Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Mikezor on June 04, 2011, 09:31:21 am
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Everyone hates it when a admin bans someone or someone for others things it gets situations after situation and il want that to solve it with some handy tips people hating admins if they do something was not right in their eyes
Here a good procedure for the situations
:cop:
it should be for what simply reason like deathmatching someone
Warn / Kick / Tempban / Ban thats the standard procedure in my eyes
in bad cases hackers warn the person to turn it off if not ban ( every players needs to get respect, and his chance )
Mass DM's situations or anything what means with mass - Finanly Last Warn to stopt directly if not /tempban 1 hour
Flaming or Insulting - Ask the one what he said and telles him to please stop with this if he doesnt stop tempban 30 minutes
Cophunting or anything hunting - ask to stop with this because this is not nice like that if he doesnt listen /kick
Angry People? who is flaming like a chicken - Give them a warn the chance to stop if not tell him he gets a cooldown period 30 minutes tempban
Abusing Commands or others rights: tell him this is strictly forbidden give him a chance to stop (warn) if not tempban 1 hour if still not /ban
Carjacking or fucking up a roleplay: tell him why he does it speak with him so he can learn from you as Admin! Give him a warn and remove him from the scene
Moaning People Who has not their day: Tell them to please stop if not kick or tempban 30 mins.
Provoking People tell the guy to stop it if not kick or tempban
Like this situations we see almost everyday in Argonath this should be a good procedure for admins and they will get their respect from others and everyone this will not make a chaos like everyday in argonath and banning people for sometimes nothing
If we start with this procedure we will get a Much Better Cool Server with less Situations or other shit
Admins have to RESPECT THE PLAYERS
EVERYONE NEEDS TO SHOW RESPECT!
Ray Brown
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Admins know what they do, They get trained by people experiencing themselves in administration since 2005..
Second, If people can't bring up some respect for an administrator we got a serious problem with jealous people and are in line to be banned as next anyway. Neither they spend soo much time being obsessed with one game, wanting that administrator position so hard (iMunna) that when it doesn't work out as planned, you go in rage mad mode.
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Excuse me, but we know what to do..evrything you posted, is NOT what we do, we ALWAYS try to talk verbaly, before using any commands..exept with hackers ofcourse..
I also wish to reidrect you to this topic (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=45991.0)
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"Here's how admins should work:..." Excuse me, but I belive moderators/admins are told what to do when they get the rights, and if they do not do it the way it should, they won't be in the admin team. If the admins don't respect someone, this might be because of a long history of rulebreaking/shitty behavior. People who work well together with them, who earned a respected name on Argonath, get respected.
Tips to admins to be better and show respect? You mean, kicking people who DM someone, banning weapon hackers who sell weapons(This gets you banned too if you buy it). An admin gave me a free freeway in the old system, they used to cost 300k+, people even traded Mavericks for them. This admin gave me a free one, even paid the value(40k) just because I knew the rules. Therefore I think admins do their jobs perfectly, but everyone makes mistakes, that's why people get "Tai'd" or banned for something that should be just a /kick, working as an admin is hard, so he might get mad if you start bullshiting him, so they /ban you.
Be a better player is the Tip I give to people so admins show respect.
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All said before :) Nothing to add ;)
Sometimes we do things you CAN'T see Mikezor, which (for you and other players) seems we punish straight away...
We uses (like you) PM, local chat, other admin commands, to communicate with the 'suspicious' person. ;)
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Feel All Admins to reply to this this is a perfect procedure to keep argonath calm and cool so
Il hope that you all takes these tips up in your head!
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Did you read what we said? :lol: We DO allready ;)
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you guys never did that so please stop lieing please. you admins think it
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Damn it, did owners hire another guy to teach us our job? OMG NOOOOOO.
No but seriously, we know how to do our job, each of us have a different style, one of his own ;).
Think by the other side, if someone doesn't know the job, he wouldn't be let to keep his rank at first place ;). (That does not mean that we do not make mistakes, we all do! But we learn through them!)
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Everyone hates it when a admin bans someone or someone for others things it gets situations after situation and il want that to solve it with some handy tips people hating admins if they do something was not right in their eyes
Here a good procedure for the situations
:cop:
it should be for what simply reason like deathmatching someone
Warn / Kick / Tempban / Ban thats the standard procedure in my eyes
in bad cases hackers warn the person to turn it off if not ban ( every players needs to get respect, and his chance )
Mass DM's situations or anything what means with mass - Finanly Last Warn to stopt directly if not /tempban 1 hour
Flaming or Insulting - Ask the one what he said and telles him to please stop with this if he doesnt stop tempban 30 minutes
Cophunting or anything hunting - ask to stop with this because this is not nice like that if he doesnt listen /kick
Angry People? who is flaming like a chicken - Give them a warn the chance to stop if not tell him he gets a cooldown period 30 minutes tempban
Abusing Commands or others rights: tell him this is strictly forbidden give him a chance to stop (warn) if not tempban 1 hour if still not /ban
Carjacking or f**king up a roleplay: tell him why he does it speak with him so he can learn from you as Admin! Give him a warn and remove him from the scene
Moaning People Who has not their day: Tell them to please stop if not kick or tempban 30 mins.
Provoking People tell the guy to stop it if not kick or tempban
Like this situations we see almost everyday in Argonath this should be a good procedure for admins and they will get their respect from others and everyone this will not make a chaos like everyday in argonath and banning people for sometimes nothing
If we start with this procedure we will get a Much Better Cool Server with less Situations or other shit
Admins have to RESPECT THE PLAYERS
EVERYONE NEEDS TO SHOW RESPECT!
Ray Brown
seriously...?
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you guys never did that so please stop lieing please. you admins think it
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I'm not going to write something I don't ment :(
I realy do, and if you think I'm not: please fill in a complain at the known e-mail... this seems more to a complain to 1or 2 individuals than the 'whole admins team' :(
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If all admins does that what il said we will get a clean and cool friendly server no more shit
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Mike have you been an admin? I seriously think you have no idea how it is, since administrators really do it already.
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If all admins does that what il said we will get a clean and cool friendly server no more shit
Sorry, but we pretty much already do all that you said.
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Refrain from posting these frankly insignificant topics.
If all admins does that what il said we will get a clean and cool friendly server no more shit
What do you know, really.
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Haha you all admins says we all already do
you all dont do it!
you all KICKS PEOPLE AND BAN PEOPLE FOR NOTHING LOOK BANLIST!
STOP LIEING ADMINS!
This makes me angry
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No because it is true. Seriously think before you post.. They are not lieing, it is the truth..
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Can you state you accoustions with PROOFS?
I hardly doubt it...
and the unban request; "I sware I didn't do anything" and "You ban me for nothing" mostly turn into something "Yes, I'll never do it again".. then tell me, who is wRONg here?
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Fabrizio, you ferget you have been banned 7 times?
So YOU are saying how WE shoud do our job?..the job we already DO like you sayd..
If we wherent capable of handeling such responsebilety, we woudent be a admin ik ethe first place!
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seriously...?
Was it really necessary to quote his whole topic? :roll:
Administrators know how to do their job.
What ticks me off is that they sometimes warn and kick and the reasons are "Comedian" or "Go away" or "Bye" etc etc.
Sure, they can add a custom reason into the field AS LONG as the REAL reason is ALSO in it, so that the player understands WHY he is punished.
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Excuse me, but we know what to do..evrything you posted, is NOT what we do, we ALWAYS try to talk verbaly, before using any commands..exept with hackers ofcourse..
I also wish to reidrect you to this topic (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=45991.0)
What the fuck man? Then you're a big ass fat fucking lier. Remember the time I gave a friend a lift with a helicopter to a taller building, then got out. You kicked me INSTANTLY for SHOOTING AT COPS.
Mikez0r I totally fucking agree with you.
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Haha you all admins says we all already do
you all dont do it!
you all KICKS PEOPLE AND BAN PEOPLE FOR NOTHING LOOK BANLIST!
STOP LIEING ADMINS!
This makes me angry
It's not their fault you always get kicked and now you blame them.
Change your attitude and you have nothing to do with admins....then they don't have ANYTHING to do with you.
Btw, admins don't have to change theirselves towards YOUR way! You should change it towards the way it's appreciated by the admins..
AND YEAH OMFG ADMINS NEVER TALK TO ME, STRAIGHT /KICK!!! :( :( :( :( .... THEY WITCHHUNT :( :( :(.
...not really.
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When I took a look in this topic I was like... Motherf**king bullshit. Are you even f**king serious? And that "Show Respect!". Exact those words. I mean, what the f**k man?!! Look at your attitude, you really look like you're showing some damn respect. Learn to respect first, then tell others.
Lets put this straight, admins are making un-fair punishments? All those who say can get the f**k out of this community. Seriously, you're telling them what to do? If you do that job, you'd be f**king tired. These admins do hard work to keep the server safe and you. You just piss them off.
The punishments are fine how they are. I've been banned (x3) and I know what they do before punishing. How these admins work is great. If you go in another XX server. The punishments their are very strict. They get banned for years and jailed for months.
To all those who are with this Mikez0r just seems to amaze me with how foolish he is.
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What the f**k man? Then you're a big ass fat f**king lier. Remember the time I gave a friend a lift with a helicopter to a taller building, then got out. You kicked me INSTANTLY for SHOOTING AT COPS.
Mikez0r I totally f**king agree with you.
Good luck in your new community I guess.
One where admins do not give a fuck about you and directly BAN you.... you are lucky on Argonath man, admins are totally NOT that strict compared towards other servers because they rather TALK then use commands.
Go to another server and I bet you get banned within 1 week.
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On other servers, you get banned for 3-6 months...
On other servers, you get t-banned for 1 day to 2 weeks
On other servers, you get ajailed for 1-5 hours and you can't be AFK.
On other servers, you get kicked on small things
On other servers, /warn is rarely or never used.
And the worst of all, on other servers you get (t)banned/ajailed/kicked/warned directly.
You're one of the most f**king lucky guys. Straighten your attitude up.
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What the f**k man? Then you're a big ass fat f**king lier. Remember the time I gave a friend a lift with a helicopter to a taller building, then got out. You kicked me INSTANTLY for SHOOTING AT COPS.
Mikez0r I totally f**king agree with you.
Yep, explains why you gave him a lift with a m4 to cops
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Mikezor, here is an another example.
What you see:
player1: fuck u
player1 was tempbanned for 30minutes: cool down and then come back.
What we see:
player1 local chat: fuck you u retarded shit
player1 local chat: fuck you do your work u noob
Player1 PMs you: Stupid admin do your work!!111
player1: fuck u
player1 was tempbanned for 30minutes: cool down and then come back.
There is alot of things you dont see that we see, dont think we just throw warns/kicks/bans at whoever we want to.
Admins is chosen by the leaders of this community, and for a reason.. Seeing players who tells the administration what to do is something i dont really like, if an admin does an mistake and a player corrects him calmly, then there is something diffrent.
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Yep, explains why you gave him a lift with a m4 to cops
You kicked me for shooting, I didn't shoot, only AIDED him by driving an airborne vehicle.
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And who are you to tell us how to do our jobs? Maybe for instance you should try to behave so we don't have to punish.. You guys ain't 5 no more, try to effing behave for once in a while...
First of all - no need to be told every day "do not disrespect" or the like for there to be a ban for constant disrespect. Players here are not retarded to be reminded every day not to disrespect, before a permanent ban. Once told, don't test the patience of the person giving you the warning...heed it.
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Each admin will handle the situation in a particular way but within accepted procedural methods - just like each player will roleplay in a distinct style of their own in the same situation.
What you have written is all well but may not be applicable in all situations. We cannot have a rulebook which will be following to the 'T' in any situation. If there was such a case we would just need bots with scripts to assess and judge a situation according to pre-defined criteria and warn/kick/tempban/ban.
Thanks for your guide but I do believe that we have a good guide of our own and we will stick with it. In case the guide does not suffice the mods/admins will contact manager+
Best regards...
Commander Cutt3r Slade
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Make your own server with an admin team of 50 people and then come back to tell if we are doing it wrong.