Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => San Andreas - Capital Building => SA:MP - Business & Government => SA Capital Building Archive => Topic started by: Comrade on September 12, 2011, 04:29:52 pm
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The current value of my hotel is 2,370,350 ARD which is unacceptable, because half the property is off limits!
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9460/gatesbad.png)
As you can clearly see by the carefully taken photograph, those two troublesome gates are blocking for quite a lot of free space - which sadly is included in the current value due to the fencing around the whole property.
I would kindly ask the government to either set down the base value of my property, OR completely remove the gates.
Personally I'm more in favor of the removal of the gates, as I'd like the free space to be used.
Signed, Comrey Ancelotti.
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The gates exist by default.. they were built together with the hotel, Gates were never property of the state.
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So there is no way to forcefully tear down said gates?
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So there is no way to forcefully tear down said gates?
Perhaps you should ask ARA about it once they get heavy equipment in a month or so
(Wait for 0.3d update and ask then)
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Those gates you are talking about are argonath server objects i think as they arent present on other servers...
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Removal will mean not only losing the gates but all of the wall surrounding it and most of the floor in the surrounding area.
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Are you entirely sure? Gates do not seem connected with the walls.
How about removing just one of the gates? Would that tear down the wall as well?
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I believe that Comrade should have the base price lowered for now as the walls can't be removed yet; and if he wishes for the walls to still be removed once the Government can remove these walls and fences (0.3d) then he the walls should be removed and the base price set to the original value! However if he at that point in time wishes for the base price to stay low then the walls and fences should stay
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Removal of gates not feasable in my eyes and for one reason which can be seen in the before and after images I've made below.
The red area is the area it selects which shows that it is all one object.
It's also object id 4000 lod version is 4080.
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I understand. I guess the walls stay, but I'd like to request at least 25% of the base value gone, as 50% of the property is potentially useless.
Once the ARA get their new tools in a couple of months, we'll see about the gates again.
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Ask if it is possible for a scripter to make them to open.
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It will not be possible as it's all one object. Gates can only be scripted if; The area itself does not have a gate object. If the area does have a gate object but the gate itself is only a singular object and does not take extras with it can then be replaced with scripted gate. The one above takes extras with it no matter what.
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Would 0.3d change that or are the gates a lost cause?
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That is what would happen in 0.3d
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A re-evaluation of the said property would be at it's place. You should contact a property admin ingame regarding this issue.
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The value of this building in particular is not so much about the surrounding area as it is the ammount of floors the buildings hold. I cannot see how many there are exactly, but from the look of the picture there seem to be quite a few.
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Oh but it is, Malcolm.
As long as there is a fence (or in this case, a wall) connected to the building, everything within that wall is included in the base value, as it is counted as purchased property. The value consists of the floors, the purchased area and the interior. The base value would have been good if only said purchased area was accessible.
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Property admins do not change price according to owners preference. It is also up to the property admin to judge the entirety of the property and set the price accordingly (not the owner).
So unfortunately unless the hotel is badly priced (i.e. set before 2009) this will not be changed
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All I'm asking for is a slight (approximately 25%) price-cut/reconsideration, due to half the property not being accessible. It's really up to the government, indeed, but I find the base value to be a bit too much.
Edit:
I have gotten a slight price cut together with an interior fixup. It was not as much as I expected, but enough to compensate for the fact that I can't park vehicles or even use the free space. As of now, consider this issue closed, however expect it to return in the future when the ARA will receive the necessary equipment to tear down those gates (implying I will still own the hotel).
Thank you for the help.
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Ara will have their work cut out replacing the ground, walls and gates.