Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:VC => VC:MP - Vice City Multiplayer => VC:MP General => Topic started by: essex on June 19, 2011, 12:50:11 am
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toaday i was changing my accounts i needed someone to trust i went to perry but turns out he wanted to be cool because i called klaus a cunt because of the fight we had earlier so he stole my 121k he loled and shit i begged him for 20 mins he didnt listen and kept laughing he has my money please reply help me if you cant as a punishment reset his money please!
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There really isn't much we can do. You should be sure who your friends are when handing money over.
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Flaming Out Leader ? Loool You Fail Dude ... Nothing I can do ...
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I see you have no proof. I completely deny this. I request topic lock.
Post Merge: June 19, 2011, 01:26:32 am
Nah, jk.
Yeah, I did ripp you off. You insulted my friends so that's why I did. Anyway you gave me the money yourself and so it's not like you didn't have a choice.
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Lol..
I guess this just goes to show how careful you have to be when transferring cash..
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In real life situations you get scammed too.
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Gentlemen, I have a few questions, hope you can resolve them.
Essex, why did you flame Klaus? (Reason)
Perry, were you two "friends" before he flamed Klaus?
Why haven't you(the administration) done anything the exact moment Essex started flaming?
Regards.
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No, me and Essex were never friends.
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No, me and Essex were never friends.
Then you didn't keep the sum because he insulted your friends, then because of greed.
That's a whole different aspect now. Thank you for answering.
Where were the administrators at the time?
Any actions were taken?
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sorry void yes i flamedat klaus i was standing there parked got out he headshotted me i didnt even shoot back i got made and flammed at him thats all klaus as an admin didnt kick he just lol'd and it wasnt nothing serious i was just pissed off and perry was my friend stop lieng we used to be in the same clan IT together and we were good friends after he left then he became a bit fuzzy before EAF ofc
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Yeah you did flame me, but as you said it wasn't any big deal. You was freecopping and I killed you and you raged. Happens.
If you took a screenshot you might of been able to take Perry to court, but there is a lack of evidence. This looks to be classic scam, admins can not help in those situations. You handed over the money yourself, you took that risk.
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toaday i was changing my accounts i needed someone to trust i went to perry but turns out he wanted to be cool because i called klaus a cunt because of the fight we had earlier so he stole my 121k
So, uh... you didn't ask an admin to use /c changename on you?
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Then you didn't keep the sum because he insulted your friends, then because of greed.
Actually I have split the money to some new players.
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i got evidence lol but cant axxo or anyone check the logs
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i got evidence lol but cant axxo or anyone check the logs
Well, it's not against the rules, and likely can't be used in a court case.
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If you want your money safely transfered, ask an admin or a moderator.
Even though what Perry did is wrong, it is not exactly rulebreaking.
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This is kinda funny. I'm not supporting esse by any means (hate the dumbass), but when person such as Verz gets ripped off for 61k by some AR nab admins tell the AR nab to give Verz the money back, yet here u say 'this is a lesson, you should be more careful when giving your money away' ?
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Mhmm... well you shouldn't be really going around scamming people outside RP (in my point of view), and generally if and when any Admin action is taken, often doesn't involve the money going back.
The situation isn't right, but /c changename works, and pick your friends carefully.
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i got 50k already but cant you atleast take money from him?
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I didn't expect Perry would hand you any cash over either after you insulted the person highest in his group. (I was there when you flamed him).
Ripping off isn't a break of rules, it happens everywhere, next time ask an admin for /c changename, since that does everything that transferring cash to Perry does except getting ripped off.
Or just register your new account and /c wire the cash to the new account.
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I didn't expect Perry would hand you any cash over either after you insulted the person highest in his group. (I was there when you flamed him).
Ripping off isn't a break of rules, it happens everywhere, next time ask an admin for /c changename, since that does everything that transferring cash to Perry does except getting ripped off.
Or just register your new account and /c wire the cash to the new account.
Actually ripping off in terms of outside-roleplay isn't allowed cause it is classified as scamming. Sure Esse shouldn't trust him, but ripping of in such way isn't allowed. This isn't a smuggle.
It's both Perry's and Esse's fault such thing happened, but more of Esse's. He should ask an admin instead.
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marcell i know but this was like 1 am in the morning and no dmin was on i trusted rapture because i knew he was loyal but i couldnt send it to him on time then perry came i thought i could trust him.
my mistake
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That's what I call unfair owning, no offense to either :D
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tbh i understand if i cant get my money but it would relive me if perry lost his money aswell
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I spent the money.
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Hungy moneys make sick, poor new players :neutral:
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well i worked hard i made 75k toaday.
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I earn about ~3k a day and yet I stay at + after buying weps, then when got 50k again will give 25k to Klaus :p
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lol well tbh last time i was player onargo rpg i was a crim what took me 1 month to get took me 1 day as a cop im joining the force 2 weeks later
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Long story short, Perry ripping you off was ethically wrong, although not against the rules.
Money is like drugs, you should be careful who you are dealing with instead of handing them over to random people, which is what kids do.
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I spent the money.
You are so evil :(
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it turns out it is scaming so it is against the rules and daddy he spent in infront of me :( he gave half ofmy money to some noob new player :(
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it turns out it is scaming so it is against the rules and daddy he spent in infront of me :( he gave half ofmy money to some noob new player :(
It's better than spending them to weapons, eh? :)
I myself would gladly spend my money on helping new players to get in to start on this server..
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It's better than spending them to weapons, eh? :)
I myself would gladly spend my money on helping new players to get in to start on this server..
Your money. The difference is that he used other people's money. :lol:
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Your money. The difference is that he used other people's money. :lol:
But that's just the way it is now :lol:
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it turns out it is scaming so it is against the rules and daddy he spent in infront of me :( he gave half ofmy money to some noob new player :(
Calling new players noob isn't right.
Hungy moneys make sick, poor new players :neutral:
And duffman, essex isn't a new player. He played 1 month before I even joined. Proof that I'm not money hungry is that I gave some to new players. Essex shouldn't trust people who he insults.
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Lol scamming is allowed.. So just drop it Essex. And i think i were the guy you called ''noob''
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it turns out it is scaming so it is against the rules
http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Rules#Basic_Argonath_Rules (http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Rules#Basic_Argonath_Rules)
http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Rules#VC-MP_Argonath_RPG_Server_Rules (http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Rules#VC-MP_Argonath_RPG_Server_Rules)
Hmm, nowhere in there do I see anything about scamming.
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http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Rules#Basic_Argonath_Rules (http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Rules#Basic_Argonath_Rules)
http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Rules#VC-MP_Argonath_RPG_Server_Rules (http://wiki.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/Rules#VC-MP_Argonath_RPG_Server_Rules)
Hmm, nowhere in there do I see anything about scamming.
Well i got scammed many times in SAMP and no one told me that its a rule break or not.. So imo it's allowed.
coz i asked if it were allowed.. And Admins/The players said Yes.
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well it aint right what he did we were in the same fkin clan to and he does that just because you did this foolish scam doesnt make you grow in klaus's eyes lock this topic admins
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well it aint right what he did we were in the same fkin clan to and he does that just because you did this foolish scam doesnt make you grow in klaus's eyes lock this topic admins
Well, It ain't my fault that you deal with the wrong persons.
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What Perry did was indeed wrong, but not against the rules.
Move along, case closed.
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Insulting a player through the internet => no administration reacting => money taken to "defend" the honor of another => justice served
Interesting and twisted way of enacting justice around here.
This wouldn't happen if people had common sense. If Klaus had forgotten about the issues, you Perry, had no reason to continue interfering.
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Insulting a player through the internet => no administration reacting => money taken to "defend" the honor of another => justice served
Interesting and twisted way of enacting justice around here.
This wouldn't happen if people had common sense. If Klaus had forgotten about the issues, you Perry, had no reason to continue interfering.
Or then we just like to fuck around and steal other people's money to help new players. I myself have only trusted Kent, Klaus and Dexter to transfer my money from EAF acc to just Kessu acco lol :D
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before perry stole my money me and klaus got on perry didnt know that though... i raged i know klaus knows how i am and he said dw about it after perry stole my money.
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Insulting a player through the internet => no administration reacting => money taken to "defend" the honor of another => justice served
Interesting and twisted way of enacting justice around here.
This wouldn't happen if people had common sense. If Klaus had forgotten about the issues, you Perry, had no reason to continue interfering.
Insulting a player => Experienced admin recognizes rage insult and deals with it normally => Perry takes money from essex to "defend" Klaus's honor => Klaus is unware of such thing => Essex gets scammed => There is no actual rule regarding this incident => Lesson is learned for both of them: Essex, entrust your cash and your possessions to an admin. Perry goes off with a reinforced moral warning.
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imo Perry is just a ''Friend'' of mine still.. But i would like to know the EAF's members better. And it is also Essex's own fault that he dealt with Perry, After he insulted Klaus.
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Yea, it's not a very "nice" thing to do.
But, it becomes a little different if you /q after scamming a car/tricking a new player under certain circumstances, I suppose.
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perry did an honoralble thing be gave me 110k it was 10k short but im not comlplaining case closed
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Great. :)
Good to see that people don't have to be on bad terms with each other.
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Yea, it's not a very "nice" thing to do.
But, it becomes a little different if you /q after scamming a car/tricking a new player under certain circumstances, I suppose.
Scamming new players is the lamest thing you can do, and imo should result a reset of that situation. Just my opinion though.
But tho' scamming outside of RP is imo also really lame.. But, as there is no rule about, nothing can be done except verbally slam Perry to the ground :lol:
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Scamming new players is the lamest thing you can do, and imo should result a reset of that situation. Just my opinion though.
But tho' scamming outside of RP is imo also really lame.. But, as there is no rule about, nothing can be done except verbally slam Perry to the ground :lol:
e-sex isn't a new player. I'm sure he knew that transferring shit with someone can lead to consequences especially if it's not a close friend.
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HE GAVE MY MONEY BACK GUYS xD
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Scamming new players is the lamest thing you can do, and imo should result a reset of that situation. Just my opinion though.
But tho' scamming outside of RP is imo also really lame.. But, as there is no rule about, nothing can be done except verbally slam Perry to the ground :lol:
Right with you there.
Some parts of Argonath already takes action on above situations. Not the greatest welcome you can give to players, and it builds up so much distrust that it can crash certain economies with paranoia!
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e-sex isn't a new player. I'm sure he knew that transferring shit with someone can lead to consequences especially if it's not a close friend.
I was not talking about this single case.
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meh... he is a cop 24/7, could have earned it in 1 -2 day...
Though glad perry kept him in horror for 2-3 days... heuheuehue
Perry-> Am i evil! yes I am :D
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lol in the week days im working i only got sunday to get 75k from being a cop.