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Title: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: TinMan on February 10, 2011, 09:22:50 am: Mulholland Intersection


Howdy, I'm officer TinMan and I been patrolling at Mulholland Intersection for a long time. It is where many civilians and officers drive up the wrong ramp crashing into civilians. There have been thousands of these accidents that happen and it's all because of people that get into a big hurry or impatient to go up the proper ramp.
(http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/Lmotoole/sa-mp-012.png)
   It is time to act serious about this situation and if you are an officer that does this all the time you will be most-likely be reported. Now if you have lights and sirens chasing a suspect or going somewhere urgent you can be excused. The civilians will be getting max fined tickets or 250 dollars for violating Section III Act III.I of the constitution. We need to step up forces there and give out max fines until the civilians stop driving up the incorrect ramp. But this is all up to the captains to decide if civilians get max fined tickets for it, and cops should get introuble for it.

Act of Constitution that Disallows it
Quote from: Louis Keyl on August 26, 2010, 06:46:23 pm
Section III: Criminal Law
Act III.I: Reckless driving understand any form of driving that could endanger other citizens. Under such circumstances, a police officer is allowed to take necessary actions.

Jimmy decides to take the wrong ramp that so he can get to work faster. He didn't see any cars coming, so he drives up the wrong ramp.
(http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/Lmotoole/sa-mp-014.png)
Jimmy now sees the car that is coming and can't avoid the collision.
(http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/Lmotoole/sa-mp-015.png)
He was sent to the hospital and was sued for hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars. He not only had to pay the damage to the other car, but he had to pay for the others person death by going to prison.
(http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/Lmotoole/sa-mp-018-1.png)
*Thanks to Shawn_Russell help but I could had waited 20 minutes later and somebody would already went up the wrong ramp*

Now you have seen the damaged and know how much it could cost. We need police force to STOP driving up the incorrect lane before we enforce the civilians. Remeber we need to set a good example for the citizens of Argonath RPG. You are a hipocrit if you drive up in the incorrect ramp, and then you pull people over for it. On a busy day, when there are atleast 100 people you can pull over people in 5 minutes each at a time.

I have one important request from the police department is to have officers start going up the correct ramp. If you see any officer that is violating tell them that they are violating Section III Act III.I of the constitution. For civilians I'm requesting to give max citations for violating this act. This is the only way we can stop this mess, so if we can step up our forces then we will have it resolved.

So, what do you think? Do you think that it is a good idea to watch or protect the citizens of Argonath of wrong ramp Violators, or shall I say Section III Act III.I violation of constitution? Should we give max fines to the civilians that violate this, and should cops be warned, suspended, or even fired for using the wrong ramp?
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: [ROS]Jack on February 11, 2011, 05:22:26 am: lol,

Thats my Favorite short cut.

I dont support this sorry :D
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: [NP]Monte Montague on February 11, 2011, 09:45:11 pm: This is a serious issue.

This issue has been here in Los Santos for years.
I a resident of Red County and worker in Los Santos beleive we should start a petition to the San Andreas Police Department.

They must ensure that basic laws are followed, we should not see this any further.

It's not just citizens who should receive maximum warning, officers who also break the law should be stripped of their rank / status and put in the docks.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: newguy on February 12, 2011, 08:37:28 am: I suggest we need to fix driving test system,so we were taught to use the correct ramp.

But for me,i just think you need to be more carefull.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Charles_Carter on February 12, 2011, 11:16:52 am: If you fine me max ticket for being on the ramps,i will evade even if i have the slowest car in the game..
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: TinMan on February 19, 2011, 05:45:29 am: Quote from: [ROS]Jack on February 11, 2011, 05:22:26 am
Thats my Favorite short cut.
Sometimes it could be a short cut but either your going to hit somebody or get pulled over and waiste more time.

Quote from: [NP]Monte Montague on February 11, 2011, 09:45:11 pm
This is a serious issue.

They must ensure that basic laws are followed, we should not see this any further.

It's not just citizens who should receive maximum warning, officers who also break the law should be stripped of their rank / status and put in the docks.

Thankyou, yes it is a serious issue. Whenever there is a big shoot-out then cops do have the right to use the wrong ramps with lights and sirens. They need to be careful though, and if officers use the wrong ramps without going anywhere then they should have their rank be demoted or warned.

Quote from: newguy on February 12, 2011, 08:37:28 am
I suggest we need to fix driving test system,so we were taught to use the correct ramp.

But for me,i just think you need to be more carefull.

Its not going to matter if you teach people or not. There still going to be ignorant until they get a ticket and possibly arrested. This right here is a public annoucement.

Quote from: Charles_Carter on February 12, 2011, 11:16:52 am
If you fine me max ticket for being on the ramps,i will evade even if i have the slowest car in the game..
And if you do, I will chase you down and hunt you down. We don't intentionally give max fine tickets all the time unless you become a big problem. Some days we might give max fines and some days we could be nice. As for right now though, once this motion gets passed it will most-likely be max fined.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: StatuZ on February 23, 2011, 03:03:12 am: Tinman, let me correct you there. If you're running lights and sirens or not, you can not endanger the safety of the public. By using the wrong ramp you risk a head on collision with a innocent bystander. You should always take the legal route.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Janar on February 23, 2011, 08:13:42 am: I like taking that wrong ramp also sometimes, but I always go offroad, to prevent collision.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: (tr)Ollie on February 23, 2011, 12:21:57 pm: I feel rebellious when I take the wrong road.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Matthew_Green on February 23, 2011, 01:38:05 pm: As a highway engineer, (and about to major in it in college in a few months) this is a big issue. There needs to be a police officer at that interchange stack at all times. Plus, add traffic lights and warning signs to the area.

Where's an one-way invisible barrier when you need it? When interstate traffic hits it on the off-ramp, no damage/injury. When a person comes up the off-ramp, driving on the wrong side, once they hit that invisible barrier, it would be like hitting a brickwall at 125 mi/h
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: TinMan on February 23, 2011, 04:34:29 pm: Quote from: StatuZ on February 23, 2011, 03:03:12 am
Tinman, let me correct you there. If you're running lights and sirens or not, you can not endanger the safety of the public. By using the wrong ramp you risk a head on collision with a innocent bystander. You should always take the legal route.

Let me correct you. If there was a major c30 or a code purple then I would say that it is okay to use the incorrect lane anyway. It will save a few seconds because an officer could be dead in three seconds, so the main thing is you have to look at the radar before going up it.

Quote from: Matthew_Green on February 23, 2011, 01:38:05 pm
As a highway engineer, (and about to major in it in college in a few months) this is a big issue. There needs to be a police officer at that interchange stack at all times. Plus, add traffic lights and warning signs to the area.

Where's an one-way invisible barrier when you need it? When interstate traffic hits it on the off-ramp, no damage/injury. When a person comes up the off-ramp, driving on the wrong side, once they hit that invisible barrier, it would be like hitting a brickwall at 125 mi/h

I don't quiet understand what you are saying.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Matthew_Green on February 23, 2011, 10:04:33 pm: Quote from: TinMan on February 23, 2011, 04:34:29 pm
Let me correct you. If there was a major c30 or a code purple then I would say that it is okay to use the incorrect lane anyway. It will save a few seconds because an officer could be dead in three seconds, so the main thing is you have to look at the radar before going up it.

I don't quiet understand what you are saying.

What I'm saying is that there needs to be auto-retractable poles that can block a car from going the wrong way. (In which is a ONEWAY WALL. You can go through one side of the wall, but you can't go through the other side. The side that won't allow traffic to go through is the "Wrong Way Traffic Blocker" or as I listed, the "Auto-retractable Poles" )

Another thing I'd like to adress is the sides of the Mullholland Interchange Stack. As you can see on the sides where there are houses, traffic has been lately cutting through the grass separating the freeway from the residences.
I'd like to propose a fence to block traffic from leaving the freeway and cutting through people's backyards and vice versa. Imagine, someone's kids could be playing in the backyard when all of the sudden, some reckless driver decides to cut through the backyards and nearly hitting or worse hit and/or killing one of the children.

This is a serious issue reguarding safety of the motorist and the nearby people living near the Interschange, and this needs to be resolved.

Moderator Comment SA:MP ideas for ideas
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: TinMan on February 24, 2011, 06:58:36 am: I do support the fence idea, but not the wall thing at the mulholland intersection. I'm tired of cars cutting across grass as well, and now I'm wondering if we could pull them over for that. The wall thing at the Muholland Intersection with the one way thing, will take out the roleplay of cops staging at the top and pulling people over for it. Max fine tickets should be reasonable unless if they hit or kill another person coming down which would be involuntary man slaughter. I'd say we should arrest the ones that crash into another vehicle for attempted murder because it is 100 percent their fault for driving up wrong lane. Civilians need to rethink and act together and ask themselves a few questions: "Is it worth the time and money to go up that ramp? Or Is it worth the risk of putting other peoples lives endangered?"

FAQ:
"Would the correct ramp be faster?"
On this question, I would like to stress the point that most civilians don't understand. They think that using incorrect ramp saves time. But I will tell you now that if you use that incorrect ramp, you'll be losing about 5 minutes and be late where ever you are going. It only takes 6-10 seconds to use the proper ramp, and only 3-5 on the incorrect. But you still have the chance of hitting somebody or getting pulled over by a cop.

"What will the punishment be?"
A max fine ticket or go to jail card if you crash into another person for some degree of attempted murder or murder. Depending on situation, you have a chance to be sue'd in court.

"Why a max ticket?"
We want to ensure everybody safety under the Argonath RPG to protect the citizens. The issue is already critical and multiple peoples abuse the wrong ramp, so if we issue max tickets then it could stop sooner or later.

If you have any questions, I will be glad to answer.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: valmiustila on March 02, 2011, 02:55:01 pm: Haha, so true. When i'm on copduty, i'll go behind bushes or someone nearby, when someone illegaly goes at wrong ramp, i'll pull 'em over.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Reece on March 03, 2011, 11:03:31 pm: This is a major problem, I have often been crashed into here.

This would be a great solution. Place it at the intersection so only people can leave through the intersection, then fools who still try to go through the wrong way can say good by to there tires.

(http://www.esi.info/Images/profilePics/Entry_Parking_Posts_Alligator_Teeth_direction_enforcement_4.jpg)

Back to the actual, feasible solutions.

This:
Quote from: TinMan on February 24, 2011, 06:58:36 am
I do support the fence idea, but not the wall thing at the mulholland intersection. Max fine tickets should be reasonable unless if they hit or kill another person coming down which would be involuntary man slaughter. I'd say we should arrest the ones that crash into another vehicle for attempted murder because it is 100 percent their fault for driving up wrong lane.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: duffman on March 03, 2011, 11:06:43 pm: Quote from: Reece. on March 03, 2011, 11:03:31 pm
This is a major problem, I have often been crashed into here.

This would be a great solution.

(http://www.esi.info/Images/profilePics/Entry_Parking_Posts_Alligator_Teeth_direction_enforcement_4.jpg)

Back to the actual, feasible solutions.

This:

I don't think so... lol
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Reece on March 03, 2011, 11:10:23 pm: Why not? Think about it, it would be a great way of stopping the fools.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: duffman on March 03, 2011, 11:34:13 pm: People can cross by the garden. Not by the road.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Reece on March 03, 2011, 11:58:25 pm: A simple fence should stop that problem, a fence around the garden, then the 'gator strip in the road and blockades on the pavement, problem solved.

Although, it would likely, cost too much, so a officer stationed there, may solve the problem.

The manner, in which people drive around this city, is, well, insane, people have been killed at this intersection, and he would you feel if you family was killed?

*Please note.

This is not intended as an actual suggestion for SA;MP, simply IC speech.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: TinMan on July 20, 2011, 12:29:18 am: Mulholland Intersection
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Howdy,
I am actually pleased with the results that I found, but some SAPD staff I am completely upset about. Here we are trying to get civilians to stop doing traffic violations, yet we have a few SAPD officers that like to violate Act III Section II.i of the constitution or even more laws. Whenever you do that, it makes you a complete hipocrit and you don't want civilians to know that you are hipocritical. So we should follow laws at all times whenever we are on duty, but when we are responding to an emergency,backup call, pursuit, etc... then we are allowed to speed, drive in the incorrect lane, etc.. (if neccessary). So what can we say, lets represent the law, so we aren't hipocrits of the law.

20:00 to 22:00 (CET) Results:

Civilians
Wrong Ramp/Lane: 20
Correct Ramp/Lane: 36

SAPD Police
Wrong Ramp/Lane: 3
Correct Ramp/Lane: 8
Use Wrong Ramp for Emergencies: 4

ARPD Police
Wrong Ramp/Lane: 1
Correct Ramp/Lane: 8
Use Wrong Ramp for Emergencies: 6

EMS/Fire
Wrong Ramp/Lane: 0
Correct Ramp/Lane: 0
Use Wrong Ramp/Lane Emergencies Only: 2

Taxi
Wrong Ramp/Lane: 1
Correct Ramp/Lane: 2
Suspects: 9

These results actually surprised me alittle bit. I figured maybe more civilians would use the wrong ramp than used the correct. But...SAPD? We should start stepping up law enforcement at the Mulholland Intersection to start ensuring safety for all people because our duties are here to serve and protect the citizens of Argonath. If we could catch atleast 10 people per an hour using the wrong ramp, then it would make a whole lot of difference in Argonath society.

Signed,
Senior Officer TinMan
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Julio. on July 20, 2011, 12:31:04 am: I think we should get the ARPD Officers watching the ramps, they have the best statistics for getting it right
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: TinMan on October 01, 2011, 06:33:11 am: (http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/Lmotoole/sa-mp-494.png)
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Matt Murdock on October 03, 2011, 09:25:26 pm: Hmm, how about putting a sign board there in RS 5? :D
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Gabriel_VogelBR on October 05, 2011, 10:19:44 pm: I use the right lane everytime, even as Officer.
People using wronglane are foolish, they are risking their lives.

REMEMBER: By using the wrong lane, you are not being rebel, you are being a retarded. Yes, that kind of people who like to lick the window of the bus and listen to Justin Bieber.

The fine you must pay is the max (250$) and yes, if you hit someone's car by using the wrong lane, they can Sue you for a large ammount of cash.

Signed, Officer Gabriel Vogel
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: TinMan on October 12, 2011, 06:05:57 am: I belive that there should be arrows on the road indicating which ramp to use. Most people don't know which ramp it is so they just take the incorrect ramp. I do think its kind of foolish that these people don't know how to drive, so arrows on the road could be helpful.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: jinjifliaktor on October 21, 2011, 08:11:40 pm: Supported
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: valmiustila on October 24, 2011, 06:40:29 pm: Maybe someone could add stopsticks - You know, like they has in parking lots in USA.. If you come from wrong direction.. BOOM
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Teddy on October 25, 2011, 10:11:44 pm: Warning, Fine, Jail

This should apply to everyone from Citizens, to ARPD and SAPD. If a officer uses the wrong lane, they are indeed breaching the constitution, there for will be treated and considered a criminal, and should be considered one as well. Its not that hard to use the proper lane, it saves what 6 seconds?

Supported idea and statement.
Good work Tinman!
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: TinMan on May 15, 2012, 06:55:59 am: The Mulholland Intersection is coming back active and just reminding all civilians about this issue again. Just do not use the wrong ramp.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Thomas_A on May 15, 2012, 05:43:26 pm: That's going to be difficult mission for you to handle all thoose people who break traffic laws, but good luck. :cop:
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Mikal on May 17, 2012, 04:49:31 pm: If I made the law:
Civilians who use it = Instant Suspect
Cops who use it = Instant cop ban.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Jones on May 17, 2012, 06:55:44 pm: If you made the law, I'd hate to see what you would to to murderers.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Mikal on May 17, 2012, 11:24:34 pm: Quote from: jjones432 on May 17, 2012, 06:55:44 pm
If you made the law, I'd hate to see what you would to to murderers.
Well, to start of I'de stick a knight stick into their rectum then super glue it, then I'de tell Jcs the murderer is a witch and have them stone him, then I'de leave them at NAP in /gu without cuffing them and go away hoping no admins are online so I don't get punished.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: memphisraines on May 18, 2012, 12:56:15 am: I have added the proper usage of ramps to my lesson plan for SFDS. Seems it needs to be covered. You have to cross into opposing traffic to use opposing ramps so I would think common sense would kick in.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Ãƒâ€°Ã‚Â¹Ãƒâ€¡Ã‚ÂÃƒÅ Ã¢â‚¬Â¡suoÃƒâ€°Ã‚Â¯ on May 21, 2012, 10:31:37 pm: I am with TinMan on this,this is a serious issue.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Marcell on May 21, 2012, 11:03:16 pm: I always went up there and never realised I was taking a shortcut lol

if it was up to me I'd just add some kind of arrow-sign (theres prolly suitable model...) to point down, to force ppl to understand the directions
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Grant_Norris on May 22, 2012, 01:33:32 am: I have also heard Fireman's, and Cops saying "Well I was Code 3 so I am aloud to do that."

Well that is BS. In "NO" way should you put others and yourself included at risk, even if you are C3, or not.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: memphisraines on May 22, 2012, 08:17:29 am: Quote from: Grant_Norris on May 22, 2012, 01:33:32 am
I have also heard Fireman's, and Cops saying "Well I was Code 3 so I am aloud to do that."

Well that is BS. In "NO" way should you put others and yourself included at risk, even if you are C3, or not.

^^ This.

Even running code you should only cross over into oncoming lanes if it's clear and safe to do so, and only as a last resort/if absolutely necessary. Some people think that once they hit the lights/siren that they're God and can just drive wherever they want regardless of traffic laws.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Hess on May 22, 2012, 09:03:02 am: Quote from: Grant_Norris on May 22, 2012, 01:33:32 am
In "NO" way should you put others and yourself included at risk, even if you are C3, or not.
It goes both ways. Depending on the situation, the longer you take to arrive at the situation, you are also putting people's life's at risk (ie. Code 30, fire, car accident).

At the same time though, you have to make sure you arrive in one piece. :cop:
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: newguy on May 22, 2012, 10:04:18 am: Guess I'll just have to use a plane to go through the "wrong" ramps.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: AnnaR on May 23, 2012, 04:30:04 pm: We also got to remember that this isnt the only traffic issue.
Be honest to yourself, do you ever follow the speed limit, even if you are a cop?
I dont think many do.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: newguy on May 31, 2012, 10:30:24 pm: (http://i.imgur.com/rhhWe.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Ri6yI.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/HzmO3.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/enqdC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/RfFJP.jpg)

So I did it

Quote from: newguy on May 22, 2012, 10:04:18 am
Guess I'll just have to use a plane to go through the "wrong" ramps.

Now what,police officers?
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Woka on June 14, 2012, 03:36:41 am: Quote from: newguy on May 31, 2012, 10:30:24 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/rhhWe.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Ri6yI.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/HzmO3.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/enqdC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/RfFJP.jpg)

So I did it

Now what,police officers?

:lol:

#SwaG
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Alsatian on June 14, 2012, 03:51:30 am: You cops can't always monitor that road. And when your attention slips away from it for just a second, I'm going to drive on the wrong road.

LET THERE BE ANARCHY
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Squeak on June 14, 2012, 05:52:27 am: I'M GOING TO DRIVE UP THAT RAMP IN REVERSE
ACAB THUG LIFE
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Enzo Adinolfi on June 16, 2012, 04:54:01 pm: Quote from: Squeak on June 14, 2012, 05:52:27 am
I'M GOING TO DRIVE UP THAT RAMP IN REVERSE
ACAB THUG LIFE

LOL
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on June 16, 2012, 05:57:51 pm: Quote from: Enzo Adinolfi on June 16, 2012, 04:54:01 pm
LOL
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: rentedh1tm4nben on October 10, 2012, 07:19:34 pm: yes it kind of annoys me to see them drive up the wrong ramp, however luckily i have experienced their front bumper.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Mr. Goobii on October 11, 2012, 09:14:46 am: I think this is a issue by the driving schools, they should be responsible for teaching those guys and also re-teach these veterans what to do.

Burn down those corrupted Independence schools, burn! :skull:
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: newguy on October 11, 2012, 10:39:59 am: Quote from: Mr. Goobii on October 11, 2012, 09:14:46 am
I think this is a issue by the driving schools, they should be responsible for teaching those guys and also re-teach these veterans what to do.

Burn down those corrupted Independence schools, burn! :skull:

Driving schools don't have ramps in the program, as they aren't important.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Mr. Goobii on October 11, 2012, 11:20:10 am: Quote from: newguy on October 11, 2012, 10:39:59 am

Driving schools don't have ramps in the program, as they aren't important.

Because they don't have a program at all? Fool! :skull:
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: newguy on October 11, 2012, 03:56:18 pm: Quote from: Mr. Goobii on October 11, 2012, 11:20:10 am
Because they don't have a program at all? Fool! :skull:

They do,but since the ramp usage is such an uninteresting and unimportant thing, no one cares about it.
Title: Re: Cops & Civils Using Mulholland Intersection Wrong Ramps
Post by: Petarda on October 11, 2012, 04:08:57 pm: Quote from: newguy on October 11, 2012, 10:39:59 am

Driving schools don't have ramps in the program, as they aren't important.

False,they have ... :rules: