Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:VC => VC:MP General => VC:MP - Vice City Multiplayer => VC:MP Ideas => Topic started by: Klaus on February 19, 2011, 04:23:32 am
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The possibility of selecting SWAT should only be enabled if there is a criminal with a high bounty.
Discuss.
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Nah I think there should just be a /c equip command.
Since SWAT is already a ARPD group.
I mean, who will want to use the /c equip command for someone with a small bounty?
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Actually, players are only able to wear their SWAT uniforms, when there are groups of criminals with high bounty level. You can't just go out with the SWAT uniform on minor cases.
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Actually, players are only able to wear their SWAT uniforms, when there are groups of criminals with high bounty level. You can't just go out with the SWAT uniform on minor cases.
Now, I don't want to argue, but it doesn't seem like ppl like this rule from what I saw, you know what I mean? And no, I'm not talking about me when I was script abusing.
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Actually, players are only able to wear their SWAT uniforms, when there are groups of criminals with high bounty level. You can't just go out with the SWAT uniform on minor cases.
Exactly how high are you talking about?
5 or 6?
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Yea, those with the right to have SWAT gears should only use them in combat/police work when it comes to high risk situations - usually involving heavy weaponry.
Exceptions being for training purposes and internal SWAT operations.
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No. SWAT already have duty regulations, means they can go on duty only on situations listed in a topic at restricted boards, but i can assure people in SWAT CAN'T go on SWAT duty to chase minor criminals. If you see someone doing this report to me or Marcus.
Now, I don't want to argue, but it doesn't seem like ppl like this rule from what I saw, you know what I mean? And no, I'm not talking about me when I was script abusing.
Lol i knew this was going to happen. What probably makes us look like ''abusers'', ''BWAT'' is that we are most of time on duty, but ALWAYS with a reason, as 70% of the time a Operative is online there is a situation that allows him to get on SWAT duty...
Exactly how high are you talking about?
5 or 6?
We won't inform this, but SWAT is also allowed to chase a single criminal depending of his bounty.
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I'm not accussing your BWAT officers of anything, just remind them to change back to default duty when the biggest criminals are down ;) Kinda annoying to see BWAT officer chasing me in Cheetah while my wanted level is 2, and when I start escaping on foot I get taken down by hail of bullets from assault rifle...
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Hey hey wait a minute here pal, SWAT doesn't stay on duty after the major criminal is dead, and even if we did, we are inactive or roaming the streets waiting for something " big " to happen.. That's my point of view.
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What's this "BWAT" word about?
Honestly,you should live with it just the way it is.
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Hey hey wait a minute here pal, SWAT doesn't stay on duty after the major criminal is dead, and even if we did, we are inactive or roaming the streets waiting for something " big " to happen.. That's my point of view.
I never said you do, I said it seems some of you ppl just seem to forget about that, sometimes.
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I have to agree with Marcell. More often am I seeing officers using SWAT skin to chase low level criminals. More to the point they even debate why they should be able to suspect when SWAT. SWAT isn't for "roaming around waiting for something big to happen". They are sent out for situations where the cops can't handle it.
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I have to agree with Marcell. More often am I seeing officers using SWAT skin to chase low level criminals. More to the point they even debate why they should be able to suspect when SWAT. SWAT isn't for "roaming around waiting for something big to happen". They are sent out for situations where the cops can't handle it.
Report them to ARPD Forum or PM to Leonardo.
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Report them to ARPD Forum or PM to Leonardo.
No point in that - it happens to every BWAT officer, sometimes. Besides I don't think I'll get much of Leo's trust when I got banned for DMing, that's for sure.
Anyways the point is I think SWAT duty should be only available on emergency protocols (like Gear 5) or just some auto-lock for it, so when they aren't any criminals with WL higher of 6 you can't go on SWAT duty. However the problem is, no role-playing when admins are off, and that can be annoying.
This is not the best idea, but something really needs to be done.
And yeah, Klaus - I heard 'OMG, why the hell can't i suspect as a SWAT' line 100 times.
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happens to every BWAT officer, sometimes. Besides I don't think I'll get much of Leo's trust when I got banned for DMing, that's for sure.
If you have proofs the complaint will be dealt accordingly, i'm fucking sick of seeing people saying ''ok swat abuse lol u chase small crimez'' WHEN PEOPLE DON'T REPORT THEN. Please, start reporting this to me or Marcus WITH proofs (screenshots, logs, videos) AND WE WILL TAKE ACTIONS!
I'll tell you a example. I hear criminals saying X is one of the SWAT operatives who mostly ''abuses''. What he exactly abuses? He is trigger-happy? He's corrupt? Send a complaint to me. Simple.
I have to agree with Marcell. More often am I seeing officers using SWAT skin to chase low level criminals. More to the point they even debate why they should be able to suspect when SWAT. SWAT isn't for "roaming around waiting for something big to happen". They are sent out for situations where the cops can't handle it.
See what i said above. And yes i agree, SWAT should not be able to suspect. The suspection must be done with VCID/VCPD cooperation. SWAT is trained only to RESPOND to the situations, not do the paperwork and sign tickets...
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Marcell - if you see SWAT operatives chasing a low level criminal/taking them down it would most likely be due to the fact that they are part of a group of bigger criminals that are/were involved in a larger crime of some sort.
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Marcell, I suggest reporting anything to Marcus instead of Leo (you know the case)
When I was a newbie on the Argonath RPG, SWAT uniform was something rare to see. JayL has kept the police force strong and with some rules. Now swat or vcid uniforms are something casual, guys pimpin' with heavy arms and stealth everywhere,
Is it the proper way it's done?
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Marcell - if you see SWAT operatives chasing a low level criminal/taking them down it would most likely be due to the fact that they are part of a group of bigger criminals that are/were involved in a larger crime of some sort.
Naa. I know. But hey, just cause my criminal bounty is 1,2mill doesn't give others permission to use SWAT duty when chasing me at WL of 2 when I have no guns, eh?
But yeah I see there's no other way, I'll just report next time...
And yea Aven, I know. Lol'd at your avatar, btw.
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Marcell, I suggest reporting anything to Marcus instead of Leo (you know the case)
Marcus needs to pass me all the reports as he's lower-ranked.
When I was a newbie on the Argonath RPG, SWAT uniform was something rare to see. JayL has kept the police force strong and with some rules. Now swat or vcid uniforms are something casual, guys pimpin' with heavy arms and stealth everywhere,
Is it the proper way it's done?
I love how criminals create the stereotype ''done - it's like this and that how it works in the server, ARPD is shit!''
Seems you didn't read the topic at all. Due to ''rioters'', there is like 2 or 3 situations which SWAT can be dispatched in around a hour in the server. Same for VCID and the stealth. There you go. The stereotype is created. ''ARPD is shit because SWAT/VCID is lol all the time but i didn't had time to think that high-standard crimes are commited all the time but i'll keep on shitting''.
SWAT and VCID have regulations to be followed also..
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Marcus needs to pass me all the reports as he's lower-ranked.
I love how criminals create the stereotype ''done - it's like this and that how it works in the server, ARPD is shit!''
Seems you didn't read the topic at all. Due to ''rioters'', there is like 2 or 3 situations which SWAT can be dispatched in around a hour in the server. Same for VCID and the stealth. There you go. The stereotype is created. ''ARPD is shit because SWAT/VCID is lol all the time but i didn't had time to think that high-standard crimes are commited all the time but i'll keep on shitting''.
SWAT and VCID have regulations to be followed also..
OMG U STALIN!1111
Why the hell do you consist on fighting? And yeah, it's sure some epic heavy crimes getting done when like 3-4 ppl are online on the server, and BWAT officer is chasing me in cheetah when my WL is 2. We gave some sensible arguments: remind your boys to change the skin, AFTER the action is done. Cause now from what I saw, it's more like 'OMG I HAZ SOME RIFLES SO AFTER I KILL KLAUS I STAY IN SWAT SKIN SO BRINGING DOWN NABZ WILL BE EASIER'
To be honest...the situation when ppl used VCID and SWAT duties for nothing were so common, that I was surprised to see Pyrus in regular cop skin, or Alex in regular cop skin. Ppl seem to forget that in RL, after some SWAT officers do a job properly, next day they're back on their normal duty, as common police officers. This situation has changed by now, no more arguing about it please, we are both right.
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OMG U STALIN!1111
Why the hell do you consist on fighting? And yeah, it's sure some epic heavy crimes getting done when like 3-4 ppl are online on the server, and BWAT officer is chasing me in cheetah when my WL is 2. We gave some sensible arguments: remind your boys to change the skin, AFTER the action is done. Cause now from what I saw, it's more like 'OMG I HAZ SOME RIFLES SO AFTER I KILL KLAUS I STAY IN SWAT SKIN SO BRINGING DOWN NABZ WILL BE EASIER'
To be honest...the situation when ppl used VCID and SWAT duties for nothing were so common, that I was surprised to see Pyrus in regular cop skin, or Alex in regular cop skin. Ppl seem to forget that in RL, after some SWAT officers do a job properly, next day they're back on their normal duty, as common police officers. This situation has changed by now, no more arguing about it please, we are both right.
As far as I know, FBI guys always use their suit, they don't even bother to be common cops, they aren't common cops. They must wear the uniform of the institution they represent. But yeah, you're right.. If anyone has been using SWAT uniforms out of time, please report them to me or Leonardo.
Requesting lock now.
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Ye, but if you're talking about VCID, I didn't knew they were fully based on FBI if you ask me. :P
Ye, let's lock this down, too much arguing going on.
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Just a little reminder: VCID=FBI with a different name and a not-so-different structure.
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OMG U STALIN!1111
Why the hell do you consist on fighting? And yeah, it's sure some epic heavy crimes getting done when like 3-4 ppl are online on the server, and BWAT officer is chasing me in cheetah when my WL is 2. We gave some sensible arguments: remind your boys to change the skin, AFTER the action is done. Cause now from what I saw, it's more like 'OMG I HAZ SOME RIFLES SO AFTER I KILL KLAUS I STAY IN SWAT SKIN SO BRINGING DOWN NABZ WILL BE EASIER'
To be honest...the situation when ppl used VCID and SWAT duties for nothing were so common, that I was surprised to see Pyrus in regular cop skin, or Alex in regular cop skin. Ppl seem to forget that in RL, after some SWAT officers do a job properly, next day they're back on their normal duty, as common police officers. This situation has changed by now, no more arguing about it please, we are both right.
If they stay on SWAT skin to chase small crimes, report. Reminders will be posted on SWAT boards as it seems it's not only you and Klaus who are ''complaining''.
I have even got moderator reports from this topic, but it will remain open, as long as people stick with the original point of the topic (restrict SWAT to higher crimes only by scripts). If any more off-topic is found, the person will be dealt with. If you have any more arguments or questions about SWAT pm me...
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it's more like 'OMG I HAZ SOME RIFLES SO AFTER I KILL KLAUS I STAY IN SWAT SKIN SO BRINGING DOWN NABZ WILL BE EASIER'
Lol. Why me? :P
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Lol. Why me? :P
I brought Klaus down in cop skin... booyeah to freecop Morphine.
Btw, why Klaus? He's not wanted 24/7, it happens occasionally :P hmm but occasionally is a big word in this case