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Argonath RPG Community => Games Discussion => Topic started by: Jubin on June 09, 2011, 01:20:32 pm

Title: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on June 09, 2011, 01:20:32 pm
Europe Universalis 3 is a grand strategy game, where you can choose basically any country in the world and play as it's ruler.

Trailer

Europa Universalis III Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP4hoKc7Zbg#)

The game spans from 1399 up to 1820. So I figured I would share my gameplay a little bit with you.

I chose The Teutonic Order, who are basically the Germans who conquered the eastern shore of the Baltic sea during the Northern Crusades in between 12th and 13th century.

(http://www.imperialteutonicorder.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/deutscher6.jpg.w180h233.jpg)

In 1399 the Political map of Europe
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6721/eu39.png)

First things first, neighbors. Teutonic order is far from being the greatest power in the area. Eastwards there is a great empire of Novgorod that beats Teutonic Order both in land and army size.
South of Teutonic Order there is both Poland and Lithuania moreover to make matters worse, Poland and Lithuania are in a personal union, which means if you attack one, you automatically have to deal with the other.
To the North and west there is Swedish territories, which also beats Teutonic Order in size and army, however both Sweden and Norway are ruled over by Danish king at this point.

When this game ends I would like to have the Baltic Sea as my empires inner sea. That is the goal I have set for myself and that pretty much leaves me the only option to deal with all those big countries in some point in the game as well as I have to deal with other German nations, which is a bit difficult, as they look after each other as they are part of the Holy Roman Empire.

Europe in 1419
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8077/eu310.png)

Twenty years have passed and there are some minor changes. Teutonic order fought a war against Pskov. At that time Pskov was allied with Ryazan and Tver. Three of them had combined army that was about three times bigger than mine, but there was also one problem for them. Between Teutonic Order and Tver there was Novgorod and between Teutonic Order and Ryazan there was Lithuania, so there was no way for them to reach me by land, so that leaved me to deal only with Pskov and that was a good situation for me. What made the situation even better was that after couple of months in war, Riga decided to enter the war on the side of Pskov, Ryazar and Tver, which was a bad decision by their side. After a year or so both Pskov and Riga were annexed so that leaved only Tver and Ryazar.

To deal with them I asked my ally Muscowy to help me, and he did that quite gladly, beside that Novgorod agreed to give me military access and together with Muscowy we were able to defeat Tver and Ryazan. In conclusion the war was successful as Teutonic order gained two lands (Pskov and Riga) and Tver became vassal of Teutonic order as well I made them change their cultural religion from Orthodox to Catholic.

other than that not much have changed. Although I am concerned of both Lithuania and Poland getting bigger. Also seems that Hungary annexed Transilvania, but that is somewhat good, as Hungary is other big ally to me next to Muscowy.
England seems to be in trouble, as it has lost its territories on mainland Europe and even Cornwall has stated it's independence over England.


Post Merge: June 09, 2011, 05:11:49 pm
Another 20 years have passed. This period can be concluded as unsuccessful war campaigns.

Year 1420 started out as really promising for this two decades, as a war started out between my neighbour Novgorod and my ally Muscowy after some thinking I was surely not gonna betray my ally and joined the war.
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7831/eu314.png)

It was looking as if I could get some land from Novgorod to join my vassal Tver with my own lands. But it was not to be...

Three months after I had joined the war a spy from Novgorod was successful in starting a revolt on my territory - Gotland islands. As if that wasn't enough Denmark saw that as a great opportunity to invade Teutonic Order, but as I said Denmark also ruled over Sweden and Norway. Moreover now Novgorod asked his friend Poland to help him and with Poland of course there came Lithuania. After acquiring one state from Novgorod  I offered him a white peace that he accepted, that left me only to deal with Denmark, Norway and Sweden. After the Poles and Lithuanians left, Holland who was allied to Denmark also landed on Teutonic territory and soon enough I was outnumbered by army sizes around 5 to 1 so I had no choice then to give up. This is the peace proposal:


(http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/4945/eu313n.png)

The second war that is somewhat worth mentioning is:
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4417/eu5.png)

This war in general was going great as both Moscovites and Teutons both had great battles that they won over the oppositions, I was already once again dreaming of getting some land from Novgorod as I was already occupying a quite big area but once again not to be...
This time I got screwed over by my own allies, who made a peace with Novgorod in a way, that they got some land out of it, but I didn't get anything out of this war just now a bit bigger and stronger  ally.
Europe in 1439
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3122/eu316d.png)
Let's see what else has been going on in Europe. I am still concerned about the ever growing Poland and Lithuania. Also even though Novgorod still seems really big on the map it is now clear that together with Moscovites they are quite easily beatable beside that, they are already paying tribute to Golden Horde and Kazakhs. Muscowy has now annexed Yaroslavl and also basically Ryazan moreover they have taken some territories from Golden Horde, that is taking hits with each year it seems.
Soon after the Danish had their war with me their power over Sweden decreased so much that now Sweden and Norway both are independent nations which is a good news for me.
Hungary, one of my allies lost a lot of its territories to Poland and also Wallachia emerged from Hungary. England seems to finally started conquering Ireland and France seems to become more integrated than ever.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Wolfe on June 09, 2011, 11:30:24 pm
The game is great, I just don't like the combat in it, kinda complicated and stuff, But I guess I need to run the tutorials for abit more understanding on how I can get my units to work properly ;P
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on June 10, 2011, 12:44:27 am
The game is great, I just don't like the combat in it, kinda complicated and stuff, But I guess I need to run the tutorials for abit more understanding on how I can get my units to work properly ;P
Yes, the game is complicated that is one of the aspects I like about it, as it is not simple "build a mass of guys and run everybody over" kind of game.
What do you mean, work properly? Units ability to fight is mostly determined by it's morale and morale is determined by the amount of money you invest in the units. Also there is chance involved and how good your general is.

Post Merge: June 10, 2011, 02:04:47 pm
The twenty years have once again passed. These decades can be summarized as fear and conquest:

(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/1770/eu1e.png)

The first war that is worth mentioned started in 1442. Although by the numbers it seemed as this was the war we were surely gonna lose, we had an upper-hand on one particular aspect of war and that was the mobility of our land units. The biggest army without doubt was the one that Castile had, but his units had to be transported over sea.  So, while Castile was bringing troops, both Teutonic Order and Hungary were able to crush the second enemy power - Bohemia.

Also, as I gained Bohemias territories then at one point I had a border with one province country of Pomerania, which was only allied with Bohemia itself and other minor German provinces so I saw a great opportunity there to gain even more land! After few months I  annexed Pomerania and other small German states had nothing else to do than to accept that.

Soon after conquering Pomerania I conceded defeat to Castile, not because I was losing, but because the people didn't want the war to continue and the revolt risk started to get high, so I had to lay low for awhile and in the end it was a successful war as I did gain new province.

Another war that I participated started in 1450
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/189/eu3u.png)
I don't actually even know why did they ask me to help them, but it was nice to be asked I guess. Mostly the tasks I was doing is having wars with little German nations to get them out of the war for Poland and Austria while one was dealing with rebels and other one dealt with Milan and Aquileia.

The third and the most important war I was in:
(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1958/eu4.png)


Prequel to this war: Around 1452 Bohemia was once again fighting a war, but this time it was fighting against France, Austria and Hungary with France leading the warfare. This was too much for Bohemia to handle. France demanded from Bohemia to release a nation of Pomerania.(Yes the same one I occupied in 1440s, but Pomerania I have 3 national provinces and I owned only one).

Then in 1457 Pomerania with some other small German nations was once again in war with Bohemia, but Bohemia was too powerful for them and France couldn't help them so fast as they would have wanted. So Bohemia conquered all of the Pomerania land and made a peace with it with a condition that Pomerania will annul all the deals it had with all the countries. That treaty was signed in 1458.

I of course saw a really good opportunity in that, as the only Pomeranias protector was Bohemia and I had two big allies just ready and waiting for an opportunity. I declared war on Pommerania in 1458 as I thought Bohemia will join the war, but so did Austria and Hungary on my side. The war was quick and ended with Pommerania becoming my vassal and Austria getting some land from Bohemia.

Europe in 1459
(http://i55.tinypic.com/m81oh5.png)

Polish guy became the king of Lithuania so now they are joined as one Kingdom of Poland. Scandinavia is in constant war with each other. England I think will be wiped off as a nation and Scotland will soon rule over the British isles.
Overall it seems that big nations are getting bigger and smaller nations are getting smaller.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Eminem. on June 11, 2011, 11:07:20 am
Very nice game, I will try it out soon  :)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on June 11, 2011, 04:02:06 pm
This two decades can be concluded as peace in Teutonic State, action in Europe.

Two wars I was in, weren't really about me nor I gained anything from them.
First war:
(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/362/eu1.png)

when this war started I was called to the war from both sides because it was the war between my two allies. The decision however wasn't hard, because Poland was siding with Austria, so there was no way Hungary was going to win this one. Only action I saw in this war was around 3000 Dutch soldiers who arrived on my shores, where my 15000 men were already waiting for them. After a year or so Hungary offered me a white peace and I was content with it.

(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/4844/eu2g.png)

Second war I was dragged in, was actually a bit of a continuation war by Austrians against Hungary again who this time was allied with Brandenburg, with whom I do have a border with. I was ready to ask from Hungary one of Brandenburgs territories in order to get out of the war with some benefits, but Brandenburg was faster to peace out to Austria, who was leading this war on my side.

Europe in 1480
(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/1734/eu33u.png)
Only change in my countries border is the fact that in 1478 I corporated my vassal into my country. On other news, the wish of getting my country to be around the Baltic Sea seems to going further and further away from me. The last war that Danes and Norwegians fought against Swedes was devastating for Swedes, and they had to lose a lot of their land and even release Finland. Furthermore to make my situation even worse a danish Prince become Norwegian king so Norway is now part of Denmark.

As I predicted on my previous post that England will be wiped off as a nation, it seems this is happening as for right now they control only one province. Poland is greater than ever after they have annexed Wallachia, but now I troubled, because they have nowhere to expand anymore, because Muscowy has conquered the old Golden Horde territories and now blocks Polands way of expanding to the East.

Croatia got its independence and is now a somewhat regional power next to Hungary.

I predict that next two decades are really quiet for me when it comes to war, as Denmark has already warned me, and I am surrounded only by far greater powers than I am.

Post Merge: June 11, 2011, 10:01:06 pm
This twenty years passed without any action for me, so without further blabbing

Europe in 1500
(http://i51.tinypic.com/fuyu5d.png)

England is now gone. Soon Sweden will be too.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Eminem. on June 11, 2011, 10:46:20 pm
Which one is the one you're playing? I've seen numerous expansions regarding the game  :D
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on June 12, 2011, 02:15:53 am
These past twenty years have been quite good for the Teutonic order. First thing of course, when Protestantism kicked in all over Europe and the Popes influence decreased it was right time for a change of name, so from hence forward the Teutonic order is known as

Prussia
.

(http://historischemusik.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/wappen_preusen.png)

During those twenty years, I was part of one war and that was against Poland and Novgorod, which I won and I gained two pieces of land from Poland thanks to that. (Forgot to take a picture of it, sorry).

Now on to the fact, why I was even able to take both Novgorod and Poland on all by myself.

Europe in 1520
(http://i53.tinypic.com/2nqu0if.png)

It is hard to look pass the obvious change in the Eastern Europe. The change was made mostly thanks to Martin Luther and his reformation of the faith in Europe and the coming of Protestant faith. Once the protestant faith started to spread all over the Europe it started a lot of revolts, and Poland was no different. Actually Poland was different in the sense that when Reformation started, Polands stability inside of it was very low so the revolt risk was already high. Then came the protestants who didn't help and if that weren't enough... Countries such as Austria, Hungary and Croatia declared war upon Poland and that was too much for this big country and it dissolved into a lot of smaller countries.
Although it seems that Poland can still rebound as at least half of it's territory is still owned by it and now it's under control. I like this new situation a lot more though, mostly because right now there is a situation where Lithuanias only ally is Moscowy and even though Moscovites are damn huge, they have no access to me nor Lithuania and they are already in war with Ming Dynasty!.

Also you can see on the map that my other big rival, Denmark has also troubles keeping its kingdom intact. I now notice, that also Ottomans have more control over the what is todays Turkey. That might mean that they could come and invade Europe soon, now it is also a lot easier, as Poland isn't on the way scaring those hethans away. Although now from the looks of it, seems like Hungary is now Austrias vassal.

Which one is the one you're playing? I've seen numerous expansions regarding the game  :D
I am playing Europa Universalis 3: Divine Wind.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on July 03, 2011, 02:21:54 am
I know i haven't done any update for a long time, so here comes over a century in one post.

Europe 1542
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6440/eu312x.png)
Europe 1560
(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7646/eu318.png)
Europe 1580
(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/9783/eu323a.png)
Europe 1632
(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3671/eu328s.png)

The 16th century was really revolutionary. As we left 1520 the Europe had just started reformation, but it was soon clear that this won't stop soon. So it was, that the whole century was about religious wars, and those who were successful in keeping their nations more stable and calm, were also the ones who were able to profit the most out of the century.
Poland disintegrated as the century went on and in the end Poland became part of the Prussian Empire. The other countries that came out of Polish rules were later joined under one ruling of Ukraine, who also made several attempts to get into Prussian territories.
Denmark lost it's grip over Scandinavia and that started the way to downfall spiral for them, as Scotland saw an opportunity in it to get it's part of Scandinavian pie.
Austria is getting bigger and bigger and is mostly expanding it's territories around the Mediterranean Sea. It has currently the largest army in the world, which is good, as I am allied with it.
Finland has gained some territories from Novgorod, which really surprised me, but that gives me an opportunity, to maybe now get them for myself. All I have to worry about is actually Scottish Navy, but that problem can be solved just by creating a bigger fleet than they have.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Squeak on July 03, 2011, 07:11:01 pm
This game looks siiiiiiick. You can tell I really like it because I used more than one 'i'.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on July 04, 2011, 07:23:30 pm
Europe 1660
(http://i52.tinypic.com/okpm4p.png)

This decades have passed and during that time, I have expanded quite a lot. First I forced Mecklenburg to become a part of my nation, and when getting into a war against Muscowy and Finland I was able to force the later to become my vassal. Beside Mecklenburg I also added the states of Brandenburg into my territories as well as one province of Heissen deflected into my country.
On the Eastern Front I continued my wars against the Ukraine. Counting from the 1520 when Ukraine was founded to 1660 I have had total of 15 wars against Ukraine.

Around other places in Europe - Austria is continuing on its path of being the worlds greatest power and is not showing any signs of stopping at this moment. Denmark is back! Sweden has incorporated Norway under its ruling. France is losing its grip and is slowly decading.

Ukraine, who, at one point had even bigger army than I had, is now divided into Poland, Moldavia, Bulgaria, Wallachia and Golden Horde. Who are all basically my bad girles, but at least now when they combine their forces, they can stand against Ukraine on their own.

Ottoman Empire is going under Austria soon enough. One of the greatest news although is the fact that Muscowy has disintegrated into smaller countries again and doesn't seem like a big threat any more.

Post Merge: July 06, 2011, 02:34:14 pm
Another 80 years have passed
Europe 1680
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/28/eu330.png)

Within this two decades I finalized the deal with Finland incorporating it into Prussia as well I fought Scotland and got western Finland as well and Poland became part of my Empire as well. The later although wasn't intentional at all, just that Polish king died and the next successor in line was Prussian, so I got it.
Europe itself was kind of boring at that time, only Denmark got some of its land back from Scotland ending the Scottish reign in Scandinavia for all, only one province remains under Scotland rule in northern Scandinavia.

Europe 1700
(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9721/eu333o.png)

The end of the 17th century I hope marked the end of an era. During that time Prussia fought it's last war against Ukraine, who this time had an ally in the form of Muscovite, but who were no match for Prussian forces, mostly because Muscovwy had a lot of revolts in its territories. Keeping that in mind Prussian forces pushed into deep of Muscovite territories almost reaching Moscow itself. Thanks to the successful warfare Muscowy had to release Smolensk. Also Prussia won a war against Holstein, who at that time still got to hold on to it's very valuable city of Luebeck.
In other parts of Europe, England came back from death and Granada declared its independence from Castille.

Europe 1720
(http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/4906/eu334.png)

Europe 1740
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6523/eu336.png)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on July 10, 2011, 07:11:52 pm
End Game
Europe 1763
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7947/eu337.png)
Europe 1781

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5206/eu338.png)

Europe 1802
(http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/1443/eu339.png)

Europe 1820
(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/4416/eu340.png)

Gonna add final thoughts later.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: MrTony on July 10, 2011, 07:33:47 pm
This game looks really good.I am intrigued by games of this genre.Have you played the Total War Games?They are different of course but I would stack them in the same category.Could you do a comparison between them please?I would love to listen to your opinion.

P.S. I played with the Teutonic Order like one month ago in Medieval 2.Too bad I didn't see it evolve into Prussia tho.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on July 10, 2011, 10:16:04 pm
Have you played the Total War Games?They are different of course but I would stack them in the same category.Could you do a comparison between them please?I would love to listen to your opinion.


The closest genre you can put EU 3 and total war games is strategy.  EU 3 is real-time while total war is turn based (not counting battles). Also when it comes to group both games are directed to, then Total war is directed mostly to teenagers while EU 3 is for more mature players. Mostly because young players are so obsessed with graphics and special effects, what EU 3 does not have. Also EU 3 takes a lot more dedication and time to learn than total war series game. For example, total time it took me to understand Rome:Total War, was the total time of Tutorial so maybe an hour or so while total time studying the mechanics of EU 3 was around 2 weeks and I am quite sure when put to hours it was 20+, with some aspects still not totally clear for me. That allows EU 3 to be a lot more historical than total war games, with a lot of country specifics events.
In conclusion total war games have better graphics and is more user friendly, beside total war have opportunity to lead your battles. While EU 3 is a lot more dedication and brain work needing game.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: MrTony on July 10, 2011, 10:21:41 pm
The closest genre you can put EU 3 and total war games is strategy.  EU 3 is real-time while total war is turn based (not counting battles). Also when it comes to group both games are directed to, then Total war is directed mostly to teenagers while EU 3 is for more mature players. Mostly because young players are so obsessed with graphics and special effects, what EU 3 does not have. Also EU 3 takes a lot more dedication and time to learn than total war series game. For example, total time it took me to understand Rome:Total War, was the total time of Tutorial so maybe an hour or so while total time studying the mechanics of EU 3 was around 2 weeks and I am quite sure when put to hours it was 20+, with some aspects still not totally clear for me. That allows EU 3 to be a lot more historical than total war games, with a lot of country specifics events.
In conclusion total war games have better graphics and is more user friendly, beside total war have opportunity to lead your battles. While EU 3 is a lot more dedication and brain work needing game.

Thanks,a wise opinion indeed.Can't wait to see the continuation of your campaign btw. :)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Squeak on July 10, 2011, 10:39:42 pm
Thanks,a wise opinion indeed.Can't wait to see the continuation of your campaign btw. :)
The campaign ended already.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Void on July 10, 2011, 10:50:45 pm
This game is excellent.  I'm simply "forced" to get it.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: MrTony on July 10, 2011, 11:01:04 pm
The campaign ended already.

I fail,I meant the final thoughts.Btw,I kept staring at Darth Nihilus lol.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on July 11, 2011, 12:34:09 am

When this game ends I would like to have the Baltic Sea as my empires inner sea. That is the goal I have set for myself and that pretty much leaves me the only option to deal with all those big countries in some point in the game as well as I have to deal with other German nations, which is a bit difficult, as they look after each other as they are part of the Holy Roman Empire.

That was the goal I sat for myself when I started the game and when the campaign ended, I did not meet the criteria, although I wasn't far off. Only thing separating me from the goal was Sweden, who just wouldn't become my vassal. Although it is logical, seeing that he actually also had some territories in North America:
(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/7947/eu337.png)

 :ps: USA does exist, but it is just in Central America todays Nicaragua.

Now other thoughts. Well as a Teutonic Order I could have done a lot better from the start if I would have built a decent navy from start. It doesn't have to be big, as AI usually don't bother with big ships at also building 10 big ship is quite enough for start. The benefit as a Teutonic Order/Prussia owning  a navy is its location. To get trough to Prussia if not having a border with it, is only trough Danish waters, and if owning big enough fleet there to guard that area, there is literally no chance to trouble Prussian territories. In later time of the game that was basically how I kept 3 to 5 country simultaneously away from me, while I was fighting one of my neighbors.

Also, try to keep your wars short and best if it as few participants as possible. Mostly because when there is a lot of participants the war tends to get big as those participants have allies, who also have another allies and so forth. That is for example the reason, I had a losing war against Austria, who actually thought wouldn't enter at all as I started the war against Sweden - who had allies Scotland and Portugal - both who I can keep off with my navy. Then again Portugal had Austria as ally and it had 3 times bigger army, and a border with me.
Another one is that you can get more with a good word and a gun than just  with a good word, but other countries tolerate a lot more if you gain territories with just a good word.

Now I am thinking what country should I try next.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jellyfish on July 11, 2011, 04:56:34 am
Kinda reminds me of 'Risk'
Although it probably isn't anything like it with the advanced storyline,graphics and gameplay.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on September 27, 2011, 09:01:17 pm
just bumping this topic as I would like to see other players AAR's.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Oliver_Daniels on February 16, 2012, 11:11:45 pm
I inherited Ming and Manchu as Japan, got cores on all of their territories.
Yay me.

Read all of Jubin's campaign and I think I'm going to do a game as well. Just need to think of a country now, maybe I'll go for uniting Saudi Arabia.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: JayL on February 17, 2012, 12:28:55 am
I'll show a couple of pics and highlights of my game as I don't have the habit of taking screenshots, but here we go.

First off I started as Muscovy. First mission was to get Yaroslavl and so I immediately beat Tver to it. Not long after the initial truce with Golden Horde was broken so I started to have a tribute load in my economy. For that I hired a Master of Mint and with him I managed to stabilize my economy.

And so it went with Golden Horde - truces all the time until 1450 where I took the offensive along with other countries and got the largest slice of the pie. By 1430-1440 I already had Novgorod in my hands thanks to a concentrated surprise attack with which I could safely pick all their provinces (in two wars) as the truce strategy with Golden Horde was working.

After the war with Novgorod I had a good army, good territory and with a National Bank and Master of Mint I finally had a safe income to afford an attack. So there it went - launched my offensive and not long after other neighbors started to attack Golden Horde, most notably the Ottomans. I spent nearly whole 1460-1560 colonising the Golden Horde territory (plus a few off-guard neighbors such as Sibir) and expanding my empire. Russian nation was formed at some point in the early 1520s.

This period was relatively calm for me excluding the Golden Hordes as the potential threats (Lithuania and Poland) were easily overriden and later split between a bunch of Western power enclaves. Besides I kept a relatively friendly relation with Ottoman Empire, which arose as the main Arab power, and Persia which was expanding significantly. Manchu, Tibet and Korea were not even heard of.

During 1600-1700 I continued to expand my empire towards the Pacific Ocean - a period of relative peace; my army had grown to 100-120k troops and so I could maintain it distributed through the entire country to counter any revolts. By about 1660 I had stacked a good 20.000 ducats and I was preparing the entire country for a war with Western neighbors...

From 1700s onwards I turned my attention back to Western Europe. My first enemy was Sweden - they had taken Karelia and Polotsk earlier so I had to reconquer these two territories. I managed to get half of the provinces of Eastern Sweden but their retaliation was strong so I backed off to Karelia and Polotsk (mainly due Land Technology disparity which I did not initally pay attention to - I had double of their manpower). By this point Sweden's mainland was the Baltic region as their Scandinavian territories were occupied by several colonial powers such as Portugal, and their neighbor Norway.

After the war with Sweden I did the last preparations to my focus at the time - the Baltic region. By 1730 Sweden was kicked out of it and Bohemia had taken over, coming to my borders. They made a significant expansion in a short amount of time, which posed a big threat to me. I massed a 135.000 men strong army at the border and declared war. First phase I took defensive positions - they sent massed armies to my front but they were picked off one by one. After the bulk of Bohemian military was taken over I stretched my army all over Bohemia (I had no allies at all as they proved to be useless).

Great Britain, Portugal and Saxony joined the war on Bohemia's side, though their overstretching with colonial matters only allowed them little resources against Russia - the regiments sent against me were easily crushed by my armies, giving me control of Warmia which was in British hands.

War exhaustion and a chain reaction of revolts significantly halted my conquest of Bohemia, so I had to negotiate peace with my enemy at all costs. However I faced a problem - my infamy allowed me to claim only about 40% of the territory despite I had Imperialism casus belli. So I came with this move: demanded an ''isolation perimeter'' of provinces, effectively splitting Bohemia in half - one half was encircled by my territories and the other half got overriden by Ulm and Austria. At this time things went relatively calm again and I expanded my army to 250.000 troops.

As soon as I got out of the war, the Koreans suddenly declared a war on me. However Korea had a largely backward land technology so I barely needed to mobilise additional armies into the Far East for defense.

After a bit of maintenance (building manufactories, improving provinces, etc) it was Persia's time to declare war on me. Just like Korea though they had a large technology disadvantadge and asked for peace as soon as I had my Moscow armies arriving at the border. Not much action came out of it. However it was not enough - came the Ottomans and played their bit by attacking me.

However the Ottomans were at a large disadvantadge - their European exit was blocked off by Serbia, Kosovo and Bulgaria rendering that route ineffective for an attack. I moved an army of 15.000 men to provinces of Cheson, Abkhazia and Crimea which were not garrisoned at all. The fact that their only attack route proved to be the provinces of the Caucasus I quickly set up a massed defense belt and once again picked their massed armies bit by bit. With this I conquered provinces of Black Sea and the Caucasus, which delayed my plan of overtaking Bohemia as I had to wait for my infamy to cool down again.

With the Far East fully colonised and developed, and Caucasus, Crimea, Karelia and Eastern Baltic under my control, I had two priorities left: annex the reborn states Lithuania and Ukraine which got a stripe of provinces through nationalist revolts during the war with Bohemia, and take the Bohemian land which I encircled. Lithuania and Ukraine were reconquered and so I was a step closer to my final objectives.

Now I am at 1791 and a few curiosities:
- entire America is heavily fragmented, with La Plata and Chile emerging as independent nations in the South.
- contrarty to the expected, the kingdom to experience tremendous revolts was Austria and not France, making Austria the first Revolutionary Republic in Europe
- Spain is still not united, with Castille being the main colonial power and Aragon having small shares of land scattered through different continents. Castille is the only one of the ''old colonial vanguard'' to keep its strength
- Portugal mainland moved to North America as most of their original territory was taken by Castille
- Great Britain, France and Portugal are weakened: limited army, overstretching and constant territorial gains/losses in mainland (France); most notable European countries at the moment being Russia and Austria
- Ottoman Empire is meeting its demise. After the failed war with Russia their military was severely weakened and several territories were lost, leaving them only a bit of what they originally had
- Southern Slavic states such as Serbia seem to finally conquer their survival, as until now they were constantly made independent and then annexed again. Moldavia is still constantly attacking Serbs, though

A few screenshots (1791):
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_16.bmp (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_16.bmp)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_17.bmp (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_17.bmp)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_18.bmp (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_18.bmp)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_19.bmp (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_19.bmp)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_20.bmp (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_20.bmp)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_21.bmp (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_21.bmp)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_22.bmp (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_22.bmp)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_23.bmp (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_23.bmp)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_24.bmp (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_24.bmp)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_25.bmp (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/EU3_25.bmp)

Conclusion: Muscovy/Russia is an extremely enjoyable game, specially considering it's my first EU3 game - things such as harsh start with Golden Horde and initial land technology disadvantadge to countries like Sweden made me learn with bad mistakes and overcome them, as well as having a lot of fun going to war with others and what not. I'd recommend it as a option to new players, instead of Castille.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on February 17, 2012, 02:19:11 am
That Portugal, man. They always change their capital to America.

I'm playing Granada cheated. I conquered pretty much the entire Iberian peninsula by now, but France is giving me a really tough time. The plan is to make entire Europe muslim.

If enough people are interested, like, really enough (at least 5), we could try playing multiplayer... Me and Oliver played quite a bit already but it'd be nice to try it out with you, Jubin and whoever else, man.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on February 17, 2012, 10:35:35 am
That Portugal, man. They always change their capital to America.

I'm playing Granada cheated. I conquered pretty much the entire Iberian peninsula by now, but France is giving me a really tough time. The plan is to make entire Europe muslim.


You need hell of a lot of luck for that.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on February 17, 2012, 05:09:23 pm
Doable, man. I'm at what? 1480? And I've conquered all Iberia but 3 provinces, and all the 'shaft' of Italy. I've got a permanent Holy War CB on all my catholic neighbors so it's rather smooth sailing. I figure I'll eventually be able to beat France in a war of attrition.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on February 17, 2012, 07:04:14 pm
Doable, man. I'm at what? 1480? And I've conquered all Iberia but 3 provinces, and all the 'shaft' of Italy. I've got a permanent Holy War CB on all my catholic neighbors so it's rather smooth sailing. I figure I'll eventually be able to beat France in a war of attrition.
France, Great Britain, Austria, whole of Germany, Poland-Lithuania, Scandinavia etc. If nothing else, then the stability from all the wars or infamy which takes too long to go down to get all of Europe.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: BKP on February 17, 2012, 07:22:24 pm
This game is much too complicated for me  :roll:
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on February 17, 2012, 07:32:52 pm
France, Great Britain, Austria, whole of Germany, Poland-Lithuania, Scandinavia etc. If nothing else, then the stability from all the wars or infamy which takes too long to go down to get all of Europe.

We'll see in 300 years ok

But it's getting a bit complicated, yes. I recently got into war with an overly powerful Hansa, around the meditarranean (Spain, islands and Italy). Their superior navy was a huge problem, and Overextension and 9 war exhaustion had me struggling a bit, but I was winning.

Then France declared war. I quit then and there.


This game is much too complicated for me  :roll:

Well man if you're really interseted, there are a lot of videos and tutorials you can watch or read. There is a great one on the Something Awful forums about Castille, but apparently you have to sign up now. You can also ask any questions in this thread.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on February 17, 2012, 09:04:04 pm
Or check paradox forum and the wiki of EU for good hints, AARs
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on February 18, 2012, 12:49:07 am
Or check paradox forum and the wiki of EU for good hints, AARs

I thought you couldn't read those unless you bought at least one of their games.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on February 25, 2012, 08:09:34 pm
Having quite the fun with Bavaria. I remembered ElMartu told me, that France is way too difficult to handle (probably we play at different difficulty settings) so I just have to show this.

Europe 1571

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2mh795z.png)

and

Europe 1592
(http://i43.tinypic.com/dotmqr.png)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: JayL on February 26, 2012, 12:40:41 am
France is way too difficult to handle

In my game as Russia, France was like a piece of glass dilatating and contracting all the time. At one point Portugal had completely occupied it, though they couldn't annex it in the end.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on March 03, 2012, 06:59:50 pm
I finished my Bavaria game - this is the end result of what I had in Europe. Also had quite good colony in North America.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/30aavcn.png)

Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on March 04, 2012, 06:51:57 pm
Awesome. I played as Bavaria twice. I couldn't find a picture of my Bavaria > Germany game but before forming it my nation looked quite similar to your first pic.

This is the HRE game, which I played up to 1650 or so. I went over the infamy limit for shits and giggles, conquiering big chunks of france and spain before getting bored

(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595817638564893934/0B8AA150718F02FD84D9EE8AA25B5BAA4CF24DE3/)







I'm currently playing a Papal States game. I got terribly lucky and by 1418 I own about 7-8 provinces.


BTW Jub if you have Steam or MSN or anything where we can organise MP games, PM me. We're 4 people that are willing to play, 5 counting you.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Clone on March 04, 2012, 06:59:21 pm
This game looks beyond epic, downloading it now.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on March 08, 2012, 12:44:25 am
Wonder if you actually played Toxic

(stealth bump)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on March 08, 2012, 10:34:09 pm
Some pictures still from last Bavaria/HRE game.

Wait what? I wonder if Great Britain helped Bohemia in his war against Great Britain.

(http://i40.tinypic.com/34jb03o.png)

Never knew there were so many Latvians living in North America that they could impose any kind of threat. then again, they were revolting against the French.

(http://i42.tinypic.com/347uqfr.png)

Brazil: "Ah guys screw South America. I heard Africa has way more sand  and that means better beaches." At arrival. "Men, the Europeans have screwed us over again."

(http://i42.tinypic.com/2ahun1h.png)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: JayL on March 08, 2012, 10:36:37 pm
Brazil: "lol getting yuropeans is 2 annoyin we get dem bwois from afrika arselvez coz we still slavist state !!!"

fixed
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on March 08, 2012, 10:40:42 pm
Or

Brazil: "This land belonged to us when Pangaea still existed!"
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on March 08, 2012, 11:59:49 pm
BTW Jub if you have Steam or MSN or anything where we can organise MP games, PM me. We're 4 people that are willing to play, 5 counting you.


niggaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on March 22, 2012, 12:52:39 pm

niggaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Whiteeey, we have talked about this before.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on March 22, 2012, 09:40:52 pm
i dont remember lol

here's a pic from my current game tho

(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/522656027496294915/28FF4D9BD414477ECD2728327EAB2D66755B8A60/)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on March 23, 2012, 03:19:12 am
Seeing this just makes me sigh as it shows I don't know how to play the game at all.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on March 25, 2012, 07:42:34 pm
60 years later from that screenshot atm

I have all of brazil and a chunk of the guyanas

Moved capital to America, I have more cash than I can handle

My secret? I'm kinda cheating: I set colonist size to 400.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on March 30, 2012, 03:18:30 am
map painting general

(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595840436595876767/3605F2E09BE3D829518CC85A861973B0C16B23A1/)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on March 30, 2012, 09:14:25 pm
Man you and your cheating ass :/
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on March 30, 2012, 09:32:05 pm
Oh if you think I actually cheated, I said it ironically. It's a game option to have a bigger colonist size. I didn't edit any files or entered any cheat code whatsoever.

The name is now an arc from north america's east coast, down to mexico and then all the way up to the west coast
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on March 30, 2012, 09:42:03 pm
Yeah I know :( I still feel way inferior to your economic build-ups. That is one of the greatest problem I always have in my games. My economy is always so down that I can't afford any armies.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on March 30, 2012, 10:08:34 pm
Hehe my economy was SHIT until I switched capitals in 1500

Coffee, Sugar, Cotton, and Gold are abundant in America. I have about 100 provinces or so, and most of them produce that. This combined with max Free Trade and Plutocracy, and a high level master of mint make my income about 500 ducats yearly.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on March 30, 2012, 11:24:37 pm
I mean in general. You managed to reach for example the Holy Roman Empire by 1511 I think it was, while I was struggling and got to it like 200 years later. Just shows there is something really wrong with my gameplay.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on March 31, 2012, 12:30:54 am
It was something like 1600 actually... But I get your point.

Easiest thing to do is just move all the way to max free trade in early game. Doesn't matter which nation you are, it always pays off. Always.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on March 31, 2012, 11:19:52 am
It was something like 1600 actually... But I get your point.

Easiest thing to do is just move all the way to max free trade in early game. Doesn't matter which nation you are, it always pays off. Always.
Yeah but at which point is it actually profitable to start sending merchants to CoTs?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: JayL on April 18, 2012, 08:50:50 pm
Tried to reach Pacific as early as I could - ended up breaking another record...

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61812758/eu3/ha.png)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on June 03, 2012, 12:28:32 pm
So what's been going on in EU3 guys, huh?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on June 09, 2012, 03:40:42 pm
We went to Victoria

Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Alarba on June 10, 2012, 10:27:16 pm
Went to India, didn't come back  :(
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Oliver on June 10, 2012, 11:09:10 pm
(http://i45.tinypic.com/67302q.jpg)

India, Vijayanagar. The Muslims control much of the territory of the once-powerful Hindustan and are showing no interest in stopping until they control all of our peninsula. The days of Asoka The Great are long gone, and the entire peninsula is completely divided. The regional superpower, Delhi, is locked in a devastating war with Timur's Empire and as such is unable to protect their religious brethren, Deccan, Gujarat and Sind from my inevitable onslaught to kick the Muslims out of Hindustan, for good.
My advisors have recommended me to liberate Raichur Doab and, with that, form a land connection with the province isolated from Bangalore, Goa.

The trade routes to Europe were disrupted with the Mongol invasions two hundred years ago, and we now know nothing about the state they're in. We are guessing, that without our spices and without the Chinese luxury goods, they have fallen into a state of anarchy and are in a state of perpetual war. All our attempts to re-establish connection have been blocked by the Muslims of Persia and Arabia.
On a related note, the trade routes to China have also diminished and, while maintaining connection with the Indo-Chinese peninsula, we have no idea about how the Chinese Empire is faring. The last we heard from them was them being invaded by the Mongols, and we fear the worst.

(http://i45.tinypic.com/qn74gx.jpg)

As the king of the state of Vijayanagar, things are looking good. I was able to recruit three advisors into my court to help me in my quest to liberate the area from Madurai to the valley of Indus. My son, Virupaksha, is not well liked among the populace due to his rather violent ways, but I believe that he will be a better ruler than I once he takes the throne, and I don't care what the serfs think.

(http://i49.tinypic.com/10zyff6.jpg)

In two short years the Muslim bastards have annexed the state of Orissa. I have been preparing for war all this time and am ready to attack Deccan. I have forged an alliance with my northern Hindu brothers from Bihar, in case Deccan proves to be too strong.
A Hindu liberation army has taken arms in central Deccan, and I am going to attack before the Muslims get to suppress them.
More news from the north - the Muslims of Gujarat have viciously attacked the Hindus of Rajput. It looks like the Hindus are getting the worst of it.

(http://i50.tinypic.com/30mssp0.jpg)

Things are looking well for me. The Muslims of Delhi have rushed to the aid of Deccan, but due to their war with Timur's Empire, they are unlikely to send any forces to Deccan. I am leading the Hindu Liberation Army against the Muslims in the province of Golconda, and I have trusted the Army of Bangalore to occupy Raichur Doab. A small force has also been sent to Telingana since the Muslims have no army to speak of in Orissa, and the more I occupy, the better.

(http://i47.tinypic.com/25utfte.jpg)

In less than a year I have managed to occupy two of Deccan's provinces. Delhi is still locked in a war with Timur, but have completely rebuilt their forces - I hope that they don't send any down here. The army I'm leading, the Hindu Liberation Army, while victorious in two battles, has taken immense casualties and is now stuck in northern Deccan. Due to the pressing need of reinforcements, I had to raise a levy, seven thousand strong, and they are now moving to support the occupation of Orissa. The war is completely in my favor, I estimate a total victory in less than two years.




I have about 25 more screenshots, should I keep going or is no one going to read this?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on June 10, 2012, 11:41:42 pm
tl;dr vijayanagar is for casuals

Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: JayL on June 11, 2012, 02:08:49 am
I once saw Vijayanagar get really, really big in one of my games. They pushed over all the way to border with Tibet and all the way to Timurid shit around Indian peninsula.

Are they the ones who form Mughal Empire?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on June 11, 2012, 02:48:25 am
No that's Timurids

and Vijayanagar ALWAYS blobs up, easily the strongest indian nation
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Oliver on June 12, 2012, 12:00:09 am
No that's Timurids

and Vijayanagar ALWAYS blobs up, easily the strongest indian nation

I've seen Rajputana blob up. Vijayanagar gets tons of those "subjugate x" and "reclaim x for our country" missions though.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Void on June 22, 2012, 07:05:00 pm
Anyone ever tried the Death and Taxes mod? I got tired of Vanilla solely for the square-ish map.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on June 22, 2012, 08:26:08 pm
D&T is the best mod out there, but I think it makes the game too easy

It includes the DAO map which reshapes (and adds) many provinces - I personally just go with that alone.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Void on June 22, 2012, 08:32:36 pm
D&T is the best mod out there, but I think it makes the game too easy

It includes the DAO map which reshapes (and adds) many provinces - I personally just go with that alone.

If someone is up to playing through Tunngle or something. Let me know.
I'd like to give this game a try again because it got me addictive last time.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on June 22, 2012, 10:32:13 pm
Me and Jay are playing victoria 2 more often currently, and Jubin seems to have vanished
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on July 02, 2012, 08:09:25 pm
guys you're supposed to post in here more often

guys
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: EenBeeFour on July 02, 2012, 11:45:25 pm
To be honest I prefer Victoria II and Hearts of Iron II For the Motherland.

If anyone wants to play Victoria II, Hearts of Iron III or Europa Univeralis III Divine Wind with me on Hamachi, Tunngle or something, I'd be glad to play.

I have a moderate to good knowledge of all the games, as I've played nearly 100 hours for each one on Xfire (Except Victoria doesn't work with Xfire if a retail version).

I tend to play as:

Europa Univeralis III

Castille/Spain
Papal States
Austria

Victoria II

USA
Chile
Argentina
Austria/Austria-Hungary
Prussia/German Federation/Confederation of Germany/Germany
Japan/Mongolia/Korean/Chinese Empire

Hearts of Iron III

Austria
Germany
Poland
Australia
USA
Chile
Argentina
Brazil

Hearts of Iron 3 Maps(Direct links to prevent large post)

Germany 14/12/1941

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg247/morlanvideos1234/HoI3_MAP_GER_194112146_1.jpg (http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg247/morlanvideos1234/HoI3_MAP_GER_194112146_1.jpg)

Poland 19/1/1946

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg247/morlanvideos1234/HoI3_MAP_POL_19382511_1.jpg (http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg247/morlanvideos1234/HoI3_MAP_POL_19382511_1.jpg)

USA 28/4/1941

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg247/morlanvideos1234/HoI3_MAP_USA_19374286_1.jpg (http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg247/morlanvideos1234/HoI3_MAP_USA_19374286_1.jpg)

The dates in the screenshots are off due to a mod I had that extends the time period.

Post Merge: July 02, 2012, 11:51:04 pm
Hehe my economy was SHIT until I switched capitals in 1500

Coffee, Sugar, Cotton, and Gold are abundant in America. I have about 100 provinces or so, and most of them produce that. This combined with max Free Trade and Plutocracy, and a high level master of mint make my income about 500 ducats yearly.

To be honest, I always try to be friendly or be in a war with someone that can't reach me (dem war taxes) and try to colonise a piece of America as soon as possible to get that sexy economy boost.

The first time I ever colonised America was south of Miami, the left strip of Mexico, Cuba and the top of Brazil and Venezuela.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on July 03, 2012, 12:21:53 am
I do not understand a thing about hearts of iron so i like your pictures

and war taxes on EU3 break your country man, especially over long periods of time, i never use them, ever

they're like, +0.1 war exhaustion MONTHLY - grab some attrition and you're never going back down
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Void on July 03, 2012, 12:24:32 am
Well, if someone plays Death and Taxes, let me know. I have fair knowledge of the game, I can recognize the purpose of every option but I still need a lot of pitching in on the economical part. I can build a solid army but it drags my country down. I evade playing with big countries because they border more nations meaning I would need to defend my country more often.

Someone can help me through Tunngle if possible.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: EenBeeFour on July 03, 2012, 12:32:44 am
I do not understand a thing about hearts of iron so i like your pictures

and war taxes on EU3 break your country man, especially over long periods of time, i never use them, ever

they're like, +0.1 war exhaustion MONTHLY - grab some attrition and you're never going back down

You were the one who taught me about using war taxes when possible ;)

I also play as Brunei more often now, they don't border any countries at all and can discover alot of the area easily as well as gain better relationships with the Asian countries.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Void on July 03, 2012, 12:52:29 am
I downloaded the new version of D&T mod(6.5) just now and I get a weird grainy screen and dark sea texture(exception is the Pacific which is normally colored). Tried with a lower version and it's the same.
Seems like anything above 5.14 doesn't work for me.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on July 03, 2012, 12:53:34 am
Well perhaps I was a big noob when I told you that heh


And sure bro I'll play D&T with you. Add me on Steam again, I deleted you when I thought you were gone for good



I downloaded the new version of D&T mod(6.5) just now and I get a weird grainy screen and dark sea texture(exception is the Pacific which is normally colored). Tried with a lower version and it's the same.
Seems like anything above 5.14 doesn't work for me.


Maybe the new D&T is for the EU3 Divine Wind 5.2 beta?

ok i just checked and no it says it's for 5.1 BJLT, so I have no idea



edit: checksum is AINI for newest D&T

third edit: I fucking got CQXU now
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: EenBeeFour on July 03, 2012, 07:09:16 pm
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg247/morlanvideos1234/woo.jpg)

:3
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Void on July 03, 2012, 07:11:07 pm
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg247/morlanvideos1234/woo.jpg)

:3
I would like to see your infamy level, if possible.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: EenBeeFour on July 03, 2012, 07:13:05 pm
I would like to see your infamy level, if possible.

226.6, Aceh kept starting wars which then loads of other people joined in, so I ended up taking over majority of South East Asia.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Void on July 03, 2012, 07:14:56 pm
226.6, Aceh kept starting wars which then loads of other people joined in, so I ended up taking over majority of South East Asia.
I knew it was a big number but 226? What are you plans on lower it down? At this point, I'd usually quit the game because my country would go down of all those punitive wars.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: EenBeeFour on July 03, 2012, 07:17:30 pm
I don't really bother with it now, I'm currently fixing my rebel problems.

Majority of the wars caused my Revolt to sky rocket, so the provinces were always red and I had to retreat and screw over a few battles because the Brunei region had about 9k units in each province.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on July 04, 2012, 12:00:17 am
You know the revolt risk is because of the infamy


and you could very well be accused of cheating because you cut the top bar of the screen

As for myself I'm slowly playing a D&T game of Byzantium. 1399 start. Shit's even easier than in vanilla, I annexed Epirus (2 provinces), Achaea (OPM) and Naples (4 provinces) in less than ten years. Got cores on everything because of the missions and now I got the mission to conquer Rome. Still can't deal with Ottomans, though I probably got the larger navy by this point.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: EenBeeFour on July 04, 2012, 02:09:16 am
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg247/morlanvideos1234/commissionpainting.jpg)

This one is from my one of my first saves that I cheated on, I was experimenting with all the stuff

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Post Merge: July 04, 2012, 02:13:41 am
You know the revolt risk is because of the infamy


Not always. The revolt risk increases the longer you're at war. This also goes with inflation of your economy, which also increases the revolt risk.

Having wars directly after more wars is practically the easiest way to get your revolt risk over 10/20/30, as well as missionaries to change religions in already heated provinces.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on July 04, 2012, 10:35:02 pm
being over the infamy limit gives you some gay ass event that spawns revolts in a province each one or two months, so yeah perhaps it's not direct revolt risk but it does spawn a hundred rebel armies

and I think you're playing HTTT, I thought Divine Wind stopped the COMMISSION PAINTING spams
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: EenBeeFour on July 04, 2012, 11:09:22 pm
being over the infamy limit gives you some gay ass event that spawns revolts in a province each one or two months, so yeah perhaps it's not direct revolt risk but it does spawn a hundred rebel armies

and I think you're playing HTTT, I thought Divine Wind stopped the COMMISSION PAINTING spams

No, I've got all of them except In Nomine and Napoleon's Ambitions
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on July 05, 2012, 12:16:27 am
it doesn't work that way, you don't own single expansions

the order is EU3 > NA > IN (Complete) > HTTT > DW (Chronicles)

you have to own all of the previous expansions to play one of them. for HTTT you own EU3, NA, and IN, and for DW you own them all

if your version isn't 5.1 checksum BJLT (assuming you're playing without mods), then you should really cough up some cash and buy the ones you don't have
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: EenBeeFour on July 05, 2012, 02:37:40 am
it doesn't work that way, you don't own single expansions

the order is EU3 > NA > IN (Complete) > HTTT > DW (Chronicles)

you have to own all of the previous expansions to play one of them. for HTTT you own EU3, NA, and IN, and for DW you own them all

if your version isn't 5.1 checksum BJLT (assuming you're playing without mods), then you should really cough up some cash and buy the ones you don't have

My shortcut icon is Divine Wind, I'll check my version.

EDIT: 5.0 OJDM, also says Divine Wind as the Main Menu title.

I havent changed versions since the download you gave me, I got another copy of NA on my hard drive that I downloaded because I thought I didn't have it.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on July 05, 2012, 03:43:26 pm
just run EU3.exe and check for updates, 5.1 should be available for download

believe me it's such a good improvement you'll ask yourself why didn't you get it earlier
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on July 10, 2012, 03:12:23 am
I'm playing MiscMods with the DAO map, Shattered Europe scenario as Granada, now Spain.

Bohemia looks scary. And while Northnumberland is this close to forming Britain they have almost no navy because of a war they and I had, so they aren't a problem.

(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/594723435460605178/DD91C1CB3D8E36467421A8B6392DCC68C52BFC8C/)

Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: McGarrett on July 10, 2012, 03:20:48 am
Ok, so this game is some sort of a combination of Age of Empires and Risk?
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: EenBeeFour on July 10, 2012, 03:38:37 am
I'm playing MiscMods with the DAO map, Shattered Europe scenario as Granada, now Spain.

Bohemia looks scary. And while Northnumberland is this close to forming Britain they have almost no navy because of a war they and I had, so they aren't a problem.

(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/594723435460605178/DD91C1CB3D8E36467421A8B6392DCC68C52BFC8C/)


Two things:
What is Northumberland, and why don't you have the advanced water on
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: McGarrett on July 10, 2012, 03:45:43 am
Two things:
What is Northumberland, and why don't you have the advanced water on

Ewww.. Sameland is bigger than Norway itself! Thank god that we're in the 21st Century :)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Void on July 10, 2012, 04:15:10 pm
Two things:
What is Northumberland, and why don't you have the advanced water on
It's a northeast region of England. The bloodiest place of Britain as well. Lots of great battles between Scotland and England happened there.
You can release it as a vassal state in DAO and D&T mods.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: EenBeeFour on July 10, 2012, 06:53:22 pm
It's a northeast region of England. The bloodiest place of Britain as well. Lots of great battles between Scotland and England happened there.
You can release it as a vassal state in DAO and D&T mods.

Ah right
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on July 10, 2012, 07:00:55 pm
Ok, so this game is some sort of a combination of Age of Empires and Risk?

kind of like RISK but way harder

way more rewarding as well

Two things:
What is Northumberland, and why don't you have the advanced water on

Northnumberland, along with Wales, Cornwall and probably one more nation starts as independent in Shattered Europe mod. They're druidic religion, so when they form Britannia they'll have a badass flag as well
And I like the plain water more, I'd say.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on July 12, 2012, 09:17:54 am
Me and Jay are playing victoria 2 more often currently, and Jubin seems to have vanished
Slander! Slander I say! I have not vanished anywhere, just can't play EU3 right now. So might go back to Victoria: Revolutions for now.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: EenBeeFour on July 12, 2012, 09:58:42 am
 Not a fan of Hearts of Iron 2 and Victoria 1, I can't get used to the interface

Imo I play Hearts of Iron 3 the most out of them all, once you figure out the basics you catch on and play it more, and then you start to learn even more about all of it
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on July 13, 2012, 01:43:24 pm
It would be good if someone could actually merge all the topics about any EU,Vicki or HOI.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: EenBeeFour on July 13, 2012, 02:24:33 pm
It would be good if someone could actually merge all the topics about any EU,Vicki or HOI.

Replace topics with games and you have a great idea right there
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on July 13, 2012, 02:38:09 pm
Replace topics with games and you have a great idea right there
You do know there's converters for that, so you can first play EU then convert that to a Vicki save game and play that and later convert that to HOI and you can get from 1399 till 1950s ( or whenever HOI campaign ends)
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: EenBeeFour on July 13, 2012, 02:41:43 pm
You do know there's converters for that, so you can first play EU then convert that to a Vicki save game and play that and later convert that to HOI and you can get from 1399 till 1950s ( or whenever HOI campaign ends)

Yeah, I'm not sure where to get them though, sounds like a great idea.

A few people have told me though the provinces aren't, would try it still.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: JayL on July 13, 2012, 06:28:55 pm
I don't really like HOI, I'd prefer a Vic2 mod that changes tech, timespan, etc etc...

Would actually try making one myself if I had time.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Jubin on July 13, 2012, 10:30:26 pm
My preference would be EU 3 - HOI2 - Vicki 2 - Vicki - HOI 3.
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: ElMartu on July 13, 2012, 10:39:20 pm
yeah my suggestion would be to name this thread to Grand Strategy/Paradox thread, and lock the rest
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: EenBeeFour on July 13, 2012, 11:27:09 pm
yeah my suggestion would be to name this thread to Grand Strategy/Paradox thread, and lock the rest

Agreed
Title: Re: Europa Universalis 3
Post by: Call_me_Dad on July 14, 2012, 04:42:04 am
This game takes a lot of patience. There are times when you would just be tempted to click the resign button and start all over again.
The main point to play this is to suppress that urge, have moderate ambitions, accept your defeats (No empire is unbeatable) and play the game at default settings.

There are these cheats, option settings, modding files that make this game too easy.
But once you do that, you get bored of this game.

Difficulty: Easy, AI Aggressiveness: Low, Merchants: Free, Colonist size: 400, Inflation: None.
Such settings would make this game easier. But that aint no fun.
Fun is when you have to deal with every cultural, economic, military etc. aspect of the game and each one of them is trying to take you down.



I usually pick Indian empires, as I know about the Indian history so it makes the game more interesting.
Just started the game with Rajputana.

Long Term plan: Survive.
Indian peninsula is plagued with religious wars during this period. Almost every empire has a 'Religious Liberation' Cassus Belli (spell?) on others. The ones who dont have that, form cross alliances and get other causes of war.
My plan is to defend against the Sunni attackers and survive somehow. Meanwhile improve my technology and economy for later part of game.
I will get alliance offers from Bihar and Gondwana. I dont plan to accept those, because they will be calling me to arms in their meaningless religious wars.
I plan to just watch and see other empires exhaust each other in these wars. Timurid would crumble and disintegrate into Kohistan, Baluchistan etc. Maybe a few spies in Delhi would give way to Punjabi Nationalists.
After I have an edge in technolgy and economy, ill strike down the empires with less alliances. Hopefully some of them will be bankrupt or have a very high infamy or War Exhaustion.
If somehow I can ally with Ming that would solve a lot of issues. No one dares to declare war on Ming.
Along with that, sending spies and supporting revolts in the bigger (infamous) nations would eventually bring them down. When they are busy combating revolts, ill try to make them my vassal. If I get some cores on forign provinces, ill try to get them. Else, it is better to have a smaller empire, as it is easier to administrate.

Short Term plan:
Take control on Sind's province - 'Kutch'
Kutch is a Sind province that is not on border with Timurids and is a coastal trading CoT.
Sind has no army to begin with and is constantly troubled by Timurid. Unless that have some good alliances, Kutch will be easy to take over.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on July 14, 2012, 08:48:36 am
Call_Me_Dad, "Casus belli" means "reason".

I generally play as Brunei on Easy or Normal and the rest of the settings on the default, because Brunei is practically Australia of that time, even if it says the difficulty is high when it really isn't.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 14, 2012, 10:15:30 pm
tbh settings are best left untouched for max difficulty, except the actual 'Difficulty' one, which you put on Very Hard

I play everything I can, I don't really have a favorite nation at all... But I never played a long game of India or SE Asia, I admit.

Little progress on my Granada/Spain game, I'm planning to annex Milan and then move onwards to the balkans after that. Meanwhile I'm increasing my narrowminded slider (It was full innovative, jesus) to get more than +0.15 missionaries per year.

Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 21, 2012, 06:10:54 am
fucking BUMP

playing grand multiplayer game with 4 other nice fellows as no other than BYZANTIUM

it's ~1430 and i've taken back most cores. Truth be told it wasn't as hard as I thought, just have a ship or two more than the Ottoman fleet and catch them at war with Timurids and it's done. But it cost me 15 war exhaustion and enacting Liberum Veto, and a grand loan of 250 ducats and a 10000 men army from Muscovy (mr. JayL). All in all I couldn't have done it without him, but now I'm pretty much the only power in Eastern Europe, owning the balkans up to Macedonia and half of Asia minor.

I'm dark red in the technology map
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on July 21, 2012, 06:18:23 am
I just got Crusader Kings 2, it's hard, but I'm getting the hang of it

People are telling me to start as a Duke because you don't have much responsibility and can learn about everything.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Void on July 22, 2012, 03:40:59 am
I was wondering: Since I got Vicky2, what's the best strategy for Serbia?

Here's what I did:
1) Taxed the pops heavily so I can build something - had some bumps the first few years
2) Cement factory seemed appropriate so I built it
3) After messing around trade(still unfamiliar with this game aspect), I finally got something to work with
4) Amassed a decent army of 25k(with mobilization on) since my main neighbours are Austrian and Ottoman Empire
5) Luckily, Russia and Austria got into a war and I managed to add a wargoal on south Serbia and north Macedonia(They usually ally with Ottomans, I don't know why)
6) Got out alive from the war with the spoil(Lost 75% of my army)
7) Am going slowly bankrupt now and my pops are dissatisfied (I get spammed by events such as "Bulgarian martyr" in my south cores.)

What is the best way to get rid of infamy and use my industry the best way? I have timber potential in the south provinces but I don't know what to research to get the Mill. Any tips on how to get back on feet fast?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 22, 2012, 04:22:59 am
Serbia is a really hard nation because of the very low starting population and the dependance on other nations (Russia) to win your wars. You do not want to have any industry whatsoever, since you want your people to be Soldiers, not Craftsmen. There is probably little you can do to avoid bankruptcy, other than taxing your pops 100%, decreasing spendings (especially the National Stockpile) and increasing Tariffs by a bit, only a bit, because 100% leaves your pops with no money to gain taxes from. In short, I'd say you're pretty much fucked - try playing an easier nation.

I just got Crusader Kings 2, it's hard, but I'm getting the hang of it

People are telling me to start as a Duke because you don't have much responsibility and can learn about everything.

I haven't played CK2 at all but I hear any lord from Ireland is a good choice - you're left alone and can unify the island without too much outside interference.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Ness on July 22, 2012, 04:50:25 am
I am made a big FUCK to turkey and all other fucks with SERBIA .
MARTU TELL THEM ABOUT IT
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Void on July 22, 2012, 04:53:24 am
Serbia is a really hard nation because of the very low starting population and the dependance on other nations (Russia) to win your wars. You do not want to have any industry whatsoever, since you want your people to be Soldiers, not Craftsmen. There is probably little you can do to avoid bankruptcy, other than taxing your pops 100%, decreasing spendings (especially the National Stockpile) and increasing Tariffs by a bit, only a bit, because 100% leaves your pops with no money to gain taxes from. In short, I'd say you're pretty much f**ked - try playing an easier nation.
I'll try to do something with it tomorrow. Will post some screen shots as well.
If anyone is interested in Vicky2 online, drop me a message.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 22, 2012, 05:06:38 am
Yeah Jay playing as mother russia helped tiny wimpy Ness-controlled Serbia become Yugoslavia.  :lol:

A vicky game can be arranged bro but we're mostly playing EU3. It's at about 9 PM CET onwards, every day. Just be sure you're available at least 5/7 days of the week if you want in, we're rather addicted to it.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Ness on July 22, 2012, 05:36:54 am
f**k that, it was all me, motherf**ker. Martu, don't you remember how I invaded Russia and Jay was f**king begging me to stop, even threatening to quit the game? He even denies it when we tell everyone...
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on July 22, 2012, 06:46:23 am
I haven't played CK2 at all but I hear any lord from Ireland is a good choice - you're left alone and can unify the island without too much outside interference.

Ireland is always the first country to get invaded by the English empire, I always play as my own as a duke between the two Papal provinces and attempt to become independent, which really isn't hard when you can pay for mercenaries and control the papal states since there is only 3 of them

A cool thing about the game is that there is an addon for a character creator, which is really fun because you can edit traits and all that.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: JayL on July 23, 2012, 04:05:57 am
f**k that, it was all me, motherf**ker. Martu, don't you remember how I invaded Russia and Jay was f**king begging me to stop, even threatening to quit the game? He even denies it when we tell everyone...

Why do you not question my abilities on this game like a man and back up your claims?
Or instead admit that you would have not learnt to play Vic2 without mine and Martu's help, and neither would you have taken any kebab soil without my military backing. :D
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on July 23, 2012, 08:27:55 am
Why do you not question my abilities on this game like a man and back up your claims?
Or instead admit that you would have not learnt to play Vic2 without mine and Martu's help, and neither would you have taken any kebab soil without my military backing. :D

What version of Vic2 do you play? I'll play.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on July 23, 2012, 08:39:18 am
f**k that, it was all me, motherf**ker. Martu, don't you remember how I invaded Russia and Jay was f**king begging me to stop, even threatening to quit the game? He even denies it when we tell everyone...
Really? That is something I would like to see, that how Serbia on his own without Russia's help would become Yugoslavia. As even if you see the Vicki2 wiki you'll see that:

Quote
Reclaiming Serbia

Immediately, or better, before you do this, get an alliance with Russia. If she doesn't accept first, try again. If you don't succeed the second time, start a new game, and try AGAIN. This is EXTREMELY important. Next, declare war on Austria to get Slavonia.

    Why Austria? Somehow, in 1.2, Russia is prone to lose against the Ottoman Empire, despite the superior numbers and equipment.

There is nothing much to do here. Try not to lose your army, and with some luck, Russia wins the war for you, AND she doesn't "liberate" West or East Galicia for herself, then you get Slavonia. Woops, Serbia, you got two regions! Congrats. If you lose, wait for the next war, or simply start another game.
So yeah, starting with Serbia ALWAYS includes having Russia help you out. Can't do anything on your own.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 23, 2012, 08:59:41 am
It's ness, jub, you just chuckle and say "sure thing bro :)"
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Ness on July 23, 2012, 09:05:50 am
It's ness, jub, you just chuckle and say "sure thing bro :)"
Thank you for backing me up. As you can see, Martu is vouching for my honesty and acknowledges that my statement was true...
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on July 23, 2012, 09:22:49 am
Thank you for backing me up. As you can see, Martu is vouching for my honesty and acknowledges that my statement was true...
sure thing bro :)

Post Merge: July 24, 2012, 02:15:17 pm
Although I am sure most of the players here are aware of this place I'm still Just putting this link up here, for anyone who is interested of some General and also specific country hints/tips guides etc on all of the games discussed here.

http://www.paradoxian.org/ (http://www.paradoxian.org/)
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 24, 2012, 08:11:51 pm
yeah the EU3 wiki is good

Victoria, not so much, almost nothing is updated to the new expansion
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Void on July 27, 2012, 11:13:57 pm
A dilemma here guys, hear me out.
I have a desktop PC and a laptop all going through a single wireless router(Desktop uses ethernet cable while laptop uses wireless). Can I play Victoria II with my mates using these settings and if yes, how? If your answer is "no", what do I need to change?
Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 27, 2012, 11:35:00 pm
tbh Tunngle is the best option, by far

you have to open ports and stuff like that to connect thru direct IP, and it's a bit complicated, even more so than other games
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Void on July 28, 2012, 12:39:39 am
tbh Tunngle is the best option, by far
you have to open ports and stuff like that to connect thru direct IP, and it's a bit complicated, even more so than other games
Tried Tunngle but still, we can't see each other in rooms even after forwarding the ports.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on July 28, 2012, 01:55:44 am
You should be able to play with those settings like any normal LAN game without any extra programs. Just make sure same version, firewall not blocking and any other usual suspects. If that doesn't work, just get some long cable for the laptop. Although that shouldn't be necessary.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 28, 2012, 08:22:48 am
Tried Tunngle but still, we can't see each other in rooms even after forwarding the ports.

if you forwarded ports, you could just try using direct IP for connecting i mean, look up the ports you need for EU3, they are 6xxx, I forgot them now




(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/594725347968927196/35A59AF7547D9713D461B616E3A860AF1E1F568B/)

(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/594725347968921421/24CF3D0BD494FDB744C9A68C09EAC16E46EA5CD0/)

(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/594725347968911512/59088EB30164ACD3DFF4123EFE9045E202987A6C/)

dat french africa

Victoria 2 AHD 2.31 with New Nations Mod Full



oh i started as two sicilies btw
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on July 29, 2012, 12:11:14 am
Before 1868: "Which side to pick, Prussia or France, Prussia or France"

Year 1868 - Germany forms, starts to industralize like crazy, brings it's troops near my border.

"Ahhhhh, Ummmm. I think I'll take Prussia's side" Relationship with Prussia: -200.

1882 - Prussia declares war. "oh, well at least France guaranteed my independance and sides with me, this might not be all over.

1883
(http://i45.tinypic.com/s5cppi.png)

"Aaah, shiiit"
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 29, 2012, 03:28:36 am
From the little I understand from that picture, at least you managed to push the Dutch back quite a bit before being buttfucked by the german rape train
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Ness on July 29, 2012, 07:28:03 am
Before 1868: "Which side to pick, Prussia or France, Prussia or France"

Year 1868 - Germany forms, starts to industralize like crazy, brings it's troops near my border.

"Ahhhhh, Ummmm. I think I'll take Prussia's side" Relationship with Prussia: -200.

1882 - Prussia declares war. "oh, well at least France guaranteed my independance and sides with me, this might not be all over.

1883
(http://i45.tinypic.com/s5cppi.png)

"Aaah, shiiit"

is that iron bois 3 or w/e you guys call it ???
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on July 29, 2012, 07:37:39 am
That's Victoria: Revolutions

(http://www.gamershell.com/static/streaming/20230/20230_medium.jpg)

This is how Hearts of Iron 3 looks like.
From the little I understand from that picture, at least you managed to push the Dutch back quite a bit before being buttf**ked by the german rape train
Well that's easy enough to do, also got Liberia out of the USA hands, thanks to the British.


Between Three Powers!
Poland

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/herefordandworcester/features/2002/04/images/poland_300.gif)

"Ahoy fellows! Good news! Czar  Nicholas I sent us a good word. He wrote that, thanks to our great service in the Russian Empire he has decided to give us a greater autonomity. This calls for some vodka!" " Hail to the new King! Hip-hip hurrraaaa!"
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/U%C5%82ani_Ksi%C4%99stwa_Warszawskiego.JPG/369px-U%C5%82ani_Ksi%C4%99stwa_Warszawskiego.JPG)

"So my Highness what is store for the great realm of Poland" "Well, my good sir if this is between us I'll tell you. I have decided to unite together all the Poles. Unite them together once again under one banner." "But that, my highness means we must go against the Russians" "Well, if we must, then we shall."

(http://s18.postimage.org/5es6tjlfd/Esimene.png)

"Tell me, Minister of economy, what's the status of the country. What is still rightfully ours?" "My King, we have some of our farmers harvesting grain, other resources consist of fruits and cattle also one province has sheep." "That's not much, but it has to do for now."

(http://s18.postimage.org/3kfcbsyex/Teine.png)

"Where's our Home Secretary?" "Over here, your highness!" "What's the situation of my nation!" " Total amount of our population reaches to 659 000, my king, over 90 percent of them are farmers." "What about nationality wise?" " Almost 91 percent are polish and the 9 percent are Russians who are loyal to your crown." "Good."
"Minister of Defence, do we have any available troops?" "No, my liege, all the soldiers were true to Czar and serve him."

(http://s18.postimage.org/kc0nujynt/Kolmas.png)

1836 - 1856
1848
"My King! My King! Kra....Krak.." "Calm down now Minister, what news to you bear to me about foreign lands today that are so urgent!" "There are uprisings in Krakow and northern parts of Austria. They might defect to our Kingdom, if the Austrians won't bring them down in time, as those are rightfully your territories." "We have to wait and see."
(http://s18.postimage.org/o1vp9pl4p/Neljas.png)

1850
"My King! You have to hurry, they are here!" "Who is?" "The rebel scum" "They don't like the way you run the country." "No trouble, I'll defeat them by myself!" Loud noise is heard and the palace door opens, single shot and the body falls to the ground! " POWER TO THE PEOPLE!"

(http://s18.postimage.org/seyu5vj95/viies.png)

1851
"My fellow citizens! Listen to me now! It's been exactly one year since the King has been dead. No longer will the Polish people let one single man decide, what is right for the whole realm. From now on we are DEMOCRACY!"
(http://s18.postimage.org/ha5a6uw55/kuues.png)

1852-1856

"Mr President. The French have leaned on Russia!" "On which issue, my good sir?" "Poland, Mr President!" "Care to explain sir?" "Mr President....We are now Independent nation!" "That's great news! What are you waiting for, go and let the papers know. The people must know about this"
(http://s18.postimage.org/y0gnw6uk9/seitsmes.png)

"My fellow politicians, I have gathered you around here today, to recap the last 20 years of our great nations. So how are we doing?" "Mr President, well our situation has been improved. We are now sovereign state with no one to answer to. Our population has grew over 200 000 people, we are getting close to one million. Also our people can read and write more these days, although it's still less than half. Also our economy has grew a bit, our income is always greater than or expenditure"
"So, any downsides?"" Well, if you already asked Mr President. There are some major concerns. We don't have any capitalists sir, yet our people are liberal. We need more capitalists!" "That shouldn't be a problem, just get some money from our countries fund and educate some people to become capitalists" "But there's not enough money, sir." "I know, why won't we sell our technology to other countries, then use that money!" "Well sir, there's one problem with that. We aren't seen as trustworthy country in the world and they don't want to negotiate with us." "Anything else?" "Yes, we still don't have any divisions in our army and some people are getting restless" "Well I guess we have our work cut out for us. No time wasting. Meeting over."
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 29, 2012, 07:56:46 pm
Democracy? Game over man, game over

And what happened with Belgium? Germany was too rough on you? :D
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on July 29, 2012, 08:18:52 pm
Democracy? Game over man, game over

And what happened with Belgium? Germany was too rough on you? :D
Yeah, abandoned Belgium. Got wedged between two too Great powers. Also Democracy doesn't mean game over in Ricky( Victoria: revolutions) Democracy is a great crowd pleaser as is Liberals with their Laissez-Faire policy. Although I have also abandoned Poland for the reason I had never before encountered in my country - emigration.

(http://i45.tinypic.com/2mm5ke9.png)

I have now moved onto Finland. Playing that have inspired me to write an event into my Victoria. I want to write an event that would make any nationality that is more than 15% of my population an accepted culture if your government has "Limited Citizenship" or "Full Citizenship"

Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 29, 2012, 08:24:28 pm
Democracies in small countries are a huge problem - with a LF policy, and no capitalists, you will never get an industry rolling, I always find they need a little start with State Capitalism before handing them over to the AI to manage properly.

Also, if you make that event, make it so it's only applicable for Free States, else you're going to end up with accepted cultures of Africa, especially if you're a small nation like Netherlands or Belgium.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on July 29, 2012, 08:33:38 pm
Democracies in small countries are a huge problem - with a LF policy, and no capitalists, you will never get an industry rolling, I always find they need a little start with State Capitalism before handing them over to the AI to manage properly.

Also, if you make that event, make it so it's only applicable for Free States, else you're going to end up with accepted cultures of Africa, especially if you're a small nation like Netherlands or Belgium.
Well getting capitalists is easy and then they get it started, costs around 8k gold what you can get from selling your tech. Nah, not gonna put that restriction to only from free states. Although I still have to think it over how to exactly do that, because in that way yeah getting colonies to become statehood will become too easy and then industralization will be game ruining.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 29, 2012, 08:40:00 pm
yeah it reminds me how for some very odd reason I have a free state in the middle of today's Sudan, which about 15% italian pop... I have no idea how they got there, and how the state stopped being a colony by itself.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on July 29, 2012, 08:45:52 pm
Victoria 2? There you have your 1% bureaucrats and it can be made into a state. My game - the colonies primary culture must be accepted one.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 29, 2012, 08:57:01 pm
no it's 1% crats of accepted culture

which can be done with ~10% of primary culture in the place, if you encourage bureaucrats until you have way more than needed

still I never clicked in make free state, so i have no idea how it got there. capitalists made a factory in there, too, which is failing due to a lack of craftsmen. :D
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on July 29, 2012, 09:10:41 pm
no it's 1% crats of accepted culture

which can be done with ~10% of primary culture in the place, if you encourage bureaucrats until you have way more than needed

still I never clicked in make free state, so i have no idea how it got there. capitalists made a factory in there, too, which is failing due to a lack of craftsmen. :D
Italians don't trust Africans to do their dirty work, so have to get there themselves? :D

Anyway here it is.

(http://i48.tinypic.com/10wijvd.png)

Those 40% Irish are all just immigrants, as I have no other territories beside what you can see on the screen! Also the immigration wave has not ended. Soon I am sure those guys will just say: "Fuck it, we'll never get free under the UK. Let's better claim Finland to ourselves and call it Ireland"
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 29, 2012, 09:53:59 pm
LOL i was going through each chart and i was like, "yep, all good", then I saw the culture... shit, I guess you've made an utopia of sorts, to have so many different cultures as an European nation.

Also is that Scandinavia?
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Kirgiz on July 29, 2012, 10:36:58 pm
yes. Look thats finland, below is Reval (Tallinn) and there's Novgorod...
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on July 29, 2012, 11:00:38 pm

Also is that Scandinavia?
Yup, that's Scandinavia, formed by Sweden.
Heres the list of the nationalities you can find in my country in alphabetical order: British, Finnish, Greek, Irish, North Italian,  Polish, Russian, South German, Spanish and Swedish. That is all, for now. Total of 3.8 million people, when I started at 1836 I had 800k.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 29, 2012, 11:34:14 pm
yes. Look thats finland, below is Reval (Tallinn) and there's Novgorod...

I meant Scandinavia as an unified state :), my bad for not specifying

Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on July 30, 2012, 01:10:04 am
Reached 1886 so a little update gonna put new nationalities in bold inside the quote!
Yup, that's Scandinavia, formed by Sweden.
Heres the list of the nationalities you can find in my country in alphabetical order: British,Bulgarian, Czech, Estonian Finnish,French, Greek,Hungarian, Irish,Lithuanian,North German, North Italian,  Polish,Romanian, Russian,Serb, South German,South Italian, Spanish, Swedish and Ukrainian That is all, for now. Total of 3.8 million people, when I started at 1836 I had 800k.
Now, my Population has grown to 13.5 million. So around 10mil in 20 years, so around 500k/year. I also now have bigger population than Scandinavia!

(http://i47.tinypic.com/vdj1ao.png)

Also when checking most of the people from North Germany are clerks, liberal and Jewish - on another note, Germany formed.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 30, 2012, 01:11:52 am
That's f**ked up, bro.

(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594725347993960661/A4A1BF971AECA00A81F18848D8F866AB38F95F4C/)

man this is the prettiest europe ever

ignore snake Italian Africa at the bottom
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on July 30, 2012, 01:16:10 am
You helped out Serbia? I do agree though, it is beautiful Europe, seems kind of calm on a map.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 30, 2012, 02:47:51 am
Yes, yes I did. :D

It may be calm for now but in a couple years after some truces wear out it will be madness again.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on July 30, 2012, 09:20:27 pm
Still on my Finnish game

(http://i47.tinypic.com/wlvfci.png)

Quick update. In 1890 got new liberal party, which had pro military, so that's good. Started building my army and waiting for my moment to attack Russia to get out of my satellite status. I got my moment in 1913 when Russia started a war against Germany and Austria. Quickly mobilization my troops to the border and then attacked. Like it always is Russia then made truce with Austrians and Germans and concentrated on me. But it was already too late for him as I had already occupied too great of his territory and his war exhaustion was too great. So I offered him a white peace and he accepted.

After the war I quickly built up the relationship with Russia again, just so he wouldn't attack me after the truce would end. Mission accomplished as I got him to sign a defensive alliance. From other side Scandinavia also wanted an alliance which I agreed on, knowing that I would eventually have to fight the Germans.
In 1921 Russia started another war against Germans and I saw an opportunity in it to expand my own territory in the expense of the Germans and so I did!
By now I have 80 mil people in my country and my rank is 5th with German, UK, Italy and Russia before me.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 31, 2012, 01:21:06 am
I guess that's total population, not adult male - 80 millon would be so fucked up, I don't even reach 23 as Italy in 1900
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on July 31, 2012, 01:29:19 am
I guess that's total population, not adult male - 80 millon would be so f**ked up, I don't even reach 23 as Italy in 1900
Actually that would be adult males. The difference, beside the game, is that I have still massive amount of immigrants coming in, while I guess your Italy does not.

Edit: And here's the final score of the Finnish game.

(http://i48.tinypic.com/34iofmq.png)
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 31, 2012, 02:56:22 am
Actually that would be adult males. The difference, beside the game, is that I have still massive amount of immigrants coming in, while I guess your Italy does not.

Edit: And here's the final score of the Finnish game.

(http://i48.tinypic.com/34iofmq.png)

DUDE

DUDE I OWN HALF OF AFRICA

how

that is SO fucked up man, according to the engame stats you have almost 3.5 millon habitants per province
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on July 31, 2012, 12:10:40 pm
DUDE

DUDE I OWN HALF OF AFRICA

how

that is SO f**ked up man, according to the engame stats you have almost 3.5 millon habitants per province
Well most populated provinces - Tornio - 10.6 mil, Oulu -  9.8 mil, Kajaani - 10.1 mil, Kuopio - 10 mil, Mikkeli - 8.2 mil, Kotka - 9.8 mil. Other provinces stay around 1 to 2 million usually depending on how late of the game I got my hands on them and how great of a immigration magnets are they (For some reason immigrants loved Sweden)

Some more end game thoughts. Playing Ricky it seems Immigration is the way to go. Just too bad that it's hard to do in Victoria 2, due to capitalists being imbeciles in Victoria 2. Also being satellite sucks, especially when being satellite to Russia, as you have to wait a long time to get the chance to ever be free and in my case I was not able to do any colonization.

Well onto a new game.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: JayL on July 31, 2012, 04:42:37 pm
Some more end game thoughts. Playing Ricky it seems Immigration is the way to go. Just too bad that it's hard to do in Victoria 2, due to capitalists being imbeciles in Victoria 2.

Victoria 2's emigration factors are not coded well. POPs are oriented to emigrate depending on life needs fulfillment, militancy, consciousness and moralism/residency if they do not belong to current state's religion/culture. Minor stuff like agreement with ruling party also counts, but the increasement that each factor gives to the emigration chance seems too small to provoke big emigration if a country is making its population upset and so on.

Yesterday I was playing around with a new emigration factor code. They should change and include factors such as money reserves and increase the factor contributions to general emigration chance.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on July 31, 2012, 07:06:52 pm
Also Victoria gives a huge immigration bonuses to Democracies and nations in America. That, combined with some exclusive national decisions make the USA usually get the most immigrants in the entire game. And it makes sense, because c'mon... who wants to move to a frozen place like Finland? :D

Italy's about to unlock Armored vehicles very soon.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Ness on July 31, 2012, 07:09:53 pm
jubin 1v1 me
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on July 31, 2012, 09:39:19 pm
Currently playing as Croatia and it all went well till I forgot about badboy score, accepted a lot of territories from Ottoman, got my badboy over 80 and then had to wage a continuation war against Austria, what I did win, but still not cool to have 80BB.

end of my Croatian game:


(http://i50.tinypic.com/15gxovq.png)
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on August 01, 2012, 03:09:15 am
i still think it's ridiculous how easy it is to net immigrants in the first Victoria.

I'll eventually post pics of Jay and I's empires in an EU3 multiplayer session. We just beat the golden horde together
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on August 01, 2012, 11:44:38 am
i still think it's ridiculous how easy it is to net immigrants in the first Victoria.
Also Victoria gives a huge immigration bonuses to Democracies and nations in America. That, combined with some exclusive national decisions make the USA usually get the most immigrants in the entire game. And it makes sense, because c'mon... who wants to move to a frozen place like Finland? :D
Well, my country also was a Democracy, which offered Good social reforms (maximum pensions, healthcare etc) beside the workhour and maximum political reforms (well actually I did have only the wealthiest could vote, not universal sufferage) and as well the country was high in plurality, so hold high the fact that it has so many nations in it as fell as full citizenship, so that when you immigrate into it, you can become a citizen.
Now tell me Martu, why wouldn't you want to move to a country like this?

 :ps: This is how Croatia looked like in the end.

(http://i47.tinypic.com/2i1icg7.png)

EDIT: Now I also just checked USA in my Croatian game and well USA had turned into a Facist Presidental Dictatorship at some point of the game.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on August 01, 2012, 05:19:33 pm
Now tell me Martu, why wouldn't you want to move to a country like this?

Because a hundred years wasn't enough for you to form Yugoslavia
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on August 01, 2012, 05:43:27 pm
Because a hundred years wasn't enough for you to form Yugoslavia

Because in Ricky no such country exists/can't be formed. What do you want, me to create  a new country into the game just to prove it to you that I can get it in 100 years?
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on August 01, 2012, 06:16:50 pm
whatever
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on August 04, 2012, 01:04:12 am
Installed Victoria Improvement Project mod. Here's the end stats of my Sardinia-Piedmont/Italy game.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2me62qh.png)
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: JayL on August 04, 2012, 02:42:15 am
Ahaha, I love the way end game screens are formatted in Victoria.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on August 04, 2012, 07:27:47 am
I could never get the hang of games that used the game engine before Europa Universalis 3, it was too stuffy and more complex :L
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on August 04, 2012, 07:30:44 am
They aren't more complex, the info isn't just as well layered as in the newer games

though Darkest Hour (mod of Hearts of Iron 2) is essentially the most complex war game ever.

Also, Jay, you complain about Victoria 2's immigration? Seems like an improvement over the first game, I mean, lol, 250 millon people in the thirties :D
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on August 04, 2012, 02:21:46 pm
Also wanted to show this from my Italy game

(http://i50.tinypic.com/30kqeyv.png)

All of the green area isn't just my allies territories, but my satellites. So here it how it went.
As the game begins France started to become friendlier with me and helped me to unify the Italy. The prestige boost I got from that although was so great that I became a greater power than France itself. Then Prussia and Austria had their little fight and north German Fed and South German formed. Now France had it's German unification war against Prussia and co and asked me to help him out. I knew France couldn't win it by itself so I went and helped him, but because I am greater power I talked for the whole alliance. First war just white peaced and gained some prestige. After 5 years Prussia and France was at it again and I had to intervene once again on the French side, this time I was much more prepared and the war wen't well. We crushed all that was on our path so both North German fed and Prussia were forced to become satellites, and because I was talking for the alliance, then they became my satellites.
As now I had Prussia as my ally I thought I'd try and get my Austrian land back, while the South German fed was on Austrians side. The war started at first all went well, but as I didn't have artillery with me and Prussia made a separate deal with the Prussians, givng Prussia all it's cores back, I had to back down as well and settled with only getting back Milano. Although that was also a separate deal and I was still fighting South German feds who I knew I could beat. So I went to conquer them to make them my satellite.
What I didn't know was that meantime 5 years had passed of the last French-Prussian war. This time although, I was not invited by the French. That was critical mistake as France couldn't Handle Prussia on it's own, losing the war and making the German unification start by Prussia. So the Germany unified under one banner simultaneously as I was conquering South German Fed. What then they told me was that: "Hey, Italy, dude we united Germany." while my troops were "Wait, what? I control these lands, and what happened to South German Fed?" "There are no South German fed, but you know, take the lands you control to yourself."

So, Germany formed, but as it was from Prussia, my satellite, it remained my satellite. I was now waiting for my peace with Austria to wear itself out, so that 2nd war of Austria-Italy could start, this time backed with Germany. This time it was also a successful one with me also making Austria my satellite and getting back all Italian land it had.
After the war Germany was still concentrating on getting his army as good as possible and I thought I should not let it go waste. So this is what happened:
(http://i46.tinypic.com/sbscj9.png)

Italy declaring war on Russia, never even with an intention of sending any troops there to fight. Against Russia this happened twice- First time I thought Germany should get what it deserved for fighting the war, so he got land out of it (I got the prestige). Second time it was to make Russia Italian satellite.
All this time France had been a great sport and been a true ally to Italy, but well I just couldn't let it be just an ally when I wanted it to be my subject. This meant war and as Germany on my side it was quite easy. France had to give Germany it's land back and become a satellite to Italy.
Same story happened to Ottoman, Spain, Sweden, Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Wallachia and Mexico
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on August 11, 2012, 06:04:51 am
http://kotaku.com/europa-universalis-iv/
http://kotaku.com/europa-universalis-iv/
http://kotaku.com/europa-universalis-iv/
http://kotaku.com/europa-universalis-iv/
http://kotaku.com/europa-universalis-iv/
http://kotaku.com/europa-universalis-iv/
http://kotaku.com/europa-universalis-iv/

OH GOD I CAME SO HARD THAT FUCKING MAP
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on August 11, 2012, 08:30:12 am
http://kotaku.com/europa-universalis-iv/
http://kotaku.com/europa-universalis-iv/
http://kotaku.com/europa-universalis-iv/
http://kotaku.com/europa-universalis-iv/
http://kotaku.com/europa-universalis-iv/
http://kotaku.com/europa-universalis-iv/
http://kotaku.com/europa-universalis-iv/

OH GOD I CAME SO HARD THAT f**kING MAP

Naice
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on August 11, 2012, 01:00:19 pm
Good. I do have to agree with the article that Paradoxes tutorials are quite rubbish to understnad the game and a lot of times for me at least it even creates more confusion. Most of these games I have always learned by studying one aspect at a time while playing Grand Campaign making it at least 5 games that doesn't go very far before I start a new one.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on August 11, 2012, 07:22:07 pm
yeah i had to play several games of EU3 and victoria before i could understand them

even after managing to unite the HRE I still couldn't fully understand some things
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on August 12, 2012, 05:02:05 am
I just realized the map is exactly the same as the Crusader King 2 map, maybe the world in that game is just a preview of the new Europa Universalis 4 map?
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on August 12, 2012, 05:45:12 am
I just realized the map is exactly the same as the Crusader King 2 map, maybe the world in that game is just a preview of the new Europa Universalis 4 map?

uh it obviously is a preview of EUIV's map

and it's also obviously using the same graphics as CK2
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on August 12, 2012, 06:40:37 am
uh it obviously is a preview of EUIV's map


So, you're telling me, Crusader Kings 2 is just a complete waste of time for Paradox Interactive, and they only used it to show off a new map?

Don't say that it is "obviously" a preview when the trailer was just released, because that is one of the few pieces of information you are using to make it seem "obvious"
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: JayL on August 12, 2012, 07:05:09 am
I really hope things such as North-eastern Portugal and North-western Russia (most specifically Komi not being a damn wasteland) get retouched. They make the map depressing - I even developed a personal mod to turn Komi into a regular province.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on August 12, 2012, 07:39:41 pm
So, you're telling me, Crusader Kings 2 is just a complete waste of time for Paradox Interactive, and they only used it to show off a new map?

Don't say that it is "obviously" a preview when the trailer was just released, because that is one of the few pieces of information you are using to make it seem "obvious"

I meant the trailer was used as a preview of sorts, not CK2, god, the game is great and has way more things going than just the pretty map.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on August 13, 2012, 11:29:10 am
I meant the trailer was used as a preview of sorts, not CK2, god, the game is great and has way more things going than just the pretty map.

Than say the Trailer, to me you were implying Crusader Kings.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on August 13, 2012, 10:30:32 pm
uh my bad i guess

also i tried forming russia as fast as possible, and i came down to the last mission needed, integrate Smolensk into our nation, by 1437. I'd get a core on their capital and I'd be able to form Russia. Except their capital wasn't Smolensk, it was Byransk, so i've to wait until 1487 now
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on August 14, 2012, 01:01:20 am
uh my bad i guess

also i tried forming russia as fast as possible, and i came down to the last mission needed, integrate Smolensk into our nation, by 1437. I'd get a core on their capital and I'd be able to form Russia. Except their capital wasn't Smolensk, it was Byransk, so i've to wait until 1487 now
Because of this I'll cry myself to sleep tonight.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: JayL on August 14, 2012, 02:01:52 am
uh my bad i guess

also i tried forming russia as fast as possible, and i came down to the last mission needed, integrate Smolensk into our nation, by 1437. I'd get a core on their capital and I'd be able to form Russia. Except their capital wasn't Smolensk, it was Byransk, so i've to wait until 1487 now

You're really lucky to get a generic mission instead of a specific Russian Mission. The Russian ones have a chance factor of 500-1000 while the generic one has a factor of 1 with two 1.5 modifiers. Lol.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on August 14, 2012, 02:06:02 am
You're really lucky to get a generic mission instead of a specific Russian Mission. The Russian ones have a chance factor of 500-1000 while the generic one has a factor of 1 with two 1.5 modifiers. Lol.

yeah maybe i was terribly lucky or i just ran out of russian missions - can you get missions against Horde when you're paying them tribute?
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on August 19, 2012, 09:25:53 am
East Vs. West (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?725-East-vs.-West)

A new title announced starting directly after HoI3.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on August 19, 2012, 09:47:20 pm
East Vs. West (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?725-East-vs.-West)

A new title announced starting directly after HoI3.
oh God why do I think this is gonna be a disastrous.  In my mind there is a picture of Switzerland just H-bombing the fuck out of all world.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on August 19, 2012, 10:49:53 pm
yeah i dont think it's going to be really good because of the lack of historical wars in the period (vietnam doesnt count ok)

And while you probably will be able to nuke the shit out of other countries, it will be really ahistorical so it isn't really nice
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on August 20, 2012, 01:54:12 am
yeah i dont think it's going to be really good because of the lack of historical wars in the period (vietnam doesnt count ok)

And while you probably will be able to nuke the shit out of other countries, it will be really ahistorical so it isn't really nice
You mean as an opportunity to expand? Oh man there are so many wars beside Vietnamese. Think what happened after the war. All of the empires basically collapsed. Creating a lot and I mean a lot of countries especially in Africa which of course then started wars. Beside those Korean War and Afghanistan started as well.India against Pakistan. Israel in the Middle East. Cuban missile crysis could turn into war. As well as a lot of South American coup d'etats.

There are not so few wars during that time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_1945%E2%80%931989 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_1945%E2%80%931989)
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on August 20, 2012, 02:40:44 am
I know m8 but still nearly not as fun as declaring war on Germany as a civilised Thailand and dominating them
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on August 20, 2012, 08:41:47 am
I know m8 but still nearly not as fun as declaring war on Germany as a civilised Thailand and dominating them

oh God why do I think this is gonna be a disastrous.  In my mind there is a picture of Switzerland just H-bombing the f**k out of all world.

This is why I don't talk to people.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on August 21, 2012, 01:57:27 pm
This is why I don't talk to people.
Well I am talking only from my own experience with Hearts Of Iron 2 mod where the starting point was year 2003. There I ended up playing as a European Union militarized version. I ended up with having a war against Russia. Started out good but as soon as I got too close to Moscow, well Russia had quite a lot of nuclear missiles in it's disposal and bombed the shit out of whole Europe.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on August 21, 2012, 05:34:42 pm
Well I am talking only from my own experience with Hearts Of Iron 2 mod where the starting point was year 2003. There I ended up playing as a European Union militarized version. I ended up with having a war against Russia. Started out good but as soon as I got too close to Moscow, well Russia had quite a lot of nuclear missiles in it's disposal and bombed the shit out of whole Europe.

I have no idea what you are on about, I didn't enjoy Hearts of Iron 2 due to the GUI. The only game I enjoyed before Europa Universalis 3 was Europa Universalis 2/1.



I managed to get my Dynasty started from the Byzantine Empire, formed the Greek Kingdom, then the Latin Empire, and managed to make multiple roots involving incest in Hungary (First ruler of Latin Empire married current queen of Hungary which was wedded to the step-son of the ruler, who was his heir) because the queen's heir was my daughter. The reason why my dynasty was in the Kingdom of Sicily was because the Arabic kingdoms in North Africa managed to get majority of the Sicilian kingdom and usurped the title. I did a couple of holy wars and usurped the title for myself, attempting to form the empire of Italy, which failed.

I originally had complete relations with the Byzantine empire as Despot Appolonios, the founder of the Latin Empire, but after his death and moving onto his heir, which is my current character and his son, Konstantinos, the Byzantine relations quickly dropped after multiple affairs and a couple of legitimised bastards that also affected the relations with my mother/wife in Hungary. Due to the heir of the Byzantine Empress was my son, and the pretenders were also of my dynasty, I had the option to overthrow the Empress with multiple strong claims for the throne and she in return had claims on a lot of my counties due to being former Kingdom of Greece with the war of Independence in 1101.

(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg247/morlanvideos1234/BurgessDynasty-1.jpg)

Yes, I know I cheated.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on August 24, 2012, 12:48:12 am
nice hre
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on September 02, 2012, 05:42:35 am
March of the Eagles (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?629737-March-of-the-Eagles-Join-the-beta!-The-Emperor-is-calling-you-back-into-service.)

New game in development called March of the Eagles, probably based around the 1800's using the Crusader Kings 2 engine.

EDIT: Based during the Napoleonic wars, so right after Europa III/IV and before Victoria II.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on September 09, 2012, 04:15:37 am
definitely cool, i had no idea about it
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on September 09, 2012, 09:23:49 am
Follow the developer topics on the Paradox forums and you'll find out about them before they release public information about it like screenshots.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on September 15, 2012, 08:23:36 pm
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg247/morlanvideos1234/v2_1.jpg)

Surprisingly I didn't cheat that cash.

Majority of the nations hate me in Europe except a few neighbours including Bavaria, Belgium etc. due to helping out in wars.

I managed to get first from a Hegemony war on Prussia as they were being attacked by Austria (As per usual).

I changed a few lines in the text files located in the game directory and wa-la, I got Argonath replacing Frankfurt. The reason being to why the Argonath flag is just the white tree, blue border and red squares is because of the government type I have at the moment.

The Fascist Dictatorship is black squares instead of red and the Monarchy and Republic flags are the same as the normal Argonath flag.

EDIT: I also made a custom Socialist party called "Marxist Socialist".

EDIT 2: http://ul.to/jxruh4cb (http://ul.to/jxruh4cb) Here is a link to download the flags, some may think they are shit, others may think they are alright. I can't be assed explaining how to change a country's name and shit around, and it's to do once you grasp the basics on how to mess around with the text files without breaking anything.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on September 15, 2012, 11:14:39 pm
I'm really doubting you smashed Prussia and France by 1865 as Frankfurt without cheating or modding more than the name and the flag.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on September 16, 2012, 07:24:38 am
I'm really doubting you smashed Prussia and France by 1865 as Frankfurt without cheating or modding more than the name and the flag.

If you pay careful attention to the game, you will notice Austria is able to beat Prussia, and I managed to take advantage of that.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on November 10, 2012, 10:27:47 pm
I (France) lost the crimean war to Jay (Russia)
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on November 16, 2012, 02:51:57 pm
Man I have to start playing these games again.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on November 17, 2012, 06:32:03 am
Crusader Kings 2: Sunset Invasion has been released.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on November 17, 2012, 12:27:29 pm
Crusader Kings 2: Sunset Invasion has been released.
Ooh, nice just got the regular CK II yesterday.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on November 17, 2012, 02:19:32 pm
I think it's an awful idea. Why would they bother doing stuff like that instead of adding historical event chains or something more related to the real world?
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on November 17, 2012, 02:57:23 pm
Ooh, nice just got the regular CK II yesterday.

It isn't nice, it's a terrible idea implementing something not historically accurate. The Aztec's never invaded Europe at all.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: JayL on December 05, 2012, 05:44:27 pm
I (France) lost the crimean war to Jay (Russia)

 :cool:
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on December 07, 2012, 05:09:50 pm
Who wants an EU3 MP game?????????

pls respond :(
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on December 07, 2012, 09:15:58 pm
Who wants an EU3 MP game?????????

pls respond :(
Too rusty on that game right now.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on December 09, 2012, 11:21:09 pm
(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/594737613024928323/5F1D410A9D5F04B963F7B403045AF77B625528A4/)

My modest colonial empire. Started as Scotland. I'm minting like crazy and spending very little on armies, allowing me to colonize America very fast.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on December 10, 2012, 06:55:32 am


My modest colonial empire. Started as Scotland. I'm minting like crazy and spending very little on armies, allowing me to colonize America very fast.
By the end you'll have actual British Empire at its high time?
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on December 10, 2012, 05:35:42 pm
That's the idea though already the irrelevant german minors with a coast have started colonizing all Canada before me
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on December 13, 2012, 02:45:56 pm
That's the idea though already the irrelevant german minors with a coast have started colonizing all Canada before me
Aaah, you suck dude :P
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on December 13, 2012, 05:32:26 pm
I played a lot since that, and managed to steal all their colonies. Once you get things set up as Britain, nobody from the mainland can stop you.

Also I inherited Austria, who I released as a vassal instantly, and Burgundy, whose french provinces I sold to my vassal Normandy, and dutch provinces to Holland.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on December 14, 2012, 07:47:00 am
I played a lot since that, and managed to steal all their colonies. Once you get things set up as Britain, nobody from the mainland can stop you.

Also I inherited Austria, who I released as a vassal instantly, and Burgundy, whose french provinces I sold to my vassal Normandy, and dutch provinces to Holland.
You're messing with history here, man : )
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on December 14, 2012, 08:19:22 am
that's the only reason we play this game
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: JayL on December 16, 2012, 01:12:26 pm
>USA getting released in Greenland as a Republican Dictatorship and with Flemish culture
lul
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Demir. on December 16, 2012, 01:24:30 pm
Lol JayL
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on December 16, 2012, 09:12:46 pm
Europa Universalis IV and Crusader Kings 2

WILL BE SAVE GAME COMPATIBLE
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Kirgiz on December 17, 2012, 08:17:16 am
Nonetheless, multiple mods have already been made to make that happen with other games, as far as I heard.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on December 17, 2012, 08:25:08 am
Nonetheless, multiple mods have already been made to make that happen with other games, as far as I heard.

This is an OFFICIAL save game converter, like Crusader Kings 1 to Europa Universalis 2
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Kirgiz on December 17, 2012, 05:58:28 pm
This is an OFFICIAL save game converter, like Crusader Kings 1 to Europa Universalis 2
.............................................so?
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on December 18, 2012, 03:44:24 am
.............................................so?

Because the conversion mods are buggy pieces of shit. Mostly. It's just better to have Paradox themselves do it.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on December 19, 2012, 04:31:23 am
Because the conversion mods are buggy pieces of shit. Mostly. It's just better to have Paradox themselves do it.

+1

>Playing EU3DW
>Formed Prussia with Teutonic and peaceful vassals with Brandenburg
>Austria was raped by Bohemia and only down to one province
>Tries to help them out by conquering a lot of Bohemian controlled Austrian provinces
>Increases relations with Austria
>FUCKING AUSTRIAN SPY INDUCED REVOLTS ALL OVER MY COUNTRY


Fucking dicks, I hate Austria
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on December 19, 2012, 07:18:00 am
>USA getting released in Greenland as a Republican Dictatorship and with Flemish culture
lul
Sounds about right.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on December 19, 2012, 08:44:26 am
guys please stop trying to greentext

pleas

Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Freedom on December 19, 2012, 12:10:14 pm
guys please stop trying to greentext

pleas
that's the meme arrow :DD:D
lol :DD:D:DD:D
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on December 20, 2012, 08:16:46 am
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg247/morlanvideos1234/v2_4.jpg)

Excuse me sir what are you doing
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on December 20, 2012, 06:28:01 pm
did you get all that prestige from colonies? if not tell me your secrets I can never shit enough to end up first, not for long anyway
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on December 20, 2012, 06:42:05 pm
I have no fucking idea how I got that much prestige,

For some reason when I released Australia as a colony it instantly made the only 4-5 events that Australia had unique to it happen in 2 years, giving lots of prestige.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on December 20, 2012, 06:45:05 pm
well you ain't getting further than that with 100k pop lol

if you need advice i'd recommend stealing Portuguese african colonies
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on December 21, 2012, 06:47:30 am
well you ain't getting further than that with 100k pop lol

if you need advice i'd recommend stealing Portuguese african colonies

I took Bali

Holy fucking shit man

Never again

They have 1 million pop, and they raped me
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on December 22, 2012, 06:23:45 am
Portugal's lightweight really but if you're really having issues, maybe Arabia is easier, although way less population, still a gateway into Africa.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on December 22, 2012, 07:00:06 pm
Yeah, I tried to get into the Asian countries and that didn't really work well.

I've slowly legitimized my Paradox Interactive game collection, I bought the Hearts of Iron 3 collection including most of the sprite packs, Europa Universalis 3 Chronicles and Complete, the Victoria 2 collection including Victoria I, and the Crusader Kings 2 collection.

By the way, they are going to release a DLC soon so you can play as republics like Venice or create your own, and is mainly based around trading and trade posts, sounds like fun. I'm really waiting for Europa Universalis 4 though, unless they allow paganism for CK2, or make another addon including it.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Ness on December 22, 2012, 08:12:24 pm
excuse me ? this is legit games topic, if you feel to post here while spitting on paradox face, we will not support you .
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on December 22, 2012, 08:33:06 pm
ness pls go

I'll eventually buy Victoria and/or CK2 yes, I got the other 2 already

EUIV will be day one purchase
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on December 23, 2012, 06:06:27 am
EUIV will be day one purchase

Yeah it will be the same for me c:

Post Merge: December 23, 2012, 06:09:06 am
excuse me ? this is legit games topic, if you feel to post here while spitting on paradox face, we will not support you .

"spitting on paradox's face"

I BOUGHT THE GAMES LOLPOTATO

Reread fool
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on December 23, 2012, 05:04:06 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/OR9r0.jpg)

Scotland > Great Britain game finished. I tried so hard to clean Europe up but Spain was just a bitch and wouldn't annex Aragon. And Russia imploded into rebels almost right after they formed. The nations on america are Aquileia on north Mexico, light blue is Venice, orange is NEVERS (that one landlocked country in France!) and that Red between Chile and Argentina is Denmark.

With this game I learned that the thing I hate the most in my game are level 5/6 forts.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on December 24, 2012, 08:38:26 am
(http://i.imgur.com/OR9r0.jpg)

Scotland > Great Britain game finished. I tried so hard to clean Europe up but Spain was just a bad girl and wouldn't annex Aragon. And Russia imploded into rebels almost right after they formed. The nations on america are Aquileia on north Mexico, light blue is Venice, orange is NEVERS (that one landlocked country in France!) and that Red between Chile and Argentina is Denmark.

With this game I learned that the thing I hate the most in my game are level 5/6 forts.

I wish they would get the colonisation of Australia right with the provinces, one of the main first landings was in the Northern Territory which is completely uncolonizable.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on December 24, 2012, 06:27:04 pm
Yeah that makes sense.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on December 30, 2012, 09:57:24 pm
I formed Russia as Novgorod for the first time, and oddly enough as I was doing it, the song "Come Together" by The Beatles was playing.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on January 12, 2013, 08:02:31 am
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg247/morlanvideos1234/Punowat.jpg)

o.o
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on January 12, 2013, 08:05:24 am
bet the cot is worth thousands of ducats or something


i was playing japan in victoria 2 with new nations mod, but i lost the save. i had a really good run, not even 1870 and 5th GP, whole Korea as colony, stole Taiwan from China. Will try again some time
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on January 12, 2013, 11:52:40 am
Noice

The CoT was around 900
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Call_me_Dad on January 19, 2013, 12:59:29 am
I finished my first game in EU3.

Formed Germany with Brandenberg in 1590s.
Then mostly fast forwarded the game as there wasn't much of a challenge left to do.
Just took over all provinces on which I had a core.

But honestly, Germany....once formed. The economy, technology and army are unmatched.
Though my infamy was at peak, but all the income I got was from taxes. The Army and Cultural modifier were stuck at 100%.
I was getting army generals like Timur Khan.
I was able to annihilate 40000 french troops in one roll of dice in the shock phase of a war. Fort level 3 could be captured in 1 assault. Rebel armies were actually target practice.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on January 19, 2013, 01:31:28 am
Yeah Germany is unstoppable in all paradox games. Nothing wrong with that either, it's how it's supposed to be. Nice to see a new face around too, this thread is mostly a circlejerk between the same 3 or 4 posters.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on January 19, 2013, 02:40:44 am
I finished my first game in EU3.

Formed Germany with Brandenberg in 1590s.
Then mostly fast forwarded the game as there wasn't much of a challenge left to do.
Just took over all provinces on which I had a core.

But honestly, Germany....once formed. The economy, technology and army are unmatched.
Though my infamy was at peak, but all the income I got was from taxes. The Army and Cultural modifier were stuck at 100%.
I was getting army generals like Timur Khan.
I was able to annihilate 40000 french troops in one roll of dice in the shock phase of a war. Fort level 3 could be captured in 1 assault. Rebel armies were actually target practice.

Did you take the Hansa and use the Hanseatic League as a good economy basis? That's supposed to be the historical and strategical way of forming Germany
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on January 19, 2013, 02:53:13 am
I like the strategy of killing all the merchant republics, they just make your own cots poor as fuck
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Call_me_Dad on January 19, 2013, 01:53:59 pm
Did you take the Hansa and use the Hanseatic League as a good economy basis? That's supposed to be the historical and strategical way of forming Germany
No.
Actually, I couldnt annex Hansa till the end of the game.
It was their capital and without capturing their provinces in Africa they would not accept annexation.
I was too lazy to attack their african provinces :D
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on January 20, 2013, 07:57:06 pm
You're supposed to get them early in the game before any of the smaller countries could colonize, preferably before the 1480's xD
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on January 20, 2013, 08:07:20 pm
Anyone for Victoria 2 mutiplayer??
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Ness on January 20, 2013, 09:00:31 pm
no
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on January 21, 2013, 12:51:06 pm
Tried to play EU 3 today, came out, I still suck at it.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on January 22, 2013, 09:33:58 pm
fucking up 15 years after starting is common, it's easy once you get the ball rolling
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Call_me_Dad on January 22, 2013, 10:42:36 pm
You're supposed to get them early in the game before any of the smaller countries could colonize, preferably before the 1480's xD
Hah.
I was Prussia at that time.
A few years later I was fighting France and Austria on two fronts(Thanks to Bohemia, else I would have resigned).
Also my infamy was 10 above the limit :D

I'm kinda bored of EU3. The AI decisions are quite predictable, so I always abuse that knowledge.
There's a trick that makes it possible to totally annihilate 40 regiments with 15...

I tried Victoria 2, but it...is...complicated, also I get bored with the Political-economic gameplay involved.
So I started HOI3 as it has WW2 scenario.

I'm still getting used to it. Any tips?
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on January 23, 2013, 12:15:21 am
I'm kinda bored of EU3. The AI decisions are quite predictable, so I always abuse that knowledge.
There's a trick that makes it possible to totally annihilate 40 regiments with 15...

I tried Victoria 2, but it...is...complicated, also I get bored with the Political-economic gameplay involved.
So I started HOI3 as it has WW2 scenario.

I'm still getting used to it. Any tips?

About EU3, not really a trick man it's just being a good player if you can do it

About Victoria, it's a matter of taste. Personally I really like the more stream-lined, predictable events that shape the world, they're more realistic than in EU3 where Cornwall always gets independent.

No tips about hearts of iron, game is impossible. Learn what OOB means.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Cross on January 23, 2013, 12:19:53 am
I was actually trying about getting one of those strategy games (Victoria2,EU3,HOI3,Crusader Kings 2 ect).
Just wondering what game is the best?

Been playing total war for ages now but looking for something else for a change.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on January 23, 2013, 01:49:37 am
EU3 or CK2 are the easiest but any of them are good, just pick the one with your favorite time period
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on January 23, 2013, 03:02:01 am
I'm still getting used to it. Any tips?

Yeah.



DON'T STACK YOUR SHIT


Legit, every multiplayer game I have played with newbies claiming they are "experts" in it stack their units just for the combined arms bonus, completely ignoring the fact that terrain, weather, technology and stack penalties exist at all whatsoever.

Spread out units and limit how many you have in one province, don't make bodywalls like the German's or Soviet's because they can handle the penalities if you aren't playing the major powers.

Stick to guerrilla warfare and the lure tactic, keep large amounts of units in places you think they can't see and use smaller, quick units to lure them towards a deathtrap.

edit: Divide and conquer. This is extremely useful against China if you are playing as Japan, Manchuria or Russia. Slice straight through the center of the large country and slowly pull in from the sides like folding up a blanket.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on January 29, 2013, 09:10:24 am
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg247/morlanvideos1234/ck2_2.jpg)

I got bored so I ended up cheating to make the original Francia empire. At the moment I'm trying to split it up into West, Middle and East Francia.

...Maybe I'll make a mod to make it easier.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on February 04, 2013, 03:53:47 pm
new victoria expansion
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?662799-Victoria-2-Heart-of-Darkness (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?662799-Victoria-2-Heart-of-Darkness)
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?662799-Victoria-2-Heart-of-Darkness (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?662799-Victoria-2-Heart-of-Darkness)
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?662799-Victoria-2-Heart-of-Darkness (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?662799-Victoria-2-Heart-of-Darkness)
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?662799-Victoria-2-Heart-of-Darkness (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?662799-Victoria-2-Heart-of-Darkness)

fucking PARADOX we want world war 1 not AFRICA
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Dolfagr on February 04, 2013, 09:44:39 pm
Anyone's onto Hearts of Iron 3? I am currently playing Germany, already tried playing as Finland but the Commies wouldn't let me expand. I shall post some pictures soon.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on February 05, 2013, 06:23:31 am
Anyone's onto Hearts of Iron 3? I am currently playing Germany, already tried playing as Finland but the Commies wouldn't let me expand. I shall post some pictures soon.

Yeah.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Dolfagr on February 05, 2013, 11:17:25 pm
Well my campaign is going good, I've put Rommel in charge on the East front and Guderian on the West front. Von Manstein is leading an army group in the south that will attack The Balkans. These are the best generals I known of in Axis though it will be pretty hard to submit the British.


Yeah.

What nation are you playing / have played, and what game version do you have?



Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: JayL on February 06, 2013, 01:33:08 am
f**king PARADOX we want world war 1 not AFRICA

The details they provided about international crises combined with the native Great Wars are just enough. Remember that World War I was caused pretty much by colonial trouble, only that it was an European colony of Austria.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on February 06, 2013, 02:17:20 am
The details they provided about international crises combined with the native Great Wars are just enough. Remember that World War I was caused pretty much by colonial trouble, only that it was an European colony of Austria.

No it's true the crisis thing looks great ON PAPER, I'm not sure they'll be enough to unchain huge shitstorms such as WWI though

Not to mention Great Wars system is rather bad? All it does is force a Cut down to size goal on top of your own goals. Maybe they'll change that as well.


Anyone's onto Hearts of Iron 3? I am currently playing Germany, already tried playing as Finland but the Commies wouldn't let me expand. I shall post some pictures soon.

Game's just too damn hard, I can't force myself to understand army management
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on February 06, 2013, 01:39:25 pm
Well my campaign is going good, I've put Rommel in charge on the East front and Guderian on the West front. Von Manstein is leading an army group in the south that will attack The Balkans. These are the best generals I known of in Axis though it will be pretty hard to submit the British.


What nation are you playing / have played, and what game version do you have?



I've played pretty much every nation. I have all the addons including the latest.

I don't particularly care for famous names when it comes to assigning leaders. The person that you assign doesn't matter, it's really just their stats that count.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Dolfagr on February 06, 2013, 02:18:14 pm
I've played pretty much every nation. I have all the addons including the latest.

I don't particularly care for famous names when it comes to assigning leaders. The person that you assign doesn't matter, it's really just their stats that count.

They actually have 4 stats each if I am not wrong, the best Axis generals, but yeah ofcourse when it comes to assigning army groups stats matter.



Game's just too damn hard, I can't force myself to understand army management

I also found it very difficult at the beginning. I watched some tutorials, a good one made by EmpireErwinRommel (youtube) and I've known a few since then. Just play a little and you will know more as the time goes by.



Blitzkrieg Phase #1

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii271/Dolfagr/untitled_zpsb9e49d7a.jpg?t=1360156557)

Yellow arrows are the movement of Airborne division as I plan to take most of their IC and force them to surrender faster.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on February 06, 2013, 03:19:48 pm
I don't hate myself to play the game enough
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on February 15, 2013, 03:26:32 pm
Preordered March of the Eagles and currently downloading Sengoku that came with it.

Come to papa.

Also I've almost legitimised my entire Paradox Interactive game library, I just have to get War of the Roses working rather than using the pirated version because I bought it awhile ago and the Steam version isn't working at all for me.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on February 15, 2013, 04:42:37 pm
Preordered March of the Eagles and currently downloading Sengoku that came with it.

Come to papa.

Also I've almost legitimised my entire Paradox Interactive game library, I just have to get War of the Roses working rather than using the pirated version because I bought it awhile ago and the Steam version isn't working at all for me.

im going to have to report you for admiting of piracy games

 :) :) :) ;) :)


March of the Eagles I'm not sure I'll like, I was never a real fan of Napoleonic era nor Hearts of Iron (it kinda is a HoI game in 1792, right?)
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on February 16, 2013, 02:18:56 am
im going to have to report you for admiting of piracy games

 :) :) :) ;) :)


March of the Eagles I'm not sure I'll like, I was never a real fan of Napoleonic era nor Hearts of Iron (it kinda is a HoI game in 1792, right?)

Nah, It's practically Victoria during the Napoleonic wars but based entirely in Europe.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: JayL on February 19, 2013, 08:59:15 pm
I wonder if you people would be up for a multiplayer match, in EU3, Vic2 or HOI3. But I would like to play a match with 4+ people. 2 is quite boring.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on February 19, 2013, 09:13:07 pm
march of the eagles seems to be the easiest paradox game so far
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on February 19, 2013, 09:27:53 pm
It's alright. Played it for about an hour and went back to Batman Arkham City.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Dolfagr on February 24, 2013, 01:44:36 pm
march of the eagles seems to be the easiest paradox game so far

Played it for a while today. I liked the new and improved interface and graphics. I'll probably get back to it later as I ragequited after losing an important naval battle
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on May 28, 2013, 12:56:13 am
So any updates on Paradox games I should know?
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on May 28, 2013, 08:01:39 am
New Crusader Kings 2 addon is coming out soon, they released the last development diary for it.

Europa Universalis IV is coming soon as well, they have launched a site where you can invite your friends and if you hit certain amounts who join you get addon packs for free.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on June 03, 2013, 05:42:51 pm
I love how in CK 2, being homosexual only decreases the fertility  15%.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: EenBeeFour on June 27, 2013, 01:18:03 am
Yeeee, look what I preordered.

(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg247/morlanvideos1234/Yeeeee_zpsb1b4c6b7.png)

I bought the Digital Deluxe version.

Also, does anyone know what the card/badges shit is for Crusader Kings 2? I earned one card and it says I can earn four more if I buy the game, which I already have. It says I can get more just by playing.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: JayL on August 08, 2013, 03:29:47 am
So, who read the Byzantium AAR recently posted in the EU4 forum?
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on August 08, 2013, 08:46:06 pm
So, who read the Byzantium AAR recently posted in the EU4 forum?
I did.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Ness on August 09, 2013, 03:55:14 am
So, who read the Byzantium AAR recently posted in the EU4 forum?
I didn't.
PS. WILL BE PIRATING EU4
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on August 10, 2013, 02:08:03 am
As little as I did try EU 4 Demo, well I'd say I can't wait for the 3 days to pass already. :)
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: JayL on August 14, 2013, 12:28:35 am
So it's out. Already thrown a couple hours in the game.

I have to say everything is looking really cool. While some people seem to be bashing the altered mechanics of cores and religious conversion, I personally liked the way things work now. It completely changes the face of territorial expansion.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on August 15, 2013, 11:29:43 am
Livonian Order AAR
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5871/0banner.png)
Historical perspective
The Livonian Order was an autonomous Livonian branch of the Teutonic Order and a member of the Livonian Confederation from 1435 to 1561.

After being defeated by Samogitians in the 1236 Battle of Schaulen (Saule), the remnants of the Livonian Brothers of the Sword were incorporated into the Teutonic Knights and became known as the Livonian Order in 1237. Between 1237 and 1290, the Livonian Order conquered all of Courland, Livonia, and Semigallia, but the Order's attempts to invade the neighboring Novgorod Republic were unsuccessful and its army was eventually defeated in the Battle of Lake Peipus (1242), and in the Battle of Rakvere (1268). In 1346, the Order bought the Duchy of Estonia from King Valdemar IV of Denmark. Life within the Order's territory is described in the Chronicle of Balthasar Russow (Chronica der Provinz Lyfflandt).

After coming to an agreement with Sigismund II Augustus and his representatives (especially Mikołaj "the Black" Radziwiłł), the last Livonian Master, Gotthard Kettler, secularized the Order and converted to Lutheranism. In the southern part of the Brothers' lands he created the Duchy of Courland and Semigallia for his family. Most of the remaining lands were seized by the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. The north of Estonia was taken back by Denmark and Sweden.

Goals for this AAR

Chapter I - It's pretty bad,mmmkay?

(http://i39.tinypic.com/154iu4k.png)

So my game starts with year 11th November 1444. How bad can it be. Well let's compare my country with the one I had around the same time in Europa Universalis 3. We have my map as Teutonic order of 1439, so what's the key diffrences.
First off, MY COUNTRY IS FREAKING SPLIT INTO TWO PARTS!!!! Now, when I have calmed down let's see some other things. I don't have Pskov under my rule nor Riga. Although the latter really seems like a minor problem. Also it seems that Lithuania has taken some land in southern Latvia/Livonia in compare to my EU3 game. Is there an upside? Well I have learned to be better at warfare so that should somewhat help the process.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/wl1yf4.png)

So, first things first. Riga, can't have that be surrounded by my territories and think it is independent, so WAR! Although Riga had The Hansa as their allies, I was able to fight with both, although I did have to take loans 5 times, but I was able to pay it back after the war, so it was ok. Soon after that I had to deal with unacceptable culture and turning Riga into my core. Also it was good that Teutonic order wanted to be my ally as I desperately need allies. Have to deal with unifying our orders into one, later. Also it seems that Lithuania has forged some claims on my lands which seems threatening, I have to be good neighbour to them for now.
(http://i44.tinypic.com/t5kltz.png)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/9qep9t.png)
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: JayL on August 18, 2013, 12:33:29 am
Has anyone tried fighting the nomads in EU4?

It seems their cavalry ratio limit is 100% and the AI really does use a LOT of cavalry. And that can be the only reason as to why I lose pretty much half of my troops on the first phase of combat against any steppe army.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Jubin on August 18, 2013, 11:44:49 am
Has anyone tried fighting the nomads in EU4?

It seems their cavalry ratio limit is 100% and the AI really does use a LOT of cavalry. And that can be the only reason as to why I lose pretty much half of my troops on the first phase of combat against any steppe army.
I don't know if it is 100% but yeah it is higher than normal limit.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Call_me_Dad on August 20, 2013, 07:42:23 am
Heard the multiplayer is great, though I wonder how it works. Anyone up for a multiplayer game?
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: ElMartu on August 20, 2013, 05:44:55 pm
ok im up

i have 15 minutes experience on IV
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: JayL on August 20, 2013, 06:19:05 pm
I'm in.
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Call_me_Dad on August 27, 2013, 03:43:10 pm
Arright then!
Add "SpiralRock" and "RedBaron1991" in Steam, we can set up a game then :)
Title: Re: Grand Strategy/Paradox
Post by: Call_me_Dad on September 06, 2013, 08:47:45 am
(http://i.imgur.com/hCrvCxd.png?1?1822)

:)
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