Typical Americans.. killing their own innocent people. Nonetheless, R.I.P to those innocent people.
Typical Americans.. killing their own innocent people. Nonetheless, R.I.P to those innocent people.
Thanks for proving your stupidity and posting something useless in a topic which is meant to give respect. Go put your complots somewhere in one of the other topics on the forums.
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Man is on his period. :trust:
This is indeed not the topic to be posting your bullshit. Please take this matter through inbox or simply do not post. You should know that.
Thanks for proving your stupidity and posting something useless in a topic which is meant to give respect. Go put your complots somewhere in one of the other topics on the forums.
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Fucking shit man, can we all just let it go? Yes, I understand it was almost 4,000 people, but when I think of 9/11... I think of the wars started afterwards where we lose 4,000+ more of our own kids (not even including injured) in Afghanistan and Iraq, not even to mention all the civilian casualties. I think this shit should be put to rest and not used to push a political campaign anymore.
corrupt, evil men. Such a shame.
****ing shit man, can we all just let it go? Yes, I understand it was almost 4,000 people, but when I think of 9/11... I think of the wars started afterwards where we lose 4,000+ more of our own kids (not even including injured) in Afghanistan and Iraq, not even to mention all the civilian casualties. I think this shit should be put to rest and not used to push a political campaign anymore.It will likely go heavily forgotten after this anniversary is over. At this point, it will be the last major anniversary of the events that people will be able to clearly remember.
Ten years ago when you took a flight inside the US it was like stepping on to a bus. No security gates, no taking shoes off or walking through scanners.I couldn't agree more with every statement you made there. This may have happened in the United States, but we are all human, and these events rocked the world to it's core, and brought a country to it's knees for a day, watching as innocent lives were taken from us, only for us to stupidly lash out at other innocent countries because of our government taking advantage of our want for revenge.
International flights were secured, but it was possible to carry a pocket knife in your hand luggage without being seen as potential terrorist. It was possible to make a joke with people on the ground or dress non-Western clothing without getting a crowd of security workers on your back.
The attacks have cost us a lot in personal freedom as in the 'war against terrorism' many laws were passed that allow the governments to invade our privacy, or that restrict us from formerly normal things while traveling.
The attack has not just cost the 3.000 victims on Ground Zero and connected sites, but it has cost a lot more from all of us, and we are still paying the consequences on a daily basis.
The attack succeeded in many more ways as those who planned it could imagine.
Humanity is a very strange and cruel race. I will never understand why we do the things we do, and I hope I never do. It's truly sickening sometimes...Most things we do are based on our primal instinct which is survival of ourselves and our relatives.
Most things we do are based on our primal instinct which is survival of ourselves and our relatives.That does make sense, but I still find it to be a ridiculous trait of our race. Other animals fight for survival, but they do not kill each other purely just to win an argument or prove a point. I mean I'm not going to defend my country here, because I will agree that the United States is beyond effed up in many ways, but killing innocent civilians is not the way to get a point across, as an act of war or otherwise. Hopefully one day our race will grow up and stop acting immature so it realizes it's mistakes before we bring an end to ourselves. At the rate every side of this incident is going, we're just going to end up killing all life on this planet before we know it's too late to save it. I just hope my generation and after don't follow down the same path of hatred and destruction...
As we are capable of intelligent and fast calculations, in a situation we take decisions to minimize the damage (at least those with the capability to make decisions do) to others, while accepting damage as inevitable.
When you play chess, there are several ways to play. Some will attempt to defeat the opponenet as fast as possible, others take joy in a methodical destruction. But when starting the game, both players are ready and willing to lose a majority of the pieces on the board, if victory can be claimed as a result.
Similarly people are prepared to let others die to reach their goals and claim victory, as we have seen many examples this year.
Adding to what Gandalf said, Bin Laden just didn't know down some buildings, invade some personal freedom, he was smarter than that. He knew exactly what this would do. He knew we'd waste billions if not trillions on their country throwing the US into debt. He knew the US would go bankrupt. Sadly enough, it became a reality.There are a lot of comments possible, but I do not want to offend the Americans here,......
However, it's fun to say I have more money than the US government :P
(obvious joke, don't get offended or whatever)
The attack succeeded in many more ways as those who planned it could imagine.I see what you did there
It will likely go heavily forgotten after this anniversary is over.Good, I hope I never hear or see "9/11" again as long as I live.
There are a lot of comments possible, but I do not want to offend the Americans here,......I know the feeling. I'm American and I'm disgusted with my own country. My personal views on the whole incident would likely start World War III here on the forums lol
Adding to what Gandalf said, Bin Laden just didn't know down some buildings, invade some personal freedom, he was smarter than that. He knew exactly what this would do. He knew we'd waste billions if not trillions on their country throwing the US into debt. He knew the US would go bankrupt. Sadly enough, it became a reality.
However, it's fun to say I have more money than the US government :P
(obvious joke, don't get offended or whatever)
Didn't the CIA train Bin Laden to be a spy during the war in Afghanistan during the 80's-90's when the Russians were there? The cold war as I believe it was. :poke:Yes. He used to be an "ally". Trust me when I say I don't believe he did it either.
Yes. He used to be an "ally". Trust me when I say I don't believe he did it either.
So not to offend any American, but the CIA can be blaimed for making him so good at hiding before he died. He was hided for a very long time. And I guess he was a real professional of what he did.That won't offend me. If you knew what I've seen, and what I believe happened, you'd be quite surprised at how much I hate my own country right now :P
But I can't say that's a thing to be proud of.
So not to offend any American, but the CIA can be blaimed for making him so good at hiding before he died. He was hidden for a very long time. And I guess he was a real professional of what he did.He was such a professional that when he heard a helicopter at night he put his head out of the window, and when someone tried to shoot him stayed in his room hiding behind his wife, without taking the gun that was standing next to his bed or trying to escape.
But I can't say that's a thing to be proud of.
Not only Osama Bin Laden, but a ''terrorist dictator'' like Saddam Hussein would also obviously hide in a dug-in-5-minutes hole with some dollars and that's it. LOL.And now there is Khadaffi who has removed his wig and sunglassess..
And now there is Khadaffi who has removed his wig and sunglassess..(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/Carlos_Santana_2.jpg/220px-Carlos_Santana_2.jpg)
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What scares me more there is Gene Simmons' creases on his forehead match General Gadafi's if you look carefully...
Some very suspicious shit.Likely a coincidence, but it's just a very creepy thing I noticed.
Likely a coincidence, but it's just a very creepy thing I noticed.
The attack had nothing to do with Muslims. This was just one masterpiece created by the high-ups and the mass-media in the States.
First of all, I'd like to say I'm sorry to every person that died in the attacks and to every family who lost their beloved ones just because of the plan to wipe off the Muslims. They didn't deserved that. No one did.If it makes you feel any better, and I am American, no matter my beliefs on 9/11, I wouldn't blame Muslims as a whole for what happened, or at all for that matter. The problem is in the United States, mainstream media and a serious lack of funding for education has caused the public to slowly decline in intelligence and common sense over the years, so they automatically believe what a "trusted" source tells them, and the second that happens, you get stereotypical prejudice. I'm not trying to trash on my own country here or anything, but if you look up our education compared to other countries, it's no where as good as most people believe. It's not the people's fault for that, it's over government's. They worry more about shoving money in their pockets and getting nice leather couches in their offices than they do about people's well-being. It's just sad...
Just want to drop something here about terrorism. As I live in Bosnia, where most people are muslims I know few things. I'm not an muslim, but most of my friends are, my family, etc. They always want to make peace, but people keep calling them terrorists. Hmm... Well, there are many theories. As you've seen, when Breivik bombed the building and killed teenagers at the island, he was called a criminal, but when Muslims do that, what are they called? Terrorists. I honestly have nothing against any other religion, but why aren't Christian bombers called terrorists? Simple. Muslims are one of the most growing religions in the world, and some people want to stop that. They want to wipe out the Islam and make their own order. Yes, Bin Laden is a terrorist, but let's be honest. We all know who helped him. So, after the 9/11 events, war started quickly. Don't get me wrong. I'm not blaming it all on the guys who worked the plan out, Al-Qaeda had it's fingers in it too. Maybe I'm wrong and maybe it's not true, but I don't like seeing all Muslims getting bashed for something they didn't even participate in. So, what do you people think about this?
Thousands of innocents from over 50 countries died, that is what we need to remember.
2,977 PeopleYou both pretty much summed up what I've been trying to get across to people for awhile, and thank you Aldo for the more detailed list. This is exactly why people ****ting on 9/11 pisses me off. American or otherwise, those were human beings. It has nothing to do with the fact that Americans died that causes me and others to mourn this, and surprisingly the actions SA:MP took out that day to memorialize it with me was incredible, and very respectful. The original ideas even came from a guy from the UK, and most of the people participating were not American. This alone is proof that humanity is capable of respect and seeing each other not as nationals from different countries, but as human beings who all should be respected equally. If every day were like that in this community, and all around the world, 9/11 never would've happened to begin with, and we would be much better off.
Over 90 Countries
Even after the towers fell 77 people have died as a result of the 9/11 dust
5000 rescue workers - impaired lung functions
1000 rescue workers - permanent respiratory disability
Many other recuse workers/volunteers have developed diseases/cancers etc due to the 9/11 dust
2,977 People
Over 90 Countries
Even after the towers fell 77 people have died as a result of the 9/11 dust
5000 rescue workers - impaired lung functions
1000 rescue workers - permanent respiratory disability
Many other recuse workers/volunteers have developed diseases/cancers etc due to the 9/11 dust
You both pretty much summed up what I've been trying to get across to people for awhile, and thank you Aldo for the more detailed list. This is exactly why people ****ting on 9/11 pisses me off. American or otherwise, those were human beings. It has nothing to do with the fact that Americans died that causes me and others to mourn this, and surprisingly the actions SA:MP took out that day to memorialize it with me was incredible, and very respectful. The original ideas even came from a guy from the UK, and most of the people participating were not American. This alone is proof that humanity is capable of respect and seeing each other not as nationals from different countries, but as human beings who all should be respected equally. If every day were like that in this community, and all around the world, 9/11 never would've happened to begin with, and we would be much better off.
You both pretty much summed up what I've been trying to get across to people for awhile, and thank you Aldo for the more detailed list. This is exactly why people ****ting on 9/11 pisses me off. American or otherwise, those were human beings. It has nothing to do with the fact that Americans died that causes me and others to mourn this, and surprisingly the actions SA:MP took out that day to memorialize it with me was incredible, and very respectful. The original ideas even came from a guy from the UK, and most of the people participating were not American. This alone is proof that humanity is capable of respect and seeing each other not as nationals from different countries, but as human beings who all should be respected equally. If every day were like that in this community, and all around the world, 9/11 never would've happened to begin with, and we would be much better off.Sugar is probably the Martin Luther King Jr. of his speeches. I'm shocked at how peaceful these conversations about 9/11 go in the Speakerbox compared to what's been happening on the VC:MP board lately.
2,977 PeopleThat's just another day of NATO bombing lead by USA around the world.
Over 90 Countries
Even after the towers fell 77 people have died as a result of the 9/11 dust
5000 rescue workers - impaired lung functions
1000 rescue workers - permanent respiratory disability
Many other recuse workers/volunteers have developed diseases/cancers etc due to the 9/11 dust
Sugar is probably the Martin Luther King Jr. of his speeches. I'm shocked at how peaceful these conversations about 9/11 go in the Speakerbox compared to what's been happening on the VC:MP board lately.Lol you'd be surprised. Gandalf had to step in once already to moderate a few of the 9/11 topics. I agree though, what happened in the VC:MP board was just sickening.
That's just another day of NATO bombing lead by USA around the world.What the hell are you talking about? NATO had nothing to do with 9/11. Quit trolling to piss people off.
That's just another day of NATO bombing lead by USA around the world.
I'm not saying that what happened that day is in any way justified or good, but I think that every innocent civilian that died in Afghanistan, Iraq or any other country the US (with help of NATO) invaded after it should be remembered as well.Although I agree that everyone should be equally recognized, this event and memorial day was focused on one specific tragedy, and as I've told people before, if they wish to memorialize others from tragedies, make a topic/event and I will gladly participate as well. No one should be left out in this, but attacking one event/memorial due to it's indirect effect on another is not right to do either.
For the shitfaced, those are people too, what the average person here would call few, they call a lot. Yet they have to suffer from destruction daily, that sometimes could be compared to the 9/11 attacks. They cannot be blamed that the US invaded their country. Heck, in most provinces in Afghanistan, 90% of the population doesn't even know why there is war at all!
What the hell are you talking about? NATO had nothing to do with 9/11. Quit trolling to piss people off.You're being ignorant . Neither have I said NATO has something to do it, neither was I trolling.
1) This topic is to discuss what happened 10 years ago on September 11th, 2001 In New York City
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Over 90 Countries
3) Remain on topic please
2) NATO Bombings
Gene Simmons is a Jew. JEWS DID 9/11?
Although I agree that everyone should be equally recognized, this event and memorial day was focused on one specific tragedy, and as I've told people before, if they wish to memorialize others from tragedies, make a topic/event and I will gladly participate as well. No one should be left out in this, but attacking one event/memorial due to it's indirect effect on another is not right to do either.