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Title: Original Grand Theft Auto 'almost canned"
Post by: Fabio on February 01, 2011, 06:23:49 pm
http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6297078.html (http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6297078.html)

or

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/107428-Publisher-Almost-Scrapped-the-First-GTA (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/107428-Publisher-Almost-Scrapped-the-First-GTA)



"Then-series developer DMA Design's Gary Penn says top-down title nearly shelved because it was "awful"; GTA: IV life-to-date sales sit at 17 million.

The Grand Theft Auto franchise is one of the most recognizable brands in the game industry, with the latest entry, Grand Theft Auto IV, scoring a top rating and selling 17 million copies since debuting in 2008. However, the series' first entry almost never got off the ground.

In an interview with industry site Gamasutra, Gary Penn of DMA Design (which later became Rockstar North) said the original series entry was nearly shelved not because of politics, but rather because the game was unstable and "awful."

The game that started it all.

"It never really felt like it was going anywhere. It was almost canned", Penn said. "The publisher, BMG Interactive, wanted to can it."

"There are probably two key things it fell down on. Two critical things. One of them is stability, which is a really boring one but it crashed all the f***ng time. So even if you did get something in the game, you couldn't really test it."

The other key feature of the title that wasn't operating as DMA Design had planned was the vehicle component to the game.

"Now the other thing that was a problem was the handling--the car handling was appalling. There was a point in it where you used to have a button for opening the doors and it was just rubbish," he said. "I can't remember if this is true because we used to joke about it that you even had to start the engine. It was awful, it was too sim-y."

Then, a revelation came in the way of a game error that made police behave erratically, which turned into exactly what the developer enjoyed most.

"Then one day, I think it was a bug, the police suddenly became mental and aggressive
Title: Re: Original Grand Theft Auto 'almost canned"
Post by: EliteTerm on February 01, 2011, 11:06:38 pm
I'm actually surprised by this. What would've been the result if Grand Theft Auto was never released? What would replace this franchise?
Title: Re: Original Grand Theft Auto 'almost canned"
Post by: TheGreasyChopper on February 01, 2011, 11:18:19 pm
I'm actually surprised by this. What would've been the result if Grand Theft Auto was never released? What would replace this franchise?

Either "The Godfather" or "Scarface:The world is yours"  :redface: Or some other name that will not exist if we do not change the past.
Title: Re: Original Grand Theft Auto 'almost canned"
Post by: Rusty on February 01, 2011, 11:47:38 pm
GTA was actually going to be named - GBH (sure you know what it means ..) but Americans didn't know what the fuck it meant so they changed it to GTA lol.

I'm glad GTA is still continuing it's the best freeroam game out there and Rockstar never fail all their games are top quality ofcourse except the table tennis game which was really a test for RAGE (Rockstar Advanced Gaming Engine).
Title: Re: Original Grand Theft Auto 'almost canned"
Post by: Caltson on February 02, 2011, 10:46:15 am
I think Atari's game 'Driver' would rule if GTA did not came along.
Title: Re: Original Grand Theft Auto 'almost canned"
Post by: Driggz on February 03, 2011, 11:13:51 pm
I think Atari's game 'Driver' would rule if GTA did not came along.

True but I'm pretty sure True Crime or Saints row would have replaced it.
Its insane how from an original game like GTA1, all this good stuff has been made.
Title: Re: Original Grand Theft Auto 'almost canned"
Post by: Caltson on February 04, 2011, 02:01:17 pm
True but I'm pretty sure True Crime or Saints row would have replaced it.
Its insane how from an original game like GTA1, all this good stuff has been made.

True crime crashes all the time, i don't think many people would play it even if GTA didn't exist. But if GTA never was made, i think True Crime was never made aswell. Same as Saint's Row.
Title: Re: Original Grand Theft Auto 'almost canned"
Post by: Matthew6434 on February 04, 2011, 03:46:23 pm
Yeah, True Crime and Saints Row were A GTA Copy. People saw the success from GTAIII and said 'i want in'
Title: Re: Original Grand Theft Auto 'almost canned"
Post by: Driggz on February 07, 2011, 06:46:18 am
Yea but you gotta admit saints row 2 is damn fun
Title: Re: Original Grand Theft Auto 'almost canned"
Post by: TheRock on February 08, 2011, 01:34:07 pm
If GTA would of never exist, (Ryan was first.. and he took my words!) Driver would of have owned all.

I still remember Driver1.. and Driver 2 on PS1... & Driver 3 on PS2 (on PC it kinda sucked as in handling.)! Epic games..!!
Title: Re: Original Grand Theft Auto 'almost canned"
Post by: Zaila on February 08, 2011, 02:25:06 pm
Saints Row 2 would never be a hit on PC, even if GTA never existed. Saints Row 2 has to many flaws and are to much of a ripoff from the console version when it comes to handling. Especially Car handlings are awful on Saints Row 2 on the PC version.
Title: Re: Original Grand Theft Auto 'almost canned"
Post by: Driggz on February 09, 2011, 04:31:44 am
If GTA would of never exist, (Ryan was first.. and he took my words!) Driver would of have owned all.

I still remember Driver1.. and Driver 2 on PS1... & Driver 3 on PS2 (on PC it kinda sucked as in handling.)! Epic games..!!

Driver parallel lines was the worst out of the series.
Title: Re: Original Grand Theft Auto 'almost canned"
Post by: Caltson on February 13, 2011, 09:51:29 pm
The True Crime series have been cancelled recently. No more of those games.
Kind of sad, True crime wasn't a really bad game, if only the graphics were better. And they had too much bugs. None of the True Crime games has been reall released without bugs. Shame.
Title: Re: Original Grand Theft Auto 'almost canned"
Post by: Fabio on February 14, 2011, 11:25:49 am
They were actually decent games, I enjoyed the first one a lot and the second one wasn't too bad.
Title: Re: Original Grand Theft Auto 'almost canned"
Post by: Caltson on February 14, 2011, 11:44:47 am
They were actually decent games, I enjoyed the first one a lot and the second one wasn't too bad.
Yeah, but they crashed alot tough.
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