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Title: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Leon. on December 29, 2010, 01:54:45 pm
>Shit bricks
http://www.azellusgames.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=13&func=view&catid=3&id=472 (http://www.azellusgames.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=13&func=view&catid=3&id=472)
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Leon. on December 29, 2010, 02:04:06 pm
btw irony
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Eminem. on December 29, 2010, 02:04:39 pm
Oh my...
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Exclusive. on December 29, 2010, 02:04:53 pm
oops.
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: CharlieKasper on December 29, 2010, 02:23:45 pm
...
That guy was serious in his Unban Request O.O
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Halogenn on December 29, 2010, 02:24:39 pm
How sad and frustrated you need to be to do that? Seriously, it's just a game :wow:
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Hidduh on December 29, 2010, 02:25:51 pm
...
That guy was serious in his Unban Request O.O

And who will be 'that guy'?
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: (tr)Ollie on December 29, 2010, 02:27:41 pm
Lol it's quite funny to see this seeing as it is just a game but what he says is the truth.
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: CharlieKasper on December 29, 2010, 02:36:47 pm
And who will be 'that guy'?
Need to check all those Closed Unban request again.. -_-
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Antonio. on December 29, 2010, 02:38:47 pm
He mad.
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Biggo2 on December 29, 2010, 02:40:47 pm
Shit, this is just a load of fucking bullshit. But that guy does make a point, but he's an asshole for trying to sue a game...
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Hidduh on December 29, 2010, 02:41:19 pm
Need to check all those Closed Unban request again.. -_-

Never mind found it.
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: JDC on December 29, 2010, 02:59:19 pm
This shit is going to Encyclopedia Dramatica under page "Butthurt". :rofl:
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: MrFrancis on December 29, 2010, 03:00:10 pm
He mad, srs...

Who is this guy?
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Kent on December 29, 2010, 03:05:50 pm
Any server is allowed to restrict any kind of speech.
hemad
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Void on December 29, 2010, 03:12:12 pm
This shit is going to Encyclopedia Dramatica under page "Butthurt". :rofl:

I remember him. He used to talk about 4chan and /b/ stuff with some other troll. Good that Strike solved it immediately.
Then he started moaning about "freedom of speech".

My father was always right: "You won't be a lawyer till I'm breathing because they are nothing but a smelly turd wrapped up in a pretty, nice box"  :lol:
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Ben. on December 29, 2010, 03:47:03 pm
Any server is allowed to restrict any kind of speech.
hemad

Not if it's against a Statutory Law, for example, human rights/freedom of speech.
Rules/laws cannot be made if they go against a Statutory Law.



It was only a matter of time before something like this happened, there has been talk like this in various different unban requests for a while now. Not saying I agree, I personally think its weird to sue a game, but I have a suspicion he is correct. I argued about something like this not too long ago, and also pointed out the problem with Synikalle's permanent ban. The thing I feared would happen has happened.
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Zaila on December 29, 2010, 03:59:23 pm
If you would read the whole message, he haven't said he has sued the community, only that he's gonna do it if he dosen't get an unban. My personal opinion is that he's just acting like a kid, there is thousands of servers out there, yet he is threatning to take legal actions against ArgonathRPG just because he got banned..
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Joe_Areli on December 29, 2010, 04:16:55 pm
Put him in court against person with doctorate and he will surely think over bullshit like this. Actually server owner has right to ban without reason. So cool story that he wrote :D
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: mushy on December 29, 2010, 04:18:43 pm
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I remember him. He used to talk about 4chan and /b/ stuff with some other troll.
So he was talking about something inappropriate, he got banned. He says he got banned for informing the admins of his rights to free speech. I can get banned from every bar in Manchester if I go in and talk about inappropriate stuff to the staff and patrons. I agree it's slightly childish.
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Wash on December 29, 2010, 04:19:38 pm
:D
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: mushy on December 29, 2010, 04:21:40 pm
LOL I just read the thread title properly. Speech Impediment you are a comic genius Luigi
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on December 29, 2010, 04:23:46 pm
If I had the chance, Id sue Argonath without the Unban=Drop of case thing. I have been many times offended by people, mainly in the Argonath Staff who limit me to my expressions and political views. I support this guy 100%. The limit of speech and censorship in Argonath should be removed. This will ruin my chances for a unban, but...I cant take being limited of what I say.
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Rusty on December 29, 2010, 04:26:29 pm
Oh wow ...
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: [SE]Dr_Pepper27 on December 29, 2010, 04:28:16 pm
guize its a game plz
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: mushy on December 29, 2010, 04:29:43 pm
The internet is generally more free willed. Very few libel cases can be taken against bloggers and their blogs because it's such a vast medium. We don't want to stop you saying what you want Chopper, just keep it appropriate for the community.
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on December 29, 2010, 04:34:02 pm
The internet is generally more free willed. Very few libel cases can be taken against bloggers and their blogs because it's such a vast medium. We don't want to stop you saying what you want Chopper, just keep it appropriate for the community.

>Implying I am limited for showing or eaven mentioning my nazi political views
>Implying communism is allowed, and many people show off that they are communist, and they shamelessly show it. And owners support them but do not allow national socialism.
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: mushy on December 29, 2010, 04:40:29 pm
I apologise for presuming you tried to convert the server to Neo-Nazism. I am unaware of the incident(s) which led to your ban. What I meant with the libel thing was, the internet is difficult to police. Generally it takes a careering path downhill because the decorum of daily life isn't present behind a computer screen. I'm not saying that if you were in Picadilly Gardens handing out leaflets about an extreme right (or left) political view that you would be taken away but if you tried to drill it to the police about free speech a little too much they wouldn't be happy.
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Flakattak_88 on December 29, 2010, 04:43:29 pm


AND THAT AZELLUS  GAMING BS is f**king Illuminati shit, (http://sleekupload.com/uploads/5/untitled3_52.jpg)

IT HAS DA FACKING PYRAMID AND EYE and it is also shaped like a pentagram, yeah now I am da nutter of argonath
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Webster on December 29, 2010, 04:46:40 pm
Oh the irony.
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on December 29, 2010, 04:48:08 pm
I apologise for presuming you tried to convert the server to Neo-Nazism. I am unaware of the incident(s) which led to your ban.

WHAT?!  :lol: :lol: :lol: Jesus...I never tried to turn it into a Neo Nazi server -.- Also, I was banned for nazism, which was complete bullshit if you ask me once, currently banned for moaning when there is no such rule as "No Moaning" ANYWHERE in the rule lists. So I think it should either be updated or admins start banning only for rulebreaking.
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: SushiSaurus on December 29, 2010, 04:53:26 pm
All I can say is /me sighs at the World.
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Jcstodds on December 29, 2010, 05:00:45 pm

  If this court case is happening ingame, I can be a lawyer.
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Leon. on December 29, 2010, 05:03:31 pm
  If this court case is happening ingame, I can be a lawyer.
LOL
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: [SE]Dr_Pepper27 on December 29, 2010, 05:05:03 pm
argonath i sue u cuz in my country dm is allowed irl so when i dm ig i get banned I SUE U
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: mushy on December 29, 2010, 05:09:04 pm
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argonath i sue u cuz in my country dm is allowed irl so when i dm ig i get banned I SUE U
But that's the point. Even an organisation as big as the BBC ignore the right to free speech up to a certain degree. That's why Frankie Boyle left to go to Channel 4.
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Biggo2 on December 29, 2010, 05:10:57 pm
What exactly is his name? I can't find his request :/
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Leon. on December 29, 2010, 05:14:51 pm
But that's the point. Even an organisation as big as the BBC ignore the right to free speech up to a certain degree. That's why Frankie Boyle left to go to Channel 4.
Big Black Cock?
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: mushy on December 29, 2010, 05:17:57 pm
Yes that's definitely the name of the biggest broadcaster in Europe.
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Ben. on December 29, 2010, 06:07:20 pm
To say things about the ban on this topic, you need to have viewed his unban request...
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=62451.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=62451.0)

He wasn't banned for saying inappropriate things like 4*** etc.
Read this, then comment. Not the other way round.
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Enzo Adinolfi on December 29, 2010, 06:20:29 pm
Where the f**k is Cyber Law of EU? IS he f**kin nerd/idiot? Its just freaking Game.

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Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Ben. on December 29, 2010, 06:21:49 pm
Where the f**k is Cyber Law of EU? IS he f**kin nerd/idiot? Its just freaking Game.

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Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Void on December 29, 2010, 06:40:45 pm
These kind of people do not succeed in life because they do not work their way, they want everything to be served on a plate to them and they are led by the saying "My mommy/daddy will take care of it". Every spoiled person I've met, is either cleaning the garbage now(After a prestigious college) or work at the mall or something. Yet, you can see from this example that Argonath is a really, really bad drug. He sues in belief that he'll get an unban. Why does he want the unban again? because he wants to play. All this circus because he cannot get the way he wants.



Don't hate him.
Just let him go, he already has a great burden on his back. Himself.

Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Ben. on December 29, 2010, 06:43:33 pm
These kind of people do not succeed in life because they do not work their way, they want everything to be served on a plate to them and they are led by the saying "My mommy/daddy will take care of it". Every spoiled person I've met, is either cleaning the garbage now(After a prestigious college) or work at the mall or something. Yet, you can see from this example that Argonath is a really, really bad drug. He sues in belief that he'll get an unban. Why does he want the unban again? because he wants to play. All this circus because he cannot get the way he wants.



Don't hate him.
Just let him go, he already has a great burden on his back. Himself.

:O Did you do Philosophy in an A Level or something? Thats deep stuff  :redface:
Also very true, if he didn't want to play here he would not have sued Argonath. I agree, he wants things his way, or not at all. In other words, either he gets to play Argonath, or nobody does (his opinion).
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: EminemRulez on December 29, 2010, 06:48:43 pm
He forgot one very basic thing...
It is a fucking game, also the owners has the right to strict everything as they want, they didn't invite you here... You come here and play by their rules or make a server for himself...
People insulting him - you should watch your word or he's going to sue you to the cyber police 'eh. :rofl:
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Gimli on December 29, 2010, 06:56:09 pm
Please do not spread rumours. It was only a law student wanting to be unbanned and threatening with legal action. To my knowledge, he didn't actually do anything.

Suing the Argonath RPG administration team is funny as it is hardly a legal entity from a legal perspective.

If you want to see Argonaths reply, look at his unban request which was denied: http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=62451 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=62451)
Title: Re: >Argonath gets sued for freedom of speech impediment
Post by: Sauron on December 29, 2010, 07:43:23 pm
Azellus games has answered to him, and for those who even remotely believe he has a case, I have th permission of the sender to post the anwer:

Quote
We  have  looked  in to the complaint, and found that you have clearly
misrepresented  your case. On the public forums it has been made clear
that  you  have  not  been  banned  from  the  server  because  of any
censorship,  but  for  the  use  of inappropriate language towards the
administration team.
Your  following actions of misrepresenting the reason for banning, and
threatening  with  legal  actions  in  order  to  remove a ban that is
invalid  only by your misrepresentation of the case have made it clear
that your presence if unbanned on these grounds would become an effort
to further disturb the server.
I  also  refer  you to the passage where it says that ArgonathRPG does
not   in   any   way censor freedom of expression. However freedom of
expression  does  not  inhibit  the  setting  of boundaries of what is
acceptable,  and  acting upon those. The consequences of transgressing
those  boundaries  are  your  responsibility,  and  do  not limit your
freedom of expression.
I  have  discussed  the  matter  with  the owners, and they noted that
regardless  of  the  permanent denial they are willing to restore your
access  to  the  server as soon as you will indicate that you will not
attempt  to use  the  right  of  freedom of expression to disturb the
server  or  its  administration  team.  Any attempts to transgress the
boundaries  set  by the owners and administration will lead to further
consequences for which you are solely responsible.

I hope to have sufficiently handled your complaint, and se no need for
further actions at this time.

Kind regards,


Azellus Games
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