle mod, and it buggs my game, I always re install it by deleting my folder and installing it from my CD. I never install it on another place. And you know that supposedly, as he does too maybe, explaining he didn't remove it o purpose

About that, what you think, why did noone post it yet on SAMP forums? Because it has NEVER been there. That bug does not exist, so what makes him special in having it? Nothing, making clear he is hacking or a hacker gave them to him.

Erm...confused now?
I reinstalled my game, and it still had a Sultan mod on it. I recovered my computer, in still had the Sultan mod on it.
Please see this link: http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=62574.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=62574.0) and this link: http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=62572.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=62572.0)

Not wrong.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 05, 2010, 06:22:41 pm
Julio, stop posting things I put on here onto your unban request.
It makes it look like:

1. We're the same person, so STOP IT!
2. You did actually hack, and are copying my ideas to make yourself look innocent

I know you actually didn't, but stop it now...I've told you twice already!
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: HELLY BOY on December 05, 2010, 06:29:03 pm
Erm...confused now?
I reinstalled my game, and it still had a Sultan mod on it. I recovered my computer, in still had the Sultan mod on it.
Please see this link: http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=62574.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=62574.0) and this link: http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=62572.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=62572.0)

Not wrong.
How come it works with me and milion others? Try deleting WHOLE GTA SA root, then re install it.

Fixes the problem.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 05, 2010, 06:37:37 pm
I fixed the problem :)
I put it in a different folder, works for me and I'm happy :D

BTW, formatting my computer didn't get rid of it either ;)
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 05, 2010, 06:42:51 pm
Julio, stop posting things I put on here onto your unban request.
It makes it look like:

1. We're the same person, so STOP IT!
2. You did actually hack, and are copying my ideas to make yourself look innocent

I know you actually didn't, but stop it now...I've told you twice already!

wtf, when did I copy you?
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Violet on December 05, 2010, 09:16:28 pm
Want to bet?

Explain to me, in mathematical terms about column vectors, Division of surds, multiplication of Surds and finish with a few explanations of Sine and CoSine

I didn't think anyone would put that they'd think I would hack, seeing some people saying Yes is a great disappoinment to me.
C grade maths at GCSE, you just looked through the contents page of your maths text book. I very much doubt you are an A* pupil considering I was the one who gave you AVDS driving lessons when you first joined the server.

Stop being such a drama queen, nobody actually gives a f**k about this drama. You have a self-inflated ego that I was previously unaware of, similar to one of GillieDaKid and Rex1985 who tend to make these topics when they are banned. The only good thing about this e-drama is that I now know who StrikeFreedom is, any idiot could have worked that out by now.


As for your time on Argonath being a waste of time, yes I would think so. There are very few people on the server who haven't actually wasted their time on Argonath, afterall it is just a game and in my opinion all games are a waste of time that players use for recreation. I would think that this place wouldn't be a waste of time if it provided relaxation and tranquility for the players but sadly, if you have come here to relax - you've come to the wrong place. You will be more pissed off upon connection than you were before you join the server. Some may argue that it's not Argonath's fault that people spend all their free time playing games and the arguement holds some truth - the expenditure of free time is at every player's discretion. Personally the only thing that makes me feel that this place is not a total waste of time is the fact that I have made quite a lot of friends in this place.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Void on December 05, 2010, 09:32:00 pm
Violet took my words ...
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Leon. on December 05, 2010, 09:47:34 pm
I am sad to see a fair few people have voted yes in my little poll

I thought I was more respected than that...
That's because people like to lol around.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Dave on December 05, 2010, 10:06:27 pm
I've been reliably informed by an anonymous person, that they have no idea who he is, but their belief is that he/she is the strictest admin, and he is an idiot, not my words.

Wow wow wow. Are you telling me I have competition?!
I should come back just to see this guy....he can't be as strict as me. No way.
Or a bigger idiot. :lol:
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Void on December 05, 2010, 10:13:05 pm
Wow wow wow. Are you telling me I have competition?!
I should come back just to see this guy....he can't be as strict as me. No way.
Or a bigger idiot. :lol:

Blacksky, you should come back.  :D
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Dave on December 05, 2010, 10:14:19 pm
Blacksky, you should come back.  :D

Nah. I can't be bothered lol. Too much hassle for me.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: dtlove on December 05, 2010, 10:23:30 pm
Nah. I can't be bothered lol. Too much hassle for me.

*cry**sniffle*Comeeee Bacckkkk, I need someone to rape and I've not been surfing ages......  :cry:
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Dave on December 05, 2010, 10:25:33 pm
*cry**sniffle*Comeeee Bacckkkk, I need someone to rape and I've not been surfing ages......  :cry:
Lol. Go talk to Greasy or Zai.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Void on December 05, 2010, 10:51:43 pm
Nah. I can't be bothered lol. Too much hassle for me.

Can I get an unban on the AV forums?  :lol:

For the moment there(Well the myth is still unsolved) I thought you are StrikeFreedom.
The myth is still not solved.


Too suspicious, I might say.
Although my sources will remain unrevealed.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: dtlove on December 05, 2010, 11:06:35 pm
Lol. Go talk to Greasy or Zai.

Neither will compensate for you <3
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 06, 2010, 12:03:27 am
May I just add, my ban for 'weapon hacking' on the Stunt server was false. I shot in an Rustler, but because there are no weapons etc in the server, the UC admin assumed I was hacking.

I believe this was realised in a matter of seconds

Julio/Joe

Violet, I have also made friends in this community, most are intelligent enough to stay out of topics where if they speak they will be criticised, no offence.

Come back Dave :(
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Dave on December 06, 2010, 12:07:02 am
Can I get an unban on the AV forums?  :lol:

For the moment there(Well the myth is still unsolved) I thought you are StrikeFreedom.
The myth is still not solved.


Too suspicious, I might say.
Although my sources will remain unrevealed.

Talk to Zaila about it.

And lol, don't worry, i'm not him. I resigned as an admin and left the community, I didn't change my name.  :lol:
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 06, 2010, 12:13:33 am
C grade maths at GCSE, you just looked through the contents page of your maths text book. I very much doubt you are an A* pupil considering I was the one who gave you AVDS driving lessons when you first joined the server.


What is that supposed to mean?
If you choose not to believe him, then there is nothing he can say to convince you otherwise.
What has an IG driving school have to do with A* Grades at an English Comprehensive school? I would like to see your reasoning on this matter.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 06, 2010, 12:15:19 am
Violet, the way I spoke english then was with terms of slang and so on.

I do not really use it anymore unless I am 'playing dumb'
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Violet on December 06, 2010, 12:45:26 am
Violet, I have also made friends in this community, most are intelligent enough to stay out of topics where if they speak they will be criticised, no offence.
Please elaborate...

What is that supposed to mean?
If you choose not to believe him, then there is nothing he can say to convince you otherwise.
What has an IG driving school have to do with A* Grades at an English Comprehensive school? I would like to see your reasoning on this matter.
You both couldn't understand basic English that was being used in Summer 2009, therefore it looks pretty obvious to me that you both are borderline C grade students. Intelligence usually is relative to academic performance. I used to go to an English grammar school so don't pull the comprehensive card on me  :lol:

Violet, the way I spoke english then was with terms of slang and so on.

I do not really use it anymore unless I am 'playing dumb'
Languages have a capital letter on the first letter of them in English as they are proper nouns. That is taught in primary school.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Jamal on December 06, 2010, 01:18:39 am
Wow wow wow. Are you telling me I have competition?!
I should come back just to see this guy....he can't be as strict as me. No way.
Or a bigger idiot. :lol:
lolz dont worry you'll never be beaten.

Julio, stop posting things I put on here onto your unban request.
It makes it look like:

1. We're the same person, so STOP IT!
2. You did actually hack, and are copying my ideas to make yourself look innocent

I know you actually didn't, but stop it now...I've told you twice already!
Anyone else suspicious now. You stated you were on different computers, why not you walk to your 'brother' and tell him this rather than post it on here. He obviously didn't get the memo the first 2 times you said it [as if your trying to show us you want your 'brother' to stop saying the same thing...], so maybe telling him in person is better?

All of above is made under the implications you are the same person... I do not believe you are the same person but I'm just pointing it out.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Void on December 06, 2010, 09:34:08 am
The most noble players are those who circled "Unsure".
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 06, 2010, 06:14:08 pm
Please elaborate...
You both couldn't understand basic English that was being used in Summer 2009, therefore it looks pretty obvious to me that you both are borderline C grade students. Intelligence usually is relative to academic performance. I used to go to an English grammar school so don't pull the comprehensive card on me  :lol:
Languages have a capital letter on the first letter of them in English as they are proper nouns. That is taught in primary school.

Grammar Nazi?

This is an online game, why the hell would you want me to go round using perfect grammar, Seriously...

You forgot a fullstop, you must be lying about going to a Grammar School.



Excuse me, but why are you bullshitting about not understanding basic English? I live in England, have done all my life, I was 13 years old when I first joined, so you are saying I could not understand English? Complete crap, you know it, I know it, everyone else knows it.

Posting pictures on Member Pics of yourself, I took your word on it you are female, yet you will not take my word for anything when the proof is quite literally written on the forums?

Most of that Post was complete and Utter Crap, and your forgetfulness of a fullstop has made you disgrace yourself. I am disappointed.

If you must know, I plan to join the Royal Air Force as an Aeronautical Engineer, which requires excellent Maths, Physics, or I am interested in Accountancy.

If you want me to take a picture of my exam results so far, so be it, just because you are vain enough to assume you are always trusted and no-one else tells the truth.


If you really want to argue about that, please take it to my Inbox rather than here, since I do not think anyone else will want to hear an Argument about exam grades from someone who could be Male or Female, because no-one trusts that fact anymore.


Its not related to what Gender you are or anything, I am making a point that people still do not actually know, even though you have 'told them.' Based on trust again you see?



You want Truth?



Profile

Age:15
Gender:Male
Name: Joseph Samuel Daniel Harper
Interests: Flying, Aeromodelling, Walking
Nationality: White British - England
Favourite Film: Hot Fuzz
Favourite Book/Book Series: Cherub by Robert Muchamore
Favourite Band: Don't have one, mix and match
Main Friends in Argonath RPG: Ryan Stracci, Jenny Adams, Richard Marlen, CharlieKasper (from paruni) (sorry if forgotten anyone), PaulR, Lorenzo/Amaru, Curse



That Profile my friends, is fact.



Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 06, 2010, 06:59:55 pm
Violet, I really did not expect you to be a 'Grammar Nazi', as it were.
I do not care what you think I am in real life. If you choose not to believe me, then I cannot do anything about it.

What "comprehensive card"? I was merely stating a fact. I do not see where you are going with that. Do you have a problem with comprehensive schools? They get me the high-standard grades I wish for, so I do not see the advantage of going to a grammar school. As you will see by this post my English, when I want it to be, is impeccable, so do not look down on me because you went to a grammar school. That should have no influence in-game anyway. As you are a veteran Argonath player, I am surprised you still hold that type of attitude. You should know better than that.

Also, do not accuse me of lying to you, when I have never said anything untrue to you. You should have been taught about manners during Primary, and Secondary Socialisation.
And by the way, you missed a full stop after the sentence starting with "I used to go to...".
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Void on December 06, 2010, 08:49:40 pm
Interests: Walking

Walking? Did you mean J-walking?  :razz:
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 06, 2010, 08:58:13 pm
Walking? Did you mean J-walking?  :razz:

:devroll:

Maybe  :lol:

Nah, Hiking, that sort of thing, expeditions etc :)
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Oliver on December 06, 2010, 11:44:07 pm
Joe is a pretty cool guy, can he get unbanned?

He doesn't seem like the type of guy who's afraid to admit his mistakes, nor does he seem like a person who'd just throw a long time of being part of a community away on a whim.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Todor on December 07, 2010, 12:02:42 am
But seriously dude.. you taking this too seriously. It's not like anybody's putting you down, people need to learn from their mistakes and if that means that the lesson being taught to them is harsh then so be it.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Violet on December 07, 2010, 01:36:22 am
If you must insist on embarassing yourself...

Grammar Nazi?

This is an online game, why the hell would you want me to go round using perfect grammar, Seriously...

You forgot a fullstop, you must be lying about going to a Grammar School.
Who the f**k posts smilies after a full stop? Learn the etiquettes of brachygraphy before pointing a finger yourself. I don't actually care if you think I went to a Grammar School or not, I already have everything sorted  :cool:

Excuse me, but why are you bullshitting about not understanding basic English? I live in England, have done all my life, I was 13 years old when I first joined, so you are saying I could not understand English? Complete crap, you know it, I know it, everyone else knows it.
So babies born in England can write the Complete Works of William Shakespeare? The same reasoning applies here. I was merely stating that it was difficult to tell that you were from England. It's funny how you changed the way you spell the word English now, which shows everybody that you didn't even know languages were proper nouns.

Posting pictures on Member Pics of yourself, I took your word on it you are female, yet you will not take my word for anything when the proof is quite literally written on the forums?
Your displayed intellect on this forum and from what I have noticed in-game are a tiny fraction of what you claim.
 
Most of that Post was complete and Utter Crap, and your forgetfulness of a fullstop has made you disgrace yourself. I am disappointed.
No need to go all German and start capitalising everything  :rofl:

If you must know, I plan to join the Royal Air Force as an Aeronautical Engineer, which requires excellent Maths, Physics, or I am interested in Accountancy.
Lol. Aeronautical Engineering and Accountancy. Define excellence as both courses are notoriously easy to enter. There should be an 'and' instead of the 'or', as from the looks of things you are interested in both, not just one of the courses  :bird:

If you want me to take a picture of my exam results so far, so be it, just because you are vain enough to assume you are always trusted and no-one else tells the truth.
Says the guy that got banned for hacks and protests his innocence. The worst thing is that your IQ appears to be decreasing gradually in every post that you have made since you have been banned.

If you really want to argue about that, please take it to my Inbox rather than here, since I do not think anyone else will want to hear an Argument about exam grades from someone who could be Male or Female, because no-one trusts that fact anymore.

Its not related to what Gender you are or anything, I am making a point that people still do not actually know, even though you have 'told them.' Based on trust again you see?
People will trust the scripts more than you, apologies for the truth.

You want Truth?



Profile

Age:15
Gender:Male
Name: Joseph Samuel Daniel Harper
Interests: Flying, Aeromodelling, Walking
Nationality: White British - England
Favourite Film: Hot Fuzz
Favourite Book/Book Series: Cherub by Robert Muchamore
Favourite Band: Don't have one, mix and match
Main Friends in Argonath RPG: Ryan Stracci, Jenny Adams, Richard Marlen, CharlieKasper (from paruni) (sorry if forgotten anyone), PaulR, Lorenzo/Amaru, Curse



That Profile my friends, is fact.
And you had to post that here, because? You're making a complete mockery out of yourself. My advice would be to quit while you're ahead.




This is just a lame attempt at attention seeking. This isn't going to help your unban request at all, which obviously was your intention for making such a puerile thread.


I can understand you are defending your brother and all that but don't let him bring you down too.
Violet, I really did not expect you to be a 'Grammar Nazi', as it were.
I do not care what you think I am in real life. If you choose not to believe me, then I cannot do anything about it.
There's the one thing that seperates you from the person whose argument I just destroyed.

What "comprehensive card"? I was merely stating a fact.
You were giving an flattering your brother for coming through the comprehensive system as if it were some kind of chore which I found quite retarded, if I'm being honest with you. You don't get the right to say 'Hey I got a few passes even though I went to a comprehensive.'

Do you have a problem with comprehensive schools? They get me the high-standard grades I wish for, so I do not see the advantage of going to a grammar school.
It just looks like you're mad you failed the 11+ to me.

As you will see by this post my English, when I want it to be, is impeccable, so do not look down on me because you went to a grammar school. That should have no influence in-game anyway.
You're making the same mistake as your brother, have a look at what I've said above and you should realise it. It's what they used to call a 'level two' error back in year five  :D

As you are a veteran Argonath player, I am surprised you still hold that type of attitude. You should know better than that.
What do you mean by 'still'? If someone claims that they are somehow better than everyone, which is essentially what your brother has done then as he hasn't got the credentials to prove his words, he should have anticipated the flood of criticism that would be coming his way.

Also, do not accuse me of lying to you, when I have never said anything untrue to you. You should have been taught about manners during Primary, and Secondary Socialisation.
And by the way, you missed a full stop after the sentence starting with "I used to go to...".
Please direct me to a quote where I have said you have lied to me. It just looks like you are making up words to keep yourself in the arguement for the sake of it. You too need to learn how to punctuate, I'd probably skim read whatever you've just written and see that you've used different spellings for the same words before trying to tell anyone how to use grammar in a tachygraphy manner.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Oliver on December 07, 2010, 08:19:52 am
Joe had a really nice post, he actually made me giggle like a little girl.

Violet's post, on the other hand, is extremely boring and doesn't seem to be anything other than simple protection of his fragile ego.

(http://www.startrip.tv/images/2007/07/16/simon_cowell.jpg)
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 07, 2010, 05:51:39 pm
Lol. Aeronautical Engineering and Accountancy. Define excellence as both courses are notoriously easy to enter.
You've got to be having a laugh. The RAF are decreasing in size, getting rid of people, and accepting a minimal amount of people. It is notoriously difficult to get into at the moment, in any line of work. Please get your facts right on this matter.

I can understand you are defending your brother and all that but don't let him bring you down too.There's the one thing that seperates you from the person whose argument I just destroyed.
Me and him are completely different.

You were giving an flattering your brother for coming through the comprehensive system as if it were some kind of chore which I found quite retarded, if I'm being honest with you. You don't get the right to say 'Hey I got a few passes even though I went to a comprehensive.'
It just looks like you're mad you failed the 11+ to me.
Can't really make out the sentence, but I am not flattering him. You cannot fail a GCSE, so it is not impressive to say that, you are right. It isn't bad though, you must agree, to get straight A's and A*'s at comprehensive schools, considering that at my school, the A*-C rate is about 50%.

You're making the same mistake as your brother, have a look at what I've said above and you should realise it. It's what they used to call a 'level two' error back in year five  :D
If you are referring to the "grammar school" bit, then I am correct. I am talking about a generalisation of schools, not a specific school.

What do you mean by 'still'? If someone claims that they are somehow better than everyone, which is essentially what your brother has done then as he hasn't got the credentials to prove his words, he should have anticipated the flood of criticism that would be coming his way.
A lot of players, when they join, have certain beliefs, a generalisation I know, but after a lot of time on Argonath, you should learn we are all equal.
 
Please direct me to a quote where I have said you have lied to me. It just looks like you are making up words to keep yourself in the arguement for the sake of it.
Alright then...
it looks pretty obvious to me that you both are borderline C grade students.
I said that we were A and A* pupils, so by this challenge, you are suggesting I am a liar.

You too need to learn how to punctuate, I'd probably skim read whatever you've just written and see that you've used different spellings for the same words before trying to tell anyone how to use grammar in a tachygraphy manner.
Go on then, find them.

Also, prove to me what grades you have got. Finally, why should I believe that you have gone to a 'Grammar School'?

Joe had a really nice post, he actually made me giggle like a little girl.

Violet's post, on the other hand, is extremely boring and doesn't seem to be anything other than simple protection of his fragile ego.

 :rofl: Very nice of you to say, Oliver.  :)
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 07, 2010, 05:57:12 pm
What Made you think Aeronautical Engineering was easy to enter into Violet

Clearly you need to start learning about the job situation at the moment, and how much the Royal Air Force has shrunk.

Let me just make this clear, the Royal Air Force now contains less planes than Pre-1914, that is not a lot.



And please, do not make an idiot out of yourself by making out I am wrong, I did this as a presentation, and it accounted for part of the way to me being promoted into a Corporal
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 07, 2010, 06:10:37 pm
I forgot Jimmy Cuneo on my friends list :(

:P
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Todor on December 07, 2010, 11:51:04 pm
inb4 he bites my balls off:
Violet, stop embarrassing yourself. You don't know everything.
actually thinking straight:
Ma bad.. he's rarely wrong anyway. TBH this discussion is pointless.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Violet on December 08, 2010, 12:27:49 am
Joe had a really nice post, he actually made me giggle like a little girl.

Violet's post, on the other hand, is extremely boring and doesn't seem to be anything other than simple protection of his fragile ego.

(http://www.startrip.tv/images/2007/07/16/simon_cowell.jpg)
You post in this thread in order to troll. I post in this thread because someone ought to stop the attention seeking that is spreading over these forums.



You've got to be having a laugh. The RAF are decreasing in size, getting rid of people, and accepting a minimal amount of people. It is notoriously difficult to get into at the moment, in any line of work. Please get your facts right on this matter.
Bullshit. It is easy to get into university for that course. Shame that you have to pay thousands more than me thanks to Mr Clegg.

Me and him are completely different.
You both have very similar spelling, I can tell you both have gone to either the same primary or secondary schools if not both.

Can't really make out the sentence, but I am not flattering him. You cannot fail a GCSE, so it is not impressive to say that, you are right. It isn't bad though, you must agree, to get straight A's and A*'s at comprehensive schools, considering that at my school, the A*-C rate is about 50%.
It's not a super-achievement and going to a comprehensive certainly does not give anyone any leverage. I would quit using it as some sort of achievement.

If you are referring to the "grammar school" bit, then I am correct. I am talking about a generalisation of schools, not a specific school.
No, you were just defending your brother when you knew he was in the wrong as well as mistaking your opinion as the truth.

A lot of players, when they join, have certain beliefs, a generalisation I know, but after a lot of time on Argonath, you should learn we are all equal.
 Alright then...I said that we were A and A* pupils, so by this challenge, you are suggesting I am a liar.
Go on then, find them.
A-grade bullshit. If we were all equal, then your brother wouldn't be spamming the shit into the forum whining about his ban and protesting that he is innocent. He would have stuck to his unban request(s) which people much, much more established in this community than both of you put together such as Maxy and Legend, both of whom have been banned for apparently hacking have done instead of bringing in your unban request to every f**king thread he can find and making useless polls that make no difference whatsoever to whoever will accept or deny his unban request.

Also, prove to me what grades you have got. Finally, why should I believe that you have gone to a 'Grammar School'?
I got all As in science subjects at A level, that's all you need to know - everyone that knows me well enough in this community knows that too ;)



What Made you think Aeronautical Engineering was easy to enter into Violet
Probably very easy for me to enter, it's unintersting for me too though. Will be harder for you of course.

Clearly you need to start learning about the job situation at the moment, and how much the Royal Air Force has shrunk.
Someone reads the Daily Fail a bit too much. The GCSE and A level requirements for the course are easy, the universities that offer it as a single degree on the whole are also shit.


Let me just make this clear, the Royal Air Force now contains less planes than Pre-1914, that is not a lot.
What has the number of planes got to do with it? You're not going to by flying any of them with Aeronautical Engineering, you will be designing and fixing them.

And please, do not make an idiot out of yourself by making out I am wrong, I did this as a presentation, and it accounted for part of the way to me being promoted into a Corporal
LOL.

Quote from: National Statistics
UK Armed Forces - Monthly Manning Report - released 2nd December 2010

    * The full time trained strength of the UK Armed Forces was 178,220 at 1 November 2010. This was a 0.5% deficit against the requirement of 179,040.
    * Intake into the UK Regular Forces was 15,520 in the 12 months to 31 October 2010; a decrease of 28.8% compared with the 12 months to 31 March 2010.
    * Outflow from the UK Regular Forces was 18,230 in the 12 months to 31 October 2010; a decrease of 1.8% compared with the 12 months to 31 March 2010.
For anyone who gets As at GCSE, I would anticipate entry to the RAF being a walk in the park... I would focus more on your GCSEs before you try to enter university, it's a good five years before you can even applyto join the RAF.

Don't forget I live in the Midlands too, I am always a couple of steps ahead of you but that's set to change in September when I'll probably decide to move to KCL :cool:
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Ben. on December 08, 2010, 05:25:26 pm
Bullshit. It is easy to get into university for that course. Shame that you have to pay thousands more than me thanks to Mr Clegg.
For someone in the Air Training Corps, I admit it is a lot easier. You can be sponsored through university, or you can go to Welbeck College, all paid for by the RAF. For other people, yes, the rates are very steep :S

You both have very similar spelling, I can tell you both have gone to either the same primary or secondary schools if not both.
Well done! We are twin brothers, and yes, we did go to the same primary and secondary school.

It's not a super-achievement and going to a comprehensive certainly does not give anyone any leverage. I would quit using it as some sort of achievement.
I never said it was. I said it wasn't bad. Going to a grammar school does not give any leverage either. Its not an achievement, all it shows is that I couldn't be bothered to sit the entrance exam for Queen Mary's  :lol:

A-grade bullshit. If we were all equal, then your brother wouldn't be spamming the shit into the forum whining about his ban and protesting that he is innocent. He would have stuck to his unban request(s) which people much, much more established in this community than both of you put together such as Maxy and Legend, both of whom have been banned for apparently hacking have done instead of bringing in your unban request to every f**king thread he can find and making useless polls that make no difference whatsoever to whoever will accept or deny his unban request.
His choice, not mine. However, I am not going to turn against him in front of the entire community. I'm not that type of person.

I got all As in science subjects at A level, that's all you need to know - everyone that knows me well enough in this community knows that too ;)
I'll believe you when you believe me.
Going off a bit here, but anyway...
How much harder is A Level Physics to GCSE Physics? I want to do that A Level, along with Maths and something else, because they are good A Levels to take you into engineering  :D



What has the number of planes got to do with it? You're not going to by flying any of them with Aeronautical Engineering, you will be designing and fixing them.
Its a simple diagram to imagine.
Less planes ---> Less people needed to work on them ---> Less jobs available.

For anyone who gets As at GCSE, I would anticipate entry to the RAF being a walk in the park... I would focus more on your GCSEs before you try to enter university, it's a good five years before you can even apply to join the RAF.
Correct. I am 15 at the moment, and to become an 'Engineering Officer' you need to be at least 21. If you do not want to be an officer, you may join when you are 18, but that is an NCO route.

Don't forget I live in the Midlands too, I am always a couple of steps ahead of you but that's set to change in September when I'll probably decide to move to KCL
West Midlands is the best... :roll:
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Jingle on December 08, 2010, 05:59:50 pm
This is a very informative and interesting thread, I think there should a be section allowing people to complain about their bans.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Drastic on December 08, 2010, 06:04:24 pm
Indeed, I would want to get some attention when I get banned.
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Julio. on December 08, 2010, 06:09:08 pm
It would not have been posted if anyone could post in unban requests.

I wanted to see if anyone would actually believe I'd hack :P
Title: Re: Has my time in this community been wasted?
Post by: Cutt3r on December 08, 2010, 06:09:42 pm
Dont need to make a topic to moan about your ban when your own mods or hacks have caused it...

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