If you wanna live, don't think like a cop.
NaaahRoleplay tactics pwn! :D
Recently had a shootout with Romeo on Paruni, I was being patient staying behind cover shooting him, I remained on full HP, bit of Armor, and him on basically no health.
As soon as I went Rambo like a criminal I died.
As soon as I went Rambo like a criminal I died.
If you wanna live, you have to be smart.This topic isnt about lagg shooting, I lagg shoot 24/7 and get 80/100 shots on target, I just want to see more roleplay shootouts other than bunny hop in, shoot and bunny hop out..
>shotlag
Agreed.But When I try to Roleplay a shootout, the cops call backup and the FBI and then we all get killed.
Same thing with bank robberies.
Agreed.But When I try to Roleplay a shootout, the cops call backup and the FBI and then we all get killed.Logical.
Same thing with bank robberies.
Of course they will call backup. Do you think they will stay behind a police cruiser for 20 minutes shooting and taking the risk of dying alone while the criminal could also call his ''backup'' on a CB channel?Equally logical.
What SAMP players need is to learn to have fun from the chase/shootout itself, instead of just killing cops/suspects and consider that "winning" the situation.Wisely said.
Agreed.But When I try to Roleplay a shootout, the cops call backup and the FBI and then we all get killed.Cops calling backup = roleplay...
Same thing with bank robberies.
Often when I'm on duty and theres a mass group of suspects shooting or what ever I'll get out, crouch behind my patrol car and radio for backup then attempt to hold the criminals off in a roleplay shooting manner, but then the suspects just withdraw Combat Shotguns and storm towards you bunnyhopping, people who do that are bound to know who they are..
But whilst the suspects may do it, the police do it too.. Lets say the suspect actually attempts to roleplay with a shootout, like sometimes in Motels they'll hide at the end room shooting down the corridoor, some police officers don't even attempt to roleplay, they'll just storm in with Deagles like rambo going nuts..
IMO we are all as bad as eachother, but this topic is here to try and make people do more roleplay shootouts, instead of bunnyhopping towards your target (Suspects or police in any situation) try crouching behind something and shooting, I think it's much more effective in killing and surving yourself and looks much more realistic.
Discuss, no moaning please! :)
The Duel [HD] from The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (1966) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmdAsL1n6q4#ws):m4: :sig: They DMed that guy!
The above video applies to those criminals who come face to face with a cop - just a matter of who moves first :sig:
I agree with this to a full extent. It's sad that criminals do this, it's very irresponsable and its these people who make criminals look bad. I suppose it depends on knowing who you can and who you can't do such things with. Official groups are a good place to start if you're looking for a roleplay shootout.As soon as/if I get unbanned, I'll look for you when your an orange man. :)
Maybe we'd roleplay shootouts more if we didn't lose a f**kton of money every time we die?
Agreed really. There's not a constructive purpose in suspects losing so much money for being killed.The purpose is to not be a suspect. And that is indeed a constructive purpose. Too bad people are too stubborn and instead of trying to not get wanted or surrender to minimalize losses, they rather first fight to the death so they lose resources and then have the nerve to moan about it, whether in-game or on forums.
if we ALL used 9mm for the day, it'd be epic.This would be interesting....
Your primary goal in a shootout is to SURVIVE at all costs, even if it means taking the life of your combatants by any means possible. Making it as realistic as possible should be the last thing you even try. Besides, GTA:SA has its limitations that don't allow for realistic combat... or as you put it, "RP"Adding on to this...
NaaahEh, you suck at shooting :lol:
Recently had a shootout with Romeo on Paruni, I was being patient staying behind cover shooting him, I remained on full HP, bit of Armor, and him on basically no health.
As soon as I went Rambo like a criminal I died.
Eh, you suck at shooting :lol:
I basically try to escape from such situations, though there are some exceptions, such as if there are armed cops, i know if i get a car they blow it, so I and whoever my partner is, go close to them, and go rambo. Or when I'm in hurry, trying to escape with my friend, and the cops are dbing, we jump out and shoot them, probably to get rid of them either by killing them or scaring them away. Though i basically kill them coz we all go rambo in those shootouts. :D
realistic combat... or as you put it, "RP"Realistic Pombat.
Eh, you suck at shooting :lol:Correction, he sucks at rambo DMing ;)
I basically try to escape from such situations, though there are some exceptions, such as if there are armed cops, i know if i get a car they blow it, so I and whoever my partner is, go close to them, and go rambo. Or when I'm in hurry, trying to escape with my friend, and the cops are dbing, we jump out and shoot them, probably to get rid of them either by killing them or scaring them away. Though i basically kill them coz we all go rambo in those shootouts. :D
Correction, he sucks at rambo DMing ;)Yeah but i can kill him anywhere :<
He uses tactics, so even though the other person may be better at aiming, he can stay in cover and fire when he can.
Yeah but i can kill him anywhere :<
I once had a great role-played shoot-out. GrimReaper was the cop while I was the mexo suspect. I was camping up some stairs at a building, while Grim was below and on the other side of the road, hiding behind the jewelery store. We were like 'peak - shoot - hide', while having a conversation just like in the action movies.
But that was on MTA:VC though. What SAMP players need is to learn to have fun from the chase/shootout itself, instead of just killing cops/suspects and consider that "winning" the situation.
I once had a great role-played shoot-out. GrimReaper was the cop while I was the mexo suspect. I was camping up some stairs at a building, while Grim was below and on the other side of the road, hiding behind the jewelery store. We were like 'peak - shoot - hide', while having a conversation just like in the action movies.
But that was on MTA:VC though. What SAMP players need is to learn to have fun from the chase/shootout itself, instead of just killing cops/suspects and consider that "winning" the situation.
Realistic Pombat.Cephalectomy likes this.
Combat haters gonna hate.Wouldn't hate combat shotguns if they werent used like on a DM server..
It is about common sense which is, sadly, not very common.
Stop hate on combat. :(Combat shotguns IMO prevent roleplay situations because the people using them know of their power in non-roleplay situations, thats why people go bunnyhopping mad and charge right into a battle zone.
Three words to people who always whine about combat shotguns and even go as far as calling people "comat noobs":I don't call them Combat Noobs, I just tell them that only peopel who can't shoot good use Combats.. :lol:
Get over it.
I don't call them Combat Noobs, I just tell them that only peopel who can't shoot good use Combats.. :lol:Who can't shoot good? I simply refer to users as people who wish to take advantage of the technological advancements of a combat shotgun. If I choose to bring a 9mm to a gunfight because I think it's soooo super RP without bringing a combat shotgun and then dying to a combat shotgun, it's my own damn fault. Their goal was to kill me regardless of the weapon as quickly as possible.
Plus this topic isnt about combat Shotguns so -Back on topic.-
Plus this topic isnt about combat Shotguns so -Back on topic.-Don't try to avoid having your point of view voided by a more superior point of view simply by saying "ok guys bak on topic."
Often when I'm on duty and theres a mass group of suspects shooting or what ever I'll get out, crouch behind my patrol car and radio for backup then attempt to hold the criminals off in a roleplay shooting manner, but then the suspects just withdraw Combat Shotguns and storm towards you bunnyhopping, people who do that are bound to know who they are..you need to learn cops to RP :) we tried to rp 3 times with them in a shootout then just pew pew pew :P actualy they killed the kidnaped man too.
But whilst the suspects may do it, the police do it too.. Lets say the suspect actually attempts to roleplay with a shootout, like sometimes in Motels they'll hide at the end room shooting down the corridoor, some police officers don't even attempt to roleplay, they'll just storm in with Deagles like rambo going nuts..
IMO we are all as bad as eachother, but this topic is here to try and make people do more roleplay shootouts, instead of bunnyhopping towards your target (Suspects or police in any situation) try crouching behind something and shooting, I think it's much more effective in killing and surving yourself and looks much more realistic.
Discuss, no moaning please! :)
peopel who can't shoot good use Combats.. :lol:Who said that even if you are a poor shooter you can own with combat? Every gun needs skills. Combat won't affect a shit if you don't know lag shooting.
Who said that even if you are a poor shooter you can own with combat? Every gun needs skills. Combat won't affect a shit if you don't know lag shooting.Combat shotguns require no skill..
RP shootouts are boring, which is why no one does them. This is GTA, act like it.All RP must be boring to you then, why play Argonath?
@MikalThats why I do it. ;)
moaning requires no skill.
Combat shotguns require no skill..It does. Bring me a new player who doesn't know shit about SA:MP's Lag and lag shooting, see me dodging his bullets while walking.
It does. Bring me a new player who doesn't know shit about SA:MP's Lag and lag shooting, see me dodging his bullets while walking.I would take that bet. Let's say 100k?
I would take that bet. Let's say 100k?You sir are a veteran, therefore
You sir are a veteran, thereforeAnyone who has ever played any multiplayer game knows about lag and lag shooting.
you know 'bout
>lag
>lag shooting
>sync.
Anyone who has ever played any multiplayer game knows about lag and lag shooting.
All RP must be boring to you then, why play Argonath?>herp derp u mus5 nut liek rp den derp durr hurr
>herp derp u mus5 nut liek rp den derp durr hurrThis isnt even about real life tactics, it's about the fact that what some of you guys do with combat shotguns and some other guns is completely non-RP, yes you don't have to RP in Argonath but TBH if someone is roleplay a shootout you should HAVE to aswell.
No, I enjoy RP. Roleplay shootouts, however, are practically unenjoyable. There is no point in acting out an action which would impede your progress on killing your adversary.
Herpderp(1): herps, derps and crouches behind a car.
Herpderp(1): draws his gun and begins to fire.
*While Herpderp was "OMFG SUPER1337ster RP /me'ing" he was killed by Squeak_Araatus who flanked him very quickly.
Herpderp(1): WTF OMFG NO RP COMBAT NOOB BUNNYHOPPERRRR 111!!!!!1!1
Yes, in real life combat, people don't jump while sprinting to increase their speed... because in real life JUMPING DOESN'T INCREASE SPEED. This is a game, where real life tactics don't translate. Stop bitching, play the game how it's meant to be played, and don't cry when you die.
This isnt even about real life tactics, it's about the fact that what some of you guys do with combat shotguns and some other guns is completely non-RP, yes you don't have to RP in Argonath but TBH if someone is roleplay a shootout you should HAVE to aswell.Stop f**king moaning and deal with it. The gun is available for everyone. A weapon cannot be "non-RP", because it fucking works like every other gun, with different efficiency.
2 kg minigun with mini rockets? 2KG?!?!
If you're in a war, are you going to pick the 2 kilogram minigun that shoots mini rockets or the M1911?
This isnt even about real life tactics, it's about the fact that what some of you guys do with combat shotguns and some other guns is completely non-RP, yes you don't have to RP in Argonath but TBH if someone is roleplay a shootout you should HAVE to aswell.Why are you complaining? Can't you just say you don't have the guts to shoot properly so you have to become a literal crybaby?
Stop f**king moaning and deal with it. The gun is available for everyone. A weapon cannot be "non-RP", because it f**king works like every other gun, with different efficiency.As I said this topic isnt about Combat Shotguns it's about people never roleplay shootouts and constantly storming.
As I said this topic isnt about Combat Shotguns it's about people never roleplay shootouts and constantly storming.Then why even mention it in the first place?
Stop f**king moaning and deal with it. The gun is available for everyone. A weapon cannot be "non-RP", because it f**king works like every other gun, with different efficiency.THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
Noooooo this topic is getting trolled! *911*I had to grow and extra arm just to triple facepalm at this statement. Thanks a lot. Now I'm a freak.
I had to grow and extra arm just to triple facepalm at this statement. Thanks a lot. Now I'm a freak.Lol :lol:
Noooooo this topic is getting trolled! *911*>People don't agree with your way of thinking because it's illogical and immature.
>People don't agree with your way of thinking because it's illogical and immature.Back on topic please.. :gand:
"OMFG STOP TROL ME"
Back on topic please.. :gand:It's a bad topic, you've already been shown why.
>herp derp u mus5 nut liek rp den derp durr hurr
No, I enjoy RP. Roleplay shootouts, however, are practically unenjoyable. There is no point in acting out an action which would impede your progress on killing your adversary.
Herpderp(1): herps, derps and crouches behind a car.
Herpderp(1): draws his gun and begins to fire.
*While Herpderp was "OMFG SUPER1337ster RP /me'ing" he was killed by Squeak_Araatus who flanked him very quickly.
Herpderp(1): WTF OMFG NO RP COMBAT NOOB BUNNYHOPPERRRR 111!!!!!1!1
Yes, in real life combat, people don't jump while sprinting to increase their speed... because in real life JUMPING DOESN'T INCREASE SPEED. This is a game, where real life tactics don't translate. Stop bitching, play the game how it's meant to be played, and don't cry when you die.
Stop f**king moaning and deal with it. The gun is available for everyone. A weapon cannot be "non-RP", because it f**king works like every other gun, with different efficiency.
Then why even mention it in the first place?
A role-play shootout does absolutely not mean that you have to role-play the actual shooting and combat. You are the source of your own problems with wrong assumptions.
and get banned for godmode hacks.
Or you can roleplay you are god and cant die :D