Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:VC => VC:MP General => VC:MP - Vice City Multiplayer => VC:MP Ideas => Topic started by: freestyle_Shadow on August 30, 2011, 08:06:00 am
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Well I got some ideas that I would like to share with you (:.
First of all is for S.W.A.T and A.R.P.D Cops
- I wish cops could get a python instead of colt all the time or maybe just in a special protocol...
- S.W.A.T Should get UZI instead of MP5, Cause its a rapid-fire gun and its one of the most unused weapons in the whole MP. In Single-Player, S.W.A.T uses UZI. It looks better than mp5 when chasing a suspect
Second:
I guess Ocean-Beach apartment and other properties should be able to be rent/share. So, If I buy a property, I wish I could share with Thomas_Mira or [WS]Unleashed.. Altough, why not renting a room for 3-4 days than buying it? Of course with other prices. You may not find the point of it but it is good as it improves a bit of "Roleplay Experience".
- As we will share, and the same abilities of Skin-Changing for both of us/them.
Third:
I guess this is not good, but, Officers should be able to taze when suspect got lower than 30hp and is runing or something like this ( It would bring an Un-Fair advantage to cops ) but criminals should also have some dodgers for emp or something that may block Stealth Devices. To make it equal.
Thanks for reading and commenting.
Shadow.
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1. The handgun is a little iffy depending on power, but the SWAT thing I can see as useful.
2. If scripters are willing, I don't see why not. It was proposed in SA:MP years ago and people liked it, but scripting abilities at the time prevented it.
3. Unless you can find a way to make it fair for criminals, this will likely be denied. It's been proposed on the other Argo servers many times, and the issue with it is it would create an unfair advantage for Police, and even giving the Criminals something in return would only give THEM another advantage instead of balancing the current issue. If you can think of a fair way to balance this, though, you never know...it may one day get accepted then!
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First of all: I'll have to say "no" to the python and SWAT thingy. Because, Python is mostly used by Dedctives. I suggest ARPD to add a Dedctive Class.
And about SWAT. I've watched a progrem about SWAT. Here's it's updated Armoury:
1. PSD 6.8 [Can work as M4 in VC]
2. Banelly M4 [Can work as Spaz in VC]
3. Remington 700 [Can work as Sniper in VC]
4. And the flash Grenade [Can work as Smoke Gernade in VC]
Anyways it's booN
Second: Yeah, sharing and renting will be very useful, because of the big domain from players to buy Propties.
Third: How can we get a Tazer in VC? We can only RP it.
P.S: Sorry for my bad Spelling, still working on it, lol.
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@Zerox2 on the SWAT thing, that is the general standard of weaponry, but it can also vary by state and Department/Agency.
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I think we did replace the colt with python before, however it wasn't practical as the colt allows for more movement while firing which comes in more handy as cop. About replacing the MP5 with UZI for SWAT I see no problem in. They both are very alike although I would say the MP5 is slightly better.
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@Zerox2 on the SWAT thing, that is the general standard of weaponry, but it can also vary by state and Department/Agency.
Well yeah I know now.
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Well yeah I know now.
No worries man, not attacking your post. Just figured I should add that in there. :)
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1. Python instead of Colt: Python has same power as shotgun except for the lack of knock-down. It would be rather not-really-useful, since it's very slow. However I already wrote in my 'How ARPD armoury should work in criminal's eyes' topic, that VCPD officers should have option to choose Python instead of Colt 1911A1. Colt should be used to pierce tires and finish off low HP criminals, you don't need a Python when you have a Shotgun, unless for roleplaying or as backup weapon when you run out of Shotgun ammo.
2. Why should SWAT get Uzi instead of MP5? First of all it's not realistic, second, why INSTEAD? Maybe make a new gear. Incase you don't know, MP5 does same damage as ruger and has better rate of fire, it's like Ruger combined with M4 rate of fire with no headshot ability.. thus it's alot more useful if you know how to use it.
3. That script is already in works if I'm not mistaken.
In short the weapon suggestion ideas should be written in my 'how ARPD armoury should work in criminals eyes' topic, you might have not noticed it due to fact most of people were still angry due to SRU deletion by then :lol:
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1. Python instead of Colt: Python has same power as shotgun except for the lack of knock-down. It would be rather not-really-useful, since it's very slow. However I already wrote in my 'How ARPD armoury should work in criminal's eyes' topic, that VCPD officers should have option to choose Python instead of Colt 1911A1. Colt should be used to pierce tires and finish off low HP criminals, you don't need a Python when you have a Shotgun, unless for roleplaying or as backup weapon when you run out of Shotgun ammo.
2. Why should SWAT get Uzi instead of MP5? First of all it's not realistic, second, why INSTEAD? Maybe make a new gear. Incase you don't know, MP5 does same damage as ruger and has better rate of fire, it's like Ruger combined with M4 rate of fire with no headshot ability.. thus it's alot more useful if you know how to use it.
3. That script is already in works if I'm not mistaken.
In short the weapon suggestion ideas should be written in my 'how ARPD armoury should work in criminals eyes' topic, you might have not noticed it due to fact most of people were still angry due to SRU deletion by then :lol:
Our weapons export has said his stuff, he's totally right.
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Our weapons expert
:cool:
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Tazers will NOT be implemented. We'd either have to freeze the player or make them fall, which presents an unfair advantage in either side. Freezing allows the cops to rape them with shotgun, and falling makes the suspect invincible to falling.
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Tazers will NOT be implemented. We'd either have to freeze the player or make them fall, which presents an unfair advantage in either side. Freezing allows the cops to rape them with shotgun, and falling makes the suspect invincible to falling.
Tazers are totally retarded anyway, on any of RP servers I have played. First of all there is no chance to avoid them, second they can be used in combat. I remember my playthrough on one of polish RP servers - I was shooting at few cops entering a store I was robbing, and a kamikadze cop just ran up to me and tazzed me, taking shitload of damage. Tazers force people to roleplay as well - if a cop aims a gun at you and tells you to surrender you can try to escape (and die most likely), unlike tazer where it's totally forced. The only thing that should be forced is jail, since you choose to give up.
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Is there any model that could be used in VC:MP as an RP object for tazing via RP, similar to SA:MP? Then users could RP it if they choose to do so without forcing anyone to go along with it ;)
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Nope. Models can't be attached either.
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Let's get this straight then.
No Tazers, no Pythons, pure MP5s.
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Let's get this straight then.
No Tazers, no Pythons, pure MP5s.
Aka how it is now.
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Aka yes. UZI will bring cop casualties at an even higher rate.
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Make classes for SWAT? (If you don't have yet)
Maybe one with python + nades
One with stubby and mp5/uzi
One with colt and M60... :lol:
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We already have that with "gears." Gears 1-4 are balanced with weapons that are either long-range, short-range, or cover a large area. Gear 5 is BWAT (M60, Spaz, etc.)
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We already have that with "gears." Gears 1-4 are balanced with weapons that are either long-range, short-range, or cover a large area. Gear 5 is BWAT (M60, Spaz, etc.)
Can you speficy those ranks? I wouldn't bother making another useless account on ARPD forums :D
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Can you speficy those ranks? I wouldn't bother making another useless account on ARPD forums :D
That information isn't public, so it would likely be down to the Chief's discretion to release that information.
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S.W.A.T. uses a UZI in single player? Replay the game and its an MP5, not a UZI. Get those facts straight.
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S.W.A.T. uses a UZI in single player? Replay the game and its an MP5, not a UZI. Get those facts straight.
There's no need to provoke.
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S.W.A.T. uses a UZI in single player? Replay the game and its an MP5, not a UZI. Get those facts straight.
Actually no, they really use Uzi SMG. Only FBI use the H&K MP5 as well as army, period
you're the one who needs to replay the game, guess you played too much IV..
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Actually no, they really use Uzi SMG. Only FBI use the H&K MP5 as well as army, period
you're the one who needs to replay the game, guess you played too much IV..
Hey, cool it you two. There's no reason to fight.
SWAT officers in GTA: Vice City wear dark blue clothing with a tactical vest and kneepads. They also have a blue helmet and a mask covering their face. SWAT Team members in GTA: Vice City wield the Uzi 9mm.
They carry MP5s in all of the GTA III era games except for Grand Theft Auto III, where this weapon is unavailable, and instead they carry AK-47s and pistols (when killed).
They will also set up roadblocks comprised of the Barracks OL with soldiers armed with M16's in GTA III, M4's (in Fort Baxter Air Base) and MP5's (during a 6-star wanted level), and M4 Carbines in every other GTA III Era game.
There, now quit fighting over it.
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Wasn't fighting, just stating the fact :L
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for the tazer thing we cud have a command as /c tazer shadow
and the person is frozen for about 10 secs and in that time u decide if u kill or arresst them
abit like EMP's i wud say
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for the tazer thing we cud have a command as /c tazer shadow
and the person is frozen for about 10 secs and in that time u decide if u kill or arresst them
abit like EMP's i wud say
Tazer that freezes is... Overpowered for cops against criminals.. There would be no chance for criminals to ever escape by running :(
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Tazer that freezes is... Overpowered for cops against criminals.. There would be no chance for criminals to ever escape by running :(
lets say u'd have 2 be in like punching distance of the criminal..xD
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lets say u'd have 2 be in like punching distance of the criminal..xD
Tazer, forced cuffing. No, no, no f**king no.
A guy with ping of 500 can run up to you while you spam M60 and cuff/taze you. Or if you're bugged to a cop, he can do the same and say that he's lagging, and you weren't bugged to him.
And last but not least, it forces you to roleplay. Actually it doesn't - since it isn't even roleplay if it's forced against your person while you don't react.
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Tazer, forced cuffing. No, no, no f**king no.
A guy with ping of 500 can run up to you while you spam M60 and cuff/taze you. Or if you're bugged to a cop, he can do the same and say that he's lagging, and you weren't bugged to him.
And last but not least, it forces you to roleplay. Actually it doesn't - since it isn't even roleplay if it's forced against your person while you don't react.
loool..just coz ur wanted all the time :P...
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If VC would be a next-gen game with epic scripting possibilities, I wouldn't mind to make a forced cuffing if you could fight back. The problem is it would look way too arcade and non-sense making now, I mean if a cop would try and run up to me and cuff me, I'd bust his fucking nose with the stock of my shotgun. But it's not possible to script it in a way the suspects could fight back, so.... (would be kinda cool to have some kind of cutscene sequence - the guy who presses the keys faster and in right combination 'wins', if cop wins you get cuffed, if you win the cop gets knocked out) but it's still not a solution cause 1. its not scriptable 2. it still forces ppl to roleplay
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Agree with Marcell on this one, no tazers 'cos they give 1600% advantage to cops over criminals and they already have over 9000 lifes :lol:
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Agree with Marcell on this one, no tazers 'cos they give 1600% advantage to cops over criminals and they already have over 9000 lifes :lol:
:lol:
:war:
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Agree with Marcell on this one, no tazers 'cos they give 1600% advantage to cops over criminals and they already have over 9000 lifes :lol:
9000 lifes lol'd.
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A scripted tazer goes against the Argonath Vision and will never be scripted in any form.
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It would of been good if VC had a cuffing system like on The Warriors :D
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i aggree wid klaus..like SAMP if they sur they get cuffed..simple as :D