Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => Topic started by: Leon. on January 14, 2011, 11:38:12 pm
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Hello, my dearest comrades,
Not too long ago, I was a victim of having my personal information spread, in particular, my phone number. It was spread via Argonath Teamspeak, one of the few places on Argonath that has no chat logs at all. My phone number was spread there, and was then posted on 4chan, the place of crazed internet maniacs. I then received various text messages, calls, and voicemails, that contained messages such as "where u live," "how old r u," and "hey sexy." They later stopped the next day. And 10 minutes ago upon writing of this sentence, I received them again. I had hoped that they wouldn't come back, and saw that they probably won't over the following weeks. I was wrong. But the difference between this time and last time is that a) I received much more sexual harassing messages that could be directed at a female, b) I actually had one of the messagers help me out, and last but absolutely not least, c) I got a hold of the 4chan thread this time.
In the next paragraph(s), names have been changed to protect their identities. They are all members of Argonath.
Within a group, me and some very good friends of high ranks in that group posted their numbers on a thread restricted only to those high ranks in cases of emergencies. All phone numbers were confirmed to belong to those who said that they own those phone numbers. One day (the day on teamspeak), I called John while he was on teamspeak. He said his phone was ringing, and Billy asked who it was. John read the number out loud, and Billy kept it at heart. Billy thought it would be funny to post my number on 4chan, so he did it. And I got the calls. I had attempted to submit a report to the high ranks of Argonath regarding the incident, but unfortunately for me, I didn't have the 4chan thread (4chan is spammed to absolute high hell), Teamspeak wasn't logged (so the spread couldn't be confirmed), and my overall evidence is barely convicting. It was decided that the best solution was to call the police. Not wanting to make a really huge deal out of this (you know, officer coming over, asking for my parents, parents flip straight the hell out...), I was going to give a maximum of a week for the calls to stop before I called the police. Luckily for me, the calls stopped the next day. But it wasn't going to end there... just today, they started again. Only this time, the 4chan thread's poster posed as a (rather good looking) girl and posted my phone number, telling them to call it. I have no idea why it would suddenly be posted again, but the fact of the matter is, it was. Anyway, luckily for me, one of the people who text messaged me (who started out asking for my age) actually willingly gave me the exact thread link when I asked him to. It just goes to show at least some people choose to turn in the wrong direction to cross the right direction...
Now getting to the point...
Comrades, hear my message. You've probably heard this tons and tons of times from all sorts of people, but you've never heard it from an actual victim; one who can actually say the negatives of what will happen in a legit fashion, as they have experienced it before. You may have heard "DONT DO HEAROIN" from all of the doctors who have never done heroin themselves... they're pulling shit out of their ass. The heroin users themselves are 100% legit.
Now listen closely.
Please, for the sake of everybody you love, avoid posting ANY personal information at ALL. Even giving as little as your country can pinpoint you individually (while difficult). You never know when accidental cases are going to happen such as mine, where your phone number is unintentionally given out and abused by those who get it.
When your phone number is posted online on such a crazed site like that where all sorts of people lurk, you're in a real danger, especially if you're a female (or said to be a female by the poster). You'd be VERY surprised at what lengths some people will go to just to have sex. All for what reason? Your unique information pinpointed DIRECTLY to you and you only, thereby giving direct access to you.
And a message to those who find it funny to post phone numbers... yes, I know it can be funny to see him get those hilarious phone calls like "HEY WANNA HAVE SEX?!?" But PLEASE, all I can ask of you is to have some dignity, and some empathy of your victim, and please DO NOT do such things. The most I can say is that it will make your funny situation much more difficult, not only for the victim, but also for you.
We have some very, VERY, great people on Argonath. I'll even admit, there's some people I would actually like to meet in real life. But then again, there's some of those who are just completely not empathetical, stupidly arrogant, and utterly ignorant, who thinks it's always about them. Those people are the ones who seem like they have those friends when they team up with them, but in fact, they would throw them away in a split second.
I used to be high-security all the time, going as far as making my own fake identity for the internet. And if I ever were to not use a false identity, I would never, EVER, go beyond saying my first name (which is a very common name). For some reason, I've changed from too-much to too-little.
I will not be filing a lawsuit or calling the police on the 4chan poster, the phone number spreaders, or those who called me. To be honest, I am terrified of law authorities, despite the fact that I am a law abiding citizen. But either way, I am still also doing this out of generosity. As we speak, I will be cooperating with moot, the owner/creator of 4chan, and hopefully with the owners of Argonath in order to pinpoint who may have done this. I have a good idea who did it, but not enough proof to get him convicted. And maybe the thread I managed to find was posted by somebody else who saw the other thread with my phone number. So what, justice will be served.
Good day, ladies and gentlemen,
Leon Gvardia,
Your beloved, your enemy, your friend
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Argonath is a community which boasts over 7600 members from across the world representing a diverse cultural background combined with a rich heritage. We have a global reach which outweighs most multinational companies which is admirable yet poses some issues regarding the well being of our community.
Argonath - a gateway for diverse, enriching global friendships
Argonath can be great way to chat to other people who share your interests, but you should always be careful not to pass on any of your personal details. You should always keep in mind that internet users can pretend to be anyone they like. They can lie about their age, their interests and whether they're male or female. No matter how long you've been chatting, remember that they're still strangers; you don't really know them at all. People can pretend to be your age. You simply don't know - nobody does.
(1) Argonath chatrooms (forums, in-game) and external communication (MSN, Skype, Facebook, Twitter etc):
When you're using MSN or posting on a message board in Argonath, never give out any personal information like your address or your phone number. You should always use a nickname, so no-one can look you up in a telephone directory and get your home phone number. It's usually not a good idea to arrange to meet up with someone that you've been chatting to online. Remember that you can never be sure that they're telling the truth about their age or their interests and you could be putting yourself in danger. If you do want to meet up with someone you've met online, make sure that you discuss it with your parents beforehand. If they do agree, make sure that you arrange a meeting in a public place and that you take an responsible adult with you.
(2) Cyber bulling (harrasement)
Cyberbullying is a form of bullying and can be defined as the use of information and communications technology, deliberately to upset someone else. It can be used to carry out all different types of bullying, such as racist bullying, homophobic bullying, or bullying related to special educational needs and disabilities. Instead of the perpetrator carrying out the bullying in person, they use technology as a means of conducting the bullying.
Cyberbullying occurs in many different places online, including through instant messaging, on social networking sites, via email, and in chat rooms. The most common place cyberbullying occurs is over instant messenger. It can sometimes feel quite difficult to escape cyberbullying as bullies can use technology to target you at home or on your mobile, even if they're not right there in the room with you. For the cyberbully, there's the problem that once you send a bullying message or post something online, everyone can see it, and you can't take it back. Many cyberbullies think that no one will be able to find out who they are, but that's not true.
A lot of young people cyberbully deliberately - they set out to target another user online. But it's important to remember that some cyberbullying is done for a laugh, a bit of a joke. It doesn't mean it hurts any less, but often people just don't think about the consequences of their actions. And there is growing evidence that many young people don't take being online that seriously and hide behind anonymous profiles. Even though cyberbullying cannot physically hurt you, it can still leave you feeling mentally vulnerable and very upset. You can also feel scared, lonely and stressed and that there's no way out. Escaping cyberbullying can be very difficult. Because anyone can get access to a mobile phone or the internet almost anywhere, it can be tough for those on the receiving end to avoid it, even in the safety of their own home. Whether you or someone you know is being bullied, make sure you tell Argonath representatives what's going on.
Argonath safety tips:
- Never give out your real name
- Never tell anyone where you go to school
- Only meet someone from a chatroom in a public place with one of your parents or another adult. If they are genuinely who they say they are they will be happy to do this
- Never give out your address or telephone number
- Never agree to meet anyone from a chatroom on your own
- Tell an adult if someone makes inappropriate suggestions to you or makes you feel uncomfortable online
Argonath danger signs
- If the person tries to insist on having your address or phone number
- If the person emails you pictures which make you feel uncomfortable and which you would not want to show to anyone else
- If the person wants to keep their chats with you secret
- If the person tells you that you will get into trouble if you tell an adult what has been going on
- If the person emails you pictures which make you feel uncomfortable and which you would not want to show to anyone else
- If the person wants you to email them pictures of yourself or use a webcam in a way which makes you feel uncomfortable
- If the person shares information with you and tells you not to tell anyone else about it
- If the person wants to meet you and tells you not to let anyone know
Reference: http://www.google.co.uk/familysafety/ (http://www.google.co.uk/familysafety/)
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Which I have regretfully neglected, my good friend, Frank Hawk.
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Leon Gvardia,
your friend
i like the idea jesse and not to be a pest but this was made awhile back but still good idea i support it
Your Friend
Silver_Barzini
Just change your number ASAP...
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Looking at your original post, this seems to be a isolated incident to do with your mobile telephone?
If so, call your operator up and arrange for them to change your telephone number.
Whilst it may cause disruption, it's peace of mind looking forward.
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That totally blows, I feel sorry for you.
I wouldn't wish this on anyone to have random people from over the world phoning me and saying shit.
Change your number ASAP.
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Just change your number ASAP...
I lol'd in my head.
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Keel Billy?
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srsly Leon, i cant imagine that happening to you, i imagined you as the poster of the number :D
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Luigi, never post any information about yourself on websites that grants acces to more people.
However, Argonath is not in any way responsible for this incident. As Frank shared the quote, it states that it is recommended to keep all personal details for your own.
The world of its own (Argonath) is a safe place, however we cannot prevent incidents like that if your personal information is unrevealed to other people.
As for your phone number, i think turning off your phone for a week will make things settle down. If you keep getting such messages over a longer time, contact your local police dept. for further actions to be taken.
Good luck,
Ryan Caltson
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The best advice is to change your phone number. While initially there may heve been a mistake, once it is out there is no knowing who has it and how it will appear again.
As for any low-life who thinks such things are funny, find another community.
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As for any low-life who thinks such things are funny, find another community.
Amen, brother.
srsly Leon, i cant imagine that happening to you, i imagined you as the poster of the number :D
I've learned too much about dignity to do that.
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It's part of the reason why I never revealed my full name to anyone. Maybe a first name to close friends, but that's all. It's why I use my roleplay name for any registration to keep a firewall between my online life and my real one.
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trust no1
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Damn dude that sucks.. Get your phone number changed A.S.A.P
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Contact the Police Department if it continues. legal action could be taken on the person who spread the info aswell as those sending you messages. It may seem like a funny thing to do, but trust me i have dont it because my PC got hacked and they charged the guy who did it within a week.
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Damn dude that sucks.. Get your phone number changed A.S.A.P
Thanks for your sympathy :drunk:
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IMO a firewall would not be necessary (for any adult male) between online and offline were it not for 4chan and other anonymous boards.
Hopefully moot will trace the IP, anyway.
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Hello Leon, it's really boring to hear that you had to get your phone spammed with messages from unknown humans from around the globe.
But it's rather amusing to see the imaturity people show over the Internet, I would love to meet them in real life and say "Hi".
But just change your phone number ASAP and take cover in Queens, be safe bro.
Regards Murtaugh
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I would say you should block those numbers if your ISP offers online voicemail, but if its spread on a site like 4chan, then there's not much you can do other than change your phone number and call the police.
I'd just call your local police station, and they should send an officer out to your house to write a police report. The report will then be forwarded to police detectives, who usually have access to phone tracing services, and can arrest the offenders for "harassing phone calls". Trust me, it works. My dad one time wouldn't stop calling my mom and harassing her because she started dating another guy (even tho my mom and dad were divorced already). So she called the local police station, and a police officer came to our house and filed a report. He called my dad and warned him to stop calling or he'd be arrested. He didn't stop so detectives opened a warrant out for his arrest, and he got put in jail for a day. He learned his lesson and never harassed her again.
So yeah, just file a police report and change your number.
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What the f**k is this all about? And how does it connects to Argonath?
Are you save in the World of its Own? Yes, until the stupidity wins... You shared on public your phone number and now cry that it is abused? What does Argonath to your problem?
There was no a spread of the personal information... You were the one who made it public...
And for sure you wanted it to be public, otherwise would just use Private way... Now you are disappointed, omg they used my number...
The most what pissed me off - the name of our Community under the accusations...
ArgoLeaks ffs...
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So you told everyone your number and now pretend to be a victim? Brilliant.
No, he made a mistake cause of which he got into a lot of problems and harrastment, cause of which he made the topic as a warning to other fellow players, so they wont even think about giving their personal information.
Although I agree with Ron, that the tittle is bs, if I didn't knew you well personally, I would've got the same impression as him.
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Hello, my dearest comrades,
HIIIIIIIIIIII!
Seriously man, this sucks. I totally feel for you, as I know how it is. This happened to me once.
Not exactly with 4chan, but some "buddy" from my class posted my number on multiple dating sites... I assume you can figure out the rest.
After 3 days of looking for the correct sites and try to get "my" profile deleted, I gave up and changed my number.
If the 4chan shit doesn't quit, I recommend to change your number.
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How to block text messages and calls on ANDROID PHONES (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-G8b9-etdk#ws)
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What the f**k is this all about? And how does it connects to Argonath?
Are you save in the World of its Own? Yes, until the stupidity wins... You shared on public your phone number and now cry that it is abused? What does Argonath to your problem?
There was no a spread of the personal information... You were the one who made it public...
And for sure you wanted it to be public, otherwise would just use Private way... Now you are disappointed, omg they used my number...
The most what pissed me off - the name of our Community under the accusations...
ArgoLeaks ffs...
I agree with this, and thank-you for recognizing my (IG) RP group Aragorn. "ArgoLeaks" :lol:
Hopefully this incident will be a lesson to all young people who carelessly give away there details, even giving your name can be too much, in the world of google.
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What the f**k is this all about? And how does it connects to Argonath?
Are you save in the World of its Own? Yes, until the stupidity wins... You shared on public your phone number and now cry that it is abused? What does Argonath to your problem?
There was no a spread of the personal information... You were the one who made it public...
And for sure you wanted it to be public, otherwise would just use Private way... Now you are disappointed, omg they used my number...
The most what pissed me off - the name of our Community under the accusations...
ArgoLeaks ffs...
No offence, but the way InterPol look at things like this is your server, your problem, getting angry at Leon isnt going to change the face that this will be associated with Argonath.
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What the f**k is this all about? And how does it connects to Argonath?
Are you save in the World of its Own? Yes, until the stupidity wins... You shared on public your phone number and now cry that it is abused? What does Argonath to your problem?
There was no a spread of the personal information... You were the one who made it public...
And for sure you wanted it to be public, otherwise would just use Private way... Now you are disappointed, omg they used my number...
The most what pissed me off - the name of our Community under the accusations...
ArgoLeaks ffs...
I expected more maturity from a server owner. I was impressed by Gandalf's post, but your post is taking the piss.
We are not safe in "The World of its Own", there can be no argument about it. There is always a few people who will do things like this. A community is made through the people it, and the minority can affect it, as in this case.
Leon made a mistake, and tried to help other people by posting on this forum. He knows he was wrong, and he suffered for it. There is no need for you to be so critical and defensive.
I totally agree with Brad, I know it sucks but Argonath would be under scrutiny if anything happened involving members of the community.
He didn't share it publicly, if I read it right. Someone else made it public, he only phoned them.
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To be honest, RON is 100% right.
1.) You can't trust people you've never met,
2.) You may think it is is a "omgsikrit" topic where no one can see it, but clearly they can,
I feel sorry for you for posting your number somewhere that can lead to 4chan and the fact that you have some dickhead friends for doing this to you.
tl;dr don't post your fucking number anywhere that can lead to the interwebz
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You could have prevented it by just not giving your phone number to anyone, I don't mean to be a b!tch but it's your fault. :neutral:
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FYI, Leon wasn't the one who leaked the number, but the so-smart one guy under codename "John".
And piece of advise.
If you know someone who has past with gossiping and talks way too much, never tell them any of your personal information.
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What the f**k is this all about? And how does it connects to Argonath?
Are you save in the World of its Own? Yes, until the stupidity wins... You shared on public your phone number and now cry that it is abused? What does Argonath to your problem?
There was no a spread of the personal information... You were the one who made it public...
And for sure you wanted it to be public, otherwise would just use Private way... Now you are disappointed, omg they used my number...
The most what pissed me off - the name of our Community under the accusations...
ArgoLeaks ffs...
If you can't post here maturely, server owner Aragorn, I kindly ask you to not post at all.
I am appalled that the reputable Aragorn, of all people, posted such crap like this. It's no wonder why every single thread he posts in turns into an argument. What are you, a hot-blooded 12 year old? No, you're a grown man who is perfectly capable, like any other human being, of having a civilized conversation, but instead you choose to act like an undomesticated ape.
What the f**k is this all about? And how does it connects to Argonath?
Because your precious players happen to be involved.
There was no a spread of the personal information... You were the one who made it public...
So, according your infantile logic, I'm the one who posted my own phone number of 4chan's board /soc/, claiming I was some hot chick wanting to talk to some guys? Lay off the vodka.
And for sure you wanted it to be public
Okay, Aragorn. I am so hungry for attention and cock sucking that I'll go as far as putting my personal life in danger by putting my phone number on the most crazed site on the internet twice. But then when I start feeling awkward, I'll go and cry on SA:MP General for some more attention while I'm holding my balls to my stomach and hand in between my knees hoping for some awesome sympathy posts. I am totally posting this just because I want sympathy, not to warn my fellows out there that the awesome server of Argonath RPG actually has a handful of stupid people who choose to ruin peoples' lives for the lols.
Look at you, Aragorn. You, of all people, managed to piss off the happy-go-lucky chill Leon. You triggered my number 1 pet peeve. Congratu-fucking-lations, now are you proud of yourself?
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You shared on public your phone number and now cry that it is abused?
There was no a spread of the personal information... You were the one who made it public...
And for sure you wanted it to be public, otherwise would just use Private way... Now you are disappointed, omg they used my number...
He didn't make his phone number public, if you had read the topic properly you would know that. He gave his number to ONE person, who read it out (for some reason). Another person memorised/wrote it down and spread it on an anonymous forum. Tell me how that is public.
I also believe that Gandalf said Argonath was a private server, on an unban request by 'Synikalle', the annoying guy who sued us.
I'd say Argonath was public as well, but you just contradicted Gandalf. Either way, he did not publicise any information, so there is no need for the flaming. Talking normally works just as well when people bother to read correctly :roll:
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:o
Leon is just warning us, Chill guys D:
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Just so it's clear, how did your number get out in the first place?
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Just so it's clear, how did your number get out in the first place?
On group X's private section on the forum restricted only to the most trusted of high ranks, we have a phone number topic STRICTLY for emergencies. Say I'm just loling IRL kinda bored, don't feel like getting on Argonath at the time. But then I get a message regarding something, say, the leader's account got hacked and he's ordering people to DM for the lols, and the one who messaged me was the only one who knew it, and no admins were online, and he didn't have any administrator's MSN. I could easily turn from boredom to occupied (so this means I'm not cutting into IRL, mind you). I called one mate to return a message, and upon getting it, he read it out loud on teamspeak. One of the people there thereby got it, and it went from lolwut to OH LOOK A NUMBER.
Of course, the person who leaked it is a cop in-game. How ironic.
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Really convincing words. I wish you the best of luck getting rid of that bullshit. If it was your mobile phone, maybe get a new number, if possible :)
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The most funny part is, that the person responsible for sharing Leon's information, constantly moans about others spreading his in game information.
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Ollie, please don't shoot blind. Speculating, you can make other player's staying at Argonath, rather difficult.
Post the name if you have concrete evidence, only.
-Void
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Well, whoever it was, deserves to be banned from Argonath entirely.
I think spreading personal information no matter how it was obtained is wrong, both morally and legally (I imagine).
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Hmm, I think I know who
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The most funny part is, that the person responsible for sharing Leon's information, constantly moans about others spreading his in game information.
Would not be so sure.
Leon. I have a reasonable guess on chance of 50-50, I will be talking to one person, and we will be making a decision. For now, check your PM.
Hmm, I think I know who
Dont think so.
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Leon. I have a reasonable guess on chance of 50-50, I will be talking to one person, and we will be making a decision. For now, check your PM.
It's empty.
Anyway, John has simply made a very careless mistake. The only repercussion that came out of this were a few strange texts and what not, but it could have been much, MUCH worse. This is why I am warning you fellas out there.
John is forgiven for the mistake. Should another careless mistake such as this one be made, it won't go untouched.
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It's empty.
Anyway, John has simply made a very careless mistake. The only repercussion that came out of this were a few strange texts and what not, but it could have been much, MUCH worse. This is why I am warning you fellas out there.
John is forgiven for the mistake. Should another careless mistake such as this one be made, it won't go untouched.
John is apparently sorry.
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:ps: Aragorn
ÃÂÂÂýúõñþрó :banana:
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I'm gonna have to agree with RON here to some degree. (Wow, first I agree with Grz now with RON? Good year for me.)
Anyways, if you're going to give out things like your phone number, just expect shit like this to happen. The truth is, in a place where there is anonymity, you will experience true humanity in all of it's hideousness. People are dicks, you can't trust anyone. Let this be a lesson to you my friend, life will be filled with much more of humanity rearing it's ugly head at you.
Also, that "Post your facebook" thread is another great place for these kind of people to get information from Argonath's users.
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I'm gonna have to agree with RON here to some degree. (Wow, first I agree with Grz now with RON? Good year for me.)
Anyways, if you're going to give out things like your phone number, just expect shit like this to happen. The truth is, in a place where there is anonymity, you will experience true humanity in all of it's hideousness. People are dicks, you can't trust anyone. Let this be a lesson to you my friend, life will be filled with much more of humanity rearing it's ugly head at you.
Also, that "Post your facebook" thread is another great place for these kind of people to get information from Argonath's users.
That is a much more appropriate manner of posting this. Thank you so much, Maxy. I hope all others will heed my warning along with Maxy's, as shall I.
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That's why I have 1 Facebook for Argonath, and one for Normal use, I know many others do too.
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What the f**k is this all about? And how does it connects to Argonath?
Are you save in the World of its Own? Yes, until the stupidity wins... You shared on public your phone number and now cry that it is abused? What does Argonath to your problem?
There was no a spread of the personal information... You were the one who made it public...
And for sure you wanted it to be public, otherwise would just use Private way... Now you are disappointed, omg they used my number...
I agree with RON here, for once. :razz: Although it was not put very compassionately, but when has our dear Aragorn been known beating around the bush?
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The most funny part is, that the person responsible for sharing Leon's information, constantly moans about others spreading his in game information.
Now who could that be...
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Because your precious players happen to be involved.So, according your infantile logic, I'm the one who posted my own phone number of 4chan's board /soc/, claiming I was some hot chick wanting to talk to some guys? Lay off the vodka.Okay, Aragorn. I am so hungry for attention and cock sucking that I'll go as far as putting my personal life in danger by putting my phone number on the most crazed site on the internet twice. But then when I start feeling awkward, I'll go and cry on SA:MP General for some more attention while I'm holding my balls to my stomach and hand in between my knees hoping for some awesome sympathy posts. I am totally posting this just because I want sympathy, not to warn my fellows out there that the awesome server of Argonath RPG actually has a handful of stupid people who choose to ruin peoples' lives for the lols.
Look whos talking about immaturity...
1. If Argonath players will meet each other and fuck in some hotel, Argonath has fucking nothing to it... And this thread is mostly the same...
You gave info to some internet people and blame for that our servers... Are you fucking idiot? Then fucking shut down the whole internet...
2. Stupid people are everywhere around you cos stupidity is set by your own vision... So go to your fellows and tell them the secret of the year... You can blame the whole planet Earth for having stupids and idiots...
3. According to my infantile logic you are more logical for sure if told your phone number to some people and now blame in it Argonath... We have no your phone number and do not even fucking care about your phone number...
4. As about my fucking attitude... Was, is and will be to the topics like "Argonath is guilty for My girlfriend does not give me a fuck, respect me that I did not tell it to my fellows"...
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Look whos talking about immaturity...
1. If Argonath players will meet each other and f**k in some hotel, Argonath has f**king nothing to it... And this thread is mostly the same...
You gave info to some internet people and blame for that our servers... Are you f**king idiot? Then f**king shut down the whole internet...
2. Stupid people are everywhere around you cos stupidity is set by your own vision... So go to your fellows and tell them the secret of the year... You can blame the whole planet Earth for having stupids and idiots...
3. According to my infantile logic you are more logical for sure if told your phone number to some people and now blame in it Argonath... We have no your phone number and do not even f**king care about your phone number...
4. As about my f**king attitude... Was, is and will be to the topics like "Argonath is guilty for My girlfriend does not give me a f**k, respect me that I did not tell it to my fellows"...
aragorn goes mad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c57qoPaPho#)
:lol:
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haha... :lol:
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aragorn goes mad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c57qoPaPho#)
:lol:
:rofl:
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aragorn goes mad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c57qoPaPho#)
:lol:
Hahaha, good one. xD
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This barely has anything to do with SA:MP, topic moved
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Then f**king shut down the whole internet...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-can-shut-down-internet-for-4-months-under-new-emergency-powers.html (http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama-can-shut-down-internet-for-4-months-under-new-emergency-powers.html)
You gave info to some internet people and blame for that our servers...
I'm not one to generalize. Please re-read the original post and point out where I individually blamed Argonath RPG as a whole. I blamed a minuscule part of Argonath RPG as a community.
What you're thinking (correct me if I'm wrong) is that I said "FKING ARGO FKING LEAKED MY FKING NUMBER." Maybe that's a mistake on my part for wording it wrong. But let's think of it this way.
I don't know much about Russia, so maybe what we're "pretending" might be actual fact.
Let's pretend Russia is a chill place, with a handful of murderers. Would one say "Russia killed my family!" or "Those Russians,<Murderers' names>, killed my family!" The second one, of course. And that's precisely what I meant. The nicknamed individuals in my thread are the blame. One has been granted reprieve.
2. Stupid people are everywhere around you cos stupidity is set by your own vision...
Wise words.
You can blame the whole planet Earth for having stupids and idiots...
Actually, I'd rather much blame the core cause of the person's stupidity/idiocy... say, mental retardation (genetic), uneducated, smack-over-the-head, etc.
3. According to my infantile logic you are more logical for sure if told your phone number to some people and now blame in it Argonath... We have no your phone number and do not even f**king care about your phone number...
*Gives phone number*
"ARGONATH DID IT, ARGONATH POSTED MY NUMBER ON 4CHAN POSING AS A 16 YEAR OLD HOTTIE!!!"
Correction:
"<name> TOOK IT UPON HIMSELF TO INTENTIONALLY PUT MY INFORMATION ON THE HOME OF EVERY SINGLE NEGATIVE ADJECTIVE DESCRIBABLE."
Look mate, I'm not blaming Argonath. Aragorn... you, Gandalf, and everybody else around you, are not at fault. Person 1 made a boo-boo, and Person 2 took advantage of that boo-boo and took it upon himself to abuse it.
This is not the first time personal information such as a phone number has been spread within Argonath's players. TBH, I don't see why you have a problem with my case while you don't seem to care about all the other cases. You're probably going to ask who and what and everything, but if you must know, take it to my PM. The names will not be disclosed publicly.
4. As about my f**king attitude... Was, is and will be to the topics like "Argonath is guilty for My girlfriend does not give me a f**k, respect me that I did not tell it to my fellows"...
Assuming that should be me in that example, here's what I would have said.
"I'm guilty for willingly playing Argonath, despite not being obligated to; this decision has caused my girlfriend not to bang me."
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Retard is a relative view, according to the Social Argument. Then again, we live in a world of the Medical Approach, in which you are either sick or healthy.
Social View suggests that disabilities are what society makes them, not by a fault of that person.
For example, if a person with good hearing walked into a room full of only deaf people, who would be disabled? Not the deaf people, that's for sure.
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The troll got trolled? About fucking time.
Why would you post your number anywhere on the internet if you didn't expect something like this to happen? It's just stupid. And you get angry when it happens and then start blaming people for it? You only have yourself to blame for trusting people you don't know. Idiot.
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The troll got trolled? About f**king time.
Why would you post your number anywhere on the internet if you didn't expect something like this to happen? It's just stupid. And you get angry when it happens and then start blaming people for it? You only have yourself to blame for trusting people you don't know. Idiot.
I dont think he is trying to blame people, more warn them not to make the same mistake as him. No sense calling him an idiot after the fact. especially since you don't really know this person. People make mistakes and he has learned from it. What your basically saying is. I could give you my phone number, then you went and gave it to a bunch of random people, it would not be your fault because i gave it to you? I'm sorry buddy but thats not how the law works. And dont even tell me you never trusted someone you met online.
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Yeah, I had mine situations with privacy on internet too. Better not to give any serious information and nowadays with expection on Argo MSN Iam adding just people who I know in person or met them.
Anyways, wouldn't blame it on Argonath. That guy did it, not Argonath. Argonath is part of internet aswell, so almost same rules apply for these situations. Yeah, you trusted, you got bad experience now. It doesnt have to be like that all the time, but it happens. Pretty good idea that you wrote to aware some, that are not. But don't it's fault of Argonath, because one of the players here did it. That's rather unlogical. It's bad that he spreaded the information of course. Good luck.
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I expected more maturity from a server owner. I was impressed by Gandalf's post, but your post is taking the piss.
We are not safe in "The World of its Own", there can be no argument about it. There is always a few people who will do things like this. A community is made through the people it, and the minority can affect it, as in this case.
Leon made a mistake, and tried to help other people by posting on this forum. He knows he was wrong, and he suffered for it. There is no need for you to be so critical and defensive.
I totally agree with Brad, I know it sucks but Argonath would be under scrutiny if anything happened involving members of the community.
He didn't share it publicly, if I read it right. Someone else made it public, he only phoned them.
This is a world of its own, emphasis on World of its own.
FYI: You're the one taking the piss.
You cannot say the Owners, Managers do not look to protect against cyber bullying / protecting data, such as e-mails, *sarcasm* I'm sure Gandalf has found a # of buyers for my e-mail address.
Metal decided to give his phone number out, he should face the consequences alone and should not say Argonath is terrible because he made a mistake. BESIDES, how hard is it to change your number?.
You have to love both Aragorn and Gandalf, as well as Legolas, and Sauron if you're going to stick around, they're 1 team, The Owners, not "Owner a, owner b, owner c...", you have no right to pick and choose :), Aragorn would treat you probably the same in real life, even if it's a world of its own, you're in the real world, and he's much more mature then anyone else around here.
It's common sense not to give any personal data out unless you know these people for real, even then it can be risky.
Metal, from what I've seen in many months you do not give a damn about Argonath community, just yourself - this thread is fine example , so why should anyone care about you?? :neutral: Don't start blaming The Owners and there property for your lack of thinking, they let you come here to have fun, they did not tell you to provide personal data, so why do you think anyone else should get it?
Maybe you should apologize and realize your mistakes.
I dont think he is trying to blame people, more warn them not to make the same mistake as him. No sense calling him an idiot after the fact. especially since you don't really know this person. People make mistakes and he has learned from it. What your basically saying is. I could give you my phone number, then you went and gave it to a bunch of random people, it would not be your fault because i gave it to you? I'm sorry buddy but thats not how the law works. And dont even tell me you never trusted someone you met online.
If he wants to warn the others he should stop thinking of himself, and should drop his blame on the owners, and Argonath organization. I really don't believe "he" cares, my evidence is countless amounts of times he's upset people.
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I dont think he is trying to blame people, more warn them not to make the same mistake as him. No sense calling him an idiot after the fact. especially since you don't really know this person. People make mistakes and he has learned from it. What your basically saying is. I could give you my phone number, then you went and gave it to a bunch of random people, it would not be your fault because i gave it to you? I'm sorry buddy but thats not how the law works. And dont even tell me you never trusted someone you met online.
Difference is, I accept consequences of my actions and any trust I may place on people. He's trying to make a big deal out of it for no reason. Hurr.
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You only have yourself to blame for trusting people you don't know. Idiot.
Excuse me, but I have a problem with this shit.
Just because a person has not met the person in real life (in person) does not mean that they do not know them. I know some people in Araatus far better than I know a lot of people I've met in person.
Stop being so narrow minded,
Idiot.
Hopefully this incident will be a lesson to all young people who carelessly give away there details, even giving your name can be too much, in the world of google.
He didn't "carelessly" give away anything. I'm starting to think you didn't even read the post.
Go ahead and do it now, just so you can look at your post and see how silly it is.
Don't start blaming The Owners and there property for your lack of thinking,
He didn't even blame the owners.
If he wants to warn the others he should stop thinking of himself, and should drop his blame on the owners, and Argonath organization.
Again, he didn't blame Argonath or the owners.
Stop trying to score points, Curse. It's insultingly obvious and just makes you look a fool.
Hurr.
Quite.
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Although I do not have the time to read over all of these pages, after skim reading over the first post I can see Leon had given out personal information in a restricted part of the forums for emergencies and someone leaked out the number, maybe accidentally or not, but I do not see how Leon posting his number on the forum lead to it leaking out, as he said the guy read the number out on Teamspeak.
But anyway he has a point, personal information such as place of schooling, place or residence or even suburb where you live should rather not be given out over an online game for safety sakes, especially not a phone number. Some people may think its funny to go and post another persons number up on random sites like 4chan, but honestly think before you do things like that, the repercussions can be dangerous.
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And so, The discussion thread of 2011 had begun...
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He gave it to one person, which is not being careless. The person who read it out was careless.
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Panda, I'm not saying that he may not "know" the person, but I meant to say that he should give out his trust very rarely and make sure he is fully aware of the implications of giving out phone numbers and other personal details on the internet. If he didn't want this to happen, he wouldn't have put it out there at all, to anyone.
There are people on Argonath who I feel like I know better than some of my closest friends and I trust them tons, the main one being Uberpwner, so sorry that you misinterpreted what I said but I definitely didn't mean it like that.
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Heads up
Think before you act (includes giving a phone number for emergency matters)
Always know the ups and downs for it. Know that everything may not go out well as planned, like this situation. If they still keep on texting you, I suggest you change your phone number as soon as possible.
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The troll got trolled? About f**king time.
The "troll" period in my Argonath time was brief when compared to the rest of it. I've dropped such habits with the start of the new year, mainly after a talk with Frank Hawk, and realizing how it's affecting my ability to communicate, have leadership skills, and most of all, gain respect. In case you weren't around during this period, I put the words "Retired troll" in my personal text, mainly to publicize the change in my etiquette. Of course, I will fight fire with fire if need be. If you wish to bring up the recent past, then that is fine by me, but you will not be deserving of any sort of acknowledgement from me if you do so.
He's trying to make a big deal out of it for no reason. Hurr.
In case you cannot read or were not obliged to read for some reason, GiacJr, I believe I have made it clear that my incident is not that big of a deal, but it potentially can become that big of a deal, which is why I let the public know.
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Using his own experiences to warn others is the decent thing to do. Shows he does not want others to suffer the same consequences as him. Giac you cant seem to understand that this is a warning rather then a cry for attention. As an ex-admin i would hope you would understand the need to protect the community members from such things.
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If he didn't want this to happen, he wouldn't have put it out there at all, to anyone.
That's like saying that if you didn't really want to get mugged, then you wouldn't have gone outside.
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That's like saying that if you didn't really want to get mugged, then you wouldn't have gone outside.
"If you didn't want to get bullied in school you shouldn't have even gone to school in the first place you moron."
"If you didn't want to get beaten up, you shouldn't have been such an ugly fucker to make others want to beat you up."
"If you didn't want your mother to die you should've researched on how to cure cancer."
I can totally imagine GiacJr saying things like that in real life.
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I know some people in Araatus far better than I know a lot of people I've met in person.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hdDfz3pI2EQ/TFc7Aes5VpI/AAAAAAAAAcY/Uct6zSR0zbg/s1600/willy-wonka-wilder.jpg)
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(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hdDfz3pI2EQ/TFc7Aes5VpI/AAAAAAAAAcY/Uct6zSR0zbg/s1600/willy-wonka-wilder.jpg)
explain
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explain
he thinks you're an antisocial twat
or he's just feeling happy so he's smiling
either one of the two, really
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Why not tell us who leaked the number so that something can be done about it? Otherwise there's no use in this topic, it's far too long and ambiguous to stop this being repeated. Ultimately, Leon made a mistake in trusting somebody and that's a pretty hard thing to learn, you either know a person well or you don't.
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Why not tell us who leaked the number so that something can be done about it?
Mr. Infamous Lying Sack of Cigarettes who thinks he's black down here did it.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hdDfz3pI2EQ/TFc7Aes5VpI/AAAAAAAAAcY/Uct6zSR0zbg/s1600/willy-wonka-wilder.jpg)
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Mr. Infamous Lying Sack of Cigarettes who thinks he's black down here did it.
whodat
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Guys call me at 911...I'm waiting for you :3
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whodat
Kirby. Lucky for him, threads on 4chan are deleted in as little as 30 minutes, and the owner of the website does not give a shit what happens.
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nigga be triipin, gtfo man.
also, i think the last time someone was cyberbullied through argonath, they were banned. this would be a great case of cyber bullying in my eyes.
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nigga be triipin, gtfo man.
also, i think the last time someone was cyberbullied through argonath, they were banned. this would be a great case of cyber bullying in my eyes.
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Not without evidence.
1. Teamspeak is not logged in regard to when someone speaks or uses text chat.
2. Threads on 4chan are deleted ridiculously fast.
3. The owner of 4chan doesn't give two shits.
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Curse, your post would actually have been quite written, had you not been ignorant.
You cannot say the Owners, Managers do not look to protect against cyber bullying / protecting data, such as e-mails
They do. I've witness a handful of incidents myself, and I've seen Owners/Managers, particularly Gandalf, acting very strictly against this matter. I've never said they did not.
Metal decided to give his phone number out, he should face the consequences alone and should not say Argonath is terrible because he made a mistake. BESIDES, how hard is it to change your number?.
Point out where I said Argonath is terrible. I will tell you and you'd better listen clearly - Argonath is not terrible.
It's not hard to change your number. It's hard to get all of your friends, contacts, and everything else to know your new number, so they don't call the old one.
It's common sense not to give any personal data out unless you know these people for real, even then it can be risky.
Obviously, but for some reason, I neglected my common sense and did it anyway.
Metal, from what I've seen in many months you do not give a damn about Argonath community, just yourself - this thread is fine example , so why should anyone care about you?? :neutral: Don't start blaming The Owners and there property for your lack of thinking, they let you come here to have fun, they did not tell you to provide personal data, so why do you think anyone else should get it?
Funny that you mention that. (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showdonations;u=7785) First of all, what have YOU done to contribute to the Argonath community? And second of all, whose ass did you pull the accusations of me blaming the Owners and the Argonath community as a whole for one person's lack of dignity?
Curse, don't you ever press such fucking dumb ass accusations about me not giving a damn about Argonath, and only caring for myself. I am one of many selfless people in this community, and you had better not fucking prejudge me. You don't even fucking know me, Curse, considering your ignorance and blatant idiocy shown in your post, so why the fuck do you even give a shit? Get the fuck out with your stupid accusations. You can't read me, you don't have my mind, so don't be trying to correct my own feelings. I know my own fucking feelings, stop trying to pretend you know me.
Maybe you should apologize and realize your mistakes.
Who should I apologize to and what for?
OH SORRY MYSELF, SRY DAT I DECIDED TO LEAK MY OWN PHONE NUMBER
I know my mistake. I made my phone number restricted-public (meaning, seen by few - that status was recently removed). That's my only mistake. How about you come forth and apologize for stupidly prejudging me? Your shameless ignorance really fucking pisses me off.
If he wants to warn the others he should stop thinking of himself, and should drop his blame on the owners, and Argonath organization. I really don't believe "he" cares, my evidence is countless amounts of times he's upset people.
I repeat, you know nothing about me. I repeat, I never, EVER, blamed the owners and Argonath as a whole. And what is up with those quotes around "he"? Do you want proof or something?
By the way, your evidence is obviously complete and utter bullshit.
Your post is so full of crap, I'd almost call it a troll post. But knowing you, it isn't. Good job, Curse.
Difference is, I accept consequences of my actions and any trust I may place on people. He's trying to make a big deal out of it for no reason. Hurr.
The first difference you imply is not really different. We have a similarity ;).
To be honest, my situation is not that big of a deal as it may seem. The fact of the matter is that it can get to the point where it is a big deal.
Panda, MadBoi, SafetyMoose, and many others, I am gratefully proud of your amount of competence. You serve as a great follower to this famous quote...
(http://www.gifanatics.com/files/mofoyh4au3.gif)
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ok thanks all :)
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ok thanks all :)
I thought you had changed, please remove this garbage wash.
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ok thanks all :)
tru dat
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I thought you had changed, please remove this garbage wash.
It's not garbarge.
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It's not garbarge.
alright, remove your feces you placed on the forum.
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alright, remove your feces you placed on the forum.
You don't get it ;)
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You don't get it ;)
Neither do I. plx plx i want 2 no
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Neither do I. plx plx i want 2 no
lemme esplain
dis nigga luigi be like oh yh cal me if u ned me 4 sumtin gvardia ok, nigga?
and dis otter fool b lik o i here his number i member it and post it on 4chan cuz den dis nigga will get funny texts nd cals n shit but now i shud b bannd ok
u understand??
That was hard to type. :/
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Look whos talking about immaturity...
1. If Argonath players will meet each other and f**k in some hotel, Argonath has f**king nothing to it... And this thread is mostly the same...
You gave info to some internet people and blame for that our servers... Are you f**king idiot? Then f**king shut down the whole internet...
2. Stupid people are everywhere around you cos stupidity is set by your own vision... So go to your fellows and tell them the secret of the year... You can blame the whole planet Earth for having stupids and idiots...
3. According to my infantile logic you are more logical for sure if told your phone number to some people and now blame in it Argonath... We have no your phone number and do not even f**king care about your phone number...
4. As about my f**king attitude... Was, is and will be to the topics like "Argonath is guilty for My girlfriend does not give me a f**k, respect me that I did not tell it to my fellows"...
lrn2f**king use 1 period @ the end of ur sentences...
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To be honest, the situation sucks, but Aragorn has a right to be just as angry as Leon does. Aragorn has spent time and money on the server, and to have someone post this (referring 'this' as the topic name), it could easily be miss interpreted and of course, how rumors spread, say that argonath is not safe in security, when really, it was not the server, or the owners of it's faults. Of course, Leon understands this and had 0% intention to defame the server.
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To be honest, the situation sucks, but Aragorn has a right to be just as angry as Leon does. Aragorn has spent time and money on the server, and to have someone post this (referring 'this' as the topic name), it could easily be miss interpreted and of course, how rumors spread, say that argonath is not safe in security, when really, it was not the server, or the owners of it's faults. Of course, Leon understands this and had 0% intention to defame the server.
Absolutely, I second this comment. As said, it could easily be mistaken as something which is insulting the server, even though Leon does not mean it that way :neutral:
to the tl;dr people: +1