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Title: An Apology
Post by: SafetyMoose on January 23, 2011, 05:47:03 am
So ya, um this is not a topic to gain any sympathy from people, i just wanted to apologize to some of you. I was recently demoted to moderator as a lot of you already know because my attitude IG and on the forums has degraded over the last few months. Originally i was not going to make a topic like this because i didn't think it was necessary but, i think thats one of the flaws i need to overcome, i think that my was is the best way to do everything and i'm not open to other peoples ideas as much as i should be so, here it goes.


Cofiliano Gvardia

I was an ass hole to you, you supported me in Gvardia and i went and completely disrespected you, i have no excuse for it but i want to let you know that i'm sorry. I was not open to your ideas which although i dont agree with, i should not have reacted in the way i did.


Mike_Hawk

Ya same as above, i was an ass hole to you too, i honestly dont even remember why but i wanted to apologize anyways. its not good to be angry with other Canadians ;)


Aragorn

I said some things that were both un called for and miss interpreted, i want to apologies for being a complete dick to you and disrespecting all the hard work you put into this server


Gandalf

You selected me as an admin because you saw some potential in me and thought i would do a good job. I see know that i completely disregarded this trust between admin and owner and disrespected the trust and knowledge you have about everything i have done. your the smartest person i have met on this server and there was absolutely no reason to miss treat the trust we should have.


The List Goes On

Man i have been an ass hole to a lot of you,more of you then i could put down in this topic, but i want you all to know that im sorry and im trying to be a better person. I dont know what caused my sudden change of attitude but i want to go back to the way i was as a respected admin in this community. Remember to stay safe, follow the rules, and most of all, dont complain when i ban you :P.

But honestly, this is the best community on the internet, we cant let assholes like me ruin it for the rest of you.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dkD6Jj8kD3Q/TE3gQ_9hPKI/AAAAAAAAIjE/xNcHOk0XyzU/s320/happy_moose.jpg)


Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: SeanC on January 23, 2011, 06:06:17 am
Hi mr. low profiled *tuut*.  :razz:

Just kidding, hey Moose.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: SafetyMoose on January 23, 2011, 06:16:21 am
Hi mr. low profiled *tuut*.  :razz:

Just kidding, hey Moose.

your lucky i cant redname now :P
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Huskar on January 23, 2011, 06:23:03 am
your lucky i cant redname now :P


Dont promote him please !! see when he will get promote he go red name and ban ! :D JK :)


Its always nice to apologize to your friends , and start new page :) well huh i hope you wont make the same mistakes in 2011 :D
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: SafetyMoose on January 23, 2011, 06:26:53 am

Dont promote him please !! see when he will get promote he go red name and ban ! :D JK :)


Its always nice to apologize to your friends , and start new page :) well huh i hope you wont make the same mistakes in 2011 :D

Damn you were first on the list.... now ill feel guilty...

:P
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: SeanC on January 23, 2011, 06:28:04 am
your lucky i cant redname now :P
Haha, now you're more low profile'd! Just kidding man.  :lol:

You know I love you.  :cool:
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Kapil on January 23, 2011, 07:04:04 am
You don't need to be nice to people if they are Canadian, overall respect all, they respect you. :) Hope you overcome these flaws.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: SafetyMoose on January 23, 2011, 07:05:09 am
You don't need to be nice to people if they are Canadian, overall respect all, they respect you. :) Hope you overcome these flaws.

naw i just said that because he lives close to me. Just a Canadian to Canadian sort of thing.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Sago on January 23, 2011, 08:01:39 am
this is a video game
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: SafetyMoose on January 23, 2011, 08:02:55 am
this is a video game

Congratz kirby we have proven your not a retard XD
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: iMunna on January 23, 2011, 08:12:56 am
Good luck on your campaign towards reconstruction. ;)
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Murt on January 23, 2011, 10:45:58 am
Good to see that you are realizing your mistakes Moosy, hope we will see you back in your old self.

Maybe we can take a trip to Moosy mountain and dance as we did in the Gvardia times.

Cheers and regards.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Static' on January 23, 2011, 10:47:14 am
This can be done via PM. Please refrain from posting such topics.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Murt on January 23, 2011, 10:50:00 am
Maybe he wanted to go public about the matter.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Frank_Hawk on January 23, 2011, 11:16:27 am
Trial & error - good luck  :)
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Cofiliano on January 23, 2011, 11:36:34 am
Mario pointed out all. I'm always willing to give and accept apology, but you didn't disrespect me, I wouldn't even give a damn if that was the case, you insulted and humiliated  my people, my nation, my country, without any real knowlege about it/them, describing it like Afghanistan in 10. Century or something,and now you called that "not open to ideas".
Adding on this, that I was always a friend to you, always helping you out when ever you asked or didn't ask for help, I'm not accepting your apology cause its not honest in my opinion, but I wish you all the best in future. 
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Oliver on January 23, 2011, 12:46:53 pm
Safety, you've always seemed like a genuine dick to me and quite a number of other people. I've witnessed you acting extremely rashly with no investigation into a situation, yet you expect everyone to treat you with the utmost respect and if they don't, you drop the banhammer.

It's not easy to apologise for the kind of bomb you dropped where you seemed to share your genuine opinions on Serbia and Russia (and a multitude of other countries you referred to indirectly). It didn't really seem as trolling to me, more like a 'MY DICK IS BIGGER THAN YOURS'. A simple 'sry' won't cover for instant gems such as

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Oh wait... voting i forgot thats something f**ked up commie countries like Serbia dont understand right?

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Go back to riding your horse back and forth between some hell hole of a gypsy town you live in, and the Russian owned coal mine you work in.

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I Kick serbian kids ass everyday at school

Why don't you do a little research on slavic culture? You'll find that their nations have been (and still are) one of the greatest in the world and what you spouted out is simply the typical uneducated bullshit you'd expect from a redneck in the middle of nowhere with only Fox News to keep him company.

And remember, there's a difference between friendly fucking around (I don't get offended if someone says 'LOL ESTONIA POOR COUNTRY U RIED TO SCHGOOL ON DONKEYS LOLOLOL' but I would get offended if someone came up with a constructive post that took hours to write describing in single detail why my country and people suck, especially if it's based on absolutely nothing), picking on the people who opressed you for a humongous amount of time (for example the polish despising russians and cracking a few jokes at their expense) and plain racism.

 I've made a number of racist jokes over the past few years but I haven't meant any of them, I respect all cultures but won't refrain from getting a few laughs from stereotypical jokes such as jews loving money et cetera yet I'd never, for example, make a jew joke around someone jewish unless I was good friends with them. Calling the Balkans the 'asshole of europe', on the other hand, isn't really funny, is it?
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: SafetyMoose on January 23, 2011, 03:44:00 pm
Mario pointed out all. I'm always willing to give and accept apology, but you didn't disrespect me, I wouldn't even give a damn if that was the case, you insulted and humiliated  my people, my nation, my country, without any real knowlege about it/them, describing it like Afghanistan in 10. Century or something,and now you called that "not open to ideas".
Adding on this, that I was always a friend to you, always helping you out when ever you asked or didn't ask for help, I'm not accepting your apology cause its not honest in my opinion, but I wish you all the best in future.

Safety, you've always seemed like a genuine dick to me and quite a number of other people. I've witnessed you acting extremely rashly with no investigation into a situation, yet you expect everyone to treat you with the utmost respect and if they don't, you drop the banhammer.

It's not easy to apologise for the kind of bomb you dropped where you seemed to share your genuine opinions on Serbia and Russia (and a multitude of other countries you referred to indirectly). It didn't really seem as trolling to me, more like a 'MY DICK IS BIGGER THAN YOURS'. A simple 'sry' won't cover for instant gems such as

Why don't you do a little research on slavic culture? You'll find that their nations have been (and still are) one of the greatest in the world and what you spouted out is simply the typical uneducated bullshit you'd expect from a redneck in the middle of nowhere with only Fox News to keep him company.

And remember, there's a difference between friendly f**king around (I don't get offended if someone says 'LOL ESTONIA POOR COUNTRY U RIED TO SCHGOOL ON DONKEYS LOLOLOL' but I would get offended if someone came up with a constructive post that took hours to write describing in single detail why my country and people suck, especially if it's based on absolutely nothing), picking on the people who opressed you for a humongous amount of time (for example the polish despising russians and cracking a few jokes at their expense) and plain racism.

 I've made a number of racist jokes over the past few years but I haven't meant any of them, I respect all cultures but won't refrain from getting a few laughs from stereotypical jokes such as jews loving money et cetera yet I'd never, for example, make a jew joke around someone jewish unless I was good friends with them. Calling the Balkans the 'asshole of europe', on the other hand, isn't really funny, is it?

Both of these are incredibly fair responses and i didnt expect anything more or anything less. Atleast you too kthe time to acknowledge the apology.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Leon. on January 24, 2011, 02:19:40 am
First thing that came to my mind when I saw the moose image
(http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/ladleasganks0.jpg)
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: SafetyMoose on January 24, 2011, 02:23:58 am
First thing that came to my mind when I saw the moose image
(http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/ladleasganks0.jpg)

Pics broken D:
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: SafetyMoose on January 25, 2011, 01:51:09 pm
Your right its the internet, does not mean i cant have the decency to apologizes for my actions.


oh and btw, if the internet was not made to be serious, why are you obviously having a  bird over the situation?
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Aksel on January 25, 2011, 08:27:37 pm
Posting drama topics don't fix ignorance

Try to fix your mistakes before posting a topic like this.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on January 25, 2011, 09:22:50 pm
Mario pointed out all. I'm always willing to give and accept apology, but you didn't disrespect me, I wouldn't even give a damn if that was the case, you insulted and humiliated  my people, my nation, my country, without any real knowlege about it/them, describing it like Afghanistan in 10. Century or something,and now you called that "not open to ideas".
Adding on this, that I was always a friend to you, always helping you out when ever you asked or didn't ask for help, I'm not accepting your apology cause its not honest in my opinion, but I wish you all the best in future. 

Hypocrisy, you are against insulting of a persons nation, country, people, yet you easily insult the people of Afghanistan.

You know nothing about the 10th century Afghanistan.


You have no choice but to accept his apology, it's not your decision. Either accept or leave community (or just be a hater), if all the leaders and owners can accept it, why should you be different? You cannot say "MY people" stuff (look at what I just said above). 

There are endless things someone can say about you and your country, you're lucky he stopped and tried to apologize.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Pandalink on January 25, 2011, 09:28:46 pm
You have no choice but to accept his apology, it's not your decision.
What kind of retarded logic is that?
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: SafetyMoose on January 25, 2011, 09:58:00 pm
Lol i make an apology public as it see it as the first step to redemption, and people turn it into a god damn argument.

Welcome to Argonath  :rofl:
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: EminemRulez on January 25, 2011, 11:59:18 pm
Just laughing about the fact i probably should have expected this to happen XD
Chu' should know that people will always shit at other people - you made the apology, it's up to them to accept or deny it
Replying to haters will lead you nowhere

Cheers Moosah :)
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Abdul_Ghani on January 28, 2011, 11:40:47 am
This can be done via PM. Please refrain from posting such topics.
Dude, like he said , its just to overcome his flaw
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: JDC on January 28, 2011, 01:41:33 pm
Anybody can write a convincing apology.

The best apology you can offer the community, Safetymoose, is to show everyone that you have changed sincerely. It will convey your point better than any written speech.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Nathan on January 28, 2011, 02:39:16 pm
I wasn't aware of the situation but it seems like the demotions make a few administrators go crazy, not talking about you Moose.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Altair_Carter on January 28, 2011, 05:43:05 pm
Hypocrisy, you are against insulting of a persons nation, country, people, yet you easily insult the people of Afghanistan.

You know nothing about the 10th century Afghanistan.


You have no choice but to accept his apology, it's not your decision. Either accept or leave community (or just be a hater), if all the leaders and owners can accept it, why should you be different? You cannot say "MY people" stuff (look at what I just said above). 

There are endless things someone can say about you and your country, you're lucky he stopped and tried to apologize.

What the fuck?

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You have no choice but to accept his apology, it's not your decision. Either accept or leave community (or just be a hater), if all the leaders and owners can accept it, why should you be different? You cannot say "MY people" stuff (look at what I just said above). 

WHAT THE FUCK?
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Kitsune on January 28, 2011, 06:53:44 pm
You have no choice but to accept his apology, it's not your decision.
What the hell kind of retarded logic is that?
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Devin on January 28, 2011, 07:09:01 pm
You have no choice but to accept his apology, it's not your decision. Either accept or leave community (or just be a hater),

Honestly who do you think you are to tell another member he has to accept the guys appology or leave the community?
The way he was insulted by what was said he has all right to not accept a simple written apology, no matter how looks, it was blaitantly disrespectfull, degrading and completely un-needed harassment, theres no excuse for that form of disrespect at all!

And seriously " you have no choice but to accept his apology " where have you found your logic? or where has it gone to.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Cofiliano on January 28, 2011, 07:16:44 pm
Hypocrisy, you are against insulting of a persons nation, country, people, yet you easily insult the people of Afghanistan.

You know nothing about the 10th century Afghanistan.
I do.
Its not insulting if I imply that they ride horses in the 10th century.

You have no choice but to accept his apology, it's not your decision. Either accept or leave community (or just be a hater), if all the leaders and owners can accept it, why should you be different? You cannot say "MY people" stuff (look at what I just said above). 

There are endless things someone can say about you and your country, you're lucky he stopped and tried to apologize.
Yes I do. I'm not the one who's hated. And if owners/leaders does something, doesn't mean anyone should do the same. Its a personal thing, opinion, and decision, which has nothing to do with Owners/leaders and such.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Violet on January 28, 2011, 07:55:27 pm
As I understand, all of us go through tough times and sometimes wish to state their remorse for their actions. That's perfectly acceptable, however recently I've noticed a lot of people are simply making apology topics if there has been some kind of misunderstanding ingame or on the forums. I believe that prevention of the misunderstandings in the first place is the best course of action to follow.

The players here are real people too, so they will have issues at home at one time or another - for the sake of your own enjoyment on the server, try not to mix up real life conflicts with ingame ones. Try and talk to somebody about your problems if you have to.

A lot of the players are teenagers and as a result will be affected by natural hormonal changes which are part of growing up, so please try and understand that being on the server or on the forums whilst angry will only really cause detriment to you, if you feel that you can't handle it, take a break for a few minutes and return. Gaming is supposed to be an addition to your life, not a replacement - try not to let the game affect you domestically.

Having said that, teenagers also like to be rebels and take recreational drugs as part of their lifestyle, as far as I know the Argonath HQ will not accept the apology you make if you come on the server drunk or stoned and rulebreak, several admins in the past have lost their rights for this. For this reason, I advise you all not to come online if you cannot handle a drink or two.

You are not obliged to apologise if you do not feel truly sorry for what you have done. I've seen a lot of topics made over the last two weeks where it is pretty distinguishable who is regretting their actions and who is looking for forgiveness, so that they can continue doing what they were saying sorry for in the first instance. If you really wish to atone, then I suggest that you show this via your actions and not by demanding for exculpation. There will be some people who do not believe what you are saying thus be ready for any criticism made in an apology topic, report any flaming instead of flaming back.

Whilst I think it takes a certain level of valour to make these topics, it makes completely no difference how many topics you make or how many times you say you are sorry if you do not stick to your words. Strive to make sure that the promises you make are not over-demanding or else you may find yourself in a bit of a pickle once people start realising you haven't lived up to your words.
To be honest, I think apology topics have more of a reason to be locked and/or deleted than goodbye topics. People posting them more or less always have the ulterior motive of trying to make people overlook the fact that they did something wrong and seek some attention. Perhaps there can be a 'Temporarily Apologising' topic added to go with the 'Temporary Leaving' topic in Speakerbox :lol:
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: SafetyMoose on January 28, 2011, 08:14:30 pm
To be honest, I think apology topics have more of a reason to be locked and/or deleted than goodbye topics. People posting them more or less always have the ulterior motive of trying to make people overlook the fact that they did something wrong and seek some attention. Perhaps there can be a 'Temporarily Apologising' topic added to go with the 'Temporary Leaving' topic in Speakerbox :lol:

I didnt post this because i expected everyone to forgive me, i did it because its the decent and adult thing to do. Its done publicly because again, i have nothing to say that others should not be able to see. I do not want people to overlook what i did because if they did then how would people learn? For those who say "Why apologies, its just a game", i do this because i understand that the community is made up of real people, and they deserve an apology. If i had really wanted people to forget about it i would not have posted anything.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Violet on January 28, 2011, 08:43:12 pm
I didnt post this because i expected everyone to forgive me, i did it because its the decent and adult thing to do. Its done publicly because again, i have nothing to say that others should not be able to see. I do not want people to overlook what i did because if they did then how would people learn? For those who say "Why apologies, its just a game", i do this because i understand that the community is made up of real people, and they deserve an apology. If i had really wanted people to forget about it i would not have posted anything.
If you wanted to say sorry you would have sent a PM to the people you mentioned in your first post. If you wanted to add publicity to this, you would have made a topic here with the names of those people in your first post.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: SafetyMoose on January 28, 2011, 08:59:21 pm
If you wanted to say sorry you would have sent a PM to the people you mentioned in your first post. If you wanted to add publicity to this, you would have made a topic here with the names of those people in your first post.

Exactly, im doing what an admin is supposed to do. Be a role model. By making a public apology im demonstrating how i should have acted, rather then what i did. As a moderator in the community im not just apologizing to these select people, but everyone for the disrespect i portrayed. If you are honestly suggesting for me to send a PM to hundreds of people, then the amount of free time you think i have is incredibly misjudged.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Kenny. on January 28, 2011, 09:43:18 pm
This is a video game less apologising more playing...
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: SafetyMoose on January 28, 2011, 09:53:36 pm
This is a video game less apologising more playing...

o.O last time i checked this was a forum. :P
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: EminemRulez on January 28, 2011, 10:55:41 pm
This is a video game
lol
After going back through your posts I've found this very hypocritical from you.
But yeap, true, it's just a game
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: HELLY BOY on January 28, 2011, 11:01:28 pm
So ya, um this is not a topic to gain any sympathy from people, i just wanted to apologize to some of you. I was recently demoted to moderator as a lot of you already know because my attitude IG and on the forums has degraded over the last few months. Originally i was not going to make a topic like this because i didn't think it was necessary but, i think thats one of the flaws i need to overcome, i think that my was is the best way to do everything and i'm not open to other peoples ideas as much as i should be so, here it goes.


Cofiliano Gvardia

I was an ass hole to you, you supported me in Gvardia and i went and completely disrespected you, i have no excuse for it but i want to let you know that i'm sorry. I was not open to your ideas which although i dont agree with, i should not have reacted in the way i did.


Mike_Hawk

Ya same as above, i was an ass hole to you too, i honestly dont even remember why but i wanted to apologize anyways. its not good to be angry with other Canadians ;)


Aragorn

I said some things that were both un called for and miss interpreted, i want to apologies for being a complete dick to you and disrespecting all the hard work you put into this server


Gandalf

You selected me as an admin because you saw some potential in me and thought i would do a good job. I see know that i completely disregarded this trust between admin and owner and disrespected the trust and knowledge you have about everything i have done. your the smartest person i have met on this server and there was absolutely no reason to miss treat the trust we should have.


The List Goes On

Man i have been an ass hole to a lot of you,more of you then i could put down in this topic, but i want you all to know that im sorry and im trying to be a better person. I dont know what caused my sudden change of attitude but i want to go back to the way i was as a respected admin in this community. Remember to stay safe, follow the rules, and most of all, dont complain when i ban you :P.

But honestly, this is the best community on the internet, we cant let assholes like me ruin it for the rest of you.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dkD6Jj8kD3Q/TE3gQ_9hPKI/AAAAAAAAIjE/xNcHOk0XyzU/s320/happy_moose.jpg)
Holy shit, what is this? A Justin Bieber drama topic. If yes, then let me start something you may forgotten.
Moose, you didn't make apologies to all the people you was supposed to. I was applying for all your factions, like NPS etc, but you left us like trash, without leader, just for group hopping sake. That happened 3-4 times, and you should feel sorry about that because you made many group hoppings in even official groups. I mean, example: You ]got in Ancelotti (I guess with no application) got Caporegim, which is a very high rank when you joined the first second, and then next day left. I don't see any point. The point of the story is, you abandoned all your groups, you abandoned all your loyal members, you abandoned US.

Nothing more to say.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Murt on January 28, 2011, 11:07:20 pm
Mistake is an human act, that's it. Moosy is wonderful person with potiental for this community.

So don't shit him.
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Kaylon_Trice on January 28, 2011, 11:29:22 pm
Cut the bull shit IF you had a life you would show it and not be apologist to these motherf**kers
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: Antonio. on January 28, 2011, 11:30:57 pm
You have no choice but to accept his apology, it's not your decision.
Uhm ok....?
Title: Re: An Apology
Post by: JDC on January 29, 2011, 11:36:38 am
An apology is like an open hand, everyone is free to take it or leave it. Why the fuck someone should try to force acceptance of an apology is beyond even me.
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