Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:IV => IV:MP - Liberty City Multiplayer => IV:MP Ideas & Suggestions => Topic started by: boostboy on March 14, 2011, 10:00:23 pm
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Can we get one? :P
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Lets make sure RS2 comes out first
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Only high ranked stuff still and maybe only Noose? :evil:
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Hi Doggi,
Thank you for contributing with your idea. Here is my review of it:
...We do not need another "Remove Hydra" episode as our colleagues on SA:MP. Remove the Annihilator, as it is way to destructive and useless(Liberty City is a chaotic concrete jungle, which's warfare should be fought on the ground.
Regards.
I hope you understand it. Both N.O.O.S.E and F.B.I should not posses an Annihilator.
Regards.
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My personal opinion is that it should be used only from NOOSE because it is supposed for tactical assist, deployes, etc. Besides in future when NOOSE is active again it will often cooperate with FBI in operations.
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tactical assist
Tactical assists? One bullet from that machine gun and three people are dead. That vehicle brings more chaos than help.
The streets of Liberty City have an urban warfare puff. The "battles" are supposed to be fought on the streets. It would be dull to see an Annihilator, chasing a vehicle in pursuit.
Regards.
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I agree with Void, as far as I remember CBFasi chased me in one for some time, lol and I was on foot... it kinda looked like "over-kill" and seeing as things will be for a while(no Z-angle and other axis not synced properly either) I'd say it's pretty useless...
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I would say we must remove it, but now that I have considered it we actually need it and that is only for one use.
If a suspect is fleeing in a Helicopter only then may the annihilator be used to bring down their heli.
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Yeah IF the suspect has a heli...
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It's quite hard to aim and shoot with the annihilator on moving vehicle. Of course there will be limitations when the miniguns can be used (in which situatuations) so as to not abuse with it.
Edit: Another advantage of this heli is the speed.
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Must agree with Void.
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If you realy want to add it then make it for Noose and FBI high ranked and make strict rules about using it(example: allow to use it in situations like this: guy planted bomb on his car and he is on highway driving to center of town to activate it.)
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Then youll blow the car and bomb up, same thing xD
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Then youll blow the car and bomb up, same thing xD
XD , i mean , blow it up before he gets there.
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Only one Annihilator for both the FBI and NOoSE... So there can't be two birds (= annihilator) in the air at the same time.
Also, once it is shot down, you won't be able to get another for 15 minutes.
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I would say we must remove it, but now that I have considered it we actually need it and that is only for one use.
If a suspect is fleeing in a Helicopter only then may the annihilator be used to bring down their heli.
"IF", is a relative term. It might get abused. Else, the LCPD personnel member should get demoted if they use a Helicopter for a non-flying suspect. OK?
I still stand for total removal. We do not need a deja vu like "OMG remove Hydra".
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I think high limitations will do work. You maybe tested the annihilator in the regular MP. It is harder to shoot down man on foot then in a car because he can hide almost everywhere. When I played it was even better to be on foot than in heli. If you stop for sec while in air with the annihilator - you are down. One rocket - job done. Thats why I prefered rocket launcher, a lot of ammo and fast car. The annihilator is most effective in Heli VS Heli as Devin told, I can confirm it. If you all think that miniguns will be abused then ban only them somehow but not remove the heli.
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It will not be removed.
I do however intend to put further usage restrictions on it once the IVMP sync issues are resolved and thus the helicopter becomes even more deadly...
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It will not be removed.
I do however intend to put further usage restrictions on it once the IVMP sync issues are resolved and thus the helicopter becomes even more deadly...
Agree
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It will not be removed.
I do however intend to put further usage restrictions on it once the IVMP sync issues are resolved and thus the helicopter becomes even more deadly...
I don't know...it seems pretty deadly already! A smart user the other day came up with the very creative idea of using it's blades to flip and heavily damage my delivery truck when police had trouble stopping me with normal means. :)
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I don't know...it seems pretty deadly already! A smart user the other day came up with the very creative idea of using it's blades to flip and heavily damage my delivery truck when police had trouble stopping me with normal means. :)
That was me :D. I use it regularly when we can't stop suspects. You were with the black truck (the one next to gas station on main road), right?
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That was me :D. I use it regularly when we can't stop suspects. You were with the black truck (the one next to gas station on main road), right?
Hahaha yep! Good work!
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There will be regulations on its use...
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Couldn't the current Annihilator be shared with Noose and FBI?
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The use of Annihilator is currently only restricted to NOOSE, Nobody has yet NOOSE rights. But it will stay.
The usage of it is simple, the Tactical Response Unit of NOOSE will be able to use that vehicle in any case.
Fast Transportation. For sure it's totaly radical and not really realistic to start shooting on the ground. The
Weaponary should only be used on other Helicopters and Suspects that evade with them. Otherwise the
Annihilator will serve a fast transportation and arrival of it's passagers to/on location.
And no, FBI's objectives are far from taking other Helicopters down. They would have to coorperate with
NOOSE who has that possbility. FBI is restricted to use their Maverick instead. In wich world would we be
if all would be fair and everyone gets everything? :)
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If it would be my desicion, I wouldn't have the Annihilator as Void stated since there is to much moaning about it.
Specially on SA:MP, if you're cleaver enough and are competent enough you can catch criminals easily.
And if you want a helicopter, use a regular Maverick or something.
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No, your arguement is not solid. I do not see any reason to remove it, especially not since anything happened on SA:MP.
The Annihilator is a valid tool for the Tactical Response Unit of the Liberty City Law Enforcement. If Criminals are smart
enough, they be fast and try to land as soon as possible in some save area, especially since they are not marked Orange
on the Mini map.
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No, your arguement is not solid. I do not see any reason to remove it, especially not since anything happened on SA:MP.
The Annihilator is a valid tool for the Tactical Response Unit of the Liberty City Law Enforcement. If Criminals are smart
enough, they be fast and try to land as soon as possible in some save area, especially since they are not marked Orange
on the Mini map.
My point Tai is simple, people will create moaning topics as they always do and say the law enforcement have more and are overpowered due to those mass murding vechiles with miniguns.
And they have more script support than the others.
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My point Tai is simple, people will create moaning topics as they always do and say the law enforcement have more and are overpowered due to those mass murding vechiles with miniguns.
And they have more script support than the others.
I do not force to be a Criminal, I am trying to keep my streets clean. I won't ever try to support Criminal actions... thats the point. What SA:MP players forgot is that THIS IS NOT A COP AND ROBBERS server. The objective of the LCPD is to keep street clean, not that everyone kills each other with same advantages.
And at the end I got a simple solution for you, try making a Buisness job or a default one instead of running around scaring people.
PS: Criminal is a role a Citizen took, it does not get scripts support and it definetly will not be promoted from Development side. It is just a Roleplay type you can choose.
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I just hope criminals wont ask for RPGs since law enforcement has killing-machine :lol: :lol:
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I just hope criminals wont ask for RPGs since law enforcement has killing-machine :lol: :lol:
Actually I will try to make that possible to be gotten by Citizens.
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Actually I will try to make that possible to be gotten by Citizens.
Nooooo.Why? Gang fight - massive rockets inbound. Wont look good.
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I do not force to be a Criminal, I am trying to keep my streets clean. I won't ever try to support Criminal actions... thats the point. What SA:MP players forgot is that THIS IS NOT A COP AND ROBBERS server. The objective of the LCPD is to keep street clean, not that everyone kills each other with same advantages.
And at the end I got a simple solution for you, try making a Buisness job or a default one instead of running around scaring people.
PS: Criminal is a role a Citizen took, it does not get scripts support and it definetly will not be promoted from Development side. It is just a Roleplay type you can choose.
Let me rephrase myself, I actually miss spelled some. Most moans about that the law enforcement has more script support. That was my second point, I don't have anything against the Hydra/Hunter in SA:MP if it's uses right same as the Annihalator.
I just pointed out my opinion in this matter for now, of course the helicopter can create good roleplay scenarios between criminals and the police, that I don't disagree on.
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Let me rephrase myself, I actually miss spelled some. Most moans about that the law enforcement has more script support. That was my second point, I don't have anything against the Hydra/Hunter in SA:MP if it's uses right same as the Annihalator.
I just pointed out my opinion in this matter for now, of course the helicopter can create good roleplay scenarios between criminals and the police, that I don't disagree on.
Then you also won't disagree that Annihilator stays and support CBF with what he mentioned about the restrictions Officers will have.
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Then you also won't disagree that Annihilator stays and support CBF with what he mentioned about the restrictions Officers will have.
Yes, and of course it will have restrictions and strict rules.
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I do not see any reason to remove it, especially not since anything happened on SA:MP.
"Remove the Hydra/Hunter..." threads. Enough said.
It will happen in IV:MP once we grow and the synchronization increases and you know it.
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1. Rules of usage must be made before chosing who is gona be able to use anhilator and reason is simple; FBI and Noose dont do same jobs but with situations like "suspect evading via helicopter" fbi would be pleased to have one anhilator although it will be more fit to noose because noose deals with dangerous criminals more than fbi.
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WHAT THE FUCK does SAMP hydra/hunter have to do with the Annilathor in IVMP.... NOTHING.
Keep on topic or EACH person that has gone off topic to the SAMP matter will find me punishing them...
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WHAT THE f**k does SAMP hydra/hunter have to do with the Annilathor in IVMP.... NOTHING.
Keep on topic or EACH person that has gone off topic to the SAMP matter will find me punishing them...
Exactly...
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Exactly...
You will punish them as well? :lol:
Anyways.. I think there should be only one Annihilator for both NOOSE, FBI & regular cops ;)
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At the moment here is one, there is currently no need to increase the number at this time, what happens in the future is unknown, afterall we cannot predict what will happen (if you think you can give me the winning euromillions numbers please)
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WHAT THE f**k does SAMP hydra/hunter have to do with the Annilathor in IVMP.... NOTHING.
Sorry, I removed that post.
I think it'd be good to forget Annihilator for just 1 department, they should be shared - so name: "Argonath Special Divisions" - referring to fBI and NOOSE.
Or FBI can be in NOOSE to.
OR change completly to:
APRD
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NOOSE
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FBI LCPD SWAT
Or Swapt NOOSE over on-top of ARPD then NOOSE can accommodate other groups if they come - like Army, or create non service divisions.
Although I doubt it will happen, its a nice thought.
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PS: Criminal is a role a Citizen took, it does not get scripts support and it definetly will not be promoted from Development side. It is just a Roleplay type you can choose.
A cop is a role a citizen took. Your argument is not only invalid, but a blatant infringement on the fun to be had in the server. Just from that statement, I don't even want to play IV:MP. Being a criminal is a lifestyle on the server just like being a cop. Citizens, cops, and criminals alike should get script support. This is another classics case of no criminal managers that can change anything, and that you cops actually see criminals as bad people.
How can you not promote the choice someone makes because it will cause extra trouble for the cops?
Apologies for budding in here, I know I'm a SA:MP player but I can't let that statement stand as is.
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This is another classics case of no criminal managers that can change anything, and that you cops actually see criminals as bad people.
How can you not promote the choice someone makes because it will cause extra trouble for the cops?
Well you are not right here. A simple example for a criminal promoted to moderator is sidskyper. Unfortunately he was removed for other reason. To become manager the player should prove himself that he develops the server not only with scripting but with everything that can help this community growth, providing it more players, making it one more friendly place for regulars and newcomers. It is nothing with criminal activity or so. But you know that a guy who only kills a dozen of players, everyday can't be something more than a citizen.
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Well you are not right here. A simple example for a criminal promoted to moderator is sidskyper. Unfortunately he was removed for other reason. To become manager the player should prove himself that he develops the server not only with scripting but with everything that can help this community growth, providing it more players, making it one more friendly place for regulars and newcomers. It is nothing with criminal activity or so. But you know that a guy who only kills a dozen of players, everyday can't be something more than a citizen.
I don't think you understood my post. I wasn't saying that they don't exist, and I don't even play on your server. Moderators have fairly little say in anything that goes on, and the fact that this is passing is due to the fact that none of the main admins of IV:MP are criminals, simply put. I have been on Argonath for a while my friend, trust me in what I'm saying here.
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The moderator is just the first step but leave that aside.
I'll return again on sids. He was one of the most wanted before he became moderator. I mean he decreased his criminal activity because he was busy, concentrated on his new duty, trying to prove himself as good mod. That's why you can't see active criminal admins they just change their way of playing. And again I am sure that management is not looking for their recruits like cop - fits, criminal - doesn't fit.
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The moderator is just the first step but leave that aside.
I'll return again on sids. He was one of the most wanted before he became moderator. I mean he decreased his criminal activity because he was busy, concentrated on his new duty, trying to prove himself as good mod. That's why you can't see active criminal admins they just change their way of playing. And again I am sure that management is not looking for their recruits like cop - fits, criminal - doesn't fit.
So you mean that a citizen a criminal one can't be a moderator since he's the most wanted or do I get you wrong?
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No, I mean exactly the other, that he can. I gave sidskyper as example - most wanted who became moderator. Sorry if you didn't understand me right.
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No, I mean exactly the other, that he can. I gave sidskyper as example - most wanted who became moderator. Sorry if you didn't understand me right.
Your roleplay character doesn't affect your capability to do the admin work.
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That is what I am trying to say.
Edit: We are deep in the off topic. :lol:
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That is what I am trying to say.
Edit: We are deep in the off topic. :lol:
Oh I beg my pardon, forgot. :lol:
On-topic: The ARPD should get the Annihilator.
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This has turned into yet ANOTHER criminal vs cops script support topic, even attracting NON IVMP players to stir things up even more...
TOPIC LOCKED !!