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Title: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Frank_Hawk on August 19, 2011, 07:36:21 pm
The most controversial SA:MP question remains yet to be answered:

GTA - San Andreas - The Introduction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_ZGQkq4m18#ws)

GTA San Andreas Mission #27 - The Green Sabre (HD) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dY6RMkB41U#ws)

Who killed CJ's mom?
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Storm_McCol on August 19, 2011, 07:36:48 pm
you
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: JayL on August 19, 2011, 07:43:04 pm
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/Stalin_1945.jpg)

This man.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: BKP on August 19, 2011, 07:45:03 pm
She got hit by a flying DPD Ranger
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Jellyfish on August 19, 2011, 07:52:39 pm
Balla's?
Took a green sabre to blend in the hood,got help from the Big Smoke and killed her.

Nuff' Said.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: kun4L on August 19, 2011, 07:54:42 pm
There is one more question who is doing the investigation :rofl:
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Comrade on August 19, 2011, 09:20:06 pm
Oh god not this again.
She got killed by a bad twinkie, okay?
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: newton_alex on August 19, 2011, 09:22:45 pm
CJ's mother was killed by Ballas sent by Tenpenny.They were suppose to shoot Sweet,but he wasn't home,and they shot his mother instead.Both Smoke and Ryder knew about the plan,so they were just as guilty as Tenpenny and the Ballas.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: XSniper on August 19, 2011, 09:41:16 pm
she fainted from the smell of ballas, and never woke up.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: SugarD on August 19, 2011, 10:25:05 pm
A Balla's stray bullets hit her, as seen by the green Sabre driving by. If you mean who was behind the attack, that's a totally different question ;)
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Squeak on August 19, 2011, 11:45:44 pm
(http://media.gtanet.com/gtasa/images/characters/ryder.jpg) Some people say they saw a green Sabre doin' the work, then speedin' away.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Rusty on August 20, 2011, 12:42:26 am
The most controversial SA:MP question remains yet to be answered:

Even though it has nothing to do with SA:MP as it's apart of the singleplayer story.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Norrage on August 20, 2011, 12:57:46 am
I killed her.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: SugarD on August 20, 2011, 12:59:55 am
No, you don't have to take the fall Twenty...I'll admit it...my mom did it...lol :P
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Karmps. on August 20, 2011, 01:02:14 am
(http://media.gtanet.com/gtasa/images/characters/ryder.jpg) Some people say they saw a green Sabre doin' the work, then speedin' away.
win
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: MyleS on August 20, 2011, 03:00:45 am
CJ's Moms Murder "the truth" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQtANrqZIR0#)
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: saberman on August 20, 2011, 03:22:24 pm
For the last time guys. I DID NOT KILL CJ'S MOM.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Leroy on August 20, 2011, 03:34:23 pm
I killed her.

Theory, CJ's mom wasn't drive-by'd but actually driven on by Twenty, till death.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Smith on August 20, 2011, 03:42:12 pm
Theory, CJ's mom wasn't drive-by'd but actually driven on by Twenty, till death.

Or, Twenty was being so reckless and he putted ''the thing'' into a wrong hole... And she died.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Gandalf on August 20, 2011, 03:54:25 pm
Has anyone ever seen the body ? If not then are you sure she was killed .....
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: TheRock on August 20, 2011, 03:57:17 pm
Has anyone ever seen the body ? If not then are you sure she was killed .....

First mission is in the LS cemetery.. CJ and the rest gathered around the grave of her!
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Danny_Leo on August 20, 2011, 04:08:32 pm
Some NBA guys took a Green Sabre for a ride to Grove Street they acctualy meant to kill Sweet but he was in other house so CJ's mom got killed in the DB bcz of the failure of these 3 balla dudes ;)
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Gandalf on August 20, 2011, 04:16:13 pm
First mission is in the LS cemetery.. CJ and the rest gathered around the grave of her!
A grave is not a body. We have no concrete evidence that she dies, let alone that she was killed.
In GTA:V we may find that she is alive and well, working as manager of a strip club in Vice city owned by Mercedes....
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Murt on August 20, 2011, 04:46:33 pm
Frank Hawk ate her  :lol:
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Rick. on August 20, 2011, 05:14:13 pm
CJ's Moms Murder "the truth" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQtANrqZIR0#)

This.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Frank_Hawk on August 20, 2011, 05:47:52 pm
Who pulled the trigger in the green Sabre?
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: SugarD on August 20, 2011, 09:37:59 pm
A grave is not a body. We have no concrete evidence that she dies, let alone that she was killed.
In GTA:V we may find that she is alive and well, working as manager of a strip club in Vice city owned by Mercedes....
LOL...I love the way your mind works Gandy!
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Squeak on August 20, 2011, 10:08:26 pm
A grave is not a body. We have no concrete evidence that she dies, let alone that she was killed.
In GTA:V we may find that she is alive and well, working as manager of a strip club in Vice city owned by Mercedes....
Kendl and Sweet both run into the Johnson house in The Introduction and start crying. She's dead.
>2011
>Believing Beverly Johnson is alive.
>ISHYGDDT.


(http://media.gtanet.com/gtasa/images/characters/sweet-johnson.jpg) That's another funeral you ran away from, nigga. Just like Brian's. Peep this running man, Tony's buried over there, Lil Devil over there, BIG Devil over there! Shit's all f**ked up. People blast on fools first, ask questions second.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: SugarD on August 20, 2011, 10:10:35 pm
How can you be so sure tho? For all you know it could've been a set-up the entire time. Someone posing at their mom could've got shot in the face (or even staged it) so the person wasn't recognizable, and they just assumed it was her ;)
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Squeak on August 20, 2011, 10:13:30 pm
How can you be so sure tho? For all you know it could've been a set-up the entire time. Someone posing at their mom could've got shot in the face (or even staged it) so the person wasn't recognizable, and they just assumed it was her ;)
>2011
>Believing conspiracy theories about a 7-year old game.
(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/277095_147828788628822_8094165_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: SugarD on August 20, 2011, 10:17:34 pm
>2011
>Believing conspiracy theories about a 7-year old game.
(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/277095_147828788628822_8094165_n.jpg)
I see. You troll me for expanding upon the Server Owner's idea, but you're too afraid to troll him, right? Contribute something useful to the discussion or don't bother posting.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Squeak on August 20, 2011, 10:19:29 pm
I see. You troll me for expanding upon the Server Owner's idea, but you're too afraid to troll him, right? Contribute something useful to the discussion or don't bother posting.
Didn't troll, just pointed out it was stupid to delve deeper into a 7-year old game's already explained plot. I also pointed that out to Gandalf by pointing out that
Kendl and Sweet both run into the Johnson house in The Introduction and start crying. She's dead.



The green Sabre was manned by two Ballas, who were sent by Smoke to take out Sweet. By taking out Sweet, Big Smoke could assume control of GSF with Ryder and they could both profit in the cocaine business. It just so happened that Sweet wasn't home at the time of the attack.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: SugarD on August 20, 2011, 10:24:10 pm
Didn't troll, just pointed out it was stupid to delve deeper into a 7-year old game's already explained plot. I also pointed that out to Gandalf by pointing out that
So it's stupid to assume something about a GTA game in which half the entire series' story-line forces you to do just that with all the mysteries it leaves unexplained? Just because someone was crying doesn't prove anything. In the opening intro to GTA III, Claude was shot and Catalina believed he was dead, but he ended up making a full recovery, only to kill her in the end. Also in GTA III, Donald Love mysteriously disappeared one day and no one had heard from him since. It's assumed he fled town due to threats on his life, or if the beta had continued Darkel's missions, that he was killed in a terrorist attack, but R* does not explain this either way, as well.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Squeak on August 20, 2011, 10:32:06 pm
So it's stupid to assume something about a GTA game in which half the entire series' story-line forces you to do just that with all the mysteries it leaves unexplained? Just because someone was crying doesn't prove anything.
There are no mysteries in GTA:SA. Sweet says she's dead, he saw her first. Smoke says she's dead, Ryder says she's dead, CJ says she's dead, Tenpenny and Pulaski say she's dead, Kendl says she's dead, Cesar says she's dead and Toreno says she's dead. To say she's not dead is saying the entire story of GTA:SA is based on one big lie, and that's fucking stupid.


(http://media.gtanet.com/gtasa/images/characters/smoke.jpg) Like it says in the book, same things make us laugh, make us cry.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: SugarD on August 20, 2011, 10:37:05 pm
Sweet just stopped his sister when he saw someone dead. He never actually walked in to see if it was her. CJ wasn't in town when it happened, hence why he came back to Los Santos. Anyone else saying she was dead would just purely be from being told by Sweet or his sister. Saying GTA:SA's story is based on one big lie isn't necessarily true. Even if it wasn't his mom in the end, the story would still play out the same way because they all believed it was her. In fact, if she popped up somewhere else alive after those events, it would continue the story more than anything else.

Quote
There are no mysteries in GTA:SA.
There are many, many mysteries in every GTA game. That's what links them all together when the story-lines cross each other.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Squeak on August 20, 2011, 10:40:42 pm
Sweet just stopped his sister when he saw someone dead. He never actually walked in to see if it was her. CJ wasn't in town when it happened, hence why he came back to Los Santos. Anyone else saying she was dead would just purely be from being told by Sweet or his sister. Saying GTA:SA's story is based on one big lie isn't necessarily true. Even if it wasn't his mom in the end, the story would still play out the same way because they all believed it was her. In fact, if she popped up somewhere else alive after those events, it would continue the story more than anything else.
No, she's dead.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: SugarD on August 20, 2011, 10:43:46 pm
No, she's dead.
And that is your opinion. That is fine. My opinion is that it could go either way.

No matter which way we look at it though, we already know who pulled the trigger. It was fairly obvious in the first video lol
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Halogenn on August 20, 2011, 11:34:43 pm
I f**king love to see the 2 or more pages in more than 50% of the forum's topics with Sugar and somebody else having a fight or arguing over a stupid thing making the whole subject go off-topic...
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Frank_Hawk on August 20, 2011, 11:50:10 pm
There was a huge stand off between the Police and Grove Street over the unexplained death of CJ's mom. As a result, the FBI reportedly claimed that there are ongoing investigations into whether the relatively unknown Big Foot played a part in CJ's mom death:

GTA San Andreas Bigfoot:The truth (4 million!!!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3bWr36MzH8#)
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: EliteTerm on August 20, 2011, 11:52:18 pm
I think it's a government conspiracy.

Maybe Mike Toreno had CJ's mom killed so that CJ comes home from Liberty City. Then Toreno called in the police and ambush Sweet to be taken to jail and manipulate CJ into doing his dirty work.

Truth was right about the Government! :lol:
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: SugarD on August 20, 2011, 11:59:24 pm
I think it's a government conspiracy.

Maybe Mike Toreno had CJ's mom killed so that CJ comes home from Liberty City. Then Toreno called in the police and ambush Sweet to be taken to jail and manipulate CJ into doing his dirty work.

Truth was right about the Government! :lol:
Watch, I bet Mike Toreno hired one of the surviving Forelli Brothers to dress up in that Bigfoot costume to kill CJ and have the conspiracy confuse the FBI so they wouldn't look into it. Too bad CJ kicked his butt!
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Frank_Hawk on August 21, 2011, 12:04:28 am
We all know Tenpenny was voiced by Samuel L Jackson which brings me to the conclusion that this storyline is deeper than we actually thought. In the video below, you can see Tenpenny helping a white man bearing a sign saying 'I hate blacks' - in which case supports the fact that Tenpenny had a good reason to kill CJ's mom who innocently walked past moments before:

Die Hard with a Vengeance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwpfSkB8nls#ws)

Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Antonio. on August 21, 2011, 12:12:10 am
Sweet just stopped his sister when he saw someone dead. He never actually walked in to see if it was her. CJ wasn't in town when it happened, hence why he came back to Los Santos. Anyone else saying she was dead would just purely be from being told by Sweet or his sister. Saying GTA:SA's story is based on one big lie isn't necessarily true. Even if it wasn't his mom in the end, the story would still play out the same way because they all believed it was her. In fact, if she popped up somewhere else alive after those events, it would continue the story more than anything else.
There are many, many mysteries in every GTA game. That's what links them all together when the story-lines cross each other.
Stop trolling. Why would the own son of the mother lie? Sweet runs in the house when the ballas shoot. He calls CJ and says "Yo it yo brotha, you betta come home. It's mom's, she's dead bro."
TROLOLOLOL < Stop it

Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: SafetyMoose on August 21, 2011, 12:15:26 am
The introduction was created to introduce players to the major characters of the game before the game was release, CJs Mom is not a re-occurring character that actually presents themselves, so spending time creating said character in the introduction was not needed, the absence of an actual body creates a dramatic feel to the scene.. Many characters in the GTA Universe are talked about and never actually presented in the game, this does not mean they dont exist or actually died in the character commentary during cut scenes. For example, In The Lost and Damned expansion for GTA:IV, there are many Lost members who are not named since they are either in jail / or dead. Saying that the absence of a characters body after death = that character still being alive is a very bold conclusion to make.

Rockstar games has always been known for their storylines, and they always include little hints into the backstory of characters or of other things going on in the games universe. If CJs mom was alive, Im confident the Rockstar Developers and Writers would have written atleast a hint of that into the story at some point. The game has been out for 7 years and no one has found anything to suggest that shes alive. Every other easter egg or plot hint was discovered in a matter of months after the game was released.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: SugarD on August 21, 2011, 12:25:28 am
Stop trolling. Why would the own son of the mother lie? Sweet runs in the house when the ballas shoot. He calls CJ and says "Yo it yo brotha, you betta come home. It's mom's, she's dead bro."
TROLOLOLOL < Stop it
I'm not trolling. Read what Gandalf said. I'm going to ask you one last time to stop following me in the community and accusing me of trolling every time you see me. I'm sick of it. Leave me alone.

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The game has been out for 7 years and no one has found anything to suggest that shes alive.
That's because GTA:SA, not counting the "Stories" games, was the last game they released in that story-line universe. GTA IV and beyond are part of a completely separate universe, so we may never know for sure if many of the mysteries were to be answered.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Antonio. on August 21, 2011, 12:30:25 am
I'm not trolling. Read what Gandalf said. I'm going to ask you one last time to stop following me in the community and accusing me of trolling every time you see me. I'm sick of it. Leave me alone.

I accuse of it every time I see you doing it, and it's pretty obvious all the time. Stop trolling and I will not accuse of it.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: 9r2e5i3k on August 21, 2011, 12:54:01 am
I'm not trolling. [...]stop following me in the community and accusing me of trolling every time you see me. I'm sick of it. Leave me alone.
(http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/irony.jpg)
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Marcell on August 21, 2011, 01:05:08 am
Next to 'no religion topics' and 'no politic topics' we should make a rule 'no conspirancy topics' would save us some fucking time
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Ehks on August 21, 2011, 02:34:05 am
(http://i56.tinypic.com/10cqdyv.png)
.:Inter-Act:.
We will be looking into the death of Carl Johnson's mom also known as
Beverly Johnson / Ms.Johnson and will reveal the truth behind it.
You will hear from us soon!
( I hope everyone would accept/enjoy rping with us :D! )

Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Y2JFaN on August 21, 2011, 08:13:19 am
There is a difference from telling your opinion/critisizing someone and being an ass....


Anyway - I don't think they would make the storyline that deep. Its a GTA game where its known for shooting and driving, not deep in depth story.

Maybe use this as a motive to have a second San Andreas (as in who REALLY was the shooter).
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Antonio. on August 21, 2011, 08:37:57 am
I want GTA San Andreas Stories.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: 9r2e5i3k on August 21, 2011, 03:13:47 pm
GTA3 had a nice plot. Vice City had a nice plot. San Andreas had the most crappy and inconsistent plot I've ever seen in a game. They should have done a way better job, considering R* already made two GTA games on same engine with better plots, and could have made it non-linear (different endings, depending on actions).

It's already told in that GTA:SA Intro prequel movie. Who and why killed CJ's mom.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Leon. on August 22, 2011, 02:41:53 am
(http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/irony.jpg)
YOU MADE ME LAUGH LIKE A LITTLE GIRL
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Biggo2 on August 22, 2011, 02:58:24 am
She watched the tape.
She had 7 days.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Void on August 22, 2011, 04:27:26 am
She watched the tape.
She had 7 days.
This one.  :lol:
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: stormeus on August 22, 2011, 04:29:56 am
She watched the tape.
She had 7 days.
What if she copied the tape and gave it to someone else? :rules:
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: CaptainCrazy on August 22, 2011, 04:34:11 am
(http://i55.tinypic.com/10ymarr.png)

Him.

FBI bought CJ's mum's house after her death. Go ahead and check it if you don't believe me.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Playboy on August 23, 2011, 03:30:50 am
Fat ballas did.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Jingle on August 23, 2011, 01:50:06 pm
Oh, a Frank Hawk topic. How are you guys doing today?
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Playboy on August 23, 2011, 03:14:05 pm
Im fine, Thank you.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Agent_Smith on August 25, 2011, 08:42:21 am
What's this got to do with SA-MP?!

Wrong section, Admins/Moderators will lock this.

But to answer your qurstion, Justin Bibers singing!
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Squeak on August 25, 2011, 07:45:55 pm
What's this got to do with SA-MP?!

Wrong section, Admins/Moderators will lock this.

But to answer your qurstion, Justin Bibers singing!
Not sure if serious...
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Jingle on August 25, 2011, 08:10:42 pm
What's this got to do with SA-MP?!

Wrong section, Admins/Moderators will lock this.

But to answer your qurstion, Justin Bibers singing!
His qurstion [sic] was about the person responsible of the murder of Carl Johnson's mum. The event happened in 2004 and Justin Bieber was not famous at the time, therefore your irrelephant statement surely looks like a joke. If you're not kidding, you're kidding.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: XSniper on August 25, 2011, 08:12:00 pm
What's this got to do with SA-MP?!

Wrong section, Admins/Moderators will lock this.

But to answer your qurstion, Justin Bibers singing!

go troll somewhere else.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: iDavid on August 25, 2011, 11:10:07 pm
His qurstion [sic] was about the person responsible of the murder of Carl Johnson's mum. The event happened in 2004 and Justin Bieber was not famous at the time, therefore your irrelephant statement surely looks like a joke. If you're not kidding, you're kidding.
The event happened late in 1992 :) Which basically means, Justin Bieber didn't exist, and thank god for that.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Leon. on August 27, 2011, 04:54:41 pm
The event happened late in 1992 :) Which basically means, Justin Bieber didn't exist, and thank god for that.
It actually happened in 2004. They just said in happened in 1992. Wanna fight about it?
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: BKP on August 27, 2011, 05:03:43 pm
The game was released in 2004 but the events of San Andreas happened in the late 1992 when CJ returned from Liberty City..
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: 9r2e5i3k on August 27, 2011, 05:50:58 pm
It actually happened in 2004. They just said in happened in 1992. Wanna fight about it?
It also re-happened when I started the single player game yesterday (2011). Time paradox or zombie moms?
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Fuzzy on August 27, 2011, 06:25:33 pm
She watched the tape.
She had 7 days.
1) Watch tape again in sixth day
2) Have another 7 days to live
3) Repeat these steps
4) Live forever
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: R.Rivens on August 27, 2011, 06:46:09 pm
Does it matters?
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Leon. on August 28, 2011, 05:03:02 pm
SEVEN DAYS.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Link9rly on August 30, 2011, 10:21:05 am
(http://i56.tinypic.com/34e2i3b.jpg)Ay Cesar, the yay is leaving San Fierro right?
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Morphine on August 30, 2011, 11:27:30 am
(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7381/cesarvialpando0rs.jpg)Right. But they're usin' bikes, CJ! They go cross country!



I don't know why but for some reason, I think that Tenpenny was trying to help Carl in a way.
Title: Re: Who killed CJ's mom?
Post by: Thomson on August 30, 2011, 06:45:03 pm
Guys ... case solved


CJ's mom is still alive , it was all bs , she's working as hooker now.


PROOF:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VHFLUEaW4Y
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