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Title: Time Travel
Post by: MisterSjeiks on May 10, 2011, 03:34:27 pm
Just watched a movie about it, mindfucked.

So uhhh, if you go to the future and meet yourself, wouldn't the future you know that you were coming since IT IS YOU, thus he/you should have the same knowledge and memory. But I mean like, the fuck?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?


Back To The Future 1 - Original Teaser (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsQRLkL8OlQ#)



Discuss.
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: Alarba on May 10, 2011, 03:38:25 pm
Not possible.
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: Dexter on May 10, 2011, 03:41:00 pm
Not possible.

 :lol:

You realize that you just broke dreams of some of us? :P
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: MisterSjeiks on May 10, 2011, 03:57:41 pm
Not possible.
No shit.
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: dtlove on May 10, 2011, 05:03:10 pm
Theoretically it is possible,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_travel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_travel)

But I'm not going to say any more than that.
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: MisterSjeiks on May 10, 2011, 05:56:05 pm
Donnie darko trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wqVHjK2bQs#ws)
Watch this movie to get mindfucked, mindraped, mindkilled, mindfaked, mindstolen, mindborn, mindgamed.

Post Merge: May 10, 2011, 05:56:32 pm
And yes, it is about time-travel(-ish) stuff.
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: Gandalf on May 10, 2011, 06:26:31 pm
By time traveling you create a parallel universe and start playing Coutnerstrike...
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: MisterSjeiks on May 10, 2011, 06:27:25 pm
By time traveling you create a parallel universe and start playing Coutnerstrike...
I see what you did there.
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: Alsatian on May 10, 2011, 11:51:46 pm
By time traveling you create a parallel universe and start playing Coutnerstrike...

Very discrete.  :lol:
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: MrFrancis on May 11, 2011, 01:42:56 am
By time traveling you create a parallel universe and start playing Paruni SA:MP
fixed
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: TruthSvensson on May 11, 2011, 06:30:28 pm
More interesting thing is that you haven't watched Back to the Future or Donnie Darko before
And my favorite Sci-Fi's are Time Travel ones
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: MisterSjeiks on May 11, 2011, 06:33:57 pm
More interesting thing is that you haven't watched Back to the Future or Donnie Darko before
I did watch them, just decided to bring 'em up, because when I think about movies about time traveling I think of these two.
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: Caltson on May 11, 2011, 10:41:27 pm
People declared you crazy 200 years ago if you said we could travel at speeds of 900km/h. People declared you crazy if elements of humans will be dominating the earth's surface. Maybe in another dozens of years it might be possible. Theoretically, it is possible, but I doubt it's going to be achievable, as you must travel a few light-years back in time to experience the past. It sounds really Sci-Fi, but with the advanced technology that's coming our way, it should be possible sooner or later.
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: Jubin on May 12, 2011, 01:14:53 am
...Theoretically, it is possible, but I doubt it's going to be achievable, as you must travel a few light-years back in time to experience the past...
Care to explain yourself?
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: Hircine on May 12, 2011, 01:42:33 am
No and it never should be allowed if it is possible, unless some of the theorys are true, that it would be impossible to change the past as something would always prevent you from doing so.
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: Boromir on May 12, 2011, 03:14:18 am
Actually, no... It is NOT theoritically possible.
Time diliation is not about going to the past/future to meet "yourself".
It is about difference of elapsed time between two different people.

It is actually happening all the time among us but its effect is too small that we cannot observe it.
To state it more clearly for those who havent taken college-level physics courses with labs,
it is like, 100000 years for people living on the Earth can actually be only 10 years for other people in other spaces.

So, basically, if we can exploit the theories of special relativity and time dilation more expansively, then astronauts will not have to age to death while traveling the space. But, yeah, even if they successfully get to another planet in only one week or so, it will be like 100 years or even more for other people on the earth.

Thus, you've got wrong conceptions about time traveling here..
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: Exterminator on May 12, 2011, 06:39:49 am
Not possible.

Its aready possible, matter of fact if u got bill gates like cash you can probably go like 50-500 years into the future, cant come back tho
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: Caltson on May 12, 2011, 07:52:09 am
Actually, no... It is NOT theoritically possible.
Time diliation is not about going to the past/future to meet "yourself".
It is about difference of elapsed time between two different people.

It is actually happening all the time among us but its effect is too small that we cannot observe it.
To state it more clearly for those who havent taken college-level physics courses with labs,
it is like, 100000 years for people living on the Earth can actually be only 10 years for other people in other spaces.

So, basically, if we can exploit the theories of special relativity and time dilation more expansively, then astronauts will not have to age to death while traveling the space. But, yeah, even if they successfully get to another planet in only one week or so, it will be like 100 years or even more for other people on the earth.

Thus, you've got wrong conceptions about time traveling here..

You forget humans manipulate. Basicly we can't fly either, but we can find ourselves in the sky with several methods. Even jetpacks are being made (for military use).... Time-Travelling is for our current technology completely out of question, but i'm sure something will be found. However, the effect would be rather small like a few milliseconds than a few years when staying on earth.
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: JDC on May 12, 2011, 04:25:17 pm
With our current technological levels and understanding of physics, the only way to time travel to the past would be to create a space that can receive information from the future, and of course equipment that can manipulate that space. Once achieved, information can only be sent as far back as the moment the equipment was first turned on, or first made suitable enough to receive information transmitted into that space. Of course, this means you cannot travel back in time to meet your young grandfather who was running from the bombs in WWII.

Of course, to transcend that, we will need better ways to manipulate physics...
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: Jubin on May 12, 2011, 07:13:11 pm
You forget humans manipulate. Basicly we can't fly either, but we can find ourselves in the sky with several methods. Even jetpacks are being made (for military use).... Time-Travelling is for our current technology completely out of question, but i'm sure something will be found. However, the effect would be rather small like a few milliseconds than a few years when staying on earth.
Your analogy is false.
With our current technological levels and understanding of physics, the only way to time travel to the past would be to create a space that can receive information from the future, and of course equipment that can manipulate that space. Once achieved, information can only be sent as far back as the moment the equipment was first turned on, or first made suitable enough to receive information transmitted into that space. Of course, this means you cannot travel back in time to meet your young grandfather who was running from the bombs in WWII.

Of course, to transcend that, we will need better ways to manipulate physics...
Create space? Also, you can't manipulate physics.
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: JDC on May 12, 2011, 07:16:51 pm
By creating a certain kind of space which can be affected by certain kinds of equipment, I do not mean creating new space in every sense of the word. I'm talking about altering a certain part of space so it can be utilized for manipulation by technology, such as the currently sci-fi concept of warping space like a fabric.
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: MisterSjeiks on May 12, 2011, 08:47:41 pm
Holy shit, what have I started?!
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: dtlove on May 12, 2011, 08:53:58 pm
The topic certainly is interesting. And the theory's behind it all is amazing.
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: Jubin on May 12, 2011, 10:48:28 pm
By creating a certain kind of space which can be affected by certain kinds of equipment, I do not mean creating new space in every sense of the word. I'm talking about altering a certain part of space so it can be utilized for manipulation by technology, such as the currently sci-fi concept of warping space like a fabric.
Do you mean a wormhole?
(http://www.daviddarling.info/images/wormhole_graphic.jpg)
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: dtlove on May 13, 2011, 01:45:42 am
Do you mean a wormhole?
(http://www.daviddarling.info/images/wormhole_graphic.jpg)

Whereas the idea of using a wormhole could work, the general idea of a wormhole is to generally fold space, making traveling to a certain place faster.

There are more theory's that make better sense than this method.
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: JDC on May 13, 2011, 01:48:11 am
A wormhole could work (assuming it can lead to a different time other than one simultaneously running on both sides of the hole), or something else that distorts the flow of space (and so, of time) in the affected area. You will need technology powerful enough to keep that space "open" / altered long enough to get through, and even then no one is sure if these lead to other parts of our universe, other times of our universe, or out of the damn universe altogether.
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: dtlove on May 13, 2011, 01:51:11 am
A wormhole could work (assuming it can lead to a different time other than one simultaneously running on both sides of the hole), or something else that distorts the flow of space (and so, of time) in the affected area. You will need technology powerful enough to keep that space "open" / altered long enough to get through, and even then no one is sure if these lead to other parts of our universe, other times of our universe, or out of the damn universe altogether.

Yeah, it's a matter of keeping it open and safe for use, otherwise, an unstable wormhole could lead to a whole range of things, (planetary shift, black holes and so on.).
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: Freedom on May 15, 2011, 05:17:11 pm
Technically, we are already traveling in time, 1 second per second.
Prove me wrong!
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: Jubin on May 15, 2011, 10:19:56 pm


There are more theory's that make better sense than this method.
And those theories are?
Title: Re: Time Travel
Post by: JRonnie on May 16, 2011, 12:41:50 am
I believe in time traveling, that's all I would say.

*Evil Laugh*
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