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GTA:IV => IV:MP - Liberty City Multiplayer => IV:MP Ideas & Suggestions => Topic started by: RaFu on July 17, 2011, 05:42:29 pm
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Cops on duty shouldn't be allowed to drive anything else than a police car, at least if they are not high rank cops. If they are driving a civilian car, they shouldn't be allowed to pull over anyone.
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I think that is and has always been the case. How can he even pull you over without sirens ?
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How can he even pull you over without sirens ?
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Quote from http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=19395.0 (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=19395.0)
3. LCPD operative is allowed to use LCPD Cruiser:
A. For patrolling.
B. For transporting unit to a crime scene.
C. For transporting arrested to the police department.
4. LCPD operative is NOT allowed to use LCPD Cruiser:
A. For personal purposes/usage.
9. LCPD operative is allowed to confiscate vehicle (state/private) ONLY:
A. When the owner/driver give permission for it.
B. When the owner/driver is not in the car. (The operative should inform the owner of private ones before confiscation. Exception are critical situations.)
C. When the operative is in rush for crime scene.
D. When the duty vehicle (or any other) is destroyed or empty fuel. Lack of transport. (only on missions)
E. When the driver or passanger/s is/are stated as criminal/s / suspect/s.
10. LCPD operative is allowed to use his own/state/other vehicle while on duty:
A. In tend and critical situations when there is not other duty vehicle.
B. When duty vehicle is destroyed or empty fuel.
C. When there is not other duty vehicle near the operative. (Until he finds one)
D. When the operative is in rush for a crime scene.
E. When suspect's vehicle is faster than duty ones. (eg. chases)
F. In tasks/missions when the state/owned vehicle has advantages over duty vehicle. (In some situations)
11. LCPD operative is NOT allowed to use his own/state/other vehicle while on duty:
A. When he makes a traffic stop.
B. When he patrols.
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There is a rule that says that players that are on police duty, must drive police vehicles.
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Adding further to the topic, if people are going to be doing personal things, there's no reason to even have the "no personal use of LCPD vehicles" rule because they shouldn't be on duty doing personal stuff in the first place.
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Hmmm ok then... the rule already exists... sort of...
It's not rare to see cops on duty driving state cars and rushing suspect cars without any valid reason. Then the question is: do we have to report on these particular cases ?
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I agree with you, it shouldn't be happening in the first place.
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Adding further to the topic, if people are going to be doing personal things, there's no reason to even have the "no personal use of LCPD vehicles" rule because they shouldn't be on duty doing personal stuff in the first place.
My fault. Haven't conformed it.
On the other question.
Cops must use Police Cruisers in specific cases and in others in which they can use them. We support using them but as you know there are situations in which they are not appropriate, cannot be found (frequent problem), empty fuel or damaged (excluding it for now).
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Well it's actually a server rule that they must use them unless none are available, so technically speaking there's no reason not to unless they fall under those exceptions. The only other reason would be specialized vehicles or UC work.
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Well it's actually a server rule that they must use them unless none are available, so technically speaking there's no reason not to unless they fall under those exceptions. The only other reason would be specialized vehicles or UC work.
I didnt find any server rule saying that.
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I didnt find any server rule saying that.
It might not be published here on the forums...(yet another unfortunate scenario where someone forgets to)...but it has been a rule since before I became an Admin way back when.
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Actually I remember that when CBFasi was on command he said that LCPD suggests the cops to drive police cars but it is not obligating them.
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not this again If rules dont Have changed After Cbfasi left i will myself here Tell you guys what he stated about this issue in a simple way.
We will and always will recommend Cops to Use an Duty car When on Duty since they are supposed to use it, But no such rule They cant use an civil car like their own Exissts within argonathrpg Arpd Rules.
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not this again If rules dont Have changed After Cbfasi left i will myself here Tell you guys what he stated about this issue in a simple way.
We will and always will recommend Cops to Use an Duty car When on Duty since they are supposed to use it, But no such rule They cant use an civil car like their own Exissts within argonathrpg Arpd Rules.
That's not what I was told as an Admin. I was even forced to enforce it at the time.
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Unfortunately GTA IV Police Cruiser is a total shit, without excuse. It has miserable acceleration, poor brakes, awful handling which makes it unsuitable for chases. Note that more then 90% of the crimes are related with long and exhausting chases. We haven't tested the Police Patrol (http://gta.wikia.com/Police_Patrol) yet but I doubt it'll be better.
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Unfortunately GTA IV Police Cruiser is a total shit, without excuse. It has miserable acceleration, poor brakes, awful handling which makes it unsuitable for chases. Note that more then 90% of the crimes are related with long and exhausting chases. We haven't tested the Police Patrol (http://gta.wikia.com/Police_Patrol) yet but I doubt it'll be better.
In single player i use the police patrol..it has slightly different acceleration, brakes, and a bit more handling...i say switch the cop cars for temp. and see what they are like...maybe test them out for a month or so..then if we dont like it switch it back.. (:
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Regardless it's still a RP server. You have to deal with what you are dealt and try to work with it the best you can. If speed is an issue, you could create a high-speed pursuit unit, but don't forget that normal cops should still be driving normal PD cars ;)
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I would actually agree with I BEG YOU TO PUT both police models being put in the game (the "Impala" and the "Ford Crown" models).
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I would actually agree with I BEG YOU TO PUT both police models being put in the game (the "Impala" and the "Ford Crown" models).
I will agree. It would be nice to have both. The stations need better parking though because currently with so few patrol cars already cramping the few places to park, I don't see how they can add any more!
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There's a few more spots at the FIAP-PD, then there's the "unmarked PD". Could fit two or three more cars in the alley behind (like in SP). The one in Hove Beach also could fit one more, in the alley next to the PD and the one in Dukes could fit one more, I guess.
Maybe add some more at the PD with the helipad in Alqonquin? It has plenty of space.
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Oh ya, if you move things around there's plenty of room, but I'm saying with the way things are currently set up. :)
I'm sure FBI could use more vehicles too. 4-5 isn't much at all, so they must be suffering just as bad as LCPD is.
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Oh ya, if you move things around there's plenty of room, but I'm saying with the way things are currently set up. :)
I'm sure FBI could use more vehicles too. 4-5 isn't much at all, so they must be suffering just as bad as LCPD is.
I've seen three agents online samultaniously max. Most of them use their own cars (such as Comets), so I guess one more vehicle would do the trick for now.
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I see no reason not to add at least 3 cop cars to each of the PDs (even the ones on other islands). And if they were the Police2 or whatever its called, it would add some variety ;)
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It would be morally wrong to script-wise restrict them from civilian vehicles, wouldn't it?
But the LCPD strongly advises the usage of patrol cruisers only. More of them will be added in the future version.
Take time to explain an officer to use only the patrol car.
Thanks.
Regards.
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And if they were the Police2 or whatever its called, it would add some variety ;)
Yupp.
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More of them will be added in the future version.
More of the ones we already have of more of the ones we don't already have?
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Lets not start the "you can not fart unless you type /me had beans" shit on IV:MP...
Cops should try to act as cops which means they will by nature of their role drive a cop car. If their car gets damaged, should they take a bus back to the PD to get another one and let the cirminals run ? No way. In pursuit cops can change to any car they find, the faster the better...
And BTW... if its not there put the Enforcer in. It is fast and strong so really useful to block oncoming traffic...
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The problem is that for now, many freecops just don't care when we ask them to drive a patrol car as a normal patrol vehicle. I'm not even talking about what happens during a chase, but with regular patrols too. Example :
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/533/cometonduty.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/cometonduty.jpg/)
My understanding of this particular situation ? This guy wants to speed, but he's affraid of being suspected. So he goes on duty with his own car, in order to speed "legally".
This shouldn't be allowed, in my opinion.
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Nobody is allowed to go over speed limits...its a breaking law....you should advise them to not do it but if they continue contact high ranked of LCPD, FBI.....to take care of those guys...
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Nobody is allowed to go over speed limits...its a breaking law....you should advise them to not do it but if they continue contact high ranked of LCPD, FBI.....to take care of those guys...
The man on the picture isn't stupid, he did that when there was only freecops on the server ;)
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He is trying to avoid the suspecting, he cannot speed legally as Miha said. Next time report on me or other high-ranked LCPD member when you see someone advantaging by the cop duty.
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I doubt that with maximum 32 people on the map you can not speed unless you are a cop....
that is unless someone made the unholy idea of an autosuspect...
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I doubt that with maximum 32 people on the map you can not speed unless you are a cop....
that is unless someone made the unholy idea of an autosuspect...
Cops still have to abide by the rules that are found on the website (they get a link to it upon /duty), so if they choose to break it, and ignore your warnings, it's punishable. Could become a copban if done too often.
Also, when a cop is clearly not into anything related to his duty as a cop, and doing crimes on duty just for the sake of not getting suspected, report the player to admins. He is abusing the scripts for his own good (and gaining an advantage over others) so he will be punished, if sufficient evidence is gathered.
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I doubt that with maximum 32 people on the map you can not speed unless you are a cop....
that is unless someone made the unholy idea of an autosuspect...
Unholy, huh? How do speed trap cameras sound? xD
/me flashes back to all hell breaking loose in SA:MP because people refused to follow the law...
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I doubt that with maximum 32 people on the map you can not speed unless you are a cop....
that is unless someone made the unholy idea of an autosuspect...
No such thing as auto-suspect upon petty law break(speeding or such).
As I said, we will teach the free officers to drive the patrol cars. We will endorse it, rather than restrict them with scripts or such.
It takes seconds to explain a new policeman to use a patrol car.
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It takes seconds to explain a new policeman to use a patrol car.
It takes hours to make him do it.
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It takes hours to make him do it.
:rofl:
She's right.
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It takes hours to make him do it.
Unfortunately true
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It takes hours to make him do it.
I would say "And it takes hours to breach someone's stubbornness" but this does the trick :P