Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:VC => VC:MP General => VC:MP - Vice City Multiplayer => VC:MP Ideas => Topic started by: Marcell on January 20, 2011, 05:39:50 pm
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Hi guys, here's an idea that we really f*cking need. When admins are off, it's like fuckload of noobs and DMers haul to VC:MP Argo. Calling an admin isnt a solution most of times.
So here is my idea, a 'Full Membership' :
We all know applying as an admin is a joke, will take at least years to become a one...so here is how I would like it to be solved:
After 1 week or 2 weeks of playing (not sure) you can apply as an 'Full Member'. All people with Full Membership and admins will vote if you should get a full membership or not, and if you do...
Here is where the fun comes. Full member is like seriously lite version of admin, he can kick and warn players that aren't full members. So let's say when 3 full members that played for long time are on and 10 DM cops come who just started playing are DMing, the full member can kick them (but warn them first of course) because they aren't full members.
So there we go. It's not a bad idea IMO; no kicking for the 'lolz' (cause there is the voting part + u cant kick full members) and yet there's no total noob chaos when admins are off. And they are off, most of times.
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Calling an admin isnt a solution most of times.
Why?
We all know applying as an admin is a joke, will take at least years to become a one..
Wrong
I personally don't like the idea
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You know that nothing can be 100%, nobody can be 100% active and observable...
We all know applying as an admin is a joke, will take at least years to become a one..
What?..
I understand, that these days more mutes come than regurals who ask things, so you can't show your skills...
Still, you can get it, just lower the fuck words.. in the server too (I mean I understand I'm edgy too sometimes lolz..)
Calling an admin isnt a solution most of times.
I am on msn, not always but just call me and I'm there...
So this is not really needed, don't get me wrong 2. I get it ur all pissed off, just call me
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The applying-as-admin-is-a-joke opinion is something I got from other's opinions, they told me it will take years to get an apply noticed at all.
I won't apply as an admin, I would like, but I know most of ppl think I will pull some strange s***, that I'm still a newbie and such. I personally know I can be clever when using admin 'resources' directly in game and I won't kick all the players for 'lolz' but other ppl don't seem to realise that (I think).
And 2Den, by calling an admin isnt a solution most of times I mean that very often they are no admins at all. When I roleplay with some of my mates like JB or Aldo, 30 noobs come to DM and spam EVEN AFTER WARNINGS. What am I suspossed to do then? Nothing, I can't do anything. But full membership would come in handy here, because I won't apply as an admin just to be able to kick those noobs (because we all know my apply is gonna be rejected in 0 seconds)
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bad idea, what if someone plays for sometime, and hes secretly a jackass, he can just kick nonfullmembers...
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Useless idea.
Becoming admin took me 2-3 months after I started, was admin for 1.5 years, quit the job, now it's harder to get back in because of the changed attitude of mineStill, you can get it, just lower the f**k words.. in the server too (I mean I understand I'm edgy too sometimes lolz..)
(I'm even more edgy now, and probably have always been), but am just wondering who the fuck told you it takes year or two to become an admin?
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lol
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1st I disagree.
2nd You apply for moderator not admin! ( Moderators can KICK AND WARN )
3rd It doesn't take years to get admin position... ( it did for me, but i iz special :redface: )
4th Rly useless because of the Moderator position, which essencially can do all you said a "full member" would do.
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Is it possible something like
/c vote <id> kick
/c vote <id> mute
Voting lasts for ex. 1 minute. Everyone except the rule breaker would have the right to vote. To kick/mute some1, more than half of all players online are needed. For example, if there are 10 ppl on the server, you need 6 votes to make this happen.
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Is it possible something like
/c vote <id> kick
/c vote <id> mute
Voting lasts for ex. 1 minute. Everyone except the rule breaker would have the right to vote. To kick/mute some1, more than half of all players online are needed. For example, if there are 10 ppl on the server, you need 6 votes to make this happen.
Yeah, a vote kick would be better but I'm not sure if it would possible to make it.
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Its possible but marcell think if some anti-argonath-tanks come in server and start /c vote kicking regulars...
Still I understand whats going in ur mind...
Still dont stop thinking unique and good ideas :)
Getting good response from new comers like you...
Thats all we need
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Its possible but marcell think if some anti-argonath-tanks come in server and start /c vote kicking regulars...
Still I understand whats going in ur mind...
So this would work only on guys that were reported before voting. Seems fair to me, in many multiplayers votings are included and there's no problems with it.
No admins online.
Warning some1. Warnings: 2/3, Reason: Killing Innocent Citizens
>>some1 killed justinbieber-baby (Shotgun)(Body)
/c vote some1 kick
This player has not been reported for any of the rule-breaking
/c report some1 deathmatching
Report send to admins, be patient and wait for response.
/c vote some1 kick
[EAF]Avenger has started the kick-vote against: some1, Votes: 1/6
... after a minute ...
Voting is finished. Votes: 5/6
*** some1 left the server. (Kicked)
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Hell yeah Avenger, that is exactly how me and most ppl would like to see it.
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A full member is basically a mini-moderator, lol
I agree on the votekick but it has multiple cons, such as people or even whole groups abusing it in certain players because they killed one of then or ''omg he ram my car so all vote to kik pls.''
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We All Know Now Of Days We Don't Get Alone Too Kindly As We Used To,so this idea of "Vote Kick" would be annoying.For an Example (Just a Example) A member From EAF had a wanted level of 50 and he or she was just owning Police Officers.They would all get annoyed and want to kick this fellow.And that would of provoked him a lot,It get carried way too far with both parties and we loose some regulars.
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Like told; useless idea, I think we have enough admins to take care of server, if not, requlars can always use vcmp@argonathrpg.com and report him.. Or use MSN to do it.
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Like told; useless idea, I think we have enough admins to take care of server, if not, requlars can always use vcmp@argonathrpg.com and report him.. Or use MSN to do it.
USIRDONTKNOWSHITOKAY
How complicated is that to understand, when I send an email I will need to wait for admin anyway? Very often cause of my time zone I see no admins online, and no I don't think they are enuff admins, I only see admins on hours like 18-24 (+1 GMT) and yes I do know they are busy with their lifes and all, but I don't give a ****, vote kick would be good for situations when they are no admins.
If you didn't try to play in hours like 14-17 then u sir have no idea what's going on by then, it's like massive haul of DMers as I said. And they are trolling, they do know english, they just laugh at you when you get killed and respawn as cops even after kick.
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If votekick was useless, then it would not be implemented in so many multiplayers. Simple as that
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I don't have good memories of votes to kick somebody. Once, I was playing this game "Sniper Elite", I killed a guy, than he started a votekick and kicked me. D:
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I don't have good memories of votes to kick somebody. Once, I was playing this game "Sniper Elite", I killed a guy, than he started a votekick and kicked me. D:
You're not the newcomer to Vice City, nobody would votekick WS member just for fun or whatever
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Just pausing to think for a second - let's just compare Argonath to the other servers on VC:MP. I've visited a serious amount of them over the years, and I think we will have to agree that Argonath's A-Team is by far the most effective.
For instance, if someone asked me the question; "where can I find a hacker on VC:MP", I'd easily be able to direct them to a server (not that I would :trust:) that 9.9/10 times will have some hacker enjoying himself.
When I am not doing tests etc. in real life, I am on quite a lot (even at odd times like 4 am). Marcell, if you have a direct problem to address then feel free to PM me on this forum. I'm usually on a fair bit here, so hopefully I can respond if no one else can (no gurantee I will always be there, but I don't mind).
If a whole server full of regulars can get abused by a few rulebreakers, then voting systems probably would as well.
As for Admin/Mod recruitment - thing is, the majority of the players post there pretty much immediately after they find the forums and that topic. And recruitment isn't necessarily based on how long ago you applied for the role etc.
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I agree only with some parts of this idea.
I know calling an admin from MSN or sending screenies on an email is not very practical.
Something like an instant solution is needed on the server.
Also a lots of players act stupid when no admins are online.
But as soon as admin comes, they would start acting like a decent player.
That is very clearly evidnt from the server chat logs.
But here's the problem,
many players can not judge situations very well.
Those who can are promoted to mod asap.
Example, Admins get a lots of reports accusing a person for HP hax.
Most of those reports are false.
We cant expect players to verify HP hax very effectively.
Same goes with speed hack, tele hack, weapon hack.
Not all regulars have good information of VCMP de-sync and bug issues.
Also...as we have seen from various topics. Player's view of RP can vary.
So a kick for "DMing" might be biased. Players should not be given the right to judge a situation as RP or DM.
I agree that this idea will do good in 80% of the cases.
But we cant risk the rest 20%.. :)
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Yea, I agree on aXXo, and I kinda disagree with this, because those 20 % may be long and you can be fucked if you're hated by a good bunch of people, they'll screw you up, even when you're really RP'ing and they think you're DMing, they vote kick you as soon as possible, and rage after rage, the server won't get enough players, and those who play will get mad.
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Because most of the time there's someone online with moderator or admin rights, how about making this script working only when they're no players with them? It would change aXXo's 20% to something like 5-10%, which not sounds bad at all.
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Is the script able to recognize if there are admins/mods or not?
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Is the script able to recognize if there are admins/mods or not?
We have the command /c admins and it manages to check if any admins are online or not, so yes, its possible.
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We have the command /c admins and it manages to check if any admins are online or not, so yes, its possible.
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Screw this voting... I think, will be better if you give rights for most trustful members (like Kessu) to warn or kick someone.
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NoN ( LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL anyone stillz rememberz? ) had a similar rank called "Trusted Member" and it was pointless.
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omgomg ban, ads ads !
Yea, useless. :lol:
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Screw this voting... I think, will be better if you give rights for most trustful members (like Kessu) to warn or kick someone.
You've seen how I've been acting on the server, maybe it's not best to give me this status any time soon :D
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You can even add 100 trusted members, with moderator rights, and this script would be still valuable when there's none of them online.
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I vote for vote-kick, lol
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i like the idea. but some 'full members' can abuse this.
i think we should add a vote command. its better.