Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: 9r2e5i3k on March 17, 2011, 08:03:27 pm
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I hope this topic won't turn out into any moan topic or flame war...
I want to know what's the actual definition of "criminal", especially by self-claimed "criminals" and "criminal" group members. Because I sense there must be some logical fallacy in understanding what's a "criminal" (not only between criminals themselves, but between players in general) that causes all the moaning about "criminals" in various topics.
Assumption for this topic: no definition is assumed as wrong (yet, we'll argue about it later), so no arguing about someone being "wrong"
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"criminals" and "criminal" group members.
These are the same thing, and that is my definition.
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These are the same thing, and that is my definition.
Panda. I am not a member of any criminal grouping, but I do role play in situations that are illegal( money laundering, illegal immigration, tax evasion, clashes with different gangs/ criminal organization). So am I a criminal or not?
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These are the same thing, and that is my definition.
So anyone being a member of a group that calls themselves "criminals", is a "criminal"?
Got any narrower definitions?
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Criminal: Person that does not have his name in blue
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Panda. I am not a member of any criminal grouping, but I do role play in situations that are illegal( money laundering, illegal immigration, tax evasion, clashes with different gangs/ criminal organization). So am I a criminal or not?
You're a criminal.
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Definitions of criminal on the Web:
condemnable: bringing or deserving severe rebuke or censure; "a criminal waste of talent"; "a deplorable act of violence"; "adultery is as reprehensible for a husband as for a wife"
guilty of crime or serious offense; "criminal in the sight of God and man"
someone who has committed a crime or has been legally convicted of a crime
involving or being or having the nature of a crime; "a criminal offense"; "criminal abuse"; "felonious intent"
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Crime is the breach of rules or laws for which some governing authority (via mechanisms such as legal systems) can ultimately prescribe a conviction. Individual human societies may each define crime and crimes differently. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal
The Criminal is a 1960 British drama film produced by Nat Cohen and directed by Joseph Losey, starring Stanley Baker, Sam Wanamaker and Jill Bennett. Baker plays an ex-con who takes part in the robbery of a racetrack and is caught and sent back to prison. ...
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Criminal is an ongoing American creator-owned crime comic book series by writer Ed Brubaker with artist Sean Phillips published by Marvel Comics' Icon imprint.
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Criminal is a 2004 film based upon the Argentine film Nine Queens. Directed by Gregory Jacobs, it stars John C. Reilly, Diego Luna and Maggie Gyllenhaal and is a production of Section Eight, the production company of Steven Soderbergh and George Clooney.
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"Criminal" is a 1996 piano rock song by Fiona Apple. Apple described the song as a description of "feeling bad for getting something so easily by using your sexuality.". Blender (magazine). October 2005. Retrieved June 29, 2007. ...
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Criminal (à°•à±ÂÂరిమినలà±ÂÂ) is a 1995 Telugu film directed by Mahesh Bhatt and produced by K. S. Rama Rao. It stars Akkineni Nagarjuna, Manisha Koirala, Ramya Krishnan, Nassar, Gulshan Grover, and Sharat Babu. M.M. Keeravani composed music for the film.
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Ten Thousand Fists is the third album by American heavy metal band Disturbed. The album was released on September 20, 2005 and became Disturbed's second consecutive number-one debut on the Billboard 200 in the United States, shipping around 239,000 copies in its opening week. ...
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A person who is guilty of a crime, notably breaking the law; Being against the law, forbidden by legislation; Guilty of breaking the law; In various legal systems, the most serious type of law-breaking, carrying graver sentences then one or more 'lesser' categories; Of or relating to crime ...
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/criminal
criminally - in a shameful manner; "the garden was criminally neglected"
criminally - in violation of the law; in a criminal manner; "the alterations in the document were ruled to be criminally fraudulent"
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The Criminals was a punk rock band from Berkeley, California, that released records on the Lookout!, New Disorder Records and Adeline Records labels. Singer Jesse Luscious previously performed with Blatz and The Gr'ups. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Criminals
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I do not need definitions "from the web", get that copypasta outta here
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Criminal - Orange man.
Ollie what a copyfail.
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A criminal; someone who takes part in illegal activities.
Really now.
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Criminal - One who knowingly participates in various crimes consistently. These are not those who go and speed all the time, shoot in the air for whoring attention, do reckless driving. Instead, they consistently (or occasionally) do a combination of all or some of participating in drug dealing, carrying out hits, rape/kidnapping/murder, and all of the other fancy stuff. One does not earn the title of a true criminal until they show they are capable of roleplaying as a criminal, rather than just doing the illegal stuff alone.
Criminals can call themselves criminals not by being suspected 24/7, and not even by doing the aforementioned crimes above, but just by being some opposition to law enforcement.
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To Catch a Thief: The Psychology of a Criminal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQGfSYFyLVU#ws)
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+PzP+9r2e5i3k, maybe it's easier to actually define everyone else beside "criminals"?
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Criminal is simply someone who break law anyhow.
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A criminal, generally in a criminal group, is someone who calls themselves such even when not suspected, and is recognised as such by other players.
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A criminal, generally in a criminal group, is someone who calls themselves such even when not suspected, and is recognised as such by other players.
Well that I think pretty much defines criminal in Argonath.
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So "criminal" is when someone self-proclaims that he is one, no matter what he does in-game?
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Criminal - BE BAD GUY1!
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So "criminal" is when someone self-proclaims that he is one, no matter what he does in-game?
No, because of the last part of my definition which is that the majority of players must recognise him as a criminal. Ingame behaviour will control this.
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No, because of the last part of my definition which is that the majority of players must recognise him as a criminal.
So if someone starts a "criminal" group but the majority of the players calls them deathmatchers (or whatever else), they're not a criminal group?
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So if someone starts a "criminal" group but the majority of the players calls them deathmatchers (or whatever else), they're not a criminal group?
They would still be a criminal group, just a poor one. I wasn't really thinking of that kind of thing, I meant if generally they are recognised as a business group or a group that literally does nothing. Something like i9, for example, barely qualifies as a criminal group.
Being in a large criminal group pretty much automatically makes you fit into my definition of "criminal" which was the reason for my first post. I personally don't really recognise completely ungrouped players as criminals.
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A criminal is a deviant who does illegal activities as well as going against the norms of society...
A member of a criminal group is not necessarily a criminal if they can prove they did not know about the illegal activities happening.
If you know about the criminal activities in the group, then it all depends on the law of Argonath. Some countries say it is illegal if you do not report any criminal activities you know anything about, but other countries allow it, as long as you do not play a part in the crime.
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You shouldn't make a topic like this without others. Anyway, being a criminal is just a label just like being a cop is a label(with scripted support). I feel criminals fall under the civilian genre. Just like police, businessmen and government officials do. The way i roleplay a criminal is by telling people i am a businessman. This is for roleplay purposes and helps keep the law off my back and keep the deathmatchers at bay.
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So "criminal" is when someone self-proclaims that he is one, no matter what he does in-game?
No, they are not.
Criminal - One who knowingly participates in various crimes consistently. These are not those who go and speed all the time, shoot in the air for whoring attention, do reckless driving. Instead, they consistently (or occasionally) do a combination of all or some of participating in drug dealing, carrying out hits, rape/kidnapping/murder, and all of the other fancy stuff. One does not earn the title of a true criminal until they show they are capable of roleplaying as a criminal, rather than just doing the illegal stuff alone.
Criminals can call themselves criminals not by being suspected 24/7, and not even by doing the aforementioned crimes above, but just by being some opposition to law enforcement.
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More questions:
What activities are "criminal" (that when committed, make you a "criminal")?
How does a "criminal" engage/react on police?
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More questions:
How does a "criminal" engage/react on police?
Shot them ofc
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Shot them ofc
shoot. spell fail LOLZ.
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Criminal is someone who is intentionally bringing disruption to the state. Criminals may attack the infrastructure, or prey on civilians for money. Will do unethical things for treasure. Criminals have broken the law for purely selfish reasons.
I do not consider people to be criminals just if they are gang members, or have orange name. The reason for the crime is the most important thing. Selfish reasons for committing a crime is what I would deem being criminal.
Criminals are not looking for fame or death, they do not want to contact the cops, the real criminals are the leaders, the organizers who smartly hide and use others to commit crime for their benefit.
You shouldn't make a topic like this without others. Anyway, being a criminal is just a label just like being a cop is a label(with scripted support). I feel criminals fall under the civilian genre. Just like police, businessmen and government officials do. The way i roleplay a criminal is by telling people i am a businessman. This is for roleplay purposes and helps keep the law off my back and keep the deathmatchers at bay.
= smart criminal
Criminals deal with police as if they were a slight hindrance to their plans. Will cheat their way out of possible, with least loss of profit. I'm not going to send my workers on a suicide shootout with the guns I paid for, especially with the chance that they might snitch if caught. Unless of course.... it is a last resort.
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What activities are "criminal" (that when committed, make you a "criminal")?
How does a "criminal" engage/react on police?
1. Knowingly disrupting the law. This is a broad variety of activities that were mentioned before, such as drug dealing and espionage.
2. The answer very HIGHLY varies, and in fact, a lot of those answers are classified for fairly good reason. For example, if we're in the middle of trying to kidnap someone, and out of the blue, we see a cop in the distance, we will bust STRAIGHT THE FUCK OUT OF THERE. If they snitch on us, we'll just cry "SLANDER, SLANDER."
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The definitions stated so far are debatable, but one thing is for sure, criminal =/= suspect.
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A criminal is a person perpetually recognised by the society of able citizens as a loyal member of the state attorney council who has commited a fair or unjust crime and has been labeled by the law enforcement agency of my butt.
(I have no idea what i just said)
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So is a criminal:
a. someone who does not follow the laws, with a reason (eg. to earn money the less legal ways)
(primary target: break laws; might earn money while at it); or
b. someone who is set to earn money, even if it means not following the laws
(primary target: earn money; might break laws while at it)
??
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So is a criminal:
a. someone who does not follow the laws, with a reason (eg. to earn money the less legal ways)
(primary target: break laws; might earn money while at it); or
b. someone who is set to earn money, even if it means not following the laws
(primary target: earn money; might break laws while at it)
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You really don't know or are just making you a fool?
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You really don't know or are just making you a fool?
Do you really not realize his questions are just to provoke the thoughts of others for some meaningful discussion or are "just making you a fool?"
... :poke:
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There's a difference between organised crime and orangeman crime.
Criminals are those who break the law, but there are several different types of laws to be broken in argo.
There are only two or so groups that work on the basis of organised crime i.e crime for profit, the rest
just use it as an excuse to attack each other and have shootouts with various membergroups of our community.
Not many groups have grasped the concept of profiting from criminal activity which is why criminal organisations are
generally formed.
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You shouldn't make a topic like this without others. Anyway, being a criminal is just a label just like being a cop is a label(with scripted support). I feel criminals fall under the civilian genre. Just like police, businessmen and government officials do. The way i roleplay a criminal is by telling people i am a businessman. This is for roleplay purposes and helps keep the law off my back and keep the deathmatchers at bay.
As a police officer, you are not a civilian while you are on duty.
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More questions:
What activities are "criminal" (that when committed, make you a "criminal")?
How does a "criminal" engage/react on police?
When we role-play kidnappings, robberies, contract killings (yes we actually rp it when if the other person doesn't rp and tries to just kill us), Money laundering, Drug deals, Extortion. The typical criminal stuff, it is all really fun to role-play. Although there are different levels, i mean as a Mobster you would do the above. As a gangsta' you would be more likely to Gangbang on the street, rug deal, do drive-by's on rivals, possibly kidnap a rival group member(we try to do this in kidnappings, as kidnapping police can be pointless...except) or we sometimes may try to catch a fed for information that only a fed knows..can create some spectacular role-play. The list goes on and on, it all depends on who you role-play with and if the idea manages to get in your head.
As far as reacting/engaging with police. I try to often, problem is im being dm'd by them..even if i am unarmed. So it gets extremely difficult to role-play with them. I even tell them via /pm that i am role-playing. They still shoot my car until its on fire then i have to get out and run then they just start shooting me with smg for the excuse of 'evade'..yea evading my death due to my car. So my alternative was to role-play with new cops who seemed t know or have potential at good role-playing. The rest i kill because if i don't they will just kill me. I don't HAVE to /gu to role-play. Until i reach the jail cell, hey this helps prevent other cops from stealing me from the cop trying to role-play with me. Although nowadays i plan on running fraps almost every time i interact with police so now if they try to DM me i will just upload the video and email it. So i plan on trying to role-play with police more often again. No this isn't a bashing, this is just based on my own experiences.
As a police officer, you are not a civilian while you are on duty.
Anyway, being a criminal is just a label just like being a cop is a label(with scripted support).
Read that again. Maybe you will understand that i am correct. You are always some sort of a civilian, just suspects are scripted to orange so they can be killed by cops and be picked out from the general population of white bips(civilians).
Sorry i typed it so bad, got up like 20 minutes ago and im going to school, lol.
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I define "criminal" as a person who has committed a crime.
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I define "criminal" as a person who has committed a crime.
This is the counter definition that a lot of the ones before you disagree with.
In my mind, what you just defined is a suspect, which is not the same as criminal.
Say Pancher went off duty and got wanted for something like speeding - he does not suddenly become a criminal.
A player cannot be both a cop player and a criminal player, for example even when off duty Pancher is still a cop player. The same goes for someone like Cofiliano, who is still a criminal even when not actually suspected.
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In my mind, what you just defined is a suspect, which is not the same as criminal.
I agree.
A player cannot be both a cop player and a criminal player
What if I develop both a cop role and a criminal role and play them both regularly (but non-simultaneously, ie. not a criminalcop)?
Of course it'd depend on what you define as 'criminal' again...
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I've always had the belief that you cannot be both a criminal and a cop. Despite me being a Senior Officer in the ARPD, my leadership of Araatus made me a clear cut criminal.
If you're in a criminal group but play mostly as a cop, then you're just a pretty poor criminal who is on duty all the time.
If you're not in a criminal group and play regularly as cop then you are a cop, even if you get suspected a fair bit. As I've said before, to fit into my definition of "criminal" without being in a criminal group you have to be a rather astonishingly good one, and have connections to those criminal groups - essentially being a one man criminal group. Going on duty a lot makes this impossible.
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Read that again. Maybe you will understand that i am correct. You are always some sort of a civilian, just suspects are scripted to orange so they can be killed by cops and be picked out from the general population of white bips(civilians).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian)
"A civilian under international humanitarian law is a person who is not a member of his or her country's armed forces or other militia or militant organization. The term is also often used colloquially to refer to people who are not members of a particular profession or occupation, especially by law enforcement agencies, which often use rank structures similar to those of military units."
A civilian is not part of any law enforcement agency, and last time I check the ARPD was a law enforcement agency. While on duty, you are not a civilian.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian)
"A civilian under international humanitarian law is a person who is not a member of his or her country's armed forces or other militia or militant organization. The term is also often used colloquially to refer to people who are not members of a particular profession or occupation, especially by law enforcement agencies, which often use rank structures similar to those of military units."
A civilian is not part of any law enforcement agency, and last time I check the ARPD was a law enforcement agency. While on duty, you are not a civilian.
My man you seem to not read previous posts either. This is all going off of obvious postulations(what we think) . So i recommend you not look sht up on wikipedia because 1) We aren't defining Criminal, Cop or Civilian and 2) Wikipedia is a sht source and if you are college bound you should know this. Civilian is not a cop but a cop is classified under a civilian. You keep mixing it up man. Re-read my previous post...thanks.
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Any one man who commits a crime with intent or assumed intent(suspected.. not /su suspect, but suspected.) Until proven innocent.
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2) Wikipedia is a sht source and if you are college bound you should know this. Civilian is not a cop but a cop is classified under a civilian. You keep mixing it up man. Re-read my previous post...thanks.
Its best not to trust a site for doing some sort of project, but usually it is a good source. I usually use wikipedia for the theory, then research it more to find if the information stated on the wiki is true or not.
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A Criminal is a Individual who has been suspected for a Crime or other Illegal Acticity, every Criminal is Innocent until proven Guilty. In-Game Criminals have the chance at Freedom, all they have to do is go through an honest Investigation, and if there story is true they are free, and if not it's off to the Slammer. In Real Life Criminals are trialed in Court by a Jury, and then there fate is decided.
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Stop with the copy-pasta from dictionaries/wikipedias, will you people?
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They think using wikipedia and google in the interwebs make them smart.
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A criminal by my definition is someone who partakes in illegal roleplay MOST of the time. A cop who goes off duty (as has been said) and gets suspected is not a criminal, he is a suspect.
If you have played a substantially longer time as a cop than as a criminal, you are a cop.
If you have played a substantially longer time as a criminal than as a cop, then you are a criminal.
But most "Real" criminals have group affiliations to one of the crime groups on the server.
I for instance, am an undisputed criminal. I have been a criminal from the day I logged on the server and have hardly ever gone on duty. Most of my time and effort goes toward criminal activities, and most of my friends on the server are criminals.
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A criminal by my definition is someone who partakes in illegal roleplay MOST of the time. A cop who goes off duty (as has been said) and gets suspected is not a criminal, he is a suspect.
If you have played a substantially longer time as a cop than as a criminal, you are a cop.
If you have played a substantially longer time as a criminal than as a cop, then you are a criminal.
But most "Real" criminals have group affiliations to one of the crime groups on the server.
I for instance, am an undisputed criminal. I have been a criminal from the day I logged on the server and have hardly ever gone on duty. Most of my time and effort goes toward criminal activities, and most of my friends on the server are criminals.
What about people being 50/50 ? What about those who hardly play but still take the 2?
I think it's up to the person itself to decide he is a criminal or any other role.
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What about people being 50/50 ? What about those who hardly play but still take the 2?
I think it's up to the person itself to decide he is a criminal or any other role.
There is no "50/50" but if there was, they would just be titled as "citizen"
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Stop with the copy-pasta from dictionaries/wikipedias, will you people?
Mine clearly wasn't a copy-pasta.
Copy-pasta sounds delicious...
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My man you seem to not read previous posts either. This is all going off of obvious postulations(what we think) . So i recommend you not look sht up on wikipedia because 1) We aren't defining Criminal, Cop or Civilian and 2) Wikipedia is a sht source and if you are college bound you should know this. Civilian is not a cop but a cop is classified under a civilian. You keep mixing it up man. Re-read my previous post...thanks.
Yea, if you think I should stop them maybe you should stop first? I get annoyed when I correct a piece of information which is incorrect, and they contradict it with no proof. As someone who is college-bound with Maths and Physics, I do not trust anything without evidence.
Wikipedia is not the original source, any information must be referenced from another website.
So a civilian =/= cop but...
a cop = civilian ?
^ As I said, I'm doing Maths, but it doesn't really require someone with a huge knowledge of it to realise that one of those is wrong (yet you said them both)?
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Yea, if you think I should stop them maybe you should stop first? I get annoyed when I correct a piece of information which is incorrect, and they contradict it with no proof. As someone who is college-bound with Maths and Physics, I do not trust anything without evidence.
Wikipedia is not the original source, any information must be referenced from another website.
So a civilian =/= cop but...
a cop = civilian ?
^ As I said, I'm doing Maths, but it doesn't really require someone with a huge knowledge of it to realise that one of those is wrong (yet you said them both)?
If you can't understand this, you are a lost cause and need to check over the topic. I give up after this.
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(Re-add the picture without any troll attachments). Do not provoke others.
Picture is worth a thousand words. So start to choose them.
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Yea, choose a picture without trolling on it (according to the "Removed" sign on it.)
A picture takes a snapshot of one moment, and may not be an accurate description of an incident. Just because you were smiling in the picture, does it mean you were happy? I think not. They can be edited and manipulated to portray something in a certain way, which is why a lot of pictures cannot be trusted.
;)
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@miniman
it was actually a graph, but the image was removed because of the embedded troll face in it. it wasn't a screenshot.
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@miniman
it was actually a graph, but the image was removed because of the embedded troll face in it. it wasn't a screenshot.
Thanks for the info, what did the graph show?
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So a civilian =/= cop but...
a cop = civilian ?
^ As I said, I'm doing Maths, but it doesn't really require someone with a huge knowledge of it to realise that one of those is wrong (yet you said them both)?
Nope, nothing wrong there. What he is basically saying there is that all Cops are civilians but not all civilians are cops, as some of them might be just businessman, firefighters, medics or smth else.
Therefore comes the conclusion that cop = civilian, but civilian =/= cop.
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While a cop is on-duty, is is a cop, not a civilian.
You cannot be both at the same time.
EDIT: Should I remind people of basic maths? Just because you put "Cop is civilian" or "Civilian is cop", it does not mean there is a difference. It's like:
2+1=3
1+2=3
You get the same outcome.
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No.
The point trying to be made is that not all civilians are cops but all cops are civilians. For this statement it is assumed that roles are not mutually exclusive.
I do, however, disagree with that in terms of player roles. A cop off duty is still a cop player. A criminal who is not suspected is still a criminal player. A citizen player (that being a player who is always almost always whitenamed or a non-cop job duty) either on duty or suspected is still a citizen player.
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Stop with the copy-pasta from dictionaries/wikipedias, will you people?
Why not? Mine was not copy pasta, but I think using a dictionary definition for defining something could be the same as someone making one up.
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EDIT: Should I remind people of basic maths? Just because you put "Cop is civilian" or "Civilian is cop", it does not mean there is a difference. It's like:
2+1=3
1+2=3
You get the same outcome.
All women are humans. You are human. Are you also a woman?
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Sometimes, I just love Jubin. :rofl:
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All women are humans. You are human. Are you also a woman?
All humans are women. Your are a woman. Are you also a human?
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All humans are women. Your are a woman. Are you also a human?
All humans aren't women.
Also as miniman is allegedly doing math, then here. This is Xanders point put into mathematical language.
Cops ⊂ Civilians
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EDIT: Should I remind people of basic maths? Just because you put "Cop is civilian" or "Civilian is cop", it does not mean there is a difference. It's like:
2+1=3
1+2=3
You seem to know shit about maths.
It's not "cop plus <something in between> is civilian"
This is simply "Cop is civilian" which means Cop=civilian.
But civilian isn't always cop, so you can't say "civilian is cop", therefore "civilian isn't cop", or civilian =/= cop.
It's more appropirately tho, to say that cops belong to civili--------------
Also as miniman is allegedly doing math, then here. This is Xanders point put into mathematical language.
Cops ⊂ Civilians
Jubin ninjad me.
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I was just trying to make my point that flipping something round doesn't make a difference in those circumstances.
Fine, if you want to nitpick:
y=x2
x2=y
^ See my point?
And just to be annoying, I'll do some twisting of my own:
A cop is not a civilian, but a civilian may choose to go on-duty as a cop.
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I was just trying to make my point that flipping something round doesn't make a difference in those circumstances.
Fine, if you want to nitpick:
y=x2
x2=y
^ See my point?
And just to be annoying, I'll do some twisting of my own:
A cop is not a civilian, but a civilian may choose to go on-duty as a cop.
In those circumstances that were in words explained by Xander, Altair and me it does make a whole lot of a difference. See, this is what I see in Mathematicians. They can calculate and deal with x's and y's but when it comes to the real worlds situation they don't know how to interpret the situation.
A physicist, a biologist and a mathematician sit in a sidewalk cafe, looking at the building across the road. Two people go into the building, then three people come out.
Physicist: "This must be a measuring error!"
Biologist: "This is proof of procreation!"
Mathematician: "If one more person goes into the building, it will be empty!"
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In those circumstances that were in words explained by Xander, Altair and me it does make a whole lot of a difference. See, this is what I see in Mathematicians. They can calculate and deal with x's and y's but when it comes to the real worlds situation they don't know how to interpret the situation.
Lmfao, good joke :lol:
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Therefore comes the conclusion that cop = civilian, but civilian =/= cop.
This is correct. Also miniman, why the f**k are you using math in this? You can't make something like this mathematical, instead use commonsense and logic. Your philosophy sucks, so if we implement your shit ideas to other things...
A is apart of the alphabet, so is B...there fore A = B, since B = Alphabet and A = Alphabet? That just makes you seem extremely stupid. Oh wait here is another....Tunafish = Fish, Salmon = Fish. Therefore in your conclusion...Tunafish = Salmon? Keep it up man...you're fantastic. Oh wait here is another, If i am a cop and yet i am an American Citizen...therefore Cop =/= American Citizen? I think not.
In those circumstances that were in words explained by Xander, Altair and me it does make a whole lot of a difference. See, this is what I see in Mathematicians. They can calculate and deal with x's and y's but when it comes to the real worlds situation they don't know how to interpret the situation.
Very correct, we are taught many different things in school, college, and on the job. We are taught these things to implement them at the necessary times.
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A civilian is not the same thing as a civilian.
As for A=B, it is perfectly possible. Remember, mathematics only uses letters to represent something else :trust:
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Moose = Mammal
Dolphin = Mammal
Moose = A
Dolphin = B
Mammal = C
A = B
B = C
Given mathematical logic like this you must conclude that a moose is, in fact, a dolphin.
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This ain't math class ._.
Meanwhile in the subject about what's a criminal...
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A cop is not a civilian. I recall a previous post in the topic saying it is.
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Moose = Mammal
Dolphin = Mammal
Moose = A
Dolphin = B
Mammal = C
A = B
B = C
Given mathematical logic like this you must conclude that a moose is, in fact, a dolphin.
I liked this alot :lol:
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Moose = Mammal
Dolphin = Mammal
Moose = A
Dolphin = B
Mammal = C
A = B
B = C
Given mathematical logic like this you must conclude that a moose is, in fact, a dolphin.
Exactly my point, but his brain can't handle the truth.
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Grzes,
Why is this topic? any new rules about cops and criminals while I was absent? :rofl:
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Grzes,
Why is this topic? any new rules about cops and criminals while I was absent? :rofl:
Just people talking about different things but naming with same word :)
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While Aragorn was absent, the DNA of moose and dolphins have merged. :lol:
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Talking about DNA merge, everybody heard about this right: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1369977/Sheep-gives-birth-dog-Chinese-farm-Ewe-got-kidding.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1369977/Sheep-gives-birth-dog-Chinese-farm-Ewe-got-kidding.html) ?
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A cop is not a civilian. I recall a previous post in the topic saying it is.
Thank you JDC! Someone with some sense! <3
Moose = Mammal
Dolphin = Mammal
Moose = A
Dolphin = B
Mammal = C
A = B
B = C
Given mathematical logic like this you must conclude that a moose is, in fact, a dolphin.
Lets see, mathematics requires something to be factual. I am saying A/B/C or whatever is a representation of something...you cannot just add it to something randomly.
It would be more like:
A=Moose. Describe a dolphin in terms of A. // You can't just say A=B is Moose=Dolphin, as that truly is stupid. The letters represent something else. A=B (etc) in the terms you described would not work.
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Yes miniman, that is a typo by Panda, as he means that A=C; B=C.
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Ah shit, yes Jubin is correct.
A = C
B = C
Thus you suppose that A = B.
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I think it was called the transitive property of variables in math, or w/e.
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Guys, you're missing the point.
In the example given about Moose/Dolphins etc, the Maths given would be in-correct/could not exist. A in terms of B would not be A=B...but something else instead (which I could not say). As I said, you can say A=Moose, but if B=Dolphin then A=/=B...the equation is completely incorrect, as the two original items represented by the letters are not the same.
I like how no-one is now arguing that a cop is a criminal, and have instead switched to another argument about something slowing becoming less relevant.
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Mate, to be quite honest, you're the one wbho brought maths into it.
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Mate, to be quite honest, you're the one wbho brought maths into it.
D: Don't tell everyone!
Seriously though, I used it to show my meaning. It wasn't just random maths :rofl:
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Remind me again how Maths, Moose's and Dolphin's link into this topic?
This is an epic offtopic here.
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Mate, to be quite honest, you're the one wbho brought maths into it.
Goddamnit, I spent almost 2 minutes trying to type this sentence last night and still managed to do it wrong.
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Remind me again how Maths, Moose's and Dolphin's link into this topic?
This is an epic offtopic here.
Mathematicians are criminals.
Moose's steal from Dolphins.
:roll:
Just joking :P