Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Daco on April 19, 2011, 05:22:04 pm
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If you only discuss the reset thing - many will be against...
Why not to look from other side: there will be created a new gamemode, with new systems, new fun, new possibilities... System itself will not be the same as it is now...
And here is a simple choice:
either we stick to the current scripts and just do small add-ons, or we move on one level more of Argonath World, and that will ask the sacrifice...
Ready to get rid of your millions which you actually do not use? Then RS5 will be a new gamemode system... Not ready? Then we just continue sit on RS4 with small additions...
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What happens now?
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Seems to me we will go through a reset. :)
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I hope :pop:
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A reset would be wonderful. However, it would be long overdue.
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Any convincing decision from the owners?
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By reset do you mean money reset or do all your assets get reset aswell?
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By reset do you mean money reset or do all your assets get reset aswell?
Everything. I suppose only your whenmade will remain.
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Bring up RS 5.0!
By the way, where's that quoted from?
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Bring up RS 5.0!
By the way, where's that quoted from?
Your thread.
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The result of votes was 50% Y | 50 N. So nobody knows if there will be a reset or not. I would stay neutral for it.
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The result of votes was 50% Y | 50 N. So nobody knows if there will be a reset or not. I would stay neutral for it.
That poll wasn't really an effective way to cast votes. People were probably making new accounts for it anyway.
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I was just curious on what people thought about that idea..
I don't think it had any effect on the owner's decision.
A new Argonath... Maybe?
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A new Argonath... Maybe?
I doubt.
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Meh.
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I doubt.
Argonath stays Argonath.
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If that thing Ron wrote I could give up my assets car money whatever.
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Admins should give a deadline or something, so the players will have a chance to spend spend spend.
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What the hell is wrong with trying out new roles once in a while?
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Would be great if we can all get payday of $1,000,000 before RS5. Only problem is inflation, BIG TIME.
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What the hell is wrong with trying out new roles once in a while?
This.
You need to experience all sort of role plays. Not limit yourself to one constant boring "sketch".
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I agree with Skan :conf:
See 1923 (?), hyper-inflation in Germany. :razz:
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Now it feels more like a job... It's a must to roleplay other characters now? Why can't I have fun and rp my old "sketch"? And also, I can bet that nothing will change after that reset anyway. Resetting is just use-less but you can always give it a shot. I don't really care anyway, do what's the best for the server...
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What the hell is wrong with trying out new roles once in a while?
Hi, just wondering what you meant by that. I honestly don't understand what your getting to.
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Reset just on SA:MP?
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Reset just on SA:MP?
>SA:MP General
>RS5
>youwentfullretard.jpg
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>SA:MP General
>RS5
>youwentfullretard.jpg
It can be on IV:MP, VC:MP.. Smart boy.
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It can be on IV:MP, VC:MP.. Smart boy.
>RS5
Are you mentally challenged or what?
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>RS5
Are you mentally challenged or what?
Yes, blame my parents.
It will be unfair if just SA:MP be reseted and the others don't.
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It will be unfair if just SA:MP be reseted and the others don't.
The reset is because of RS 5.0...
Why would they reset VCMP, MTASA and etc?
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There should never be a reset once a server has a non-beta script.
Never.
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Not to mention, this reset will reduce alot of criminal activity since everyone would want to work for the law which get money. Most likely see Taxi's/Cops etc..
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@Skan:
Actually, crime is a business which can make much money, so the inverse will happen.
I would be willing to sacrifice my assets if we are to move to a higher level, but people are going to hoard more to compensate and race to get all the good properties first.
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I'm not "smart" at pc but i belive you can save fails. So how about they would save fails afther what reset server to rs5 and if it won't go well just put back old files and let be Argonath how it where. If people can't decide what would be better why not just try it and if what make big backup file to put Argonath in old road .
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I'm not "smart" at pc but i belive you can save fails. So how about they would save fails afther what reset server to rs5 and if it won't go well just put back old files and let be Argonath how it where. If people can't decide what would be better why not just try it and if what make big backup file to put Argonath in old road .
They're going to put up a whole new script system. Same happened before RS3.
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I agree with Skan :conf:
See 1923 (?), hyper-inflation in Germany. :razz:
(http://i.colnect.net/images/f/590/456/500000000-Dollars.jpg)
Currently in Zimbawe
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Everything. I suppose only your whenmade will remain.
Wait, by reset, does it mean you will lose everything you own? Or just go back to a later date?
Because it means I will lose 3 vehicles and a nice house in Rodeo, aswell as a truckload of weed :(
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There should never be a reset once a server has a non-beta script.
Never.
Okay, so you prefer to stay at RS4 with some small addons.
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(http://i.colnect.net/images/f/590/456/500000000-Dollars.jpg)
Currently in Zimbawe
Ha ha, they don't have those in Zimbabwe >_>
EDIT: Hang on, Mandela gave the note to that country, I just remebered.
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Okay, so you prefer to stay at RS4 with some small addons.
If that is the requirement for not having a reset, then that is correct.
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I would rather go through a reset than stick around missing RS5. Rebuilding what you earned (On the internet) will be much more interesting, than just continuing with the piles of cash and properties people have collected.
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I voted yes for the reset..
but Panda has a point; players can be obsesssed to earn everything they lost and that could be the chaos.
Maybe that's why many said "No"
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Like the 'Mafias' HQ, cars... Those stuff.
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If that is the requirement for not having a reset, then that is correct.
You have no idea how cool RS5 will be.
I'd rather have a reset than not moving to RS5.
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so RS5 is around the corner? or we discussing this pointlessly
:ps: lets reset stuff
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You have no idea how cool RS5 will be.
I'd rather have a reset than not moving to RS5.
What's so good about RS5?
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Just reset it already, before any more moaning appears :)
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Resetting may offer more challenge when playing, and have something to look forward to, rather than have it all, already.
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So, when this is going to happen ? xD
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RS5 is quite a long way off, seeing as they have not even started Alpha Testing yet. Currently they are in the stage of putting the Game Mode concept design together, piece by piece.
Another question about the reset. Will all banned IPs stay banned?
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About your question JDC.
I hope the banned IP's can be cleared so other players can go on with a new fresh start in the gamemode.
And I support the reset as I myself am not very rich, but I want to start from the beginning like everyone else.
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just do this thing already
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I speculate that RS5 won't be out for another year, at least.
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I am not against giving CERTAIN banned players a chance to redeem themselves.
However, the number of banned IPs has reached more than 8,000, as provided by Gimli's statistics. Many of those are merciless rogues who will not hesitate to hack admin accounts and attack the server using DDoS. Some of them are just unredeemable.
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I speculate that RS5 won't be out for another year, at least.
aaawww...
i thought its coming soon :neutral:
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I don't think much ''improvements'' can be made after RS4. I'm just fine in SAMP really. Why do we need anything else? We've got the best, let's keep it that way. Also, IF RS5 comes, why not just copy the player files?. I don't see what the big problem is. Those who have much money want to keep it and those who don't, for some reason, want the others to lose it? I really don't think anyone voted on that poll for the reason ''I want a fair restart''.
Argonath SAMP has a lot of uniqueness. One of them is its economy, well known drug barrons, well know millionairs. Eventually they will all regain their fortune, it's not hard if you're dedicated, so ''fair restart'' is allready proven wrong here. Everyone has one when they register. And the rich people do not limit anyone to also become rich. USSUALLY IT'S THE OPPOSITE ; For instance, I ussually give a huge tip to cab drivers, because I like to help them. I, and many other ''rich people'', give atleast 10 ''restarts'' to random people every week.
Eventually ( 2 weeks ), There will allready be a new economy with new millionairs ( 90 percent chance that these will be the same people ), and people will want these ''restarts'' sooner and sooner. Is this your sence of being fair? Any new player can work his way to the top, it really isn't that hard, go ask ''rich people'' ingame.
When I place myself into someone who doesn't have any stats but plays for quite a while, I can see that this looks like a good idea to them. It looks fresh. But in reality, Nothing will change for you, nothing will change for anyone, appart from the fact that the current millionairs will have to work a couple of weeks to regain their fortune.
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I don't think much ''improvements'' can be made after RS4. I'm just fine in SAMP really. Why do we need anything else? We've got the best, let's keep it that way. Also, IF RS5 comes, why not just copy the player files?. I don't see what the big problem is. Those who have much money want to keep it and those who don't, for some reason, want the others to lose it? I really don't think anyone voted on that poll for the reason ''I want a fair restart''.
What about an improvement which would make people actually leave Los Santos and spread them all around San Andreas?
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Che - "It's time for another revolution"
Time for changes...
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A new Argonath... Maybe?
Maybe better, an old Argonath.
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What about an improvement which would make people actually leave Los Santos and spread them all around San Andreas?
Huh? What does that have to do with this?
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Huh? What does that have to do with this?
You'll see, believe me : )
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i for one do not want to lose all the money i have beacuse i for one use my cash and its took me so loong to make. and my cars and house and weapons that took me years to build up. if we talked about what will be in the RS5 script then i could think about it.
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What about an improvement which would make people actually leave Los Santos and spread them all around San Andreas?
We dont have that much players to be spread all over map :) With 120-130 players (In best cases) its barely enough even for LS alone.
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Well, some of you guyz could stop thinking about money for a minute to see how funny would be to reborn again in Argonath? :)
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I'm more than fine with a reset because I honestly do not lust over in-game cash and assets.
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I personally wouldn't really care, considering I'm broke even though I've been playing since 09. -.-
Anyway, will we be able to at least have our /whenmade?
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Money is not needed to RP, only your imagination limits it. Money is mainly a tool nofing else. not a needed tool
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I personally wouldn't really care, considering I'm broke even though I've been playing since 09. -.-
Anyway, will we be able to at least have our /whenmade?
Why would you want to look superior to others ?
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Guys, who the hell care for money or even /whenmade, we are here to have fun and RP , money is nothing for me..
So my vote will be yes for sure.
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Screw whenmade, I remember the exact dates on which I joined Argonath anyway.
As someone who had a glimpse of some revolutionary RS5 concepts, I can tell all of you here that there will indeed be features that will encourage or cause players to spread over the map. What those improvements are, I cannot say here... wait until the reset.
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Did they actually announce the reset?
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Gas Station 9 - SOLD!
Stracci HQ - SOLD!
Corleone HQ - SOLD!
Gvardia HQ, and Cofiliani's house SOLD!
EVERYTHING WILL BE GONE!
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Jesus christ! I vote for a reset, where everyone starts with a minus of ATLEAST 100k! Just look how crazy people have gone because of loosing some virtual money or properties.. It's almost sad to see...
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It is time to end the speculations, which we have allowed in order to see how the community will react.
First of all, the idea to make a full reset for RS5 has been mine, with support of Gimli.
The reason is that we want to make a new account system, that will make it easier to get information and protect against intrusions and hacks. For this, we would need to make a major operation regarding the current accounts, as the old data would have to be read in to the new system, with chances of errors.
If there would be a small error, it would mean us spending days or weeks to sort out who has what, instead of fixing script bugs and updating new features.
The problem is of course that we should give something in return. For those who remember 2007, we made that time a loan system so players could open a business with little money, and made sure there was extra man power to set all houses in short time.
If we choose a full reset, then that does not mean active and old players will lose their name or automatically lose their long-standing business. However it will mean that those players who are not active will lose out, in favour of the active players.
How exactly this will be done is something we do not know yet, as most of it is at this time just an idea brewing in my mind. But rest assured, wwhen the time comes you will be informed and get all chances to retain landmarks.
We will now close all reset topics, until the time RS5 will go in to beta testing. Before that time, you have nothing to worry about.