Argonath RPG - A World of its own
Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => Topic started by: SugarD on August 09, 2011, 04:00:12 am
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Apparently many people are being very hush-hush about the ongoing riots in London, and the surrounding areas. Anyone have any updated news on it? All I can find is online news on some lesser popular sites. It seems even Yahoo! kept it quiet by pretending nothing happened, and my local news refused to acknowledge anything. Americans must be having it silenced for one reason or another.
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Americans will be americans..
bbc.co.uk/live
All updates you need.
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Americans will be americans..
bbc.co.uk/live
All updates you need.
Ya, I saw that link in the Media Center topic and I started watching it. My best guess is the U.S. Government doesn't want us to see another first-world country rioting when we are already on the brink of economic disaster.
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Ya, I saw that link in the Media Center topic and I started watching it. My best guess is the U.S. Government doesn't want us to see another first-world country rioting when we are already on the brink of economic disaster.
In the end, they'll just blame the US when they had nothing to do with it.
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In the end, they'll just blame the US when they had nothing to do with it.
Wouldn't be surprised. There's likely going to be a lot of historical references to the Rodney King case when this whole mess is over.
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Wouldn't be surprised. There's likely going to be a lot of historical references to the Rodney King case when this whole mess is over.
:gd:
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Already a topic here, http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=73294.15;topicseen (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=73294.15;topicseen.).
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In the end, they'll just blame the US when they had nothing to do with it.
What possible reasoning could be conjured to blame the US for this? The event occured when people began protesting against the killing of a man, who was shot and killed by the police. The situation then rapidly escalated, and before you knew it the whole city was rioting and in flames.
But the vast majority are only rioting so they can steal shit because they're pathetic scum without jobs. Not because they're protesting or fighting for a cause.
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No idea, but you will just see. Something random will just come out.
Looted shops, smashed cars & windows: RT video of London riots (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnVTqL2NPPI#)
Read the comments on this video, then you'll understand whats blamed on the US
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No idea, but you will just see. Something random will just come out.
Looted shops, smashed cars & windows: RT video of London riots (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnVTqL2NPPI#)
Read the comments on this video, then you'll understand whats blamed on the US
So what? A couple of people trolling. I do however see a top comment expressing aggitation that the US haven't started rioting as well, considering the circumstances.
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So what? A couple of people trolling. I do however see a top comment expressing aggitation that the US haven't started rioting as well, considering the circumstances.
If we start rioting and destroying are own country, we will end up with nothing.
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Guys, let's discuss this, not fight about it. This is a pretty serious situation. A lot of our fellow Argonathian friends are from the U.K.
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If we start rioting and destroying are own country, we will end up with nothing.
By rioting I didn't necessarily mean start destroying your own country, now did I. I do not approve and fucking despise the situation my country currently faces. But however, there's nothing wrong with a peaceful protest.
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By rioting I didn't necessarily mean start destroying your own country, now did I. I do not approve and f**king despise the situation my country currently faces. But however, there's nothing wrong with a peaceful protest.
CALM DOWN!
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Supertroll...
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Guys, be mature about this. People are being injured and killed over a national incident in England. This is nothing to joke about.
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CALM DOWN!
Dude, we're not fighting. Just because I used profanity in my last post does not mean we're now fighting.
Supertrol..
lol
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Dude, we're not fighting. Just because I used profanity in my last post does not mean we're now fighting.
lol
he says he sorry
lol
Anyway, I was watching this on CNN earlier, as well as on NBC late tonight. Looks bad.
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CNN
NBC
>mfw
:rules:
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Apparently an emergency meeting has been called with the Prime Minister as things have gotten out of control for police. I've spoken with a couple friends in the U.K. and they report their safe, but there's still many more of our's out there we don't know about yet. Considering a very large amount of Argo players come from there, I just hope that every single one of our members gets out of this alive and safe.
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Apparently an emergency meeting has been called with the Prime Minister as things have gotten out of control for police. I've spoken with a couple friends in the U.K. and they report their safe, but there's still many more of our's out there we don't know about yet. Considering a very large amount of Argo players come from there, I just hope that every single one of our members gets out of this alive and safe.
'Out of control' is an understatement. There simply isn't enough police to handle the situation.
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'Out of control' is an understatement. There simply isn't enough police to handle the situation.
It's horrible seeing these images and knowing we can't do anything to help those that are begging for it. I just hope this all ends soon...and peacefully. The last thing I want to see is an all-out war because things don't get under control.
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It's horrible seeing these images and knowing we can't do anything to help those that are begging for it. I just hope this all ends soon...and peacefully. The last thing I want to see is an all-out war because things don't get under control.
I hope it does as well, but things aren't looking good at all. We're more than certainly going to lose our rights to host the Olympics due to this - not that I really gave a shit anyway.
The thing that annoys me is that these rioters will, without a care, go about causing all this damage to the city, and when the government makes cuts to pay for the repairs, they'll just start moaning about that.
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The thing that annoys me is that these rioters will, without a care, go about causing all this damage to the city, and when the government makes cuts to pay for the repairs, they'll just start moaning about that.
Ya, the unfortunate cycle of the world economy. People screw up and cost themselves money, the government charges them to pay for it for them. Kinda odd how that works. Hopefully it won't be as bad as the Rodney King riots. We can only wait and see though...
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This is the exact reason why we don't allow such topics and why the Political/Religion board was closed off.
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This is the exact reason why we don't allow such topics and why the Political/Religion board was closed off.
This is not a political or religious debate. It's world news in which thousands are being displaced, threatened, injured, or killed. This isn't a joke.
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This is not a political or religious debate. It's world news in which thousands are being displaced, threatened, injured, or killed. This isn't a joke.
It isn't a joke. It is political.
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God forbid we talk about something that affects a majority of us here.
Sure hope they come out of this with a peaceful resolution.
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It isn't a joke. It is political.
Please tell me how this is in any way political. This has nothing to do with politics. Until I see someone holding a mass-vote on how to deal with the situation, or a political leader make a statement regarding England's economy as a result of this, I do not see this as political in any single way whatsoever.
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Though Sugar, I do have to agree with you, my local news channels are not even saying anything about it. Though the Russian feed I have at home (VESTI24) gives so much more detail and actual footage and stuff. It is very surprising and I feel that something is going on that US doesn't want us to know...
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...my local news channels are not even saying anything about it...
Same with mine.
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This is the top story in Australian news... and my local news' website is covered with it.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/)
I do hope it all ends soon..
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Compare it to my local channel...
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/index.html (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/index.html)
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Neither in my local news.. not one peep.
That's why I usually go to www.aol.com (http://www.aol.com) (regardless if America Online sucked back in the 90's, it's more of a news website now..)
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Its a pretty terrible situation, I live in London and 3 of the towns that were attacked are 5-10 minutes away from me.
There so many places in London that have been attacked, cars set on fire, shops looted, people's houses being broken into, its just horrible.
I cannot believe our government has not even thought about using rubber bullets, tear gas or even calling in the army, why should us decent citizens be forced to stay in our houses in fear of being caught up in the violance.
Looks like now taxpayers will have to take the pain of all the damages, for those fools who are doing this, they have nothing to live for, its the usual wannabe London "gangsters" who's parents don't care or worry about what they do, they allow them to stay out in the streets all night long, they don't bother in school.
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My stepbrother lives there and he owns business, I hope he is OK
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Please tell me how this is in any way political. This has nothing to do with politics. Until I see someone holding a mass-vote on how to deal with the situation, or a political leader make a statement regarding England's economy as a result of this, I do not see this as political in any single way whatsoever.
It has everything to do with politics.
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Its a pretty terrible situation, I live in London and 3 of the towns that were attacked are 5-10 minutes away from me.
There so many places in London that have been attacked, cars set on fire, shops looted, people's houses being broken into, its just horrible.
I cannot believe our government has not even thought about using rubber bullets, tear gas or even calling in the army, why should us decent citizens be forced to stay in our houses in fear of being caught up in the violance.
Looks like now taxpayers will have to take the pain of all the damages, for those fools who are doing this, they have nothing to live for, its the usual wannabe London "gangsters" who's parents don't care or worry about what they do, they allow them to stay out in the streets all night long, they don't bother in school.
Actually it looks a lot like ARPD vs i9....
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London meet-up idea. Succes. :cool:
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Actually it looks a lot like ARPD vs i9....
:lol:
No but seriously... I only see i9 out there. If you know what I mean..
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I heard BBM might get disabled so the rioters couldn't communicate trough that anymore, would be a bummer.
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Apparently Frank Hawk moved his Police Brutality protests from LSPD to London...
And we all worrying here while he is eating a Big Mac without paying :/
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It has everything to do with politics.
Show me a political reference that has anything to do with people rioting over police shooting someone.
I heard BBM might get disabled so the rioters couldn't communicate trough that anymore, would be a bummer.
BBM?
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BBM?
Blackberry Messenger.
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Blackberry Messenger.
Ah ha...I saw a lot of references to that on a few news sites and I was wondering why it was being mentioned so much. So that explains it...
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This is so fucked up.
My plane landed about 4 hours ago, in London so I got my mum to talk me up to Tottenham so I could have a look at it.
All I can say is what the fuck?
So many historical buildings, fucked, it's disgusting what people will do to make a bit off money.
If it spreads to where I live (I hope it doesnt.......) I will be getting myself a baseball bat and placing it at my front door. I am not putting up with this low life scum kicking my door in, and Im not going to go out and cause shit, but, you know, just in case they break in, its there if I need it.. Although I live a few miles away from the town centre there aren't actually that many low life scum like that around here, not all people, but the main source of this are people who live on council estates, and thank god the nearest one is about 6 miles away. But
Yeah in case you couldn't tell I am pretty pissed I come back to this.
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From what I have seen on the news, its mainly teenagers causing this shit.
So, I guess you get the idea... On the news I spotted a lot of them stealing laptops, wallets, cashier machines.... They even ripped apart a ATM... So what does that tell you?
They want more money.
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They want more money.
They should probably fucking work for it! Lazy scums need to grow the fuck up and understand that nobody will take care of them and that they are on their own.
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Show me a political reference that has anything to do with people rioting over police shooting someone.
They are rioting cause they feel that British politicians has turned their backs on the constant injustices that is happening to their community last few years, the death of this guy, was just a trigger.
Here you go:
http://youtu.be/qSeoknpaYxI?t=5m8s (http://youtu.be/qSeoknpaYxI?t=5m8s)
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They should probably f**king work for it! Lazy scums need to grow the f**k up and understand that nobody will take care of them and that they are on their own.
That's exactly it. This is the reason those scums are all out there looting shit; because they're idiots with no jobs, who can't afford it. They blame the government for the lack of jobs and the economic situation, but destroying your own city isn't going to f**king solve it.
They are rioting cause they feel that British politicians has turned their backs on the constant injustices that is happening to their community last few years, the death of this guy, was just a trigger.
Here you go:
http://youtu.be/qSeoknpaYxI?t=5m8s (http://youtu.be/qSeoknpaYxI?t=5m8s)
While a small minority are actually fighting for a cause, the vast majority are just low-life, looting scum. They don't really give a crap about the guy that was shot - to them, it's just their excuse.
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They are rioting cause they feel that British politicians has turned their backs on the constant injustices that is happening to their community last few years, the death of this guy, was just a trigger.
Here you go:
http://youtu.be/qSeoknpaYxI?t=5m8s (http://youtu.be/qSeoknpaYxI?t=5m8s)
They are rioting over the fact that someone was unjustly shot in their eyes. It is only continuing due to political issues, but that still does not make this topic political. If we were discussing the political reasons behind the riots themselves, then that would make this topic about politics. Right now it's just world news.
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They are rioting over the fact that someone was unjustly shot in their eyes. It is only continuing due to political issues, but that still does not make this topic political. If we were discussing the political reasons behind the riots themselves, then that would make this topic about politics. Right now it's just world news.
If this was only done by one shooting in Tothenham, then it wouldn't spread around entire London area, North and South, not to mention other cities like Bristol, and even Liverpool.
While a small minority are actually fighting for a cause, the vast majority are just low-life, looting scum. They don't really give a crap about the guy that was shot - to them, it's just their excuse.
I think everyone is aware of that.
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If this was only done by one shooting in Tothenham, then it wouldn't spread around entire London area, North and South, not to mention other cities like Bristol, and even Liverpool.
You would be surprised. When the Rodney King incident happened in Los Angeles in 1992, it created a national incident that caused the federal government to have to try the officers involved in court in an area that didn't have people with pre-conceived beliefs either way about whether they had done it for racism, or to follow correct police procedures. The hatred caused by this, and the resulting verdicts, not only caused the L.A. riots, but it also caused police across the country to become hated and believed that all were racist...which is something that is still believed worldwide today as a result.
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If this was only done by one shooting in Tothenham, then it wouldn't spread around entire London area, North and South, not to mention other cities like Bristol, and even Liverpool.
I think everyone is aware of that.
People jump on the bandwagon pretty damn fast.
I think everyone is aware of that.
lolkbro.
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Luckily nobody has yet been killed (afaik) apart from that one guy who got shot in Croydon.
They are rioting over the fact that someone was unjustly shot in their eyes.
Not anymore they aren't. The protest in Tottenham was regarding this but every incident since has just been shitheads taking the opportunity to steal and loot because they're too poor and too lazy to get a job.
This has f**k all to do with the guy who got shot by police. Most people probably don't even know about him at all.
Also this has nothing to do with people "rioting against the government". I think anyone who says that overestimates the intelligence of these scumbags. They're just rioting to burn shit because they're unintelligent savages and to steal stuff because they're greedy, lazy and poor.
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Luckily nobody has yet been killed (afaik) apart from that one guy who got shot in Croydon.
Not anymore they aren't. The protest in Tottenham was regarding this but every incident since has just been shitheads taking the opportunity to steal and loot because they're too poor and too lazy to get a job.
This has f**k all to do with the guy who got shot by police. Most people probably don't even know about him at all.
Also this has nothing to do with people "rioting against the government". I think anyone who says that overestimates the intelligence of these scumbags. They're just rioting to burn shit because they're unintelligent savages and to steal stuff because they're greedy, lazy and poor.
I'm aware that the rioting is just by kids now. I only meant what sparked it. I agree though, this is absolutely ridiculous. Both the police, and the dumb citizens involved that are taking advantage of this situation, need to get their shit together. The Police Commissioner needs to issue a retraining for every officer out there so that they are better prepared to handle this, and the citizens need to open up their damn eyes and fix their damn attitudes. If you want to prosecute the cops for shooting someone you believe to be innocent, demand their asses be taken to court, not tear apart your own damn city to take out your rage, only to allow for your own kids to start stealing shit and attack the cops.
As a side note, I think the whole world needs to learn from this. Apparently the Rodney King incidents weren't enough to wake people the **** up.
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If you want to prosecute the cops for shooting someone you believe to be innocent, demand their asses be taken to court, not tear apart your own damn city to take out your rage,
The protest in Tottenham was peaceful, people unrelated to it started to riot and it spread from there. Like I said, it stopped being about the police shooting in a matter of minutes.
As a side note, I think the whole world needs to learn from this. Apparently the Rodney King incidents weren't enough to wake people the **** up.
I don't even know who that is, so I can guarantee you that the chavs from the council estates probably also don't.
Man, this is really quite widespread. One of my mates knows a guy who looted some stuff in Birmingham. Shit's crazy, bro.
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You would be surprised. When the Rodney King incident happened in Los Angeles in 1992, it created a national incident that caused the federal government to have to try the officers involved in court in an area that didn't have people with pre-conceived beliefs either way about whether they had done it for racism, or to follow correct police procedures. The hatred caused by this, and the resulting verdicts, not only caused the L.A. riots, but it also caused police across the country to become hated and believed that all were racist...which is something that is still believed worldwide today as a result.
I haven't saw any mass riots in San Francisco or Sacramento cause of Rodney King case, like it happen in Liverpool and other cities, far away from London.
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I haven't saw any mass riots in San Francisco or Sacramento cause of Rodney King case, like it happen in Liverpool and other cities, far away from London.
Well that's part of my point. The hatred was felt country-wide, and resulted in many smaller incidents arising. On the flip side of my other argument, police were able to contain this to just Los Angeles because they had the appropriate training and access to things they needed, despite it being heavily out of control in such a large city.
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I just read on the Swedish newspaper that they will set in 16,000 policemen in the London areas to calm everything down, every policeman is now called back to work from their holidays.
And I even saw a picture of a blowed up London bus who was taken by a Swede who studies at the university in London.
(http://gfx.aftonbladet-cdn.se/image/13442548/837/normal/3a40d500d33fc/clapham.jpg)
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As long as there are politicians making up excuses for criminal behaviour, it will continue.
There are thousands of jobless people in the UK, millions across Europe. So it is allowed for them to steal from shops and destroy everyones property because they have no job and no money ?
Stop defending them and start taking them out. Either by some hits on the head and jail, or if they do not wish to listen by more force. Give them a reason to protest against police brutality and they will stop protesting...
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I just read on the Swedish newspaper that they will set in 16,000 policemen in the London areas to calm everything down, every policeman is now called back to work from their holidays.
And I even saw a picture of a blowed up London bus who was taken by a Swede who studies at the university in London.
(http://gfx.aftonbladet-cdn.se/image/13442548/837/normal/3a40d500d33fc/clapham.jpg)
I guess that means my brother will be called up for service then, seeing as he is a fully trained and capable riot officer. Really concerned for his safety right now.
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We need this:
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/267334_2165079400665_1057033435_2451817_8172335_n.jpg)
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Haha agreeable Panda.
I think they will end these riots now by sending in so much police force. And what Gandalf stated, there is no reason for them to steal from others just because they have no money or job.
If they now don't have it, they can try to fix up their lives instead of steal and ruin the life of others. I wonder how much the English goverment have to pay for all the damage and shit that have happened in London.
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Alsatian, I wish your brother luck. I hope he stays safe out there.
Panda, as funny as that is, Idk if it's the right time for the jokes quite yet, although I have to somewhat agree that heavier artillery might be a consideration here lol
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Although in an earlier post, i joked about the Canadians using some rather questionable actions in their riot control tactics. I have to say im disappointed. For a country that invented Law Enforcement and developed most of what it is today, they seem incredibly under trained, under-equipped and under-staffed to handle a situation as large as it has become. The trick is to use all available resources to quell any riot WHEN IT STARTS, not allow it to grow to a size that eventually requires said amount of opposing police force.
I have been watching videos since the beginning and frankly, the cops basically stood their and watched it happen.
Another video ill post show the prime example of how to deal with a protest. Police should never prevent a protest as long as its peacefull BUT they should have all force available to remove individuals who intend to cause violence, so that the peacefull protestors feel safe doing what they are rightfully allowed to do. Here, the Toronto Police came out, full force to make sure that they removed the criminals, and protected the innocent civilians. Things turned violent at times, but it shows the right way of doing things.
"Detained" - Sunday June 27, 2010 - G20 Toronto Queen and Spadina Protestors and Civilians Arrested (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCaPQ6-dFNg#ws)
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The trick is to use all available resources to quell any riot WHEN IT STARTS, not allow it to grow to a size that eventually requires said amount of opposing police force.
Out of this entire situation, that is probably the best quote I have seen so far. Well said. It's pretty much the entire Met's mistakes in a nutshell.
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They f**king need to send out the police with tear gas and rubber bullets, its got so bad that its even hit the actual area I live in.
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If you're British:
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337 (http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337)
There are reports of unrest in Manchester, but it seems like the police have put down the threat before it grew.
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If you're British:
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337 (http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337)
There are reports of unrest in Manchester, but it seems like the police have put down the threat before it grew.
Signed it. Quite fitting how they've left the banks and post offices alone - don't want to miss out on their benefits in the morning, now do they.
This video right here makes me feel sick. Absolute scum. And the way he walks off at the end thinking he's a tough guy because he's just robbed a guy who's near enough out of it... sickening.
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150333636850851#&comments (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150333636850851#&comments)
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Signed it. Quite fitting how they've left the banks and post offices alone - don't want to miss out on their benefits in the morning, now do they.
This video right here makes me feel sick. Absolute scum. And the way he walks off at the end thinking he's a tough guy because he's just robbed a guy who's near enough out of it... sickening.
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150333636850851#&comments (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150333636850851#&comments)
I can't even put into words how grossly disgusting that video made me feel. We call ourselves human beings, yet we do such horrible things to each other. We don't deserve to exist on this planet.
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Disgrace ...
Get the army in there now and shoot the rioters with rubber bullets and then lock them up for a minimum 20 years.
See how they like it then.
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We need this:
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/267334_2165079400665_1057033435_2451817_8172335_n.jpg)
No.
Chuck Norris.
It's just a shame.
:ps: Nexxt if i see you doing this shiet you are done son!
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When I said there wasn't enough police, I was being serious... as you can see. Looks like war scenes - absolute chaos.
Those brave men and women putting their lives on the line need to be equipped with guns loaded with rubber bullets and teargas fucking now.
UK / London - Street fights - New riots, August 9, 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7bzMSTpUDw#ws)
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I was about to post that video as well, Alsa.
Sick to see.
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Jobless foreigners ruining the lives of people who have worked long and hard just because they can't be fucked to get a job. Sums up the situation.
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London Street Battles: Video of mad clashes, riots out of control (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQksa-KSV4Y#)
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This is so f**ked up that we are now using ANTI TERRORIST BOMB PROOF trucks which are ONLY used at airports.
Man this is starting to get way out of control.
‪UK London Riots this evening 9th August 2011 - Police in armoured vehicles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtHF6gnfoCk#)
Hell they are even of thinking of rolling our Martial Law... Wow.
London Riots: Government Prepares Troops - Martial Law Imminent. - 9th August 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb1tUzsazZA#ws)
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This is getting way out of control...
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Use the same method back, start throwing back rocks and flasks on those who is doing it.
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Use the same method back, start throwing back rocks and flasks on those who is doing it.
They can't. Then the cops would be breaking the law too. :P
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They can't. Then the cops would be breaking the law too. :P
That's the thing, the laws stops the police to efficiently stop this riots. Pay back with the same medicine and those in the riots will understand what they are exactly doing against those police officers.
Something that amazes me aswell is the stupidity of the government. Giving the police tiny plastic shields to protect them from rocks and bottles and everything else? I would like to see the IQ test of the person which is in charge of the police force.
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Rest assured that once this all plays out there will be new laws put into place to keep Britain safe and give police more funding and power. :cop:
This is so f**ked up that we are now using ANTI TERRORIST BOMB PROOF trucks which are ONLY used at airports.
Bro, they had Hummers with machine guns when the National Guard rolled into LA.
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Why are these savages allowed to live in our modern day society?
These low lifes are a disgrace.
If I was in charge I'd equip the Police with Assault Rifles and give them authorization to kill anyone who attacked them.
I guess that's why I'm not in charge.
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This reminds me a riot in Estonia's capital Tallinn in 2007. The cops actually started forcing people down one by one and it worked, altho the riot was of a smaller size and consisted of pillaging mostly, only small dump fires were started...Too bad the police can't really do anything without having to listen to the bitching of some people for using too much force. After the riot here, Russia(Yeah, Russia. The Government removed a statue which glorified The Soviet Union and the occupation->riot) officially showed their dislike of Estonian police force's actions.
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There are now police deployed which are armed on the streets, that just does not happen in the UK.
There are only a few forces which are armed regularly, The Nuclear Police Service, NI Police, Aviation Police and a few others.
To have police walking the streets armed is just strange.
In the town center where I live, there are a few police walking armed, riots aren't even around here yet.
I really am sick of this country's youth culture.
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Just confirmed: The bullet fired into the officer's radio was a police-issue jacketed round. The weapon the suspect had was not fired, although was found on scene. Multiple officers fired upon the suspect, thus killing him.
Here comes Martial Law...
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30 or so yobs have started breaking into shops and stealing stuff in my town. So the area of affect now ranges from Liverpool to deep South East England. I honestly just can't believe it, those no life scum. Martial Law needs to be put into effect immediately.
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30 or so yobs have started breaking into shops and stealing stuff in my town. So the area of affect now ranges from Liverpool to deep South East England. I honestly just can't believe it, those no life scum. Martial Law needs to be put into effect immediately.
Get your blackbeaters, round up a posse, and crack some heads.
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Hope the riots will stop soon and the Brittish goverment realize that they have to stop it real soon. Peoples lifes get ruin.
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Get your blackbeaters, round up a posse, and crack some heads.
As much as I don't want to, looks like we'll have to. According to one of my mates, they've set a few shops on fire and are growing in numbers. Before I know it I'll have a few jobless c**nts breaking into my house. They'll be greeted by a baseball bat to their skull.
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As much as I don't want to, looks like we'll have to. According to one of my mates, they've set a few shops on fire and are growing in numbers. Before I know it I'll have a few jobless c**nts breaking into my house. They'll be greeted by a baseball bat to their skull.
That's my bo... they have baseball bats in Britain? :hit:
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I really an getting to the end of my tether with this.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024203/UK-riots-flare-Manchester-Birmingham-London-s-FOURTH-night-violence.html?ito=feeds-newsxml (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024203/UK-riots-flare-Manchester-Birmingham-London-s-FOURTH-night-violence.html?ito=feeds-newsxml)
> Near me now. Great.
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That's my bo... they have baseball bats in Britain? :hit:
My brother brought one back with him for me when he went to NY. :lol:
Some images of my town beginning to go up in flames:
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/229766_10150275253704732_773469731_7416361_4651245_n.jpg (http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/229766_10150275253704732_773469731_7416361_4651245_n.jpg)
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Cant see it bro.
Right click it and select Copy Image URL.
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Cant see it bro.
Right click it and select Copy Image URL.
Oops, sorry about that. Change the link, should work now.
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Oops, sorry about that. Change the link, should work now.
I can, and fucking hoodlums are disgusting.
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Great, now the kids are following what the adults are doing..
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/09/article-2024203-0D5EF66400000578-615_470x728.jpg)
Seriously, what the fuck.
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Great, now the kids are following what the adults are doing..
Seriously, what the f**k.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-14469884 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-14469884)
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I hate where my town is. -_-
We're situated in between Manchester and Liverpool. Riot's are happening in Liverpool and Manchester right now -_-
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I hate where my town is. -_-
We're situated in between Manchester and Liverpool. Riot's are happening in Liverpool and Manchester right now -_-
I suppose you can't tell much difference in Liverpool.
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I hate where my town is. -_-
We're situated in between Manchester and Liverpool. Riot's are happening in Liverpool and Manchester right now -_-
I spoke to Callum from the MTA 0.x dev team and he's in the suburbs outside of Manchester, so far all is well there. VRocker, the creator of LU is in Birmingham and reports he's doing okay too. I still haven't spoke with Amy, but last I heard, rioting spread to Nottingham, which she lives within. This is a total mess.
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I suppose you can't tell much difference in Liverpool.
Yeah. :lol:
Warrington's public seem smart enough to not destroy there own community.
Sugar - Not what I'm hearing on TV, but Nottingham is nowhere near me. :P
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My brother's just been called up to Boreham. Just f**king great.
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My brother's just been called up to Boreham. Just f**king great.
Best of luck to him man. He has my full support.
Post Merge: August 09, 2011, 11:51:56 pm
Yeah. :lol:
Warrington's public seem smart enough to not destroy there own community.
Sugar - Not what I'm hearing on TV, but Nottingham is nowhere near me. :P
Been watching BBC news live online. Apparently it's spreading to other places now as well.
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A police station in Nottingham got fired bombed.
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A police station in Nottingham got fired bombed.
Just crazy.
http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/Riots-spread-Nottingham-police-station-firebombed/story-13096622-detail/story.html (http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/Riots-spread-Nottingham-police-station-firebombed/story-13096622-detail/story.html)
EDIT:
Videos showcasing unity between the police and around 600 people in Enfield cleansing the community. F**king props to all of them.
http://www.twitvid.com/DWZPW (http://www.twitvid.com/DWZPW)
Group of people protecting the streets in Enfield London Riots (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVbng-J60O8#)
Also, a substantial number of football firms such as The Gooners, Headhunters and Yid Army have united in an effort to protect their cities.
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The civilians walking alongside the police is absolutely incredible. THAT is how people should react to police!
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Just saw a police officer live on BBC smacking a masked guy with his baton.
Good stuff guys, keep it up. Hopefully they can utilise the plastic bullets to drive these fuckers back even harder.
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It's no longer just in London, it's now in Wales too.
Anyway I just recorded someone running out of a shop with a 40" flat screen TV along with the other people that were smashing it up. I'll post the video tomorrow!
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To resist the riots in the UK people needs to be like this, especially the law enforcement and everyone around. ;)
Braveheart Freedom Speech (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlf9ZLnrtiE#)
Braveheart End (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n0Q8THJE60#ws)
Braveheart scene - Victory (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH-K3MU7-fA#)
They should get inspired like this and fight back.
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Too bad they aren't Scottish.
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Too bad they aren't Scottish.
Just took it as an example. It's quite inspiring :D
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Just took it as an example. It's quite inspiring :D
Didn't they like all die at the end? Haven't seen the film in quite some time.
111 officers have been injured, with many being hospitalized and requiring surgery to treat broken bones, concussions and eye injuries. Five service dogs have also been injured. The most injured dog suffered a head injury after recieving a brick to the head by a yob. Another one had all of its teeth broken as a result of a brick being lobbed at its face.
Feel quite physically sick. Heartless pricks.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3742674/Met-says-111-cops-injured-in-riots.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3742674/Met-says-111-cops-injured-in-riots.html)
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Reports of 2 more people killed in a hit and run related to the riots...
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The situation in London is being overplayed abroad and underplayed in the UK - Being in the brunt of the action in London, I can assure you all that these are nothing more than concentrated pockets of violence, stemming from 15-16 year kids who have nothing better to do. The UK Government is caught in a challenging situation whereby with the world watching, it is keen not to be accused of double standards as demonstrated in Syria and Libya. The media has a habit of overplaying things and with News International's recent torching, I'm not surprised at the height of the coverage either.
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The situation in London is being overplayed abroad and underplayed in the UK - Being in the brunt of the action in London, I can assure you all that these are concentrated pockets of violence, stemming from 15-16 year kids who have nothing better to do. The UK Government is caught in a challenging situation whereby with the world watching, it is keen not to be accused of double standards as demonstrated in Syria and Libya. The media has a habit of overplaying things and with News International's recent torching, I'm not surprised at the height of the coverage either.
Height of the coverage? If anything, outside of the UK there is very little coverage. The U.S. media is barely even acknowledging the situation, and a few other media outlets worldwide are just repeating old information. If anything there isn't enough clear information on what's going on. I'd say BBC at this point is the only media outlet that has tried to cover things live as they develop without adding any personal opinions on the situation. Not trying to argue with you man, I'm just upset how many media outlets have nearly completely ignored these incidents.
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Height of the coverage? If anything, outside of the UK there is very little coverage. The U.S. media is barely even acknowledging the situation, and a few other media outlets worldwide are just repeating old information. If anything there isn't enough clear information on what's going on. I'd say BBC at this point is the only media outlet that has tried to cover things live as they develop without adding any personal opinions on the situation. Not trying to argue with you man, I'm just upset how many media outlets have nearly completely ignored these incidents.
U.S.A Maybe.
Australia are all over it, it has made front pages in multiple papers.
Malta is.
Germany is.
France.
Italy.
Spain
The list goes on...
The Guardian is a good site to follow it on also.
I don't like Sky News.. But some of their coverage has been good.
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16046035 (http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16046035)
http://www.channel4.com/news/ (http://www.channel4.com/news/)
http://english.aljazeera.net/ (http://english.aljazeera.net/)
http://rt.com/trends/london-mass-riots/ (http://rt.com/trends/london-mass-riots/)
Yeah, follow those, they have been the best for info so far.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/series/london-riots-live (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/series/london-riots-live)
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The situation in London is being overplayed abroad and underplayed in the UK - Being in the brunt of the action in London, I can assure you all that these are nothing more than concentrated pockets of violence, stemming from 15-16 year kids who have nothing better to do. The UK Government is caught in a challenging situation whereby with the world watching, it is keen not to be accused of double standards as demonstrated in Syria and Libya. The media has a habit of overplaying things and with News International's recent torching, I'm not surprised at the height of the coverage either.
If it are a few pockets of violence, why they need 16.000 policemen to stop them ?
I see coverage mostly from BBC, and what I see is that if there is an "incident" police form a line at 100m distance and wait for the guys to get bored of their actions.....
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If it are a few pockets of violence, why they need 16.000 policemen to stop them ?
I see coverage mostly from BBC, and what I see is that if there is an "incident" police form a line at 100m distance and wait for the guys to get bored of their actions.....
We are even considering Imposing Martial Law.
Which has NEVER happened here before.
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Quote from twitter from @wes078: "Only in the UK could rioters in 100 pound trainers organising things on 300 pound smartphones claim to be in poverty... #londonriots #manchesterriots" :D (slightly edited since the forum can't handle pound signs :lol:)
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Now this is how you clean up the scumbags from your hood!
FC Millwall ( <3) fans, not only that they didn't allow the rioters to get into their part of south London, but also they chased them away back where they came from.
Civil War in London! Millwall vs the rioters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64OI6dVM9uU#)
(http://i.imgur.com/QCeac.jpg)
This is a picture of Millwall fans, in front of their main pub, guarding and protecting their neighborhood, they organized night patrols, in case the rioters try sneaking during the night. Local patriotism above all.
Respect.
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Absolute fucking respect to all of them. All the firms are uniting and fighting the rioters - Yid Army, The Gooners, Headhunters and so on.
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A police station in Nottingham got fired bombed.
that my friend; Is where I live D:
Anyway, i'll give updates on Nottingham "riots"
Victoria Centre (Shopping Centre) was broken into at 4AM the otherr day and House of Fraser (expensive department store) was broken into
A man in Arnold was kicked to death
They set fire to a Tyre Centre
They stole a roof from a Private School
Fire Brigade have to send 2+ Engines to every shout to look after one and other
JD (Sports Shop) was broken into - No Surprise.
NOTTINGHAM SNEINTON RIOT - thurgaton Street on 10/08/2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N485mP4x258#)
A Post Office was also set on fire in Nottingham
Post Merge: August 10, 2011, 06:46:36 pm
Just found this for you guys who want reliable info:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8689355/London-riots-all-incidents-mapped-in-London-and-around-the-UK.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8689355/London-riots-all-incidents-mapped-in-London-and-around-the-UK.html)
EDIT 2: http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/VIDEO-Watch-bomb-attack-Canning-Circus-Police/story-13104109-detail/story.html (http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/VIDEO-Watch-bomb-attack-Canning-Circus-Police/story-13104109-detail/story.html) - Video of the police station
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My best guess is the U.S. Government doesn't want us to see another first-world country rioting when we are already on the brink of economic disaster.
The U.S. government doesn't have a choice as to what the media can and can't say.
Absolute f**king respect to all of them. All the firms are uniting and fighting the rioters - Yid Army, The Gooners, Headhunters and so on.
That's just awesome.
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The U.S. government doesn't have a choice as to what the media can and can't say.
Correct. They just don't wanna show it because they're too worried about our economy and all that. However some stations broadcasted it last night.
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The U.S. government doesn't have a choice as to what the media can and can't say.
Not exactly true. They've had control over media for years. They just can't publicly change things like other countries can because if they are caught, they are in some serious trouble. The U.S. Government is very good at covering things up. That's why there's so many mysteries behind multiple things throughout the U.S. History that they refuse to comment on or explain :P
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All I know is that I cannot go to McDonalds, because the Oxford McDonalds now has no windows.
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All I know is that I cannot go to McDonalds, because the Oxford McDonalds now has no windows.
Reading that just made me speechless...
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Watch the riots live.
http://news.sky.com/home/liveplus (http://news.sky.com/home/liveplus)
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Watch the riots live.
http://news.sky.com/home/liveplus (http://news.sky.com/home/liveplus)
Glad you found this, cuz BBC stopped broadcasting again. Last night their feed was down altogether. Today they are showing pre-recorded stuff again.
Edit: Sky News is just repeating stuff too... :(
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Glad you found this, cuz BBC stopped broadcasting again. Last night their feed was down altogether. Today they are showing pre-recorded stuff again.
Edit: Sky News is just repeating stuff too... :(
Partly, yes, but they are featuring live coverage of it, just keep watching.
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Partly, yes, but they are featuring live coverage of it, just keep watching.
I did. They are just doing the same thing as BBC and looping the pre-recorded stuff right now.
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'We are the Enfield Army': Video of locals chasing rioters in London (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6p4itkdLi8#)
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If it are a few pockets of violence, why they need 16.000 policemen to stop them ?
I see coverage mostly from BBC, and what I see is that if there is an "incident" police form a line at 100m distance and wait for the guys to get bored of their actions.....
To act as a deterrent, make a statement to the rioters that such criminality will be tolerated and whenever needed will be stopped/prevented through proportionate measures. The Government have made it clear to the House of Commons today, that those responsible for the violence will be punished to the full extent of the law and I hope to see it come to fruition.
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If they just shot a few of the rioters the bastards would stop...
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If they just had decent CCTV and Satellite photographs then they'd catch the perpetrators afterwards, dissuading people from doing it more...
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Sometimes I just wanna go there, get equipment from the riot police or whatever those MP are and just HELP them!
Damn scums without lives loot in shops who are owned by people who are WORKING for their money and are totally INNOCENT.
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If they just shot a few of the rioters the bastards would stop...
There would be terrible long term hatred and repercussions. It would make the tension between the government and select people of the public all the worse.
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http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/8/11/cameron-threatens-shut-down-uk-social-networks/ (http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/8/11/cameron-threatens-shut-down-uk-social-networks/)
Do you have a reputable news source for this?
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Wellingborough Riots 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oagE6Dx2y84#)
That made me laugh so hard.
And how, at least last night it wasn't too bad because of the rain.
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lol
x)
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Signed it. Quite fitting how they've left the banks and post offices alone - don't want to miss out on their benefits in the morning, now do they.
This video right here makes me feel sick. Absolute scum. And the way he walks off at the end thinking he's a tough guy because he's just robbed a guy who's near enough out of it... sickening.
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150333636850851#&comments (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150333636850851#&comments)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14497763 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14497763)
:hurray:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14497763 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14497763)
:hurray:
Holy shit, f**k yes! Hope they charge that bloke and he goes down.
From the article:
In it, he said his attackers "threatened to stab me, they told me they had knives".
He added: "Some of them were quite young, maybe still in primary school. They had their hoods on and demanded my bicycle."
Sickening...
Manchester Riot Police Beat Teenagers On Bikes 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQa8B0xJFzI#ws)
Some proper justice right there. If the police aren't going to be equipped with the necessary equipment to deal with this, then prepared to have the shit smashed out of you via their batons.
0:16 - "LEEEEEEROOOOOOOOY!".
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It's long, but of your into politics...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi/house_of_commons/newsid_9560000/9560078.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi/house_of_commons/newsid_9560000/9560078.stm)
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It's long, but of your into politics...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi/house_of_commons/newsid_9560000/9560078.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi/house_of_commons/newsid_9560000/9560078.stm)
Thanks for posting - watching it now.
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Now this is how you clean up the scumbags from your hood!
FC Millwall ( <3) fans, not only that they didn't allow the rioters to get into their part of south London, but also they chased them away back where they came from.
Civil War in London! Millwall vs the rioters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64OI6dVM9uU#)
(http://i.imgur.com/QCeac.jpg)
This is a picture of Millwall fans, in front of their main pub, guarding and protecting their neighborhood, they organized night patrols, in case the rioters try sneaking during the night. Local patriotism above all.
Respect.
These guys should be awarded medals. :lol:
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If they just shot a few of the rioters the bastards would stop...
Actually that would cause literally everyone to riot. Why the hell would you shoot a teenager just for being stupid? Rubber bullets I get, yes, but why the hell would you try to kill them? Control your anger there pal. No one should die as a result of this.
Sometimes I just wanna go there, get equipment from the riot police or whatever those MP are and just HELP them!
I'm totally with you. I'm from the U.S. and even I hate sitting by watching this happen. I wish there was something I could do to help.
These guys should be awarded medals.
Agreed. It's amazing how other citizens have recently stood up against rioters to assist police, including that one video of them marching alongside officers to help them fight the rioters in larger numbers. That was truly amazing, and pretty much unheard of in today's world. The only other time I've seen someone respect officers that much to fight alongside them for a noble cause was in a Robocop movie when everyone was Deputized...and that's a movie ffs. Out of all that bad that has come of these incidents, hopefully some good can rise from it's ashes too.
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So much respect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6p4itkdLi8&feature=player_embedded#at=22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6p4itkdLi8&feature=player_embedded#at=22)
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So much respect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6p4itkdLi8&feature=player_embedded#at=22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6p4itkdLi8&feature=player_embedded#at=22)
its funny because normally i go to the UK at this time of year, but i went at the beginning of June instead. Had i been there at this time as i usually am i would have joined these guys.
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Britain is a riot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pAC0YSmK0g#ws)
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Britain is a riot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pAC0YSmK0g#ws)
How have I not discovered this guy before? What an absolute legend. Speaks so much truth it's almost spilling out of him.
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Britain is a riot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pAC0YSmK0g#ws)
Yes!!!
Perfectly said!!!
That sums up everything about these riots in a nutshell. Amazing video! Kudos to you for finding that!
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Oh boy I have, I have been subscribed since his Goodbye Sweeden Video.
His is a legend.
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Here's a video I found on YouTube one guy filmed everything you see .... shocking that people are going round and wrecking people's buisness's, homes, cars and worst of all their own community. I hope anyone caught is given a heavy jail sentence and fined atleast 1000 pound +.
Fucking disgrace.
LONDON RIOTS: Horrific scenes the media didn't show last night! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed0QJJL9sYQ#ws)
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Scum, each and every one of them. I hope justice comes down upon them swift and hard - no fucking exception, no human rights, nothing. F**k the lot of them.
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Scum, each and every one of them. I hope justice comes down upon them swift and hard - no f**king exception, no human rights, nothing. F**k the lot of them.
Calm down man. No human rights is a bit excessive. Yes, they are ruining people's lives, but with the exception of a select few who will already be caught and serve their punishments for murder, these kids are not out to kill...just terrorize and take advantage of the moment for personal gain.
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Britain is a riot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pAC0YSmK0g#ws)
This is great.
Everyone watch it.
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This is great.
Everyone watch it.
I've watched a number of his videos now. He's brilliant and cracks me up with some of his comments.
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Yea I subscribed to his channel, which is saying something because I basically never do that.
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I hope all the firms in England goes against the youths and set a stop by this, since it seems that the police havn't reacted so good yet.
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I'm glad my visit to england was completed before this riot started..
I lost the link.. but just came across a movie of two 12 year olds stealing a playstation..
Rubber bullets...? :devroll:
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I hope all the firms in England goes against the youths and set a stop by this, since it seems that the police havn't reacted so good yet.
Because they have insufficient numbers and aren't being granted the necessary equipment to deal with this situation swiftly and efficiently.
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I hope all the firms in England goes against the youths and set a stop by this, since it seems that the police havn't reacted so good yet.
They couldn't even if they wanted to. Those poor officers have nothing to combat these teenagers. They aren't legally allowed to attack back, and to defend themselves, all they have is a very small circular shield and a nightstick that is smaller than my TV remote. The fact that the Prime Minister is JUST NOW authorizing Water Cannon use is absolutely ridiculous. It should've been authorized the moment the riots began, and if anything, mobilized as soon as a riot was even believed to be forming.
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One thing that I admire is that the people actually gathers and start their neighbourhood protection. Who will not protect their homes? I would, even if it means I would go over the law abit.
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They couldn't even if they wanted to. Those poor officers have nothing to combat these teenagers. They aren't legally allowed to attack back, and to defend themselves, all they have is a very small circular shield and a nightstick that is smaller than my TV remote. The fact that the Prime Minister is JUST NOW authorizing Water Cannon use is absolutely ridiculous. It should've been authorized the moment the riots began, and if anything, mobilized as soon as a riot was even believed to be forming.
That's a pretty big TV remote you've got there.
But yeah, I too find it quite aggrivating that only now are the government doing anything. The police have been stretching their resources and power for the last week or so, and only now do the government decide to provide support as if they've been there the entire time.
One thing that I admire is that the people actually gathers and start their neighbourhood protection. Who will not protect their homes? I would, even if it means I would go over the law abit.
Me and my nearby community gathered and made plans to defend our town after reports that the riot could spread to us. Thankfully nothing major happened, and everything calmed down relatively quick.
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That's a pretty big TV remote you've got there.
I figured someone would make a joke hahaha...
Seriously though, those nightsticks they have are extremely small. Even a wireless microphone that you see used by most bands at concerts worldwide looks huge compared to those things, to give a general idea. Cops in the U.S. have extendable ones that fold up, and even they are bigger folded up than the ones the U.K. cops have. It's ridiculous...they don't have the correct tools to even protect themselves. It's no wonder so many officers have been injured so far.
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The fact that the Prime Minister is JUST NOW authorizing Water Cannon use is absolutely ridiculous. It should've been authorized the moment the riots began, and if anything, mobilized as soon as a riot was even believed to be forming.
The police don't need any kind of political authorization to use rubber bullets, and I don't think they need it for the water cannon either. They were available options to the police force from the start and the decision to not use them was made by the police force.
Also, if they were to be that aggressive (these kind of measures are unheard of) that early on, then many police officers would probably lose their jobs over claims of police brutality.
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The police don't need any kind of political authorization to use rubber bullets, and I don't think they need it for the water cannon either. They were available options to the police force from the start and the decision to not use them was made by the police force.
Not true. The Prime Minister himself stated that in the beginning, it was not authorized because he thought it was excessive force and was unneeded, which in my opinion is ****ing ******ed given that it should've been the first thing they used after the body-barriers of cops couldn't push the rioters back.
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The BBC has stated on multiple occasions that the police do not need authorization to equip themselves with rubber bullets, but I can't find any quality sources to prove it one way or another.
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The BBC has stated on multiple occasions that the police do not need authorization to equip themselves with rubber bullets, but I can't find any quality sources to prove it one way or another.
From what I'm hearing, they needed authorization to even access any basic riot gear aside from uniforms. It's no wonder they can't react. If we are getting conflicting information, imagine how confused they must be.
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I dunno where they got it from then, if they needed authorization for that, since both the PM and the Mayor of London weren't even in the country for the first few days of rioting.
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Calm down man. No human rights is a bit excessive.
He shouldn't really be calm... the countries been fucked over. It's not just about now - it's about the future - 2012 Olympics.
And No Human Rights is what is happening to those caught;
Yesterday I was talking to 5-6 Police Officers over the rioting they had been too and they all said that regardless of what age they are, the criminals are being kept in for longer than the time normally allowed and they are tracking people down via the social networks very quickly.
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He shouldn't really be calm... the countries been f**ked over.
Precisely. If people want to act like complete and utter animals, then we shall comply and disregard their human rights. Seems completely fair to me.
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He shouldn't really be calm... the countries been f**ked over. It's not just about now - it's about the future - 2012 Olympics.
And No Human Rights is what is happening to those caught;
Yesterday I was talking to 5-6 Police Officers over the rioting they had been too and they all said that regardless of what age they are, the criminals are being kept in for longer than the time normally allowed and they are tracking people down via the social networks very quickly.
If it's happening or not, it still shouldn't happen to begin with. You are born with human rights that should never be taken away. No matter what your crime is, these still have to be followed and respected. If people don't, others around them won't either, and then we just have people mass-murdering each other.
Precisely. If people want to act like complete and utter animals, then we shall comply and disregard their human rights. Seems completely fair to me.
That's like saying if they jump off a bridge, it's only fair if you do it too. People make mistakes. It's what makes us human. The point of punishments is if we learn from the mistakes. If we just beat and torture each other for it, we learn nothing but hate towards those who punished us, thus making the bad cycle worse.
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That's like saying if they jump off a bridge, it's only fair if you do it too. People make mistakes. It's what makes us human. The point of punishments is if we learn from the mistakes. If we just beat and torture each other for it, we learn nothing but hate towards those who punished us, thus making the bad cycle worse.
People have also a lot of other qualities that makes them human and they should use. One for example is learning from observation. If you know that headshot kills a lot of people and you still think that you should test it on yourself, well good riddance.
If a person knows that looting,robbery, marauding and theft is punishable and he still does it - he should be in jail and taken away his human right of freedom.
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People have also a lot of other qualities that makes them human and they should use. One for example is learning from observation. If you know that headshot kills a lot of people and you still think that you should test it on yourself, well good riddance.
If a person knows that looting,robbery, marauding and theft is punishable and he still does it - he should be in jail and taken away his human right of freedom.
Well, knowing something is wrong, and learning from your mistakes by realizing it was wrong, can sometimes be two different things.
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Well, knowing something is wrong, and learning from your mistakes by realizing it was wrong, can sometimes be two different things.
How can people not realise that looting and effectively destroying a city is wrong? They know exactly what they're doing and they know the consequences, yet the continue to do so. I stand by my earlier comment that, if caught, they should be dealt the full force of the law with their human rights being stripped - completely.
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How can people not realise that looting and effectively destroying a city is wrong? They know exactly what they're doing and they know the consequences, yet the continue to do so. I stand by my earlier comment that, if caught, they should be dealt the full force of the law with their human rights being stripped - completely.
Common sense isn't always common sense, so to speak. Some people are just right out dumb when it comes to things they should have common sense of.
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Common sense isn't always common sense, so to speak. Some people are just right out dumb when it comes to things they should have common sense of.
Unless someone is LITERALLY mentally disabled, then they will be aware that such actions are wrong - unjustifiably wrong, for that matter.
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Unless someone is LITERALLY mentally disabled, then they will be aware that such actions are wrong - unjustifiably wrong, for that matter.
Even common sense has to be taught. No one is born with knowledge of anything. Everything they know comes from what they learn and experience throughout their life.
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Even common sense has to be taught. No one is born with knowledge of anything. Everything they know comes from what they learn and experience throughout their life.
Living in London, you will learn that these kind of incidents are completely wrong. You may be brought up with an attitude of "Fuck da police" and what not, but you'll still be fully aware that your beliefs and attitude are against the law. With this is mind, anyone caught doing it should
be dealt the full force of the law with their human rights being stripped - completely.
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Living in London, you will learn that these kind of incidents are completely wrong. You may be brought up with an attitude of "f**k da police" and what not, but you'll still be fully aware that your beliefs and attitude are against the law. With this is mind, anyone caught doing it should <insert quote here>
That applies to every place in the world, but it doesn't always mean people understand what they know, or even care to understand or realize it.
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That applies to every place in the world, but it doesn't always mean people understand what they know, or even care to understand or realize it.
Well if they're that stupid to even realise that, then they offer nothing to society, will never be able to apply, let alone get a job, and therefore I do not care for them - they may as well go to jail.
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Well if they're that stupid to even realise that, then they offer nothing to society, will never be able to apply, let alone get a job, and therefore I do not care for them - they may as well go to jail.
Not necessarily. Many times they just need a push to be shown their mistakes so they can realize their wrongs, and some encouragement into the right direction.
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Not necessarily. Many times they just need a push to be shown their mistakes so they can realize their wrongs, and some encouragement into the right direction.
That applies to every place in the world, but it doesn't always mean people understand what they know, or even care to understand or realize it.
You say it yourself they dont care nor realize what they are doing wrong so it is better to keep them in jail.
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You say it yourself they dont care nor realize what they are doing wrong so it is better to keep them in jail.
Punishing someone isn't the only way to teach them from their mistakes.
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looting and effectively destroying a city
LITERALLY mentally disabled
I wouldn't be surprised.
they should be dealt the full force of the law with their human rights being stripped - completely.
This.
Also Manchester and Salford is looking into evicting those involved in the riots, and the petition to remove benefits from those convicted in the riots is at 153,166 signatures (as of this post) and thus has been sent to parliament.
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Well with the governments new petition website, you are required to get 100,000 signatures for one to be discussed in the House of Parliament, and, to date, this (http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337) is the only one which has made the requirement.
No benefits for the people who did this is a great idea.
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Well with the governments new petition website, you are required to get 100,000 signatures for one to be discussed in the House of Parliament, and, to date, this (http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337) is the only one which has made the requirement.
No benefits for the people who did this is a great idea.
I remember Panda linking that petition, and it having only around 30,000 signatures by the time I signed it. Now it has over 200,000 - I really hope this passes.
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So how's the situation in the UK now? The newspapers here in Sweden dropped the subject and threw it into the trashcan.
I am still curious if some riots are going on.
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So how's the situation in the UK now? The newspapers here in Sweden dropped the subject and threw it into the trashcan.
I am still curious if some riots are going on.
It seems it may be over. I remember reading recently that August 10th didn't hail any riots because of rain and excessive police presence which made the rioters stay at home. As for any news from BBC, this is all I could find, which quietly quotes August 9th as the last day riots took place in several locations in it's statements regarding other things, although it doesn't say that specifically.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14601604 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14601604)