Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Hardware/Software support => Resolved issues => Topic started by: YS_JAPAN on April 10, 2011, 08:12:47 am
-
I have to buy New PC soon because my laptop is going to die.
So far i am choosing Dell Inspiron 580 Premium Package,Because it has good price and spec around 62,000 JPY(Around $600-620).
Here is the spec:Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Core i5-760(2.80GHz,3.33GHz with Turbo Boost)
6GB DDR3 RAM
1TB 7200rpm HDD
ATI Radeon HD 5450 1GB
I am happy with this for now,because i wouldnt play much game,most are SAMP,Emergency 4,SWAT4 or some old ones.
Also i dont need Sandy Bridge and expensive stuff.
though I have few question about this if anyone has this PC or similar:
- Would GTA IV Runs well with this configuration? I Want to use mods also if possible.
- Does GTA SA Works smoothly without problems in 64 bit?(Like 30-60FPS i want)
- Would 64 bit OS cause problem with Other games?
-
Graphics card is pure bollocks. Otherwise the PC is enough to run even heavy photo/video rendering.
I'm currently running IV on 8800GT 512Mb at 20-50FPS, depending on how much is happening on my screen,
and when you compare my card and that HD5450... well, see yourself from here (http://www.hwcompare.com/458/geforce-8800-gt-512mb-vs-radeon-hd-5450/) and here (http://www.techspot.com/review/244-ati-radeon-hd-5450/page4.html). (in the second link, my card is approx. same performance as 9600GT)
The bottom line? No, you can't run IV on that graphics card. Upgrade that graphics card (would cost approx. $150 to get one
for decent gaming like IV) and you got a nice sweet gaming PC for yourself which you can use for heavy rendering, too.
-
I'm sure you can run GTA IV , but not sure on what FPS.
-
So can i actually run IV with 8800GT or 9600GT with a decent FPS? :o
-
Best way to find out - Play demo .. If there is one.
-
So can i actually run IV with 8800GT or 9600GT with a decent FPS? :o
Depends on the other components :redface:
-
Depends on the other components :redface:
Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.8 GHz
320 GB HDD
2 GB DDR2(Will add more 2GB)
-
Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.8 GHz
320 GB HDD
2 GB DDR2(Will add more 2GB)
Easily... should reach up to 40FPS!
Regards
8800GT 512Mb, E8400 3.0GHz, 3GB DDR2 RAM.
-
Easily... should reach up to 40FPS!
Regards
8800GT 512Mb, E8400 3.0GHz, 3GB DDR2 RAM.
SERIOUS? :O
By th way, In what settings, Low, Low-Medium or Medium?
Post Merge: April 10, 2011, 05:51:47 pm
After Google'ing for some mins, I found that 9600GT is the only Graphics card which can come under my budget.
So, Can it give the same 40 FPS?
-
For GTA IV : Minimum System Requirements
OS: Windows Vista - Service Pack 1 / XP - Service Pack 3
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8Ghz, AMD Athlon X2 64 2.4Ghz
Memory: 1.5GB, 16GB Free Hard Drive Space
Video Card: 256MB NVIDIA 7900 / 256MB ATI X1900
Recommended System Requirements
OS: Windows Vista - Service Pack 1 / XP - Service Pack 3
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4Ghz, AMD Phenom X3 2.1Ghz
Memory: 2 GB (Windows XP) 2.5 GB (Windows Vista)
18 GB Free Hard Drive Space
Video Card: 512MB NVIDIA 8600 / 512MB ATI 3870
For GTA San Andreas :
Minimum System Requirements:
1GHz Intel Pentium III or AMD Athlon Processor
256MB of RAM
8x DVD-ROM Drive
3.6 GB of free Hard Disk space for a minimal install
64MB Video Card with DirectX 9 compatible drivers ("GeForce3" or better)
DirectX 9 compatible Stereo Sound Card
Keyboard & Mouse
Recommended System Requirements
Intel Pentium 4 or AMD Athlon XP processor (or better)
384(+) MB of RAM
16x DVD-ROM drive
4.7 GB of free Hard Disk space for a full install
128(+) MB Video Card with DirectX 9 compatible drivers ("GeForce4" or better)
DirectX 9 compatible Surround Sound Card
Game pad with twin axis analog controls (USB or Joystick Port)
Keyboard & Mouse
-
SERIOUS? :O
By th way, In what settings, Low, Low-Medium or Medium?
Post Merge: April 10, 2011, 05:51:47 pm
After Google'ing for some mins, I found that 9600GT is the only Graphics card which can come under my budget.
So, Can it give the same 40 FPS?
For me, medium. And yes, it can give 40FPS (with 1.0.7.0 patch)
-
thanks for reply guys
i will continue with that configuration,but im gonna buy new GPU sooner or later maybe(i need new power supply too,some review says they need 700W+ power for installing better GPU).
-
Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.8 GHz
2 GB DDR2(Will add more 2GB)
How could those do 40 fps on medium?...... Maybe at 1280x720.
Cause i have less than 40 fps on
Athlon II x3 @ 3.3ghz
4GB DDR3
And im playing on 1680x1050. Resolution is a huge difference. If you get 40 fps on 1024x768 then youll get 20 fps on 1080p (Thats 1920x1080 by the way)
-
I'd suggest you choose another graphics card.
I run GTA IV with medium settings at about 45fps. (1920x1080)
Sapphire HD5670 1gb @ 800Mhz(OC'ed)GPU speed and 1045Mhz(OC'ed) video ram speed
Thought my processor and RAM both suck:
Pentium Dual Core E6700 3.4Ghz(OC'ed)
2GB DDR2-800 RAM @ 850Mhz(oc)
-
Personally I have a Geforce GTX280, about double the performance of Icy's card, this runs San Andreas at a higher spec than its Max at 60FPS (NVidia Control Panel, Ainti Aliasing is now 16x, when Game Max is normally 3x)
You could actually get a slightly worse CPU, and spend the money on a better graphics card and it could perform better, I would recommend AMD Processors as you get more power for your money.
-
Actually 8800GT is compareable with 9800GT because its sam G92 chip. 9600GT is lower than that :)
-
How could those do 40 fps on medium?...... Maybe at 1280x720.
Cause i have less than 40 fps on
Athlon II x3 @ 3.3ghz
4GB DDR3
And im playing on 1680x1050. Resolution is a huge difference. If you get 40 fps on 1024x768 then youll get 20 fps on 1080p (Thats 1920x1080 by the way)
E8400 (Core 2 Duo) and 3GB here and running fine at 40FPS on medium, sometimes even on high...
Intel just makes more powerful processors for less cores and that's the end of it. An example of i5-750
(4 cores) and 1050T (6 cores) which both perform the same, i5 even better on rendering purposes.
-
Alright 9800GT is better than 9600GT, Am i right? I would rather buy 9800 GT then :|
-
Actually 8800GT is compareable with 9800GT because its sam G92 chip. 9600GT is lower than that :)
I have the older version which has no G92 chip.
-
AMD Phenom II X4 955 - CPU
ATI Radeon HD 6800 Series
1TB HDD
6GB DDR3 RAM
I can run it, amirite?
-
AMD Phenom II X4 955 - CPU
ATI Radeon HD 6800 Series
1TB HDD
6GB DDR3 RAM
I can run it, amirite?
Do you even have to ask? :devroll:
-
AMD Phenom II X4 955 - CPU
ATI Radeon HD 6800 Series
1TB HDD
6GB DDR3 RAM
I can run it, amirite?
I doubt it.
-
Yes yes. But dont get a 9 series GPU anymore. Get a GTS 450 or a HD 5770. GTX 460 would be very good if your PSU and budget allows
-
Alright, I see I can be simple here
Use the following website to see if you can run a game, mine will run Crysis 2 according to it :D
System Requirements Lab - Can You Run It? (http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/)
-
According to System Requirements Lab, I can run any game possible on the list ^^
-
According to System Requirements Lab, I can run any game possible on the list ^^
omg u cool
-
According to System Requirements Lab, I can run any game possible on the list ^^
To be honest, if you couldnt youd have a pretty shit PC. Most games only require a dual core at 2.5ghz and a video card with 512mb video memory.
For example the HD 5450 has 1GB Video memory. But still its worse than a 3 year old mid range card with 512mb memory.
"Can i run it" pretty much sucks. It tells you if you can fire up the game but it doesnt mean you can play it smoothly without lagging.
-
To be honest, if you couldnt youd have a pretty shit PC. Most games only require a dual core at 2.5ghz and a video card with 512mb video memory.
For example the HD 5450 has 1GB Video memory. But still its worse than a 3 year old mid range card with 512mb memory.
"Can i run it" pretty much sucks. It tells you if you can fire up the game but it doesnt mean you can play it smoothly without lagging.
Actually I think it shows you whether you can run it on minimum settings.
my old laptop could load up games too good for it, and would lag while playing them.
-
Actually I think it shows you whether you can run it on minimum settings.
Including 1024x768 resolution.
And even if you could run a game with those settings i doubt anyone would want to play on 1024x768..
-
Including 1024x768 resolution.
And even if you could run a game with those settings i doubt anyone would want to play on 1024x768..
Well, San Andreas kinda Maxes out a 1280x(forgot the number) or 1366x(forgot the number) depending on what aspect ratio screen you have, loads of people use 1024x768
Personally I play games like Hawx 2, Max Settings on 1600x900 <3
-
YS, I think a better bet would be to actually build your own PC to your own spec. Just tell me if you're interested and I could configure something for you in a jiffy.
-
Well, San Andreas kinda Maxes out a 1280x(forgot the number) or 1366x(forgot the number) depending on what aspect ratio screen you have, loads of people use 1024x768
Thats a lie. Always played it at 1600x1200 and 1680x1050.
Also San andreas is a very bad example. Its a 6 year old game and almost any PC (Thats not also 5 year old) can run it.
-
Thats a lie. Always played it at 1600x1200 and 1680x1050.
Also San andreas is a very bad example. Its a 6 year old game and almost any PC (Thats not also 5 year old) can run it.
How do you get it higher than 1280x(forgot number)
Its not even appearing in the settings D:
EDIT: My Monitors aspect ratio is different, my monitor is 1600x900, not 1600x1200, it would be squashed
-
By.. doing nothing? Make sure you have the newest drivers for your GPU..
-
By.. doing nothing? Make sure you have the newest drivers for your GPU..
Yes, I have, I installed the card and new drivers like 1 month ago.
Geforce GTX280
-
You got same video card as me. It works good on SA. GTA IV can run good, but not on too high quality. Core i5, is that is that 5 cores?
-
You got same video card as me. It works good on SA. GTA IV can run good, but not on too high quality. Core i5, is that is that 5 cores?
Depends which i5 it is, could be dual or quad.
-
You got same video card as me. It works good on SA. GTA IV can run good, but not on too high quality. Core i5, is that is that 5 cores?
With any i5 processor and GTX280 you shouldnt run just one game,you could run 3 :lol: Something else is problem probably.
-
I think what Dutchy is saying is that he has the same Graphics card, but was saying how well GTA IV works on it.
Dutchy has the same processor as me I think: AMD Athlon II x4 640 3.0GHZ
-
I think what Dutchy is saying is that he has the same Graphics card, but was saying how well GTA IV works on it.
Yes.
Dutchy has the same processor as me I think: AMD Athlon II x4 640 3.0GHZ
Yes.
-
How do you get it higher than 1280x(forgot number)
Its not even appearing in the settings D:
EDIT: My Monitors aspect ratio is different, my monitor is 1600x900, not 1600x1200, it would be squashed
When I installed MTA:SA I was able to get 1920x1080, maybe if you install MTA:SA you will be able to choose those resolutions you want.
-
AMD Phenom II X4 955 - CPU
ATI Radeon HD 6800 Series
1TB HDD
6GB DDR3 RAM
I can run it, amirite?
that cpu sux with stock cooler :|
-
wtf, this is Random, can now use Resolution 1600x900?! wat
-
Will this run GTA IV?
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5550 @ 1.83GHz
2.0 GB RAM
Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family 358MB X3100
-
Will this run GTA IV?
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5550 @ 1.83GHz
2.0 GB RAM
Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family 358MB X3100
I r b doubting it.
The 358mb is taken from your RAM btw.
onboard graphics wont do the deal.
2 bad.
bye.
-
He maybe would just coulda run it but on ulow settings and resolution. I remember few cases where people with laptop kinda like hes,runned game like with kinda same onboard graphics.
-
Will this run GTA IV?
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5550 @ 1.83GHz
2.0 GB RAM
Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family 358MB X3100
The RAM would just reach the limit, but then your graphics has took some of it. :S
-
He maybe would just coulda run it but on ulow settings and resolution. I remember few cases where people with laptop kinda like hes,runned game like with kinda same onboard graphics.
No.
-
YS, I think a better bet would be to actually build your own PC to your own spec. Just tell me if you're interested and I could configure something for you in a jiffy.
I Searched for building similar configuration, but it was expensive than Dell one
By the way,I would like to know What matters in SA Most for using mods,CPU,GPU or RAM?
-
I Searched for building similar configuration, but it was expensive than Dell one
By the way,I would like to know What matters in SA Most for using mods,CPU,GPU or RAM?
Well, you should have a half decent CPU, but the GPU actually does most of the work, what the CPU really does is Run the Physics aspect of the game, however, in Modern Games, such as Assassins Creed 2, and matched with a newer graphics card, the GPU runs it.
To summarise, as I went on a tangent, the Graphics card is the most important, often in Gaming machines, the Graphics card will be half the price of the total build.
-
Also for IVMP 3+GB RAM is almost required because with 2GB in most cases world objects loads very slow. For example i got 2GB and i play SP on mid/high settings easy,but IVMP is whole different case.
-
finally ORDERED this because it had good thing with Price-Spec
Dell XPS 8300
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Intel Core i7 2600 3.4Ghz
DELL ST2430L 24in Monitor 1920x1080
8GB DDR3 RAM
1TB 7200RPM HDD
AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB
Would they go good with IVMP and stuff?
-
Also for IVMP 3+GB RAM is almost required because with 2GB in most cases world objects loads very slow. For example i got 2GB and i play SP on mid/high settings easy,but IVMP is whole different case.
Ya, IVMP sucks for this reason :D.
Hopefully they'll modify IVMP and make it less...
-
finally ORDERED this because it had good thing with Price-Spec
Dell XPS 8300
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Intel Core i7 2600 3.4Ghz
DELL ST2430L 24in Monitor 1920x1080
8GB DDR3 RAM
1TB 7200RPM HDD
AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB
Would they go good with IVMP and stuff?
Looks to me you have a Epic Quad Core, Epic RAM, and a fairly sort of standard Graphics card, yea, I would think you'd run it ^^
-
finally ORDERED this because it had good thing with Price-Spec
Dell XPS 8300
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Intel Core i7 2600 3.4Ghz
DELL ST2430L 24in Monitor 1920x1080
8GB DDR3 RAM
1TB 7200RPM HDD
AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB
Would they go good with IVMP and stuff?
hell ye :D
-
finally ORDERED this because it had good thing with Price-Spec
Dell XPS 8300
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Intel Core i7 2600 3.4Ghz
DELL ST2430L 24in Monitor 1920x1080
8GB DDR3 RAM
1TB 7200RPM HDD
AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB
Would they go good with IVMP and stuff?
top-end CPU and budget video card?
not good
-
top-end CPU and budget video card?
not good
Personally I would have gone for an i5 and made up a better Card with that saving ^^
-
Personally I would have gone for an i5 and made up a better Card with that saving ^^
I'd save another 100euro/dollar to buy i7 instead of i5.
If you are gonna do it, do it right.
-
Im running GTA IV with a macbook pro i7 2.2ghz and AMD Radeon HD 6750M graphics card and with max settings and 1920xblabla i can run 40-60 FPS.
Hope it clears something if not.... ;) ;) ;) ;)
-
Im running GTA IV with a macbook pro i7 2.2ghz and AMD Radeon HD 6750M graphics card and with max settings and 1920xblabla i can run 40-60 FPS.
Hope it clears something if not.... ;) ;) ;) ;)
I'm running a Geforce GTX 280 :razz:
I currently have an AMD Athlon II x4 640 3.0GHZ per core at the moment, nice speeds for normal usage due to it's high clock speed, but on gaming it's not so good as it has about a quarter of the cache the i7's do.
My GPU makes up for it though :hurray:
-
Personally I would have gone for an i5 and made up a better Card with that saving ^^
Lol, You're killing it.
If it is for somebody to buy a good CPU, he must not think what is good but cheap... but what is good and is worth it... In this case... i7 is really really better than i5.. So, saving a little bit more, will not harm you any...
As for the GPU you ordered YS_JAPAN, It's fair enough good.. but yet not the best.. even though GTA IV is a cpu-eating game.. so you wont have many problems I can guess... althought I wish R* had coded the game better... so we could all benefit from it.. but sadly, it's badly written so we do not..
@Joedaman633 (again): How can it make up? Even how good GPU you have, if you don't have a powerful CPU you ain't going nowhere :P.. Yours have 4x512 Unless I'm wrong.. Mine's 6MB but I can't recall how it's shared.
-
Lol, You're killing it.
If it is for somebody to buy a good CPU, he must not think what is good but cheap... but what is good and is worth it... In this case... i7 is really really better than i5.. So, saving a little bit more, will not harm you any...
@Joedaman633 (again): How can it make up? Even how good GPU you have, if you don't have a powerful CPU you ain't going nowhere :P.. Yours have 4x512 Unless I'm wrong.. Mine's 6MB but I can't recall how it's shared.
In most cases, gaming performance is boosted by up to 220 percent in getting a slightly cheaper processor and making up for it with a Better Graphics Card. I read that in an article somewhere :razz:
Yeah, I have 4 x 512kb Cache
-
Thats why overclock potentials grows so fast :) With good cooler you can reach much higher clock values than default,and that would also give a noticed performace boost.
-
But that's not always good..
Better performance(Overclock)? Less life-time of the product ;)..
-
I wouldn't have picked the AMD / ATI / Radeon or w/e they call themselfs stuff. The rest is nice and will certainly run GTAIV
-
That phrase is used quite long but it seems that it isnt truth at all. Its just used to somehow prevent at least a bunch of people to do that stuff and force em buy more expencive one. For example,that Processor you got in sign,my buddy have for approx. 2 years,and it works perfectlly on 4.1GHz without any isusse and overheat cooled by Megahalems cooler. Basically,there is whole bunch of Processors as in Intel and AMD,that has same basic core and only changed clock for a bit. Q9200/300/400 = same thing :) Same with E5200/300/400 series.So why then just dont buy cheaper one and clock it :D
Even Motherboard suppliers has changed alot in their developing of motherboards,when they saw how far this gone. There is whole set of additions based on new chipsets that encouraging overclock :) Same goes for RAM Memory sellers.
:ps: Ughhh,i went sooo far from Topic :$ Anyway,Graphics seem weak for the rest of machine :)
-
But that's not always good..
Better performance(Overclock)? Less life-time of the product ;)..
Not Necessarily
The only reasons that your Component would have less life:
1. Overheating
2. Raising the v core too much. (would not let me write v core together, it said *deleted* :o )
If you understand the basics, you know that you can raise the clock a certain extent, then to push the speed further, you must increase the voltage provided to the Processor, this is the main cause of it heating up.
If you however only do relatively minor overclocks, you should not see any less life from the component.
My processor is rated at 3.0GHZ, and without raising the voltage, stably overclocking, it could probably hit 3.3GHZ, not much, but still a 10 percent improvement, 0.3GHZ extra on each core (3) is 1.2GHZ, thats effectively adding another (Relatively small) processor into the mix.